As I expected..."Dana White won’t permit Silva-Jones Jr. fight"

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[Bystander]

In my opinion, RJJ will outclass silva in a boxing match...and dana probably realized that..

[audio101]

Hopefully this will force Dana to stop running his mouth about boxing..

[Boyd]

best move dana has made in a while.

[AJAX]

Hopefully this will force Dana to stop running his mouth about boxing..

I don't remember him saying his fighters could beat boxers, especially RJJ who still has some ability left in him.

[Polymath]

I don't remember him saying his fighters could beat boxers, especially RJJ who still has some ability left in him.

Thats a completely different point.

[Polymath]

Silva getting whupped by RJ would be horrible PR, cant blame him really

[jimmie]

Good it was stupid anyway.

[sugarngold]

Silva getting whupped by RJ would be horrible PR, cant blame him really
That's my thought exactly. Why let one of his premiere champions take a beating in boxing? Then anti-MMA pundits will point to that fight as proof as to how boxing is superior to MMA.

I've always said that if these guys are going to compete against each other, then go all the way. Let them go a few rounds in boxing. Let them do a few rounds in kickboxing. Let them do some submission grappling. Then top it off with some time in the octagon. That gives everyone their chance to shine. And it will never happen. Closest that I've seen is the wierd mixed rules matches from Pancrase. I remember Maurice Smith fighting Minori Suzuki in a match in Pancrase where the first round was just kickboxing and then the second round included grappling.

[bachatu]

It could have been a PR stunt to begin with. I doubt Silvia would have forgotten that he is under strict contract with the Devil himself, especially after the recent fiasco with Couture and the UFC. It was good while it lasted to stir up some controversy on both sides. The UFC name got promoted in a way across boxing articles and forums.

[The Mighty One]

In my opinion, RJJ will outclass silva in a boxing match...and dana probably realized that..



Nope....I said it then and I have said it all along....Anderson Silva would have knocked out Roy Jones even two or three years ago.

[MetalMandible]

At this stage in Roid's career I think Anderson would leave him starched in a sea of shattered glass.

[Beouche]

random bump dude

[Beekeeper]

Hopefully this will force Dana to stop running his mouth about boxing..

If boxing is so great then why does Sergio Martinez not come over to Japan and take on Shinya Aoki? Uhh?

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[scurlaruntings]

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I wouldn't either. Silva is HORRENDOUS at boxing. What works exceptionally well for him in MMA does not translate in the slightest to boxing. Watch either one of his pro boxing bouts. He looked ridiculous. Everything he did was completely wrong. Even this version of RJJ tools him into 'bolivion'.

EDIT: Why are posters bumping 3 year old threads?

[PivotPunch]

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In his second boxing match Anderson looked pretty good, I can`t see anything ridiculous

[scurlaruntings]

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In his second boxing match Anderson looked pretty good, I can`t see anything ridiculous

I don't know where on earth they found this guy but he was a complete tin can. IIRC he only fought once and had next to no boxing background to speak of. Here's a pic of Silva going for the kill. You can tell his opponent is quite experienced...

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Silva does everything wrong from a boxing standpoint. Holds his chin to high. Retreats in straight lines. Carrys his hands low. Has awkward and inefficient footwork. Switches pointlessly between both stances i can go on. As a boxer he wouldn't even be a useful journeyman.

[greathamza]

If boxing is so great then why does Sergio Martinez not come over to Japan and take on Shinya Aoki? Uhh?

No offence but the rubbing your ass against the mat approach wont work on Sergio as he is prolly to smart to approach in a ground battle and 2nd as soon as that bell rings and aoki doesnt take him down with some decent TD then he is getting KTFO

[MetalMandible]

No offence but the rubbing your ass against the mat approach wont work on Sergio as he is prolly to smart to approach in a ground battle and 2nd as soon as that bell rings and aoki doesnt take him down with some decent TD then he is getting KTFO

What in the fuck makes you think that Sergio would be able to learn to stop a takedown any easier than Toney? You don't figure that shit out overnight or even in six months and as much as I hate Aoki, his takedowns would look like Aleksander Karelin's against any professional boxer.

[Popkins]

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It's a crap idea, as are all these MMA vs Boxing pointless freakshow fights. Couldn't be less interested if I tried.

[The Mighty One]

Anderson Silva would have knocked out Roy Jones Jr. in a boxing match had it been held when proposed three years ago....period.

[yaca you]

Good it was stupid anyway.


It's a crap idea, as are all these MMA vs Boxing pointless freakshow fights. Couldn't be less interested if I tried.

I dont understand you guys. Anderson silva is a fighter! he is supposed to take on difficult challenges. Silva has more of a chance to win this fight against Jones than Okami had in beating Anderson. Okami's only chance Against anderson was by illegal upkick dq victory, it happened once it wont happen again.

Do you really call yourselves fight fans?

Anderson Silva is Mixed Martial Artist. Boxing is a huge part of MMA and Anderson Silva is one of the better boxers in MMA. Add to that Jones is more shot than fedor emelianenko. Anderson focusing on becoming a better boxer will only have positive effects on his MMA career, so why shouldnt he go for it? Because the odds are against him winning? Low risk, low reward.

Is Jones a huge favourite to win? Of course!

Does Silva have a chance to beat a shot Roy Jones? Yes!

Let me ask you pussies a question: If Anderson decides instead to fight some boxing cans who will watch it? How much will the competitors get paid? How bad would it look if the P4p best MMA fighter gets KO'd by a boxing can?

This type of match needs to be made for MMA to be taken seriously worldwide. MMA fighters need to prove their worth in the biggest combat sport in the world.

Anderson Silva would be the bigger and younger competitor in this matchup, and he has a great chin by MMA standards, maybe better than Jones current chin which has been proven to not be that great at all.



This is some Faggot shit! But I'm not surprised by this, what else can you expect from fans of a sport where two male competitors regularly roll around on the ground with panties on.

[Beekeeper]

You make some good points yaca, but Spider is 36, he needs to continue building his MMA legacy while he still has his speed and reflexes. Boxing matches at this point in his career are pointless imo, he will always be known for MMA.

[Whipdatass]

At 36, Silva can't learn boxing. Silva might put his ARM down thinking he's going to catch Jones's leg and one left hook...good night Irene!

[PivotPunch]

RJJ would probably win but there is a small (very small) chance that anderson beats him. Silva has much less experience and worse technique but he has a better chin is bigger, has longer reach and maybe even better reflexes than shot RJJ.

[the beaver]

RJJ would probably win but there is a small (very small) chance that anderson beats him. Silva has much less experience and worse technique but he has a better chin is bigger, has longer reach and maybe even better reflexes than shot RJJ.

You only follow combat sports part time as a hobby right :huh:huh

[PivotPunch]

I didn`t say that Anderson is better in anything but RJJ is shot, Silvas only chance is a lucky punch but it isn`t impossible. I don`t think he is better than shot RJJ, but there is the possibility that he can win.

[Ai-edy2007]

i wanna see prime mike tyson vs anderson silva in mma or boxing i would pay 100000000000000000000000000vcash to see that.

[yaca you]

At 36, Silva can't learn boxing. Silva might put his ARM down thinking he's going to catch Jones's leg and one left hook...good night Irene!

Anderson silvas Boxing match was in 1998 his next was in 2005. his first match against Osmar Luiz Teixeira 11-2-0 he Silva lost by tko, in his next pro boxing match was against Julio Cesar De Jesus (0-0) he won by Ko. Silva has also trained with Freddie Roach at the Wildcard gym and has trained boxing regularly throughout his career. Silva is not just learning boxing his first Pro match was at the age of 23, he is 36 now.

Im not saying a guy with 2 pro boxing matches is a veteran, but he has some boxing experience.

[PivotPunch]

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Yea he looks good in this sparring session

[The Mighty One]

Silva is a quick relflexed athlete with a great punch .... My granny knocks out Jones and she has NO pro experience (except whooping me at age seven for peeking at little girls huhahs in her basement)....so what would prevent Silva from an early KO...nothing....even three years ago when first proposed?.

[greathamza]

I see Silva having a fair chance of winning a boxing fight against RJJ of now.
If RJJ was in prime i would give Silva no chance in hell but considering how fucking shot to hell RJJ is it wouldnt shock me if my brothers son who is 6 could KTFO RJJ

[MetalMandible]

I see Silva having a fair chance of winning a boxing fight against RJJ of now.
If RJJ was in prime i would give Silva no chance in hell but considering how fucking shot to hell RJJ is it wouldnt shock me if my brothers son who is 6 could KTFO RJJ

His Chin is dried horseshit. What a disgrace!:lol:

[greathamza]

His Chin is dried horseshit. What a disgrace!:lol:

That is praising him to high

[Ai-edy2007]

silva is a quick relflexed athlete with a great punch .... My granny knocks out jones and she has no pro experience (except whooping me at age seven for peeking at little girls huhahs in her basement)....so what would prevent silva from an early ko...nothing....even three years ago when first proposed?.
+1

[The Mighty One]

My thinking was the same when I brought this up originally a couple of years ago.....but most thought Silva would get destroyed...it was not about boxing skills or Silva's lack of boxing experience....it was about athleticism, confidence in the combat sports competition, reflexes, Silva's incredible one punch power and Jones' glass chin....in reality Anderson would have knocked Jones out early.....made a lot of money and propelled him to greater superstar status.
Now of course its meaningless.

[Popkins]

I dont understand you guys. Anderson silva is a fighter! he is supposed to take on difficult challenges.

This is where we disagree right here, before I even read the rest of your post.

I don't think Anderson Silva is a 'fighter', I think he is a mixed martial artist.

Therefore I don't think he should fight anyone and everyone who 'fights', I think he should only face other mixed martial artists.

[yaca you]

This is where we disagree right here, before I even read the rest of your post.

I don't think Anderson Silva is a 'fighter', I think he is a mixed martial artist.

Therefore I don't think he should fight anyone and everyone who 'fights', I think he should only face other mixed martial artists.

Your not the only one to subscribe to that way of thinking, the Popkins Doctrine is not a point of veiw that I agree with. it takes away a little something from the greatness of MMA in my opinion.

Besides, Anderson Silva has already fought in boxing, and shit load of fighters have already "jumped" combat sports.

"Just sticking to MMA" is a rule that has been broken even before people were calling it MMA. The Popkins Doctrine might one day take effect if Zuffa contracts become a necessity to compete in MMA. But I dont wish for that day. Instead, I want to eventually see MMA fighters test themselves in the individual arts that they train in, even at the highest levels. Otherwise mabe we should just call them "ultimate fighters", since they are not really mixing martal arts but just fighting under a newer martial art.

Anderson Silva has been training boxing about as long as he has been competing in MMA, but Silva started fighting in muay thai(supposedly he had a record of 40-2). None of that matters though because as it turns out one of the biggest supporters of the Popkins Doctrine is Dana White, and He gets the final say.

Dana says no. And that's that.:verysad:|:verysad

[Popkins]

Your not the only one to subscribe to that way of thinking, the Popkins Doctrine is not a point of veiw that I agree with. it takes away a little something from the greatness of MMA in my opinion.

Besides, Anderson Silva has already fought in boxing, and shit load of fighters have already "jumped" combat sports.

"Just sticking to MMA" is a rule that has been broken even before people were calling it MMA. The Popkins Doctrine might one day take effect if Zuffa contracts become a necessity to compete in MMA. But I dont wish for that day. Instead, I want to eventually see MMA fighters test themselves in the individual arts that they train in, even at the highest levels. Otherwise mabe we should just call them "ultimate fighters", since they are not really mixing martal arts but just fighting under a newer martial art.

Anderson Silva has been training boxing about as long as he has been competing in MMA, but Silva started fighting in muay thai(supposedly he had a record of 40-2). None of that matters though because as it turns out one of the biggest supporters of the Popkins Doctrine is Dana White, and He gets the final say.

Dana says no. And that's that.:verysad:|:verysad

If Dana ever goes against the Popkins Doctrine, you'll see what a truly shitty idea it was all along, when ATG boxers get fucking smashed to bits by journeymen boxers, and ATG boxers get mauled and embarrassed by medicore MMA fighters. The Popkins Doctrine was created for a reason, not for fun.

[Ai-edy2007]

If Dana ever goes against the Popkins Doctrine, you'll see what a truly shitty idea it was all along, when ATG boxers get fucking smashed to bits by journeymen boxers, and ATG boxers get mauled and embarrassed by medicore MMA fighters. The Popkins Doctrine was created for a reason, not for fun.
your out of your mind prime mike tyson, and rocky marciano would kill mediocre mma fighters your completely irrational. :patsch

[Popkins]

your out of your mind prime mike tyson, and rocky marciano would kill mediocre mma fighters your completely irrational. :patsch

In an MMA fight? More than likely they'd get taken down immediately and owned on the ground, as long as the guys they fought had a brain and knew how to take someone down. This is what would happen to 90% of boxers if they fought 90% of MMA fighters. 10% of the time, the puncher's chance would pay off and you'd see a Marquardt vs Maia style knockout straight away. This is what makes it a pointless and boring idea. Much better to have guys from the same sport face each other. No need for this teenage fascination with who'd win between Fedor, Mike Tyson, a killer nanorobot, a tiger and a dinosaur. You stupid pussy.

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Nice vid mate. Silva takes some solid head shots at 9 mins. The sparring is pretty decent, the guy he's sparring is either pretty limited or is holding back. It would be interesting to see Silva sparring with someone of a greater calibre like Hopkins etc. I'm guessing he would get carved up.:!:

[Furey]

At this stage in Roid's career I think Anderson would leave him starched in a sea of shattered glass.

RJJ would absolutely hand Silva is ass inside a boxing ring, Dana won't let it come close to happening.

[MetalMandible]

RJJ would absolutely hand Silva is ass inside a boxing ring, Dana won't let it come close to happening.

RJJ is a shot shell of his former self and ANYBODY who can halfway crack is a liability to bust his Glass Jaw, and you should know that from Roid's hilarious result against Danny Green!:lol::rofl:patsch