View Full Version : US view on Calzaghe Kessler
Muskyrat
07-14-2007, 03:19 AM
Seems like all the threads seem to be brits slaggin kessler and danes slaggin calzaghe so whats the average US fight fans analysis?
WhataRock
07-14-2007, 03:21 AM
Slag them both??
smokey
07-14-2007, 03:29 AM
The US view is that it's a compelling fight in a division we don't follow too closely. Looks like a great fight to me.
digiram
07-14-2007, 03:37 AM
I'm looking forward to the fight. It's two of the best duking it out in their weight division. What more can you ask for?
I'm leaning a bit towards Kessler as I prefer fighters with good technical skills. Calzaghe definitely has faster hands and speed kills, but a good jab can always neutralize that.
Should be a good fight despite whom ever the winner is. This one's more than likely to go 12.
Muskyrat
07-14-2007, 03:40 AM
Slag them both??
asked fer that didnt I :yep
lillarry
07-14-2007, 03:47 AM
I see it as a great fight between the elite of the 168 class. Its a shame the average American dont know the huge implications of this fight. They have been brainwashed into thinking that boxing is a dying sport.
DanePugilist
07-14-2007, 03:49 AM
This fight is far more interesting than the endless inbred matchups going on;
Taylor-Hopkins, Taylor-Winky, Winky-Hopkins, RJJ-Tarver, Tarver-Hopkins. Any boxing fan should be glued to the screen or watch it live.
DanePugilist
07-14-2007, 03:50 AM
I see it as a great fight between the elite of the 168 class. Its a shame the average American dont know the huge implications of this fight. They have been brainwashed into thinking that boxing is a dying sport.:good Awesome post:lol:
RagingBull
07-14-2007, 05:14 AM
I'm an American fan who follows the super middle weight division contently. I think American boxing fans that have watched both fighters lately prefer Kessler. Calzaghe gets hyped up by Brits like he is the most exciteing fighter ever when the truth is he's a cherry picker who has only fought one fighter in the ring's top ten in all 20 title defenses. PIn addition he has a sissy slap fighting style that doesn't really appeal to most American combat sports fans. However, Kessler hasn't got much US exposure but, damn is he exciting.
I'm an American fan who follows the super middle weight division contently. I think American boxing fans that have watched both fighters lately prefer Kessler. Calzaghe gets hyped up by Brits like he is the most exciteing fighter ever when the truth is he's a cherry picker who has only fought one fighter in the ring's top ten in all 20 title defenses. PIn addition he has a sissy slap fighting style that doesn't really appeal to most American combat sports fans. However, Kessler hasn't got much US exposure but, damn is he exciting.
Slapper
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1lehudson
07-14-2007, 05:54 AM
I know I have said it before, but my view is the winner is just holding the belts until that corp of young Americans come take them:D
Fat Tony
07-14-2007, 05:57 AM
I know I have said it before, but my view is the winner is just holding the belts until that corp of young Americans come take them:D
Names?
I know I have said it before, but my view is the winner is just holding the belts until that corp of young Americans come take them:DBy then you will be old and blind and unable to comprehend what you are watching.
IrnBruMan
07-14-2007, 07:04 AM
I'm an American fan who follows the super middle weight division contently. I think American boxing fans that have watched both fighters lately prefer Kessler. Calzaghe gets hyped up by Brits like he is the most exciteing fighter ever when the truth is he's a cherry picker who has only fought one fighter in the ring's top ten in all 20 title defenses. PIn addition he has a sissy slap fighting style that doesn't really appeal to most American combat sports fans. However, Kessler hasn't got much US exposure but, damn is he exciting.
ahem!!! PBF?
IrnBruMan
07-14-2007, 07:05 AM
Slapper
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:lol:
Exactly...the same US fans who picked a Lacy KO over Calzaghe are now calling him an over-rated cherry-picking slapper :-(
MrMagic
07-14-2007, 08:41 AM
Slag them both??
:rofl
Club Fighter
07-14-2007, 08:45 AM
Slag them both??
Thank God for Americans.
achillesthegreat
07-14-2007, 08:52 AM
Top three fight in boxing at the moment.
The other one is Hatton-Mayweather. That is for the P4P title and it's the best 140 pounder in the world versus the best 147 pounder.
This in reality is for all four belts, the unification of 'the man' and 'the best' and it's for a place in the top 5 P4P.
Mrboogie23
07-14-2007, 08:59 AM
Its a great fight that I'm very excited about. I've been calling for this fight for awhile.
I think pretty much all american fight fans are hyped about this fight. I mean it is a big fight after all.
David UK
07-14-2007, 09:03 AM
This fight is far more interesting than the endless inbred matchups going on;
Taylor-Hopkins, Taylor-Winky, Winky-Hopkins, RJJ-Tarver, Tarver-Hopkins. Any boxing fan should be glued to the screen or watch it live.
Couldn't agree more DP. This cosy little arrangement between various old men(Hopkins),shot fighters(Jones),never were's (Tarver) and downright dull(Wright) is a nice little earner for the aforementioned without risking a beating at the hands of Calzaghe or Kessler
RagingBull
07-14-2007, 09:15 AM
Yeah I agree that PBF is the biggest cherry picker out there. I'd really like to see him man up to a fight with Hatton because I think Hatton has the swarming style that will chase down PBF.
Above I'm just saying that American fans like to watch exciting power punchers (Kessler) as opposed to quick handed people that make odd looking fights (Calzaghe). The truth is that Calzaghe is probably the favorite to win especially since his hometown is hosting the fight.
DanePugilist
07-14-2007, 09:15 AM
Couldn't agree more DP. This cosy little arrangement between various old men(Hopkins),shot fighters(Jones),never were's (Tarver) and downright dull(Wright) is a nice little earner for the aforementioned without risking a beating at the hands of Calzaghe or Kessler:good - I also agree with your labels on each fighter. It is indeed a cozy little arrangement they have going while gaining P4P ratings while doing it, when in truth none of them are anywhere near prime.
LeadLeftHook
07-14-2007, 09:34 AM
Kessler was on ESPN FNF once seems like a pretty classy guy. Hes exciting to watch and sure as hell can punch. This is only the second time Calzaghe is fighting a real threat but I never thought much of Lacy anyway.
haavard
07-14-2007, 10:10 AM
Hopefully the super middleweight division will grow bigger in the States. But I don't think it will be considered great before an American fighter can compete with the best in the division. But who cares? It seems like Europe and the rest of the world will follow this one closely.
Here is though some hope:
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deram
07-14-2007, 10:11 AM
Americans is not one homogenous bunch.
The boxing fans are generally excited. The casual fans are more excited about Toney's or Butterbean's next fight.
Max Molyneux
07-14-2007, 10:14 AM
I'm an American fan who follows the super middle weight division contently. I think American boxing fans that have watched both fighters lately prefer Kessler. Calzaghe gets hyped up by Brits like he is the most exciteing fighter ever when the truth is he's a cherry picker who has only fought one fighter in the ring's top ten in all 20 title defenses. PIn addition he has a sissy slap fighting style that doesn't really appeal to most American combat sports fans. However, Kessler hasn't got much US exposure but, damn is he exciting.
Reid, Eubank, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Sheika and Manfredo were In the rings top 10.:yep
New Wind
07-14-2007, 10:30 AM
Yeah..
Manfredo had really earned his slot in the Ring top ten, hadn't he? :-)
geeez..
satyriion
07-14-2007, 11:26 AM
Reid, Eubank, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Sheika and Manfredo were In the rings top 10.:yep
yeah and Manfredo is a coming champ. Right.
Mosley2Sweet
07-14-2007, 11:43 AM
You kidding?
I get HUGE hardons at the idea of Calslappy getting knocked out. :good
aliwasthegreatest
07-14-2007, 11:44 AM
i'm not too intruiged by kessler. i don't think he is really that good. but its still probably the best fight that can be made at 168 besides perhaps mindine JC
Irish Steel
07-14-2007, 11:46 AM
Calzaghe By split decision. But im irish so im a bit biased.
Manfredo? You mean the one that Zelenoff can take in sparring?
langshof
07-14-2007, 07:33 PM
Calzaghe By split decision. But im irish so im a bit biased.
Manfredo? You mean the one that Zelenoff can take in sparring?
I could almost take him in sparring.....
teetop
07-14-2007, 08:37 PM
I see it as a great fight between the elite of the 168 class. Its a shame the average American dont know the huge implications of this fight. They have been brainwashed into thinking that boxing is a dying sport.
I think there are more americans that think this fight is special than
is let on. The boxing fraternity knows this is 1 of the biggest fight in
the sport right now, if not the biggest. HBO damn well better show this
fight.
Butch Coolidge
07-14-2007, 10:00 PM
Calzaghe and Kessler are both white so they can't be very good....drumroll ( just kidding )
Calzaghe and Kessler both have tremendous hand speed. Joe has been fighting succesfully for a long time, his ability to deal with adversity and injuries is incredible but sooner or later that 0 has to go if he keeps fighting real opponents. Kessler is the one who is on his way up and he has considerable talent as well. If I had to pick one I would pick Kessler simply because time and the odds aren't in Calzaghe's favour and Kessler is perhaps the only man in the division with enough talent to defeat JC.
Ted Stickles
07-14-2007, 11:08 PM
Seems like all the threads seem to be brits slaggin kessler and danes slaggin calzaghe so whats the average US fight fans analysis?
Calzaghe by either UD or late stoppage, i think he will be too agressive and fast for Kessler.
Jepster
07-15-2007, 04:46 PM
i'm not too intruiged by kessler. i don't think he is really that good. but its still probably the best fight that can be made at 168 besides perhaps mindine JC
I'm assuming you mean Mundine Vs. Calz...
Why in gods name do you think this is a more interesting matchup than Calz Vs. Kess? I mean Mundine is a good fighter no doubt, but not in the league of Calz and Kess. Please elaborate I'm intrigued :p
deram
07-15-2007, 08:27 PM
I'm assuming you mean Mundine Vs. Calz...
Why in gods name do you think this is a more interesting matchup than Calz Vs. Kess? I mean Mundine is a good fighter no doubt, but not in the league of Calz and Kess. Please elaborate I'm intrigued :p
Noone bothered comment on that because the yguy obviously doen't have a clue. Kessler convincingly beat Mundine in Mundine's home and Mundine-Calzaghe is the best fight? :nut
Not worth commenting on.
deram
07-15-2007, 10:22 PM
Stylistically, could make more sense.
Mundine's style is more likely to be the goods against Joe than Kessler's is.
Well, if we are to make Kessler vs X.
Who is likely to present the biggest threat to Kessler? Mundine or Calzaghe?
ravtrav
07-15-2007, 10:25 PM
I'm American And I Want To See Calfaghe Get Knocked Out!!!
I'm excited and think it's going to be an AWESOME fight. It's just great to see a clear cut champion in a division fight his clear cut number 1 contender. It will be the two best duking it out at 168, and for that, I thank the boxing gods.
PH|LLA
07-15-2007, 10:31 PM
They're both white so they're probably hypejobs.
cuchulain
07-15-2007, 11:25 PM
Thank God for Americans.
Why ?
digiram
07-16-2007, 12:40 AM
Yeah I agree that PBF is the biggest cherry picker out there. I'd really like to see him man up to a fight with Hatton because I think Hatton has the swarming style that will chase down PBF.
Above I'm just saying that American fans like to watch exciting power punchers (Kessler) as opposed to quick handed people that make odd looking fights (Calzaghe). The truth is that Calzaghe is probably the favorite to win especially since his hometown is hosting the fight.
LOL!!! PBF cherry picked his way to winning 5 WBC titles in 5 different weight classes by the time he hit 30. Give me a fucking break.
Hatton moves up to 147, and shits himself against Collazo. Has to run back down to 140 :lol:.
At least PBF rematched Castillo to prove that his gift wasn't a fluke. Hatton got a gift and ran home crying. :lol:
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