Who's the tougher fight for Floyd at WW: Cotto or Hatton?

[BITCH ASS]

Since there have been a number of comparisons, this seems like a legitimate question.

The fact of the matter is that Cotto is nothing like Hatton. The only similarity they share is that they both thrive and are natural pressure fighters.

That's where the similarity stops. Hatton is a very good fighter when his opponent is there to be hit and isn't strong enough to outmuscle him.

This is why aside from Juan Urango and possibly some others that I'm not aware of, that Hatton was able to outmuscle his opponents. When faced against an opponent that he could not maul or wrestle, in this case Urango, Hatton showed incredibly limited boxing skills and ability to adapt.

While it's not the best idea to box Mayweather when it's clear that you are out of you element, especially when you've spent your entire career as a pressure fighter, Hatton doesn't use a weapon that often defines great boxers. Hatton has NO JAB!

Now, when you have an opponent like Floyd who's defense generally consists of him leaning back and/or to the right to avoid jabs, and when it often puts him off balance or keeps him from throwing punches, the JAB is the MOST important punch in your arsenal.

Add to the fact that Ricky often comes straight in, shows decent head movement, but neglects to put his hands up, and MOSTLY ties up when he gets there or leads with hooks, you got a fighter that's destined to be picked apart with right hands and "check hooks."

Roger Mayweather made notice of this in his comments leading up to the fight when he said Hatton can't beat Mayweather because he has no jab.

Regardless of what he said though, it's obvious that Mayweather saw a very beatable opponent in Ricky Hatton who was even outmuscled by Mayweather on the inside.

Cotto is a completely different fighter all together. He's shown the ability to adapt and box, even against a guy like Sugar Shane Mosley who he effectively countered when Shane was the aggressor. Yes, folks, Cotto is a multi-dimensional fighter.

When Cotto is the aggressor, he keeps his hands high where they should be, takes angles, and throws the jab to keep his opponent off balance. On top of this, he's big and strong, at least in comparison to Floyd who won't have the luxury of being able to manhandle Cotto.

Cotto also works when he's inside. The only time Cotto will initiate a clinch is when he gets hurt. He'll be there to work against Mayweather, throwing lots of left hooks and left uppercuts. When Floyd leans the other way, Cotto has a much improved right hand waiting for him.

In contrast, Hatton tried to initiate clinches and was completely ineffective on the inside. He had no workrate. His gameplan was to wrestle.

Trust me folks. Mayweather knows Cotto. Cotto is a beast. He doesn't want any part of him.

[brooklyn1550]

This is an absolutely fantastic first post. Great quality and analysis of their respective styles.

Cotto is much better than Hatton at 147, and obviously a tougher challenge for Floyd.

[BITCH ASS]

This is an absolutely fantastic first post. Great quality and analysis of their respective styles.

Cotto is much better than Hatton at 147, and obviously a tougher challenge for Floyd.

Appreciate.

I just get tired of people saying that Floyd will pick apart Cotto relatively easily and use Hatton as a reference point.

Hatton has no jab!

A fighter with no jab has no CHANCE against Floyd unless he just has a massive size advantage.

[tragicliston]

Despite some Hatton fanboys' claims to the contrary, Mayweather didn't seem to have too much trouble with Hatton. I'd go with Cotto. Who knows though?

[brooklyn1550]

Appreciate.

I just get tired of people saying that Floyd will pick apart Cotto relatively easily and use Hatton as a reference point.

Hatton has no jab!

A fighter with no jab has no CHANCE against Floyd unless he just has a massive size advantage.

Exactly

People don't realize that TECHNICAL PRESSURE is the way to beat Floyd. Hatton bring pressure and has good foot-speed that allows him to close the distance, but you're on the mark in saying he has no jab. This prevents him from being considered a technical pressure fighter. And it also means he leaves himself more open coming in.

He's more of a roughhouser who clinches, grapples, and holds on the inside. This works great at 140, but not at 147 against stronger men. Cotto is far more fluid, accurate, skilled, and powerful in close. His body/head combinations and attack are on a completely different level. He's far more versatile, too.

Think about this: What fighter gave Floyd the most trouble? Jose Luis Castillo. What kind of fighter was he? A fighter who intelligently pressured Floyd behind a jab:yep

[BITCH ASS]

Exactly

People don't realize that TECHNICAL PRESSURE is the way to beat Floyd. Hatton bring pressure and has good foot-speed that allows him to close the distance, but you're on the mark in saying he has no jab. This prevents him from being considered a technical pressure fighter.

He's more of a roughhouser who clinches, grapples, and holds on the inside. This works great at 140, but not at 147 against stronger men. Cotto is far more fluid, accurate, skilled, and powerful in close. His body/head combinations and attack are on a completely different level.

Think about this: What fighter gave Floyd the most trouble? Jose Luis Castillo. What kind of fighter was he? A fighter who intelligently pressured Floyd behind a jab:yep

Yep, but I think Floyd realizes that this ain't lightweight anymore.

[C Money]

There's no question:nono No its NOT HATTON:hey

Oh and Spadafora used a nice jab and out worked Floyd at his own game. :good

[BigReg]

Exactly

[QUOTE]
People don't realize that TECHNICAL PRESSURE is the way to beat Floyd. Hatton bring pressure and has good foot-speed that allows him to close the distance, but you're on the mark in saying he has no jab. This prevents him from being considered a technical pressure fighter. And it also means he leaves himself more open coming in.


I guess the 38 guys that have in the ring with him didn't realize this either as they all took an "L". Castillo took two "L"'s.


He's more of a roughhouser who clinches, grapples, and holds on the inside. This works great at 140, but not at 147 against stronger men.

Floyd isn't a big wealter. While agree with what you say here, you and I both know Ricky gets his ass whooped at 140 and 147. Personally, I believe he gets whooped worse at 140.


Cotto is far more fluid, accurate, skilled, and powerful in close. His body/head combinations and attack are on a completely different level. He's far more versatile, too.


Co-signed. However, I don't believe he's good enough yet with his righ hand.


Think about this: What fighter gave Floyd the most trouble? Jose Luis Castillo. What kind of fighter was he? A fighter who intelligently pressured Floyd behind a jab:yep


He still got beat twice. The first time,he lost despite the fact that he was fighting a guy coming up in weight, who was at a 10 lb. weight disadvantage, and who was injured.

[brooklyn1550]

I guess the 38 guys that have in the ring with him didn't realize this either as they all took an "L". Castillo took two "L"'s.

Fighters have realized that a pressure oriented strategy is the way to beat Floyd. They just didn't have the talent or ability to pull it off.

Floyd's had the most trouble against guys who pressure behind the jab (Castillo and De La Hoya, though I felt he beat De La Hoya in a clear, but close fight).

He eats up defensively challenged swarmers like Jesus Chavez and Ricky Hatton.

Floyd isn't a big wealter. While agree with what you say here, you and I both know Ricky gets his ass whooped at 140 and 147. Personally, I believe he gets whooped worse at 140.

Definitely

If Mayweather and Hatton rematched at 140, Hatton would get stopped even sooner. Very brutal fight for Hatton, since Floyd threw more in combination, had more potent power, and noticably more speed and movement at 140 then he does now, at 147.

Co-signed. However, I don't believe he's good enough yet with his righ hand.

His left hook is clearly his money punch, but I think he's shown a very improved right hand. He hurt Judah with right hands and landed very clean ones on Mosley (granted Mosley doesn't have nearly the defense Floyd does).

He still got beat twice. The first time,he lost despite the fact that he was fighting a guy coming up in weight, who was at a 10 lb. weight disadvantage, and who was injured.

He got beat twice, but gave Floyd all he could handle in the first fight, and still managed to make it very competitive in the second. Most people score it 8-4 or 7-5. Cotto is a step up from Castillo in terms of physical strength, punching power, versatility, and with his jab.

I would pick Cotto, but there's no question that Floyd could win in my mind.

Let's just hope it happens one day. It would be ashame if it didn't because it would cement both guy's legacies.

[JurisBoxer]

Cotto is the only WW that has all the needed skills to beat Mayweather. I'm not saying Cotto beats PBF, but if anyone at WW has a chance, it's certainly Cotto.

[Sweet EP]

Not seen much evidence to suggest Mayweather would have too much trouble with Cotto. Enjoy watching Cotto, not so much Floyd, but you have to admit the guy is different gravy! (excellent for our U.S. friends)

[Caliboxing]

Cotto. His skills are more polished than Hatton and he has proven himself at 147.

[Hatesrats]

PBF Fighting Cotto will be the first time Floyd fight's someone who has all The advantages equal To him or maybe even More so...

Same Height
Cotto has The Youth
Cotto has The Same Speed
Cotto has The Same Power
Cotto Has The Same "Undefeated" Moniker
But Cotto Has Something Mayweather don't have anymore
And That is HUNGER!.

That Said, I Give Cotto A better chance At getting Floyd's -0- Than I gave Hatton. Floyd Was never in any real trouble with Hatton's Power punching Nor was Mayweather Going to have to fear being Hurt by Hatton.
(Ricky is Just Too small For PBF)

In A Fight against Cotto However, Mayweather is prob best To Fight from His his Bike And out Box And Slick the rougher Cotto.
If Floyd Stands And Trades/Exchanges with Cotto he Would be Playing Right into Miguel's Fighting style. Everyone Knows Floyd Can outbox and Out jab A Fighter.. But something tells me He's gonna Exchange from this Point in his carrear Foward. Tho It will be A more exciting PBF, Ask Roy Jones What happens next. (Anyone can get Touched even after never being Hit before..)

[booradley]

Okay -- I'll admit I am biased as hell about this one. I don't like PBF, and I don't like hook and hold hatton. Cotto, on the other hand, is one of my favorite fighters. Cotto/Mayweather is the single most important fight in boxing today. Cotto poses a serious threat to everything Floyd believes about himself, and it is painfully obvious that Floyd is ducking Cotto. Hatton was never a serious threat.

Boo

[Pimp C]

Since there have been a number of comparisons, this seems like a legitimate question.

The fact of the matter is that Cotto is nothing like Hatton. The only similarity they share is that they both thrive and are natural pressure fighters.

That's where the similarity stops. Hatton is a very good fighter when his opponent is there to be hit and isn't strong enough to outmuscle him.

This is why aside from Juan Urango and possibly some others that I'm not aware of, that Hatton was able to outmuscle his opponents. When faced against an opponent that he could not maul or wrestle, in this case Urango, Hatton showed incredibly limited boxing skills and ability to adapt.

While it's not the best idea to box Mayweather when it's clear that you are out of you element, especially when you've spent your entire career as a pressure fighter, Hatton doesn't use a weapon that often defines great boxers. Hatton has NO JAB!

Now, when you have an opponent like Floyd who's defense generally consists of him leaning back and/or to the right to avoid jabs, and when it often puts him off balance or keeps him from throwing punches, the JAB is the MOST important punch in your arsenal.

Add to the fact that Ricky often comes straight in, shows decent head movement, but neglects to put his hands up, and MOSTLY ties up when he gets there or leads with hooks, you got a fighter that's destined to be picked apart with right hands and "check hooks."

Roger Mayweather made notice of this in his comments leading up to the fight when he said Hatton can't beat Mayweather because he has no jab.

Regardless of what he said though, it's obvious that Mayweather saw a very beatable opponent in Ricky Hatton who was even outmuscled by Mayweather on the inside.

Cotto is a completely different fighter all together. He's shown the ability to adapt and box, even against a guy like Sugar Shane Mosley who he effectively countered when Shane was the aggressor. Yes, folks, Cotto is a multi-dimensional fighter.

When Cotto is the aggressor, he keeps his hands high where they should be, takes angles, and throws the jab to keep his opponent off balance. On top of this, he's big and strong, at least in comparison to Floyd who won't have the luxury of being able to manhandle Cotto.

Cotto also works when he's inside. The only time Cotto will initiate a clinch is when he gets hurt. He'll be there to work against Mayweather, throwing lots of left hooks and left uppercuts. When Floyd leans the other way, Cotto has a much improved right hand waiting for him.

In contrast, Hatton tried to initiate clinches and was completely ineffective on the inside. He had no workrate. His gameplan was to wrestle.

Trust me folks. Mayweather knows Cotto. Cotto is a beast. He doesn't want any part of him.
Caps is back and wouldn't you know his first post would be about PBF.:-( But to answer your question Cotto is. My question to you is why make this post when I told you for months why PBF was a stylistic nightmare for Hatton but you wouldn't listen to sound logic and picked Hatton to win. On top of that you then use some of my same points in this thread about what type of fighter Hatton is.:patsch

[Stickandmove]

PBF Fighting Cotto will be the first time Floyd fight's someone who has all The advantages equal To him or maybe even More so...

Same Height
Cotto has The Youth
Cotto has The Same Speed
Cotto has The Same Power
Cotto Has The Same "Undefeated" Moniker
But Cotto Has Something Mayweather don't have anymore
And That is HUNGER!.


WTF?

Floyd is 5'8'' and Cotto is 5'7''
Same speed? Floyd is miles faster
Same power? Nah, I'd give Cotto a distinct edge.

[Pimp C]

PBF Fighting Cotto will be the first time Floyd fight's someone who has all The advantages equal To him or maybe even More so...

Same Height
Cotto has The Youth
Cotto has The Same Speed
Cotto has The Same Power
Cotto Has The Same "Undefeated" Moniker
But Cotto Has Something Mayweather don't have anymore
And That is HUNGER!.

That Said, I Give Cotto A better chance At getting Floyd's -0- Than I gave Hatton. Floyd Was never in any real trouble with Hatton's Power punching Nor was Mayweather Going to have to fear being Hurt by Hatton.
(Ricky is Just Too small For PBF)

In A Fight against Cotto However, Mayweather is prob best To Fight from His his Bike And out Box And Slick the rougher Cotto.
If Floyd Stands And Trades/Exchanges with Cotto he Would be Playing Right into Miguel's Fighting style. Everyone Knows Floyd Can outbox and Out jab A Fighter.. But something tells me He's gonna Exchange from this Point in his carrear Foward. Tho It will be A more exciting PBF, Ask Roy Jones What happens next. (Anyone can get Touched even after never being Hit before..)
Same speed? Come on man PBF would beat Cotto to the punch and counter the him in this fight. PBf has the faster hands here clearly.:deal

[EpsilonAxis]

Two things I will say about this fight.

Firstly, I think Cotto is more made for Floyd than Hatton was. I thought Hatton could very well beat Floyd, stylistically I think Cotto may be too slow to handle Floyd. Cotto has excellent skills, but I'm not sure he throws enough to take Floyd out of his comfort zone. I'd see it going like Cotto-Corley before Cotto broke him down towards the end.

Secondly, taking on guys like Quintana, Judah, and Mosley was the perfect preparation for Cotto in taking on Floyd, so I could be very wrong...Cotto is more prepared for Floyd than Floyd would be for Cotto...

[the_truth]

cotto for sure would be a tougher fight, hatton in my opinion at this moment has no business at 147, he would be great at 140, but at 147 everything changes for him, he has shown struggles at 147 against collazo and mayweather... if it was at 140 it would be another topic, where cotto struggle with his weight and it hurt him at times, but his skills was what made him survive at that weight, cotto could trade, box, and pretty do much anything at 147 even when hes hurt....

[stevebhoy87]

Cotto, anyone who says hatton knows nothing about boxing

[CJLightweight]

cotto easily

[Brian123]

Appreciate.

I just get tired of people saying that Floyd will pick apart Cotto relatively easily and use Hatton as a reference point.

Hatton has no jab!

A fighter with no jab has no CHANCE against Floyd unless he just has a massive size advantage.

Just as Mayrunner's former promoter (Arum) said he does not take a fight unless it will be easy and Cotto would not be easy.

Hatton lost against his first 147 (but got the gift SD) fight and Mayrunner knows he can't fight at 147.

BTW DLH was beating Mayrunner using his jab until he stupidly stopped using it.

[Symphenyceo]

a thread created by someone who picked Hatton to win in December

[KO Boxing]

a thread created by someone who picked Hatton to win in December
:lol: Does "Calzaghe-Lacy" apply to "Floyd-Hatton"? :think

[Pimp C]

Just as Mayrunner's former promoter (Arum) said he does not take a fight unless it will be easy and Cotto would not be easy.

Hatton lost against his first 147 (but got the gift SD) fight and Mayrunner knows he can't fight at 147.

BTW DLH was beating Mayrunner using his jab until he stupidly stopped using it.
Oscar wasn't beating anyone he won no more than 4 rounds in that fight at best. As for his jab he just didn't magically stop using it like most of you Oscar apologist like to say but rather it was taken away by PBF. He used his movement and counter-punching to stop Oscar from throwing it.:deal

[stuistylee]

cotto...easy...has tools hatton doesnt have...

[Ramshall1]

Obviously Hatton was the path of least resistance when the choices at WW are Cotto/Shane/Hatton.

Hatton is a not the same fighter at 147, Fraud knew it - thats why he cherry picked him.

[Pimp C]

Obviously Hatton was the path of least resistance when the choices at WW are Cotto/Shane/Hatton.

Hatton is a not the same fighter at 147, Fraud knew it - thats why he cherry picked him.
Then why did he try like hell to get him in the ring at 140 back in 2005? Hatton turned him down there and would have been beaten worse at 140 than he was at 147.:deal

[Monticello]

I'd say Miguel Cotto. We know that Hatton's best weight is at 140 and Cotto is better at 147 than he was at 140. Cotto's got the better jab and is the better boxer out of the two. Hatton doesn't really use his jab and doesn't have the best boxing skills out there. I'm not saying Cotto would outbox Mayweather, but he would have a better chance at beating Mayweather than Hatton did.

[Ramshall1]

Then why did he try like hell to get him in the ring at 140 back in 2005? Hatton turned him down there and would have been beaten worse at 140 than he was at 147.:deal

Hatton needed to make a name for himself in the U.S. Fraud wasnt willig to go to UK, so props to Hatton for crossing the pond.

A fight between the two at 140 would be more competative than at 147, I think thats pretty obvious - but Fraud would probably still win.

What were talkin bout here is 147, cause Fraud was not willing to go down to 140, fine - thats his choice but dont tell me Hatton wasnt picked before Cotto and Shane because he was the weaker of the three at 147 - that seems obvious as well.

Hattons only fight at 147 was a razor thin decision, Shane dominated that same guy (Collazo) at 147. How anyone looks at this as well as Shanes other wins at 147 and 154 and say Hatton was the bigger threat at 147 I will never understand, cause its just plain stupid.

[Pimp C]

Hatton needed to make a name for himself in the U.S. Fraud wasnt willig to go to UK, so props to Hatton for crossing the pond.

A fight between the two at 140 would be more competative than at 147, I think thats pretty obvious - but Fraud would probably still win.

What were talkin bout here is 147, cause Fraud was not willing to go down to 140, fine - thats his choice but dont tell me Hatton wasnt picked before Cotto and Shane because he was the weaker of the three at 147 - that seems obvious as well.

Hattons only fight at 147 was a razor thin decision, Shane dominated that same guy (Collazo) at 147. How anyone looks at this as well as Shanes other wins at 147 and 154 and say Hatton was the bigger threat at 147 I will never understand, cause its just plain stupid.
So it's an ok excuse for Hatton but not when PBF says Cotto needs to build up his name so the fight between them will be bigger.:-( Do you not see the double standard you have here?:deal
BTW PBF would have beaten Hatton easier at 140. He was at his physical peak there not to mention he let his hands go alot more there buy throwing more combos and he was faster of both hand and foot there as well.

[Lance_Uppercut]

So it's an ok excuse for Hatton but not when PBF says Cotto needs to build up his name so the fight between them will be bigger.:-( Do you not see the double standard you have here?:deal

How the fuck is that a double standard when Floyd ALREADY tried to fight Cotto? :huh

And another thing, HATTON Wanted to make HIS name bigger first. The difference is Floyd wanting Cotto to be bigger. It's not even a double standard w/o my first tidbit.

[Pimp C]

How the fuck is that a double standard when Floyd ALREADY tried to fight Cotto? :huh

And another thing, HATTON Wanted to make HIS name bigger first. The difference is Floyd wanting Cotto to be bigger. It's not even a double standard w/o my first tidbit.
He tried to fight them both at 140 and was turned down a fact that Cotto apologist never admit to or flat out ignore like Ram. My thing is people always say Hatton's excuse for not fighting PBF at 140 is that he had no fanbase in the US and needed to build one to make the fight bigger. But when a PBF fan says Cotto needs to do the same thing he's accused of ducking Cotto. They say it's fine for one fighter but not fine for the other, like Ram does.

[Lance_Uppercut]

He tried to fight them both at 140 and was turned down a fact that Cotto apologist never admit to or flat out ignore like Ram. My thing is people always say Hatton's excuse for not fighting PBF at 140 is that he had no fanbase in the US and needed to build one to make the fight bigger. But when a PBF fan says Cotto needs to do the same thing he's accused of ducking Cotto. They say it's fine for one fighter but not fine for the other, like Ram does.

Dude...no Cotto fans HIDE from that. Everyone knows that. You aren't even responding to my quote. Did you just accept there was no double standard?

[pit]

Since there have been a number of comparisons, this seems like a legitimate question.

The fact of the matter is that Cotto is nothing like Hatton. The only similarity they share is that they both thrive and are natural pressure fighters.

That's where the similarity stops. Hatton is a very good fighter when his opponent is there to be hit and isn't strong enough to outmuscle him.

This is why aside from Juan Urango and possibly some others that I'm not aware of, that Hatton was able to outmuscle his opponents. When faced against an opponent that he could not maul or wrestle, in this case Urango, Hatton showed incredibly limited boxing skills and ability to adapt.

While it's not the best idea to box Mayweather when it's clear that you are out of you element, especially when you've spent your entire career as a pressure fighter, Hatton doesn't use a weapon that often defines great boxers. Hatton has NO JAB!

Now, when you have an opponent like Floyd who's defense generally consists of him leaning back and/or to the right to avoid jabs, and when it often puts him off balance or keeps him from throwing punches, the JAB is the MOST important punch in your arsenal.

Add to the fact that Ricky often comes straight in, shows decent head movement, but neglects to put his hands up, and MOSTLY ties up when he gets there or leads with hooks, you got a fighter that's destined to be picked apart with right hands and "check hooks."

Roger Mayweather made notice of this in his comments leading up to the fight when he said Hatton can't beat Mayweather because he has no jab.

Regardless of what he said though, it's obvious that Mayweather saw a very beatable opponent in Ricky Hatton who was even outmuscled by Mayweather on the inside.

Cotto is a completely different fighter all together. He's shown the ability to adapt and box, even against a guy like Sugar Shane Mosley who he effectively countered when Shane was the aggressor. Yes, folks, Cotto is a multi-dimensional fighter.

When Cotto is the aggressor, he keeps his hands high where they should be, takes angles, and throws the jab to keep his opponent off balance. On top of this, he's big and strong, at least in comparison to Floyd who won't have the luxury of being able to manhandle Cotto.

Cotto also works when he's inside. The only time Cotto will initiate a clinch is when he gets hurt. He'll be there to work against Mayweather, throwing lots of left hooks and left uppercuts. When Floyd leans the other way, Cotto has a much improved right hand waiting for him.

In contrast, Hatton tried to initiate clinches and was completely ineffective on the inside. He had no workrate. His gameplan was to wrestle.

Trust me folks. Mayweather knows Cotto. Cotto is a beast. He doesn't want any part of him.

base on what Data ?? he's only fought Hatton ..

Base on Floyd fight with Manfredy and Coralles fight with manfredy Coralles should have given floyd a very tuff fight maybe even his first loss .. Guess what ?!?!

I trust that you don't know shit.. I highly doubt cotto can beat Floyd Boxing, and lets not forget only one fighter was able to lay a decent left hook on floyd and that was 6 years ago (castillio) ,, Cotto wide left hook, while he's looking at the floor will have to change if he fights floyd or he may well put two slices of bread on floyd right hand now and get use to the taste , because thats what he will be eating right upper cuts and straight rights all night, with as wide as cotto delivers his hook .

and how do you know Cotto is stronger then floyd and if he is how do you know his strength will make a difference ? again based on what .. didn't they say that Oscar , Hatton , Gatti ,Baldi, castillio , Corralles and Chavez were all stronger then Floyd ??? what happen ???

point blank the only thing we know for certain is that Floyd will be the youngest ,most experience ,talented versatile fighter Cotto will ever face .

[Symphenyceo]

base on what Data ?? he's only fought Hatton ..

Base on Floyd fight with Manfredy and Coralles fight with manfredy Coralles should have given floyd a very tuff fight maybe even his first loss .. Guess what ?!?!

I trust that you don't know shit.. I highly doubt cotto can beat Floyd Boxing, and lets not forget only one fighter was able to lay a decent left hook on floyd and that was 6 years ago (castillio) ,, Cotto wide left hook, while he's looking at the floor will have to change if he fights floyd or he may well put two slices of bread on floyd right hand now and get use to the taste , because thats what he will be eating right upper cuts and straight rights all night, with as wide as cotto delivers his hook .

and how do you know Cotto is stronger then floyd and if he is how do you know his strength will make a difference ? again based on what .. didn't they say that Oscar , Hatton , Gatti ,Baldi, castillio , Corralles and Chavez were all stronger then Floyd ??? what happen ???

point blank the only thing we know for certain is that Floyd will be the youngest ,most experience ,talented versatile fighter Cotto will ever face .


:good wide left hook and before he throws his combinations he takes a predictable long step foward with his left foot..something judah timed well in the first 3 rounds of their fight

[Ramshall1]

He tried to fight them both at 140 and was turned down a fact that Cotto apologist never admit to or flat out ignore like Ram. My thing is people always say Hatton's excuse for not fighting PBF at 140 is that he had no fanbase in the US and needed to build one to make the fight bigger. But when a PBF fan says Cotto needs to do the same thing he's accused of ducking Cotto. They say it's fine for one fighter but not fine for the other, like Ram does.

Hey short bus, Cotto has been fighting in the US for years. . . he has a fanbase already.

Sure, Fraud called out Cotto when he was still green. Now that Cotto is ready Fraud has every excuse in the book including two pointless rematches no real boxing fans want. . . DLH II and Hatton II.

[BigReg]

Hey short bus, Cotto has been fighting in the US for years. . . he has a fanbase already.

Sure, Fraud called out Cotto when he was still green. Now that Cotto is ready Fraud has every excuse in the book including two pointless rematches no real boxing fans want. . . DLH II and Hatton II.

Can we please stop with this Miguel was green bullshit. Floyd went after him in 2005 after the Gatti fight. At the time, Cotto was damn near 25, had 23 fights under his belt, was a top 3 JWW, and had a title. Furthermore, he was at the Gatti fight. He clearly was there to check out a future opponent. Either that or he's just a fan of Floyd.

[frankwornank]

Cotto is the tougher fight because he is a full fledged welterweight. Hatton is just about as good a fighter as Cotto pound for pound. Floyd will beat Cotto. Cotto is an OK fighter but not that special. He is one dimensional and Floyd will out box him. I think you will find in the Gomez fight, that Cotto is not the fighter some might think he is.

[Ramshall1]

Can we please stop with this Miguel was green bullshit. Floyd went after him in 2005 after the Gatti fight. At the time, Cotto was damn near 25, had 23 fights under his belt, was a top 3 JWW, and had a title. Furthermore, he was at the Gatti fight. He clearly was there to check out a future opponent. Either that or he's just a fan of Floyd.

Cotto was a WW smashing to make 140, everyone knew he was to step up to 147 before taking on the biggest challenges.

Some thought he would not have the same power after moving up, , , then he crushes Quintana, Zab and beats Shane.

Cotto is clearly Frauds path of MOST resistance and thats why she is ducking him for pointless rematches with DLH and Hatton.

[Brian123]

base on what Data ?? he's only fought Hatton ..

Base on Floyd fight with Manfredy and Coralles fight with manfredy Coralles should have given floyd a very tuff fight maybe even his first loss .. Guess what ?!?!

I trust that you don't know shit.. I highly doubt cotto can beat Floyd Boxing, and lets not forget only one fighter was able to lay a decent left hook on floyd and that was 6 years ago (castillio) ,, Cotto wide left hook, while he's looking at the floor will have to change if he fights floyd or he may well put two slices of bread on floyd right hand now and get use to the taste , because thats what he will be eating right upper cuts and straight rights all night, with as wide as cotto delivers his hook .

and how do you know Cotto is stronger then floyd and if he is how do you know his strength will make a difference ? again based on what .. didn't they say that Oscar , Hatton , Gatti ,Baldi, castillio , Corralles and Chavez were all stronger then Floyd ??? what happen ???

point blank the only thing we know for certain is that Floyd will be the youngest ,most experience ,talented versatile fighter Cotto will ever face .

No the other thing we know is that Cotto has detroyed fighters that Mayrunner has fought and just simply beaten.

We also know Mayrunner has not beaten any (i.e refuses to fight) any of the top ten WW's-that speaks volumes.

[platnumpapi]

he has not fought cotto yet so why compare who would be a harder fight.just for the hell of it huh ? ok ill play that game, for now !

hatton is better at 140 so he says against mayweather it should not matter if it was 140 0r 147 but anyways cotto is proven to be a better fighter at 147.so you might as well say cotto is the tougher fighter for pbf, mayweather want pull a hatton on cotto.

any mayweathers check left hook want put cotto on his ass either, maybe a few of them after a while but not one goodone.cotto is bigger and stronger and a better boxer then hatton and he is more durable as well.

cotto would be a harder fight for floyd.

[pit]

No the other thing we know is that Cotto has detroyed fighters that Mayrunner has fought and just simply beaten.

We also know Mayrunner has not beaten any (i.e refuses to fight) any of the top ten WW's-that speaks volumes.


:lol: Yur funny what fighter did Cotto destroy , Zab was on his way to being KOed before he Fowled Floyd ..

Cotto on the other hand was on his way to going to the canvas before Fowling Zab ..

Corley and Cotto were in a Sesaw battle before the ref stopped the fight when Corley took a knee to get his head together ..

Floyd soundly gave Corely a one way beating for 11 straight rounds and the one Round Corley did win he still took a beating.

In both fights Cotto took some tuff punishment from Zab and Corley where Floyd came out untouched with little to no punishment ..

to put in simply floyd out classed fighter that cotto had to go to war with.

[whit]

I think the answer is obvious considering Hatton struggled against Callazo and was soundly outclassed by Mayweather in his only 2 fights at WW. Floyd would have also destroyed Hatton at 140 as well so I don't think the weight for this fight really mattered.

[Vanboxingfan]

Cotto's a way better fighter than Hatton, at least at 147 and this is the fight PBF needs to cement his legacy, at least as far as I'm concerned.

[jlrivera81]

You guys need to cut this crap about Mayweather calling out Cotto at 140.
IT NEVER HAPPENED!!! Get your damn facts straight. mayweather was asked about fighting Cotto. he is the one who said he had no interrest b/c Cotto was still "green" please stop saying that floyd wanted to fight Cotto b/c it's not true at all.

anyways, Cotto is the far bigger challenge at 147. as a matter of fact, i really think people just overrate hatton all together in general. the hatton at 140 is the same hatton at 147. it's just the fighters at 140 arent as strong as the 147 fighters. hatton is a terrible fighter with very limited skills. he is a lighter version of john ruiz. Cotto would kick his ass at 140 and 147.