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Cachibatches
07-14-2007, 07:03 AM
Why would the WBC name Oliver Mcall as a second mandatory when they already had one on deck with a champion emeritus at his heels. And if they already had two guys on deck and added a third, why is there talk of Virchis getting a shot at the interim championship?
Do we really need a WBC linear, emeritus, and interum champion?
I say enough is enough. Boxing fans, let us boycott an fight that has anything to do with the WBC until this bullshit is straightened out.
achillesthegreat
07-14-2007, 08:35 AM
What cocks - linear, emeritus, interim, 1st and 2nd mandatory. You can't make this shit up.
Instead of creating trinkets the boxing fraternity has to expose this sort of shit.
dragosuhail
07-14-2007, 08:47 AM
yes it is an unbelieveably hilarious situation. that's why i go on potential. and who i feel is "the man" in each division. that takes all the pain outta it for me :D
so basically when i watch wladimir i consider him the best, and the soon to unify champs to be his no1. mandatory.
light heavy is chad dawson
super middle is kessler/calzaghe (hard for me to decide)
middle pavlik
jr middle dunno really haven't been paying attention to the divison lately
welter floyd
jr welter hatton
lightweight and downwards im hazy on all the fighters but i consider pacman the beast in his divison etc.
this makes my life WAY easier when sitting down to watch fights and also to explain to new or potential fans to the sport. if a new commer asks me why i'd consider pacman the king even tho he's not a champ (i think, cant remember atm) is because of his actions. he simply blows everyone away and it's a matter of time before an actual titleholder (that includes the aging marquez) gets in the ring with pacman and loses and the real man gets something to hold up his pants.
i think that's the best way to look at it. unless the abc belts disolve tomorrow, no one will ever be happy or a unified champ for long.
e.g. look at wladmir and the pickle he's in. seriously, he ko'ed brock and bryd in great fashion leaving no doubt he is better than them.... yet the ibf is going to make brock and bryd fight an eliminator to be the no1. mandatory to wladimir's belt? WTF? seriously, i wouldn't be surprised if wladimir simply vacates his belt then!
Charles187
07-14-2007, 08:53 AM
yes it is an unbelieveably hilarious situation. that's why i go on potential. and who i feel is "the man" in each division. that takes all the pain outta it for me :D
so basically when i watch wladimir i consider him the best, and the soon to unify champs to be his no1. mandatory.
light heavy is chad dawson
super middle is kessler/calzaghe (hard for me to decide)
middle pavlik
jr middle dunno really haven't been paying attention to the divison lately
welter floyd
jr welter hatton
lightweight and downwards im hazy on all the fighters but i consider pacman the beast in his divison etc.
this makes my life WAY easier when sitting down to watch fights and also to explain to new or potential fans to the sport. if a new commer asks me why i'd consider pacman the king even tho he's not a champ (i think, cant remember atm) is because of his actions. he simply blows everyone away and it's a matter of time before an actual titleholder (that includes the aging marquez) gets in the ring with pacman and loses and the real man gets something to hold up his pants.
i think that's the best way to look at it. unless the abc belts disolve tomorrow, no one will ever be happy or a unified champ for long.
e.g. look at wladmir and the pickle he's in. seriously, he ko'ed brock and bryd in great fashion leaving no doubt he is better than them.... yet the ibf is going to make brock and bryd fight an eliminator to be the no1. mandatory to wladimir's belt? WTF? seriously, i wouldn't be surprised if wladimir simply vacates his belt then!
Agree with most of this but Pavlik has to beat Taylor to be the man at 160 (which i personally think he will)
surreal deal
07-14-2007, 08:59 AM
i hate this 'the most prestigious belt' shit too.junior witter for one.like saying curly is the most intelligent of the 3 stooges.theyre all a fukn joke.
Heavyrighthand
07-14-2007, 09:43 AM
One more champion, and they've have enough for a singing group.
The WBC Champions, on tour, now! LOL
I think they ought to weed out one, and have McCall fight Peter if Maskaev gets screwed out of it.
Do we really need a WBC linear, emeritus, and interum champion?
Do we need WBA Super Champ, regular champ and interim champ all at the same time? Well, it's a tough one to decide which sanctioning body is the biggest joke at the moment.
Dostoevsky
07-14-2007, 09:45 AM
What the hell is going on?
These people are fucking nuts.
nervousxtian
07-14-2007, 10:13 AM
Why won't Maskaev just sign the damn fight. He ain't getting any younger, and this is his last shot at a payday.
I know he wanted Vitili, and the money they could make in Moscow or Germany, but he's gotta deal with Peter. Duva is right, without a belt Oleg is nobody, the belt (as worthless as it is too real fans) still makes this an HBO main event fight, as opposed to a BAD or co-feature.
Why won't Maskaev just sign the damn fight. He ain't getting any younger, and this is his last shot at a payday.
You answered the question yourself, this is probably his last payday and he wants to make as much money as possible. The usual purse spilt in a mandatroy defence is 70% for the champ and 30% for the challenger. The contract offered to him has 55% for him and 45% for Peter so it's obviuos that he isn't happy about that and wants the usual purse spilt. Why should he settle for that?
Asterion
07-14-2007, 10:31 AM
That's the problem with boxing: ambitious and corrupt men like Sulaiman, Valcarcel, Muhammad, etc, and also greedy promoters like King and Arum.
The usual purse spilt in a mandatroy defence is 70% for the champ and 30% for the challenger. The contract offered to him has 55% for him and 45% for Peter so it's obviuos that he isn't happy about that and wants the usual purse spilt. Why should he settle for that?
Spot on.
Cachibatches
07-14-2007, 02:59 PM
Not to sound like a Sultan sack swinger (its too late for that:lol:) but
the WBO has to this point not fucked anythin up.
They had a legit KO succession one after another.
At least at Heavy that is.
...and thier lineage goes back to Klit who is generally considered the best right now.
Not bad, but its all alphebet soup. Fuck them all. I thought I had seen everything when the IBF came into existence. I never thought I would become so angry abou the situation again.
Its hard to beleive that I an now nostalgic for the days when there were only TWO world champs in each division, or even three.
DamonD
07-14-2007, 03:03 PM
The WBC most definitely has the most screwed-up situation surrounding their title belt at the moment.
Think back to when it was Rahman-Maskaev II...they were going to fight, and the winner would face Toney. It seemed so simple back then.
Now? Total quagmire.
The IBF could be trying to outdo them though, if this proposed Byrd-Brock #1 contender bout was to happen...
TBooze
07-14-2007, 03:08 PM
It is the WBC...
Why Bother Commenting?:nut
barneyrub
07-14-2007, 03:08 PM
...and thier lineage goes back to Klit who is generally considered the best right now.
Not bad, but its all alphebet soup. Fuck them all. I thought I had seen everything when the IBF came into existence. I never thought I would become so angry abou the situation again.
Its hard to beleive that I an now nostalgic for the days when there were only TWO world champs in each division, or even three.Thats why wlad needs to beat the chagaev ibragamov winner, they will hold a lineage of victory over him, the titles they hold are almost secondary to that fact in terms of wlad proving he is the man. To redeem the brewster loss he needs to beat this winner.
Vantage_West
07-14-2007, 03:11 PM
and they also fucked joel casamayor by taking his title....for no reason
[Only registered and activated users can see links] has anyone heard the music for the frontpage lol
Vantage_West
07-14-2007, 03:18 PM
It is the WBC...
Why Bother Commenting?:nut"we be crooks"
brooklyn1550
07-14-2007, 03:24 PM
and they also fucked joel casamayor by taking his title....for no reason
Taking Casa's title was worse than anything they have done with the WBC Heavyweight Title situation by far.
Vantage_West
07-14-2007, 03:41 PM
Taking Casa's title was worse than anything they have done with the WBC Heavyweight Title situation by far.why did they do it :huh there was no warning it was like they wanted corrales to win
my reason was when chico went overwieght ha they got an out of jail card
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