question about ab work outs

[murphyx500]

How often do you do them, and what are the best ab exercises to go for?

I assume the traditional sit up with hands behind the head is everyone's bread and butter? Basically I'm looking for a good ab program so I can measure my progress. To give you some idea, I managed only 55 sit ups in minutes, though that is an improvement to when I first started.

[sheff-fighter]

I too would be interested in this, I think my abs program is rubbish but don't know what's the best stuff to do/times etc to be aiming for

[Punisher33]

I think everyone has a different method of training there abs, it is one body part you could workout everyday if you want, because your not growing anything, so there's no need for rest.

There is a ton of great exercises for the abs, I myself stick by 3.
1. Basic Crunch- I myself keep my knees up and put a light medicine ball on my abs for added tention, as I come up to my knees a hold for a second and go back down.

2. Obique Twists- you could use either a broom stick or medicine ball to twist with, if your using a broom stick you want to put it behind your back like and hold as if your squating, I like to twist side to side without stoping in the middle, but some say it is better do that, than the way I do, but my way works for me.

3. Planks- maybe the best ab workout right now, you get in a pushup postion, but instead of putting you hands on the ground, you use your elbows to keep yourself balanced, the goal is to hold yourself in that position as long as you can without falling, this is also a great way to gauge how strong your abs truly are, if you cant hold this posistion for at least one minute, your abs strength needs work, over 3 minutes your a pro.

I do 3 sets of each exercise 5 or 6 days a week, I dont have a full on 6 pack, but I have a pretty thick built, similar to 50 cents, not quite as muscular though. If my diet was better, I feel I would have a good six pack, I just got to stay away from the beer and soda pop more.

[murphyx500]

I think everyone has a different method of training there abs, it is one body part you could workout everyday if you want, because your not growing anything, so there's no need for rest.

There is a ton of great exercises for the abs, I myself stick by 3.
1. Basic Crunch- I myself keep my knees up and put a light medicine ball on my abs for added tention, as I come up to my knees a hold for a second and go back down.

2. Obique Twists- you could use either a broom stick or medicine ball to twist with, if your using a broom stick you want to put it behind your back like and hold as if your squating, I like to twist side to side without stoping in the middle, but some say it is better do that, than the way I do, but my way works for me.

3. Planks- maybe the best ab workout right now, you get in a pushup postion, but instead of putting you hands on the ground, you use your elbows to keep yourself balanced, the goal is to hold yourself in that position as long as you can without falling, this is also a great way to gauge how strong your abs truly are, if you cant hold this posistion for at least one minute, your abs strength needs work, over 3 minutes your a pro.

I do 3 sets of each exercise 5 or 6 days a week, I dont have a full on 6 pack, but I have a pretty thick built, similar to 50 cents, not quite as muscular though. If my diet was better, I feel I would have a good six pack, I just got to stay away from the beer and soda pop more.

cool nice advice. Did you jump straight in to 5-6 days a week or build it up?

[Punisher33]

cool nice advice. Did you jump straight in to 5-6 days a week or build it up? I think if your just starting out at ab workouts, try starting out doing it 3 to 4 days a week, but if you been training your abs for awhile, I would make the change to 5 to 6 days a week, just make sure you keep up with it, and you will see results. I have been doing alot of reading regarding planks, theres pretty easy to do, and there the best way of gauging where you are in abdominal strength. If you want I could look in my Men's Health mag, to check the levels at which you should be at, I do remember off hand, that if you cant hold the plank position for at least 30 seconds, your labeled as weak and over 2 minutes your pretty strong, and one minute your average.

[greengloves]

i have a set of exercises i do alongside my push up exercises,alternating each time

i start of with trunk curls short - basically lying flat with your knees bent,your hands on your thighs and you use your stomach to pull yourself up until you touch your knee with the fingertips.

trunk curls long - same thing except you lift until the heel of you hand touches your knees

ab crunches - hands at the side of your head and crunch your head toward your knees and your knees towards your head

sit up with twist

leg raises,simply holding,every ten seconds switching from straight out to crossed over

leg paddles

finishing off with traditional sit ups

i then finish my work out by lying flat of my stomach and lifting my trunk off the ground and hold for a minute,and repeat.

i do each exercise for 1 minute and aim to do 30 reps in each minute.

[joekirkbycobra]

bodybuildng websites tend 2 have good workouts

[peter5]

I think everyone has a different method of training there abs, it is one body part you could workout everyday if you want, because your not growing anything, so there's no need for rest.

There is a ton of great exercises for the abs, I myself stick by 3.
1. Basic Crunch- I myself keep my knees up and put a light medicine ball on my abs for added tention, as I come up to my knees a hold for a second and go back down.

2. Obique Twists- you could use either a broom stick or medicine ball to twist with, if your using a broom stick you want to put it behind your back like and hold as if your squating, I like to twist side to side without stoping in the middle, but some say it is better do that, than the way I do, but my way works for me.

3. Planks- maybe the best ab workout right now, you get in a pushup postion, but instead of putting you hands on the ground, you use your elbows to keep yourself balanced, the goal is to hold yourself in that position as long as you can without falling, this is also a great way to gauge how strong your abs truly are, if you cant hold this posistion for at least one minute, your abs strength needs work, over 3 minutes your a pro.

I do 3 sets of each exercise 5 or 6 days a week, I dont have a full on 6 pack, but I have a pretty thick built, similar to 50 cents, not quite as muscular though. If my diet was better, I feel I would have a good six pack, I just got to stay away from the beer and soda pop more.

3) sounds the same as the bridge I do?

[MrSmall]

Do russian twists, look them up.
Decline situps.
Hanging leg raises.
sitting v-ups
Jack-knife situps
Lying hip swings (basically lie down, hold onto something with either arm and swing your legs left and right)
Ab wheel rollouts

[joekirkbycobra]

ive built up 2 50 reps ten sets of each of these
1.basic sit up
2. leg raise up 6 inch then up 2 12 inch lower to 6 again
3. straight leg sit up
4. double crunches at a fast pace

i do that 4 times a week an full body exercises 3 times a week then doing 3 3s plank an 6 1s leg raise holds
it seems to work for me

[karatekid530]

ive built up 2 50 reps ten sets of each of these
1.basic sit up
2. leg raise up 6 inch then up 2 12 inch lower to 6 again
3. straight leg sit up
4. double crunches at a fast pace

i do that 4 times a week an full body exercises 3 times a week then doing 3 3s plank an 6 1s leg raise holds
it seems to work for me

so you're doing 2000 reps and then the rest of your workout?

[Knoxknockout]

If you take a 35lb plate and twist at the middle, it will harden you up pretty good and helps strengthen your hooks. Planks for extended periods also work well for hardening your core.

[joekirkbycobra]

so you're doing 2000 reps and then the rest of your workout?i do it at the end
or after tea

[karatekid530]

o, well either way that many reps just seems a little excessive

[elTerrible]

I have been doing hanging leg raises in the captains chair and the decline situps. I have noticed a good increase in abdominal strength over the last few months. It is much easier to do them and I can do a lot more now.

We have some shitty ab machine at the gym but it seems to work my arms more than abs. I dont feel any burn in my abs where as the above two exercises really wear me out.

Also I like the decline situps because I noticed that I dont strain my neck at all the way I did with doing standard crunches on the floor.

just my 2 cents. Im not an athelete or trainer or anything.

[Corrosion]

The best abdominal workout is heavy squats and deadlifts.

Your abdominal muscles will be stabilizing your torso throughout the entire lift.

Anything you can do 20+ repetitions with...is useless.

[AK-47]

Them planks exercise sounds good. Im gonna try that
And instead of putting your hands behind your head put it on the side

[Relentless]

The best abdominal workout is heavy squats and deadlifts.

Your abdominal muscles will be stabilizing your torso throughout the entire lift.

Anything you can do 20+ repetitions with...is useless.

a boxer has different needs than a powerlifter, a powerlifter doesn't know how an uppercut to the solar plexus feels, deadlifts and squats aren't good enough.

[joekirkbycobra]

medicine ball drops

[speero]

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Edgerrin James' ab workout... i use this for like 4 or 5 months until im used to it, then switch to a different routine. i think its very important to keep changing things up.

the idea of that workout is to do it as fast as possible with no rest, once you're down to getting it done in around 6-7 minutes, change to a different routine.

[MagnificentMatt]

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Edgerrin James' ab workout... i use this for like 4 or 5 months until im used to it, then switch to a different routine. i think its very important to keep changing things up.

the idea of that workout is to do it as fast as possible with no rest, once you're down to getting it done in around 6-7 minutes, change to a different routine.

Its a great routine, just did it today, didnt time myself, but i dont think i got it done in 6, i will see next time though..

It def burnt me up though haha.

[viru§™]

The best abdominal workout is heavy squats and deadlifts.

Your abdominal muscles will be stabilizing your torso throughout the entire lift.

Anything you can do 20+ repetitions with...is useless.

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[viru§™]

a boxer has different needs than a powerlifter, a powerlifter doesn't know how an uppercut to the solar plexus feels, deadlifts and squats aren't good enough.

For strength what works your abs more, stabilizing 100KG on your shoulders or raising your shoulders off the floor 500 times (crunches)? Taking a punch is different conditioning.

[speero]

Its a great routine, just did it today, didnt time myself, but i dont think i got it done in 6, i will see next time though..

It def burnt me up though haha.

i think somewhere in the article it says that edgerrin james does the entire thing in 7 minutes flat.. pretty insane.

[joekirkbycobra]

i think somewhere in the article it says that edgerrin james does the entire thing in 7 minutes flat.. pretty insane.not bad

[Corrosion]

a boxer has different needs than a powerlifter, a powerlifter doesn't know how an uppercut to the solar plexus feels, deadlifts and squats aren't good enough.

Yes a boxer DOES have diffrent needs than a powerlifter.

If deadlifts and squats are not good enough, then nothing is, because crunches do absolutely nothing.

Flexion of the anterior core is useless to a fighter. Hell, I'd almost wager to say it's useless to anyone. Unless you are a professional situp artist.

As for your abdominals getting "hard" enough to withstand body punches...

It's not going to happen. Abdominals have VERY LITTLE potential for hypertrophy. They are not going to grow, or become rocks.

[Corrosion]

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Seriously, if some of these people here used their brains instead of blindly following what "ye olde fighters" did in the twenties, thay'd be making 5x better progress than they are now.

Note to everyone: Just because a professional does it, dosen't mean it's the best thing to do.

Most pro boxers are where they are in SPITE of their training. Not because of it.

[viru§™]

Seriously, if some of these people here used their brains instead of blindly following what "ye olde fighters" did in the twenties, thay'd be making 5x better progress than they are now.

Note to everyone: Just because a professional does it, dosen't mean it's the best thing to do.

Most pro boxers are where they are in SPITE of their training. Not because of it.
Completly agree.

[viru§™]

By Charles Poliquin -

7. Want Great Abs? Then Do Your Squats! Abdominal specialization for athletes? It could happen, but the abs actually have very little potential for strength increases when compared to other muscles like calves. Along with the grip, the abdominals are the least likely to improve with training. Some of these guys can claim all these poundages used in ab training, but it's actually the psoas doing the work. If you truly isolate the abs, after six to eight weeks an athlete will plateau the rest of his life. Research has shown that the most coordinated athletes master the most difficult abdominal exercises in six to eight weeks. The only things that increase abdominal improvement are squatting and deadlifting.

[murphyx500]

I've been squating and deadlifting a while and have noticed very little if any ab improvement. I don't understad how boxers have hard midsections then. This thread has raised more questiont to me than answers.

[Benny1975]

I find volume works for me. i.e. loads of reps, 100+ for various. I don't hold my hands behind my head and find my neck gets some benefit from lifting my head.

[Corrosion]

I've been squating and deadlifting a while and have noticed very little if any ab improvement. I don't understad how boxers have hard midsections then. This thread has raised more questiont to me than answers.

They have "hard" midsections because they have a low bodyfat percentage. The less subcutaneous fat you have covering your muscles, the more they are going to stand out.

Boxers should not concern themselves with vanity anyway.

[Little_Mac]

Most pro boxers are where they are in SPITE of their training. Not because of it.

:huh Blasphemy! This is the most ludicrous thing I've heard all day.

You think ANY human being is just born with the endurance to just go 12 rounds? Wrong.

Most pros are where they are because they work their ass off.

To the OP: Medicine ball drops. Start off small, and work your way up to heavier weights.

[dwilson]

Great advice. I have always had a strong ad section but I may introduce some of these into my routine.

I get so board of doing the same thing all the time. Thanks guys.

[Corrosion]

:huh Blasphemy! This is the most ludicrous thing I've heard all day.

You think ANY human being is just born with the endurance to just go 12 rounds? Wrong.

Most pros are where they are because they work their ass off.

To the OP: Medicine ball drops. Start off small, and work your way up to heavier weights.

You're right, no one is born to go 12 rounds. You get that by training. But they get that endurance by their shadowboxing, sparring, jumprope and heavybag training. They get it by BOXING.

Running has virtually NO CARRYOVER.

YOU GET BETTER AT BOXING BY BOXING. Is that hard to understand?

Thousands of situps don't make great boxers. Running miles and miles and miles dosen't make great boxers. HARD BOXING MAKES GREAT BOXERS.

[murphyx500]

You're right, no one is born to go 12 rounds. You get that by training. But they get that endurance by their shadowboxing, sparring, jumprope and heavybag training. They get it by BOXING.

Running has virtually NO CARRYOVER.

YOU GET BETTER AT BOXING BY BOXING. Is that hard to understand?

Thousands of situps don't make great boxers. Running miles and miles and miles dosen't make great boxers. HARD BOXING MAKES GREAT BOXERS.

that's quite controversial, seeing as most pros and amatures do roadwork.

[Corrosion]

that's quite controversial, seeing as most pros and amatures do roadwork.

Just because they do it dosen't mean it's the most effective thing to do.

As I mentioned before, most pros succeed in SPITE of their training/conditioning.

[Little_Mac]

You're right, no one is born to go 12 rounds. You get that by training. But they get that endurance by their shadowboxing, sparring, jumprope and heavybag training. They get it by BOXING.

Running has virtually NO CARRYOVER.

YOU GET BETTER AT BOXING BY BOXING. Is that hard to understand?

Thousands of situps don't make great boxers. Running miles and miles and miles dosen't make great boxers. HARD BOXING MAKES GREAT BOXERS.

:roll: Well now that you put it that way... haha

I'm still going to run, at the very least it strengthens your legs and controls your weight

I always considered calisthenics, roadwork, bagwork and sparring "training". Not just the boxing stuff.

[karatekid530]

You're right, no one is born to go 12 rounds. You get that by training. But they get that endurance by their shadowboxing, sparring, jumprope and heavybag training. They get it by BOXING.

Running has virtually NO CARRYOVER.

YOU GET BETTER AT BOXING BY BOXING. Is that hard to understand?

Thousands of situps don't make great boxers. Running miles and miles and miles dosen't make great boxers. HARD BOXING MAKES GREAT BOXERS.

i agree with some of this. I feel the running i do doesn't really help my boxing a whole lot but it is still a good work out. Running/sprinting drills in boxing are good for willpower more than anything i think.

[silvy_chris]

You're right, no one is born to go 12 rounds. You get that by training. But they get that endurance by their shadowboxing, sparring, jumprope and heavybag training. They get it by BOXING.

Running has virtually NO CARRYOVER.

YOU GET BETTER AT BOXING BY BOXING. Is that hard to understand?

Thousands of situps don't make great boxers. Running miles and miles and miles dosen't make great boxers. HARD BOXING MAKES GREAT BOXERS.

u cannot be serious can you? start doing sprints 3-4 times a week and u realy think this isnt gonna cary over and help your stamina? It is also a phycological thing, running gives you a physical and mental egde.

[viru§™]

u cannot be serious can you? start doing sprints 3-4 times a week and u realy think this isnt gonna cary over and help your stamina? It is also a phycological thing, running gives you a physical and mental egde.
I've never understood this "mental edge" which can only be gained from running.

Are you a professional boxer? Where does this inside info come from I am curious.
You don't have to be a boxer to know most of what he is saying, it's basic human physiology.

[Relentless]

I think I will take the word of Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali that running improves their performance rather than a guy called Corrosion on ESB training section, no offence.

you should also take their word for starving yourself to make weight.

running works an energy system, there are more than one way around that.

[Rakim]

Corrosion and Virus are right on this one.

[viru§™]

Well if it's somethign he has no experience of , he cannot really know for sure.

I mean comon, top level pro boxers say that something works and some guy on a message board says different, wheres his world titles to back these claims ??????

I have read countless biographys for top pros , and many have performed below par due to lack of putting in the miles, this guy says they are wrong?? What's his credentials?
Running improves aerobic and anaerobic perfromace as does cycling, swimming, rowing, skipping, cardio machines and playing sports. The only reason boxers run is because of people like you the "Every other boxer runs so to be good I have to as well" kind of people.

There is NOTHING special about running.

And the "Performed below par due to lack of putting in the miles" is bullshit. If you lose a match it comes down to many more factors than not running enough.

[viru§™]

Do you box?

If yes I presume that you do not run?
That isn't even an argument to what I'm telling you. Boxers need to box to become good boxers. Running is used to improve an energy system THAT IS ALL. There are many other ways to improve an energy system such as rowing, swimming, cycling and actually boxing.

I do martial arts, yes. I didn't really see any improvement in sparring from running (I don't even bother to run at all anymore), I started seeing improvements when I started sparring harder for longer.

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[viru§™]

By Alwyn Cosgrove:

Ah-ha! #3: Cardiovascular programming is an ass-backward concept. I don't know when I first thought this, but it was confirmed to me when viewing Lance Armstrong's performance in the New York Marathon.
Throughout my college education, countless training certification programs and seminars, I'd been taught the same thing: that cardiovascular exercise was necessary to improve the cardiovascular system and subsequently aerobic performance. But there seemed to be an inherent flaw in that argument.
Let's say I tested your aerobic fitness through a treadmill test.
Then let's say that for the next sixteen weeks, we developed a five-day per week aerobic training program that involved you running at various heart rates and for various lengths of times. The program would progressively increase in difficulty and duration, and the end result was a very significant improvement in your aerobic fitness.
At the end of this sixteen-week period, how much do you expect your swimming times to have improved? Marginally, if at all, right? It seems almost stupid to ask. But wait a second. If you have one cardiovascular system, why doesn't your cardiovascular system improve across the board regardless of the activity?
More to the point, why didn't Lance Armstrong, with perhaps the highest recorded VO2 max in history, win the New York Marathon? Or beat people with lesser aerobic levels than himself?
The seven-time winner of the Tour de France, the greatest endurance cyclist, quite possibly the greatest endurance athlete in the world, finished the Marathon in 868th place, and described the event as the "hardest physical thing" he'd ever done.

The flaw in this thinking was looking solely at VO2 max: the "engine," as it were. It's fair to say that Lance had a "Formula One" engine, but his wheels and chassis were built for a different kind of race. In other words, he just didn't have the structural development for running.
Lance was a cyclist: his body had adapted to the demands of cycling, but not to the specific demands of running. In fact, the longest distance he'd ever run prior to the Marathon was 16 miles. Lance had developed strength, postural endurance, and flexibility in the correct "cycling muscles," but it didn't transfer to running the way his VO2 max did.
The muscles don't move because of cardiovascular demand. It's the reverse. The cardio system is elevated because of muscular demand. We need to program the body based on the movements it's going to perform, not based on the cardiovascular system.
Basically, if that muscular system can't handle the stress of performing thousands of repetitions (which is what you're doing, after all, when running or cycling), then we have to condition that muscular system first. And by doing so, we automatically improve cardiovascular conditioning.
The only reason there's any demand on the cardiovascular system is because the muscular system places that demand: the muscles require oxygen in order to continue to work. In fact, cardiovascular exercise is impossible without moving the muscle first.
I've seen this across various sports. The cardio conditioning required to run a 10K won't transfer to motocross or jujitsu.
Conclusion: If cardio training doesn't transfer well from one activity to another, and it only 'kicks' in because of muscular demand, we should program muscular activity first in order to create a cardiovascular response.

If your just going to respond with "But the pros do it" or "You're not a boxer so I don't care what you say" don't even bother responding.

[Little_Mac]

That's cool stuff. I'm still doing hill sprints though, those DO work, I know from experience. And you don't run up any hills when boxing. So I don't care what anyone says :lol:

[viru§™]

I will respond in any way I like.

True. But there's no point in replying if it's the same ignorant responce over and over.

You are passing out information on a boxing training section as gospel yet the fact is you are not even a boxer, don't get all ratty when people question your experience in relation to your speeches.

I'm giving quoted information from Alwyn Cosgrove -

Alwyn Cosgrove is one of the most in-demand and exciting coaches, writers, and speakers in the fitness industry today. For the past sixteen years Alwyn has been committed to achieving excellence in the field of fitness training and athletic preparation. Specializing in performance enhancement, Alwyn has helped countless individuals and athletes reach their goals through sound scientific training.

If you don't want to believe one of the top performance enhancement coaches in the world thats fine.

[viru§™]

Look me in the eye and tell me running doesn't help Corey Spinks.
Smart thing to say on the Internet...

[viru§™]

I do appreciate your input and find it interesting, while I am skeptical of some things.

Yes you are quoting Alwyn Cosgrove, but you also give your own opinion surley.

As for Alwyn Cosgrove, I do not know much about her.

Does she work with any boxers as I saw nothing in your example?? If not then ???

BTW I thought the Spinks one was funny, half the damn time that guy is running.

For the past eighteen years Alwyn Cosgrove has been committed to achieving excellence in the field of fitness training and athletic preparation. Specializing in performance enhancement, Alwyn has helped countless individuals and athletes reach their goals through sound scientific training.
Born in Scotland and initially exposed to fitness training through an intense competitive sport martial arts background, Alwyn began reading and studying any training related material he could get his hands on. This led to formal academic studies in Sports Performance at West Lothian College and then progressed on to receiving an honors degree in Sports Science from Chester College, the University of Liverpool. Alwyn is also certified with distinction as a strength & conditioning specialist with the National Strength and Conditioning Association.

A former Taekwon-do international champion , Alwyn has utilized his personal experience as an athlete and combined it with the advanced theories of European Sports Science and the principles of modern strength and conditioning systems.
During his career as a strength and conditioning coach, Alwyn has worked with a wide variety of clientele, including several Olympic and national level athletes, five World Champions and professionals in a multitude of sports including boxing, martial arts, soccer, ice skating, football, fencing, triathlon, rugby, bodybuilding, dance and fitness competition.
A sought after ‘expert’ for several of the country’s leading publications including a regular in Men’s Health magazine, Alwyn is available to develop physical preparation programs to take you to a new level of development.


Doesn't say which boxers though.

[Healy]

Cheers Punisher for the post in the 1st page. Iv it saved and will add other exercises to it

[Relentless]

WIth regards to sparring , a boxer cannot spar and spar and spar and spar and spar , it's just not feasible. Careers would not last half as long, people would be messed and punched up and damaged.

With regard Alwyn Cosgrove, I mean the studies seem good and everything but 100 years of boxing knowledge and top class actual boxing coaches today combined with conditioners , their opinion means more to me, obviously we will disagree, good discussion though.

didn't guys like hagler spar 20+ rounds for 15 round title fights?

[Relentless]

alright then i'll start running to become a better boxer :good

[Relentless]

How about to improve endurance and stamina?

endurance i get from bags, shadow, rope, floor work.

stamina from interval training, i do run once or twice a week just to keep the weight down.

[Relentless]

Better idea spar 3 hours a day, no actually because that will only make you better at "sparring"

Fight 12 rounds a day with different boxers and small gloves proper fights and you will be a much better fighter...

Fight one fight a day and you will be much better at fighting, let me know how you feel in a month.

in the amateurs you have to do that sometimes, a kid from my gym boxed 4 times on the same night, another one fought 4 days in a row straight.

[Relentless]

we are talking about ams are we not?

the thread starter is an amateur boxer, none of us here are pros.

[Relentless]

Do you agreee that running has NO CARRY OVER>..

yes or no,


I agreew with professional boxing trainers


Whats your credentials?

Your a young amatuer, that all??

Does your trainer tell you to run tell me

i've gotten way too many injuries from running to say good things about it.

and yes my trainer has us run long distance just once a week, he believes in shorts sprints, interval running on hills etc, he must have been doing something right to be able to make 200+ national champs including nigel benn, kevin mitchell and mathhew marsh.

apart from reading books what are your credentials?

[viru§™]

I am not a boxer I freely admit that.

However I think somebody would need pretty high credentials to presume they know bette than Muhammad Ali, Angello Dundee, Freddie Roach, Manny Steward, Teddy Atlas, MIke Tyson and basically every professionally boxing legend.

The poster I reffered to said running has quote "NO CARRYOVER"
Of course it does, your own trainer makes you run, sprinting is running, hill running, is once again running.
Actually he said running has virtually no carry over. I agree. Being able to run 3 miles does not mean you'll be able to punch non stop for 3 rounds. To punch for 3 rounds straight you must punch for 3 rounds straight.

If you take a marathon runner and get him sparring he'll be half dead within a min or two. Why? Because his body is not used to the demands placed upon it. Running and boxing are two completely different things.

Hopefully boxers will eventually realise how overated running really is.

[RDJ]

You're right, no one is born to go 12 rounds. You get that by training. But they get that endurance by their shadowboxing, sparring, jumprope and heavybag training. They get it by BOXING.

Running has virtually NO CARRYOVER.

YOU GET BETTER AT BOXING BY BOXING. Is that hard to understand?

Thousands of situps don't make great boxers. Running miles and miles and miles dosen't make great boxers. HARD BOXING MAKES GREAT BOXERS.

I fully agree. Now, why should I do olympic lifts and squats again? :huh

[Relentless]

I fully agree. Now, why should I do olympic lifts and squats again? :huh

so you learn to lift your opponent up after he has won.

[Bombs]

the best routine is too not count just do it til you cant do it any more. then rest then do it again.

[viru§™]

the best routine is too not count just do it til you cant do it any more. then rest then do it again.

Working to muscle failure is not a good thing.

[BlackWater]

the best routine is too not count just do it til you cant do it any more. then rest then do it again.

What Virus said. Training to failure is training to fail.

[joekirkbycobra]

i try n keep to 3 min work 1 min rest with everything