Bute v. Diaconu at 175 ~ who wins and why?

[Decebal]

I think it would be a very good, close, hard-fought fight. I think Diaconu would get the better of Bute and stop him. When Bute hits his opponents, they usually box, cover up or move or retreat or jab to keep him at bay. Diaconu would jump him and head-hunt him with a left cross, instead.

Diaconu TKO 8

How about you? What do you think?

[Decebal]

Serious question...:?

[Brickhaus]

Bute by easy UD. Diaconu's not even close to being in the same class as Bute, IMHO. Unless his chin completely abandons him at 175, I can't see Bute losing this one as long as he doesn't try to please the fans too much.

[andyZOR]

They shouldn't ever fight. Doubt they would either.

Diaconu is so underrated on these forums.

[Decebal]

I hate to take the high road but I would rather not see them fight. Too many other fish to fry/need fryin', however the sayin' goes...

Of course...this is very much a fantasy match-up. I think it's a very interesting one, though!

With Diaconu, Bute would have to come to fight; he couldn't just box and rely on his chin. In fact, the way Diaconu fights, it's not even a question of how good your chin is, becaue he puts you onto your back-foot and snaps your neck back very quickly - you have to go down, even if you are not hurt. :think

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50 views yet only 2 votes and 4 opinions...:?

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62 views yet only 3 votes and 4 opinions...:?

[scorpy]

Bute by UD. These two guys know eaach other too well. I'M pretty sure Diaconu wouldn't be as agressive as he usually is and vs a superior technician like Bute, it would cost him the fight.

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Bute by UD. These two guys know eaach other too well. I'M pretty sure Diaconu wouldn't be as agressive as he usually is and vs a superior technician like Bute, it would cost him the fight.

Why wouldn't he be as aggressive as usual?

I think he'd be more aggressive than usual because knowing Bute so well, he'd know he cannot outbox him and that puting it all on the line is his best bet.

Diaconu has one of the best left hooks at 160-175. His right hook is not bad either...could do some damage.

[Decebal]

Damn...this has to be one of my worst threads EVER!

I know this fight will never happen...but if it did...IF it did...:hey

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What surprised me is that the posters that have voted for Bute are posters who will have seen Diaconu fight at least 2-3 times...right?

Why is it that I think he is dangerous and you guys don't?:think

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I guess people are either thinking that there's no point in commenting on a fight that would never happen or that I'm trying to hype Diaconu with this thread...:think

I'm not trying to hype Diaconu. He might turn out to fall short and just end up an also-ran contender, but right now, I think he's dangerous. Against Bute, because Bute doesn't move backwards well, nor has the best defence, Diaconu would pose a big threat...bigger than Andrade, for example, becausewhilst not being a pressure fighter, he does jump you with accurate, well timed, hard punches...

A bit disappointed people don't take this thread seriously...it's an interesting style match-up...

...at least the Montreal posters could debate this with me...:|

[Decebal]

We all know what Bute does well. Very good boxer-puncher. Nice counterpuncher, good footwork, athletic, good stamina...etc.

But this is why he is made for Diaconu:

1. footwork - always mentioned as one of Diaconu's weaknesses - bearlike and flat-footed; but here's the thing - Diaconu doesn't use his footwork to box and float around the ring. He uses his feet to help him close the distance on his opponent when headhunting - he does so quickly, precisely, economically, without losing balance.

Bute would counterpunch him and use his footwork to keep himself out of trouble, but he couldn't get out of trouble when Diaconu charges - here is why:

2. Diaconu uses wide loopy shots to get himself inside and to set up his very fast, precise and powerful left hooks. These loopy shots have always worked well against Bute, as Bika has shown during the first 4-5 rounds. The difference is, Diaconu is more precise, more powerful and more explosive than Bika, but less spring-like than Bika. Also, where Bika used to land a loopy right, he rarely followed up with lefts or combinations...inside, he was just lost, and had to fall back on the dark arts, thus losing all the advantage of space his loopy rights were helping him gain. Well, Diaconu follows up very well - his loopy rights would be followed by hard precise and very fast left hooks, followed by more rights and left crosses/hooks...These combos, put together precisely and explosively would definitely put Bute on his backfoot. And guess what...Bute ain't great on his backfoot...So...once inside, Diaconu would gain the upper hand, not least with his left uppercut. Bute's height would be a disadvantage inside against Diaconu. He'd try to get out of range but Diaconu would catch him with another explosive loopy shot...Bute would fall against the ropes/fall down for sure - this is not a question of chin either, but of momentum, powerpunching delivered at the right time, precisely. A couple of these KDs and Diaconu would win on points...but this is not how I see it...

3. Diaconu's defence is nothing magnificent, but it is effective. He keeps a high tight guard and bobs up and down and left to right, like a pendulum, from the mid-section. (Diaconu doesn't do headmovement)

Bute would of course try to keep the fight on the outside, and use his jab to keep Diaconu at bay. Simple counterpunching wouldn't do here...he would need to come forward too, from time to time, and move quickly right and left when he notices a theat from Diaconu, whilst maintining the jabbing action. Bute's jab, however, wouldn't do much against Diaconu...If Bute opened up some more, Diaconu would move slightly to his left and deliver a big hook to the body with his left, making Bute lose his balance.

Bute would have to exploit Diaconu's stamina problem and inathleticism for 12 full rounds to win...and even then... cannot see Diaconu headhunting explosively. The way he hits could very easily cut Bute, leading to a stoppage (my prediction).

The worst thing Bute could do is to brawl with Diaconu. Diaconu would suckerpunch him to death and drop him for sure, if he tried that...Diaconu doesn't have chin problems and inside he is very hard to hit.

Both of them have good instincts, but Bute's weariness to press his advantage would be the downfall of him against Diaconu. Diaconu has a very well developed killed instinct; he knows when the right time to strike is.

So...even though I think someone like Andrade loses to Bute, because the latter can use movement and boxing to win in a hard fight, I cannot see Bute lasting 12 rounds against Diaconu. The difference is that Diaconu is much more dangerous than Andrade, if less tough and relentless. He pouncess; he doesn't drown you, like Andrade. Bute can deal with Andrade's style with movement; he cannot deal with Diaconu's style though.

Diaconu wins by TKO.

I would pick Diaconu against everyone at 168 except Kessler and Calzaghe...although I would expect him to drop Calzaghe at least once.

He definitely beats open-defence Froch and dodgy-chinned Inkin. Andrade would give him problems, however. This is 55/45 for me...with the slightest of edges to Diaconu who does well against fighters who like to come forward swingining...Diaconu's stamina would not be such a great problem against such fighters - even one with great stamina, such as Andrade.

At 175, Dawson has what it takes to beat him, although if Dawson's chin is shakey, Diaconu should have at least a 25% chance against him. Hopkins would beat Diaconu, though. Just the wrong style for Diaconu, I think. Everyone else would have to be on top form against a top Diaconu, to win.

This is what I think, right now, anyway.:good

What do you think?

[Decebal]

Good news for both Bute and Diaconu is that they have each other to spar against for their respective fights against Andrade and Dawson - there couldn't have been that many better sparring partners for each in preparation for these opponents...:D

[Decebal]

so...anyone want to argue about the analysis?:think

Anyone at all?

(maybe people still haven't got a clue about Diaconu)...

...we'll all know more with Henry and, hopefully, Dawson.