View Full Version : If Hanshaw wins, don't get too excited
This guy was taken to a draw by an injured JP Mendy just last year. Mendy was a fringe top 20 SMW, not a bad fighter but hardly close to being elite.
As was reported on the Euro forum, Mendy was injured and pretty much unable to train/run until about 3 weeks before the fight, and most people still thought he beat Hanshaw, in his own backyard.
If Roy loses, Hanshaw will be more marketable after beating a name, but that doesn't mean he will become a good fighter all of a sudden.
Hanshaw beat Pavlik in the olympic trials =o
Although I still hope Roy wins.
IntentionalButt
07-14-2007, 02:59 PM
This guy was taken to a draw by an injured JP Mendy just last year. Mendy was a fringe top 20 SMW, not a bad fighter but hardly close to being elite.
As was reported on the Euro forum, Mendy was injured and pretty much unable to train/run until about 3 weeks before the fight, and most people still thought he beat Hanshaw, in his own backyard.
If Roy loses, Hanshaw will be more marketable after beating a name, but that doesn't mean he will become a good fighter all of a sudden.
a) Mendy looked plenty healthy to me.
b) I had Hanshaw winning that fight.
c) Don't try to discredit Tony just because you don't like Roy. I don't care about Roy at all, but this is a big name win for a talented hardworking kid, especially a not-very-big SMW moving up in weight to take on the former p4p #1. Don't try to diminish it.
a) Mendy looked plenty healthy to me.
b) I had Hanshaw winning that fight.
c) Don't try to discredit Tony just because you don't like Roy. I don't care about Roy at all, but this is a big name win for a talented hardworking kid, especially a not-very-big SMW moving up in weight to take on the former p4p #1. Don't try to diminish it.
:good
hipnusol
07-14-2007, 03:12 PM
I got Roy by a surprisingly impressive KO!
Smazz20
07-14-2007, 03:14 PM
It'd be a real pity to see RJJ win this one. Especially by KO. It would convince him to fight on when he should really retire. He's destroying his body with this crap.
Not a fan of Hanshaw's, but i'd like to see him win this one convincingly.
IntentionalButt
07-14-2007, 03:26 PM
It'd be a real pity to see RJJ win this one. Especially by KO. It would convince him to fight on when he should really retire. He's destroying his body with this crap.
Not a fan of Hanshaw's, but i'd like to see him win this one convincingly.
Why not a fan? He's a slick mover, punches with authority, possesses great ring intelligence. What's to dislike?
Smazz20
07-14-2007, 03:45 PM
Why not a fan? He's a slick mover, punches with authority, possesses great ring intelligence. What's to dislike?
Sorry, I didn't mean to come across as if I actually dislike him. Just haven't seen enough of him, only glimpses here and there. I'td be a good name to have on his resume and all the best to him. It's just sad for RJJ, win or lose. Man should be retired.
a) Mendy looked plenty healthy to me.
b) I had Hanshaw winning that fight.
c) Don't try to discredit Tony just because you don't like Roy. I don't care about Roy at all, but this is a big name win for a talented hardworking kid, especially a not-very-big SMW moving up in weight to take on the former p4p #1. Don't try to diminish it.
Why would I be discrediting him even if I didn't like Roy? :huh
I'm saying if he wins, it changes noithing. He was still held to a draw by an older injured French fighter in his own backyard. He's not close to being world class, period.
If Roy wins I'll give him props for beating a much younger fighter.
And Mendy's injury is common knowledge, you can ask Fitir from the Euro forum on the matter, it was reported 3-4 weeks before his fight with Hanshaw. I believe Mendy even had surgery less than 2 months before the fight.
Hanshaw beat Pavlik in the olympic trials =o
Although I still hope Roy wins.
He was a good amatuer, however he's taken way too many breaks from his career as a pro.
the mean machine
07-14-2007, 04:40 PM
a) Mendy looked plenty healthy to me.
b) I had Hanshaw winning that fight.
c) Don't try to discredit Tony just because you don't like Roy. I don't care about Roy at all, but this is a big name win for a talented hardworking kid, especially a not-very-big SMW moving up in weight to take on the former p4p #1. Don't try to diminish it.
3 out of 3:smoke
CASH_718
07-14-2007, 04:52 PM
This guy was taken to a draw by an injured JP Mendy just last year. Mendy was a fringe top 20 SMW, not a bad fighter but hardly close to being elite.
As was reported on the Euro forum, Mendy was injured and pretty much unable to train/run until about 3 weeks before the fight, and most people still thought he beat Hanshaw, in his own backyard.
If Roy loses, Hanshaw will be more marketable after beating a name, but that doesn't mean he will become a good fighter all of a sudden.No actually Hanshaw was robbed get your facts straight.
And Mendy is a prospect(although an old one) on the rise.
No actually Hanshaw was robbed get your facts straight.
And Mendy is a prospect(although an old one) on the rise.
Robbed in his own backyard, by his own promoter, in his own promoter's tournament? :lol:
Get off the American fighter's nuts for once. :rofl
Roy lays on the ropes for half the fight and Hanshaw does nothing but smack his elbows. Told you guys he didn't have it. :deal
PS props to Roy for beating a younger-up-and-comer. :yep
IntentionalButt
07-15-2007, 02:03 AM
Roy lays on the ropes for half the fight and Hanshaw does nothing but smack his elbows. Told you guys he didn't have it. :deal
PS props to Roy for beating a younger-up-and-comer. :yep
Pretty big disparity on the judges' cards, was it close or wide? And was the fight entertaining enough to hunt down a download of? That one guy's round by round sounded as though it might have been.
Fitir
07-15-2007, 05:52 AM
No actually Hanshaw was robbed get your facts straight.
Mendy had surgery because of a cyst. He wanted the fight to be postponed but it was impossible, the rules of the tournament were clear and the semi finalist Buchanan would have fought Hanshaw instead. Mendy fought. His coach was in France (if you watched the fight you noticed that the guy in his corner was the boxer Fred Klose), he has no promoter (Gaide is not a promoter : he has one boxer under contract and no $$$) and he had no camp : Mendy sparred with 2 light middle of his club "Les Gants Lucéens". OK you have to be ready for a title fight but it's easier if you have a team and a promoter.
The tournament was promoted by Shaw who is Hanshaw's manager... Hanshaw had obtained everything to win : training camp of a world champ with 3 good southpaw as sparring partners (Harmon , Stewart, Cooper), a good match plan by Russell, hype on Showtime. You really think Hanshaw was robbed ? It's a joke.
After his good amateur career (5 times french champ, 2 X bronze medalist at the world championships, bronze medallist at the euro championships, silver medallist at the goodwill games beaten for 1 point by the 2 times olympic champion...) Mendy has been robbed of his pro career cause Acaries chose Sahnoune and Chanet who were more maketable.
Mendy wanted the rematch with Hanshaw. He could fight Oganov.
Mendy had surgery because of a cyst. He wanted the fight to be postponed but it was impossible, the rules of the tournament were clear and the semi finalist Buchanan would have fought Hanshaw instead. Mendy fought. His coach was in France (if you watched the fight you noticed that the guy in his corner was the boxer Fred Klose), he has no promoter (Gaide is not a promoter : he has one boxer under contract and no $$$) and he had no camp : Mendy sparred with 2 light middle of his club "Les Gants Lucéens". OK you have to be ready for a title fight but it's easier if you have a team and a promoter.
The tournament was promoted by Shaw who is Hanshaw's manager... Hanshaw had obtained everything to win : training camp of a world champ with 3 good southpaw as sparring partners (Harmon , Stewart, Cooper), a good match plan by Russell, hype on Showtime. You really think Hanshaw was robbed ? It's a joke.
After his good amateur career (5 times french champ, 2 X bronze medalist at the world championships, bronze medallist at the euro championships, silver medallist at the goodwill games beaten for 1 point by the 2 times olympic champion...) Mendy has been robbed of his pro career cause Acaries chose Sahnoune and Chanet who were more maketable.
Mendy wanted the rematch with Hanshaw. He could fight Oganov.
Quoted for truth. :good
Pretty big disparity on the judges' cards, was it close or wide? And was the fight entertaining enough to hunt down a download of? That one guy's round by round sounded as though it might have been.
It was close actually, only because Roy did nothing for periods of up to two minutes at a time.
I wouldn't DL it unless you're a really big Roy fan. The KD in the eleventh was pretty sweet though, RJJ showed real flashes of his former self for a while there...then it was back to potshotting and laying on the ropes.
IntentionalButt
07-15-2007, 02:35 PM
It was close actually, only because Roy did nothing for periods of up to two minutes at a time.
I wouldn't DL it unless you're a really big Roy fan. The KD in the eleventh was pretty sweet though, RJJ showed real flashes of his former self for a while there...then it was back to potshotting and laying on the ropes.
I'm not a really big Roy fan. Pretty big Hanshaw fan though. Was his performance one to be proud of?
I'm not a really big Roy fan. Pretty big Hanshaw fan though. Was his performance one to be proud of?
He didn't hold back, like most fighters facing RJJ do. He gave it his all. At 175 though, he didn't exactly have much to give...he's still lacking in the experience departmant as well.
IntentionalButt
07-15-2007, 08:17 PM
He didn't hold back, like most fighters facing RJJ do. He gave it his all. At 175 though, he didn't exactly have much to give...he's still lacking in the experience departmant as well.
Cool, thanks. I'll look forward to seeing him in the ring with some good SMWs in the near future.
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