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Vantage_West
07-14-2007, 04:21 PM
my god what on earth did luevano do to cook those brutal body shots so rare from a southpaw did anyone see the cook fight :yikes 5 knockdowns almost all knockdowns by that brutal left hand to the body

why didnt anyone notice him before hand. hope they does well both men

DamonD
07-14-2007, 04:23 PM
That's a shock, although I guess it shouldn't be because Luevano is a world-class talent while Cook was aiming to be one.

unitas
07-14-2007, 05:20 PM
if a british feather goes up against a mexican feather............bet on the mexican.

nulty
07-14-2007, 05:29 PM
Luevano was a cut above. But Cook showed incredible heart getting up, in the end he couldn't do it anymore. Those body shots were sickening I got sore just watching them.

China_hand_Joe
07-14-2007, 06:01 PM
Cook's jab is just embarrassing for someone challenging for a world title.

Dunky McCafferty
07-14-2007, 09:09 PM
I hate to gloat, but for all those Cook fans who said to me for years Cook would have beat Scotty Harrison? That fight brutally exposed Cook for what he is.

& before anyone dares argue with me that Luaveno would have beaten Scotty, I have an argument that will stop you in your tracks right away.

Cook was gloating beforehand how he would be a better champ than Scotty, but he found out its tough at the top where scotty was. welcome to the real world Cookie.

Boro chris
07-14-2007, 09:23 PM
Cook's jab is just embarrassing for someone challenging for a world title.

All the heart in the world but just soooooo slow.
Makes it hard to judge how good Luevano actually is.

AllyT
07-14-2007, 10:07 PM
I hate to gloat, but for all those Cook fans who said to me for years Cook would have beat Scotty Harrison? That fight brutally exposed Cook for what he is.

& before anyone dares argue with me that Luaveno would have beaten Scotty, I have an argument that will stop you in your tracks right away.

Cook was gloating beforehand how he would be a better champ than Scotty, but he found out its tough at the top where scotty was. welcome to the real world Cookie.

Has Harrison fought Cook he would have smashed him. I would love to be wrong but I do not think we will see him back.

victorhugo4222
07-15-2007, 09:55 AM
Has Harrison fought Cook he would have smashed him. I would love to be wrong but I do not think we will see him back.

sadly i dont think we will ever see scotty the only thing im worried about is that we do see him back but for all the wrong reasons. ive heard he has been declerad bankrupt and wouldnt like to see him fight just for the money as i dont think he would be the same fighter without the determination and fire he has.

Max Molyneux
07-15-2007, 10:58 AM
Cook needs to move up In weight, he lacked the workrate to keep the agression going.

LeedsLad
07-15-2007, 11:25 AM
Least he had a go, wasnt quite good enough. But he'll be a very good domestic/european fighter so theres nothing too much to worry about.

StWerburghs
07-15-2007, 02:00 PM
Was impressed with Luevano. Knew next to nothing about him before this fight. But he certainly took cook apart. Good display. Would of been better to of seen Harrison Luevano he if was still around.

Vantage_West
07-15-2007, 02:26 PM
Was impressed with Luevano. Knew next to nothing about him before this fight. But he certainly took cook apart. Good display. Would of been better to of seen Harrison Luevano he if was still around.exactly i hadnt heard nothing i didnt know who he was or what record he had

leuvano actaully took him apart and i dont mean he got a beating he just shut everything down stopped the jab(whic was piss poor already) soptped the hooks used the ring made his southpawness his main advantage and went to the body

i rarely see a southpaw slugger:think hope he does well i think my avatar might have to change

Top Dog
07-15-2007, 03:44 PM
I hate to gloat, but for all those Cook fans who said to me for years Cook would have beat Scotty Harrison? That fight brutally exposed Cook for what he is.

& before anyone dares argue with me that Luaveno would have beaten Scotty, I have an argument that will stop you in your tracks right away.

Cook was gloating beforehand how he would be a better champ than Scotty, but he found out its tough at the top where scotty was. welcome to the real world Cookie.

Awright Dunky! you beat me to it mate, I was just coming on to post similar:thumbsup This was the guy that was going to beat Harrison, aye right away, he wouldnt have lasted 5 rounds:good He was well and truly man raped last night, they should call the cops

achillesthegreat
07-15-2007, 03:48 PM
It was about 5-0 or 4-1 and then Cook put three in the bag. I was about to give him a fourth and he got put down.

He had the game plan all wrong. He was waiting and that should have stopped after the first round. He needed to pin his hands to his cheeks, move his head, get in and bomb to the body.

His work was working spurts but he'd always lose focus. He would shoot the right hand which is great but then he'd overshoot. He'd go to the body, land two, get excited and let leather fly.

No excuses for those uppercuts to the body, they were just horrid shots.

achillesthegreat
07-15-2007, 03:50 PM
I always question if Arthur and Cook can hang in Harrisons world. Harrison is SO MUCH more proven than all these domestic guys who are supposedly in his league.

Neither Cook or Arthur are that talented. They have good technique and skill. For them to overcome their lack of talent they need great technique, great skill and a great mind.

Arthur is in the same situation next week, fingers crossed he can overcome it. Hopefully he can show us some hidden talent like he is stronger or harder hitting than we thought.

David UK
07-15-2007, 05:56 PM
I hate to gloat, but for all those Cook fans who said to me for years Cook would have beat Scotty Harrison? That fight brutally exposed Cook for what he is.

& before anyone dares argue with me that Luaveno would have beaten Scotty, I have an argument that will stop you in your tracks right away.

Cook was gloating beforehand how he would be a better champ than Scotty, but he found out its tough at the top where scotty was. welcome to the real world Cookie.

I never thought Cook was good enough to beat Harrison and I didn't think he'd beat Luaveno either(in fact I won a few quid betting aginst Cook) One look at Cook's record show the best fighter he's beaten is probably Dazzo Williams and to my mind, that's nowhere near sufficient grounding to successfully fight for a world title. Boxing News did a good article on Luaveno recently and he sounded as if he'd be a handful, and he was far to good for Cook

Dunky McCafferty
07-15-2007, 11:29 PM
I never thought Cook was good enough to beat Harrison and I didn't think he'd beat Luaveno either(in fact I won a few quid betting aginst Cook) One look at Cook's record show the best fighter he's beaten is probably Dazzo Williams and to my mind, that's nowhere near sufficient grounding to successfully fight for a world title. Boxing News did a good article on Luaveno recently and he sounded as if he'd be a handful, and he was far to good for Cook

Exactly David my good man, glad you won yourself some cash, although I would have never bet against one of my own:deal diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks I suppose.

As for Luaveno, Im disappointed ESB went down as I had a big conversation about him a while back with the much loved wee mexican fella Freddywak, cos Harrison was rumoured to be fighting him. I have two Luaveno fights, but I decided to keep quiet about his fight with Cook as I seen Luaveno as the american version of Nicky Cook, flashy record but untested. However, when it comes to american prospect vs British prospect, 9 out of 10 times the american prospect will win, due to superior training, sparring etc.

My gloat was just on a personal level as a certain James Wilson couldnt get enough of telling me how Nicky Cook would have spanked Scott Harrison for as long as I can remember.

Im enjoying his silence now, cos thats how I roll:smoke

Mark55
07-16-2007, 09:16 PM
Luaveno reminded me of a certain Carlos Palomino when he took John H Stracey apart with some really destructive body shots.

(For those "young" enough to remember!!!

Dunky McCafferty
07-16-2007, 09:36 PM
Luaveno reminded me of a certain Carlos Palomino when he took John H Stracey apart with some really destructive body shots.

(For those "young" enough to remember!!!

Hey Mark, are you an old timer?;)

Just joking my man, welcome to ESB brit forum:good (although if you are a jock hater I reserve the right to officially withdraw my warm welcome:deal ) end brackets:smoke

chewy 22
07-16-2007, 09:40 PM
MOLITOR destroys both, imo

Mark55
07-17-2007, 07:54 PM
MOLITOR destroys both, imo

Yes agreed, but Carlos is getting on a bit now pal!!!

And yes i am an old boy, but the fittest old boy you'll ever meet!!!

Dunky McCafferty
07-17-2007, 08:57 PM
Yes agreed, but Carlos is getting on a bit now pal!!!

And yes i am an old boy, but the fittest old boy you'll ever meet!!!

So just how old ARE you Mark? Come on, spill the beans:deal

I am 34 years old btw. So dont be shy & tell me your age, & dont worry, cos I wont tell anyone, honest:D

Mark55
07-18-2007, 09:49 AM
No problem pal, 52 years young now, but I train every day and don't feel (or look) anything like it.

I took some good advice some years ago from an old pro regarding personal maintenance and it works.

Your body is like a car, look after it, service it etc. and it'll run for years and years, abuse it and your fucked.

My old fella is 73,in the gym every morning for his workout, doesn't smoke but likes a beer occasionally, had over 100 amateur bouts and you could count his losses on two hands, and is a fit,feisty ol bugger.

I intend to maintain the same work ethic.

Smazz20
07-18-2007, 02:48 PM
So what your all basically saying is, that Harrison would of manhandled Cook and would of beaten Luaveno? I'm a big fan of Harrison's. I hated watching him put a beating on McCulough as I liked him too, but he's a terrific fighter and such a shame things turned out for him like they did.

How far could Harrison of got, had he kept his career (and mind) on track?

dwilson
07-18-2007, 02:51 PM
I can see Arthur taking a beating next week. Hope not.

Dunky McCafferty
07-18-2007, 10:22 PM
No problem pal, 52 years young now, but I train every day and don't feel (or look) anything like it.

I took some good advice some years ago from an old pro regarding personal maintenance and it works.

Your body is like a car, look after it, service it etc. and it'll run for years and years, abuse it and your fucked.

My old fella is 73,in the gym every morning for his workout, doesn't smoke but likes a beer occasionally, had over 100 amateur bouts and you could count his losses on two hands, and is a fit,feisty ol bugger.

I intend to maintain the same work ethic.

Hey, cheers for the honest post Mark, & your fitness advice is good. I should know, cos my fitness is shocking just now cos Im boozing & smoking all the time! Im planning to come off & hit an Atkins diet & fitness programme to get back in shape, but as I hve an addictive personality, its hard to give up the good things in life.

Mark55
07-19-2007, 01:41 AM
Good to hear that Dunky, nothing wrong with enjoying the good things in life, but it's all about moderation, good food, good wine and a good women.....a great recipe, although the smoking is a definite no no.

Use you addictive personality to your advantage, get addicited to a fitness and lifestyle routine, I've visited too many good men in hospital who were old before their time due to alcohol and tobacco abuse, and I've no plans to join them.

All the best pal.