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I called it right on ESB in the amatuer fight when he suffered a delayed stumble. Not to say "I told you so"...but I fucking did.
Limond has a shit KO record too.
brooklyn1550
07-14-2007, 04:48 PM
100 percent correct
Amsterdam
07-14-2007, 04:49 PM
I called it right on ESB in the amatuer fight when he suffered a delayed stumble. Not to say "I told you so"...but I fucking did.
Limond has a shit KO record too.
YOU called it? You haven't seen my anti-Khan train in the Brit forum mate?
We win, good call by the way, glad you snuffed this one out.:good
yesihavearm
07-14-2007, 04:51 PM
haha kahn just knocked down limond, awsome fight
YOU called it? You haven't seen my anti-Khan train in the Brit forum mate?
We win, good call by the way, glad you snuffed this one out.:good
We know our shit, fella :D
Nah, I haven't seen it mate. I don't look at the British forum too much - Dunky posts too often :lol: ;)
EDIT: You can tell by the smilies I'm excited. Great fight.
brooklyn1550
07-14-2007, 04:55 PM
To give the kid credit, he must have a big heart
To give the kid credit, he must have a big heart
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I didn't make this thread 'cause I dislike Khan. I like him a fair bit, but I think he is vastly overrated by some people.
Danny Ocean
07-14-2007, 05:00 PM
can you say exposed ?
brooklyn1550
07-14-2007, 05:02 PM
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I didn't make this thread 'cause I dislike Khan. I like him a fair bit, but I think he is vastly overrated by some people.
He's the next Jason Litzau in my opinion
Smith
07-14-2007, 05:03 PM
Good Technique, world class speed, world class china chin
I knew it, it is only a matter of time before this Glass Jaw joke gets brutally KOed.
SevenSamurai
07-14-2007, 05:08 PM
i cant wait until the fight happens when his china chin is smashed to peices.
If Limond can do that to him with 8 kos in 28 wins, then it wont be long now...
Zakman
07-14-2007, 05:15 PM
Another glass jawed-joke EXPOSED. Tol y'all there was a REASON his handlers were putting him in with light-hitting tomato cans!! :yep
Shpion
07-14-2007, 05:17 PM
Add him to the famous list...
Amsterdam
07-14-2007, 05:20 PM
i cant wait until the fight happens when his china chin is smashed to peices.
If Limond can do that to him with 8 kos in 28 wins, then it wont be long now...
Yep. Thaxton, Earl, Katsidis and Romanov would remove this joke with ease, they'll go right that baby chin now it's exposed for all, not that the intelligence at ESB didn't know this one anyway!:lol:
Mon43
07-14-2007, 05:20 PM
Another glass jawed-joke EXPOSED. Tol y'all there was a REASON his handlers were putting him in with light-hitting tomato cans!! :yep
Maybe also because it was his first 10 fights, his competition was pretty standard fare for any young prospect. Just be patient, when he is ready, he will be exposed, or not.
Amsterdam
07-14-2007, 05:20 PM
Add him to the famous list...
Has to be officially KTFO, not just exposed...
It won't be long though, DAMN this is sweet.
Zakman
07-14-2007, 05:20 PM
All the doubters were saying that the fact that his people INTENTIONALLY put him in with light-hitters meant nothing. All prospects face guys that can't hit, they said.
I don't see 'em saying that shit anymore!! :lol:
Smith
07-14-2007, 05:21 PM
Ktfo
Another glass jawed-joke EXPOSED. Tol y'all there was a REASON his handlers were putting him in with light-hitting tomato cans!! :yep
To me that is the first warning I see about a fighter when his handlers keep putting them in there with feather fisted fighters. They know Khan has a Glass Jaw.
Brighton bomber
07-14-2007, 05:23 PM
I had been in denial but it'snow official, Khan's chin a a glaring weakness. While it did take a few flush punches to drop him he was very badly hurt against a non puncher. Against any decent puncher Khan would have been KO'ed by those punches.
Sonny's jab
07-14-2007, 05:23 PM
All the doubters were saying that the fact that his people INTENTIONALLY put him in with light-hitters meant nothing. All prospects face guys that can't hit, they said.
I don't see 'em saying that shit anymore!! :lol:
Yep.
:good
The matchmaking made me deeply suspicious.
Now the debate is over. Case closed.
Zakman
07-14-2007, 05:24 PM
Maybe also because it was his first 10 fights, his competition was pretty standard fare for any young prospect. Just be patient, when he is ready, he will be exposed, or not.
Ooops, looks lke I spoke too soon!!! :patsch Friend, when a fighter nearly gets laid out by a guy with eight KOs in 28 fights, after he has faced NOTHING but light-hitting tomato cans, it's a pretty good bet he has a glass jaw. :nod
The fat lady may not have sung on this one, but she's sure been warmed up! :yep
Amsterdam
07-14-2007, 05:27 PM
Ooops, looks lke I spoke too soon!!! :patsch Friend, when a fighter nearly gets laid out by a guy with eight KOs in 28 fights, after he has faced NOTHING but light-hitting tomato cans, it's a pretty good bet he has a glass jaw. :nod
The fat lady may not have sung on this one, but she's sure been warmed up! :yep
And I expect no retaliation from the Khan apologists, I don't even expect for them to give me any credit for sticking to my guns on this one for damn near a year a half!
Oh how sweet.:thumbsup
Amsterdam
07-14-2007, 05:28 PM
I had been in denial but it'snow official, Khan's chin a a glaring weakness. While it did take a few flush punches to drop him he was very badly hurt against a non puncher. Against any decent puncher Khan would have been KO'ed by those punches.
Yes, you've argued with me several times. But you were always respectful and objective Brighton.
At least it's exposed.:good
Smith
07-14-2007, 05:28 PM
Limond for rematch :happy
Shpion
07-14-2007, 05:29 PM
Has to be officially KTFO, not just exposed...
It won't be long though, DAMN this is sweet.
Ok, in the meantime he should be added to the less famous quiters list.
Illmatic
07-14-2007, 05:29 PM
why is a fighter a joke for not having a McCall-Chuvalo chin? I have a lot of respect for fighters with obvious deficiencies who can still find ways to win.
Zakman
07-14-2007, 05:30 PM
To me that is the first warning I see about a fighter when his handlers keep putting them in there with feather fisted fighters. They know Khan has a Glass Jaw.
Of course they know. He's probably been laid out cold in the gym MANY times.
I'm like you, when I see matchmaking like that, I KNOW there's a REASON. It's like Taylor - why do people think he started fighting light-hitting guys coming up from lower weights as SOON as Hopkins rocked him.
The handlers want to protect their meal tickets and put off the inevitable as long as possible.
Problem is, when you have an over-hyped fighter with a glass jaw, sooner or later you HAVE to fight somebody. And when that happens, it's usually all over.
See Fraudley for the classic case. Now Khan's pattern is fitting right in. :yep
Smith
07-14-2007, 05:31 PM
why is a fighter a joke for not having a McCall-Chuvalo chin? I have a lot of respect for fighters with obvious deficiencies who can still find ways to win.
:think
:good
brooklyn1550
07-14-2007, 05:33 PM
why is a fighter a joke for not having a McCall-Chuvalo chin? I have a lot of respect for fighters with obvious deficiencies who can still find ways to win.
Right on the money - fighters may have glass jaws, but a lot of times, it doesn't mean they aren't tough. Especially those who come back to win after being on the deck (Corrales, Floyd Patterson, etc)
Malph
07-14-2007, 05:42 PM
why is a fighter a joke for not having a McCall-Chuvalo chin? I have a lot of respect for fighters with obvious deficiencies who can still find ways to win.
Agreed. You gotta respect a guy who finds a way to win despite physical deficiencies.
Fat Tony
07-14-2007, 05:45 PM
What happened?
Khan down? Khan won?
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07-14-2007, 05:51 PM
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StWerburghs
07-14-2007, 06:02 PM
why is a fighter a joke for not having a McCall-Chuvalo chin? I have a lot of respect for fighters with obvious deficiencies who can still find ways to win.
I agree. Some people here seem to get off on the failure of others, its pretty sad. Usualy an indicator that someones got a real shit life.
Its a shame his chin is no good, because he has some good skills, and fast hands, which could of developed well with experience.
TIGEREDGE
07-14-2007, 06:27 PM
He got caught rather awkwardly it has to be said. lots of fighters with good punch resitance have been hurt like amir. look at ali in his early career. de la hoya was wobbled a bit against bredahly AND DROPPED A FEW TIMES. so was leonard against geraldo.
I am not saying that khan is on the same level as these fighters, but i think the jury is out on whther he has a china chin or not., TIME WILL TELL
TIGEREDGE
07-14-2007, 06:29 PM
mY HUNCH IS THAT KHAN HAS GOT A WEAK CHIN BUT ITS STILL TO BE DEBATED. He Did Recover Rather Quickly To Take Charge Of The Bout.
I agree. Some people here seem to get off on the failure of others, its pretty sad. Usualy an indicator that someones got a real shit life.
Come on, mate. Like I said earlier, I like Khan, but pointing out his weaknesses doesn't mean I get my kicks off criticising people. I have no doubt people do, but I certainly don't.
I'd like nothing more than Khan or anyone else I like to be a fucking perfect fighter, but Khan just isn't.
sandwichsurgeon
07-14-2007, 06:34 PM
My grandmothers hips are sturdier than his chin.
Mon43
07-14-2007, 06:37 PM
Ooops, looks lke I spoke too soon!!! :patsch Friend, when a fighter nearly gets laid out by a guy with eight KOs in 28 fights, after he has faced NOTHING but light-hitting tomato cans, it's a pretty good bet he has a glass jaw. :nod
The fat lady may not have sung on this one, but she's sure been warmed up! :yep
I do not expect him to go beyond European level with his defensive weakness, but my point was about judging a fighter on the competiton he has in first 10-15 fights. Virtually everyone dines on tomato cans at that stage
Limond was a significant step up, he did well to win, and at 21 he can improve. He is exciting if nothing else.
Why are so many delighted at his showing tonight? surely the hype has not been that offensive. Take a step back from it and judge him as you would any other fighter, and with that he is nothing more than a decent prospect with a few glaring problems.
paulfv
07-14-2007, 06:38 PM
Cool, looks like we've found our next "A-Farce."
Khan was also put down by a French fighter with 0 ko's in the seventh round a while ago, he wasn't hurt as bad as he was against Limond but it raises serious questions about his chin?
db2431
07-14-2007, 07:18 PM
My grandmothers hips are sturdier than his chin.
Thats true She rides like a cowboy.
joe33
07-14-2007, 07:19 PM
Limond only had 8 KOs out of 28,imagine khan had been hit by a real puncher,he would have never got back up,i reckon only his youth and speed saved him.
Primadonna Kool
07-14-2007, 07:34 PM
Amir Khan has just been asked one question that all fighters will get asked, at some time in their careers. And people can put a negative spin on it, but Amir Khan got up, and continued his fight. I gave 1 round to Limond, Amir Khan totally dominated the fight. He was too fast, to skillfull. He was Hit with a combination of punches, and he tripped over his own feet and it was a totally mess. Amir Khan was hurt, no question about that. But he came through it, he won the fight, he knocked "Limond" out of the fight, Broke his Jaw, and his Nose, really smashed him up. He may not have the punch resistance of Oliver Mccall. But you don't give away Olympic Medals, Amir Khan can box, and he can fight.
Tonight he came to fight, and God dam it Amir Khan won it.
But if you people are going to be bunch of Wankers, there is no hope for any fighter.
Top Dog
07-14-2007, 07:36 PM
Khan was badly hurt, if Limodnd could have jumped on him it would have been over:twisted: :twisted: I've always said Khan was a train wreck waiting to happen, and it was nearly derailed badly. Unlucky Limond, you just never finished him. Limond should have been all over Khan, like a 2 dollar whore.
Check out Amir Khans name on wikipedia, he was put down by a right hand from Drilzane who had 0 ko's. I remember the knockdown being a flash knockdown but that and the fact that his opponents were all light hitters started the whole Khan has a bad chin thing.
LeadLeftHook
07-14-2007, 07:39 PM
Those are excellent photos. Where'd they come from?
That last one is particularly nasty.
Problem is, Khan didn't help himself by being such a wanker in the interview after the fight.
Jim Rosehthal: Was there ever a point where you felt you would lose this fight?
Amir: No, I was alright, I wasn't hurt. People get knocked down, that's boxing, yaknowarrimean?
Cue clip of Khan utterly fucked up and wobbling. He was LUCKY that Limond isn't a big hitter or a good finisher. If he goes up against Kevin Mitchell he will get fucked up. If ****** was going to include him in Little Men tournament with Mitchell and Arthur, he certainly won't now.
Well if he does have a china chin then you would have expected him to be Knocked out by several of the punches that Limond landed thereafter. It was clean punch to the temple and Khan got careless. Actually his defense is whats weak inspite of his good reflex.
LeadLeftHook
07-14-2007, 07:41 PM
Check out Amir Khans name on wikipedia, he was put down by a right hand from Drilzane who had 0 ko's. I remember the knockdown being a flash knockdown but that and the fact that his opponents were all light hitters started the whole Khan has a bad chin thing.
Actually have you seen that fight, his legs were tangled in between the ropes. It wasnt even a knock down.
man who is ****** going to dig up next. WANTEd: 25-1 fighter with zero KOs.
I like Khan he seems like a nice kid. A real anti-Hamed. but hes obv a brutal KO waiting to happen. too bad really. oh well hes made more already than 99% of boxers ever will in a lifetime.
paulfv
07-14-2007, 07:42 PM
It's too bad, the kid has some skills. He coulda been a contenda but for the 5th-rate chin. Punchers are going to be dying to fight him and make a name off of him.
Zakman
07-14-2007, 07:43 PM
Check out Amir Khans name on wikipedia, he was put down by a right hand from Drilzane who had 0 ko's. I remember the knockdown being a flash knockdown but that and the fact that his opponents were all light hitters started the whole Khan has a bad chin thing.
Some of these people STILL can't seem to put 2 and 2 together on this. I suspect even when he gets LAID OUT COLD by the first decent fighter he faces who can punch, these guys will trot out the usual BS, like "that punch woulda knocked anybody out..." :patsch
Khan legs did get tangled, but he was knocked seriously off balance by someone with 0 ko's, that should never happen. Limond further exposed his chin but in a more definitive way.
LeadLeftHook
07-14-2007, 07:46 PM
Khan legs did get tangled, but he was knocked seriously off balance by someone with 0 ko's, that should never happen. Limond further exposed his chin but in a more definitive way.
No cuz that punch didnt even land, watch the ight again.
Some of these people STILL can't seem to put 2 and 2 together on this. I suspect even when he gets LAID OUT COLD by the first decent fighter he faces who can punch, some of these people will trot out the usual BS, like "that punch woulda knocked anybody out..." :patsch
lol. yeah i like that one to
Some of these people STILL can't seem to put 2 and 2 together on this. I suspect even when he gets LAID OUT COLD by the first decent fighter he faces who can punch, these guys will trot out the usual BS, like "that punch woulda knocked anybody out..." :patsch
so true, people on this forum use that saying WAY too much. Khan has a Glass Jaw just as you and I and others tried to tell these people.
saintsmike
07-14-2007, 07:49 PM
The way I see it Khan hasn't got a great chin. But.. it's NOT as bad as people are making out. Limond is usually happy to just box his way to UD's and has underrated power. If anyone actually saw the fight, Limond had done his homework on Khan, and counter punched Khan when he came rushing in. If someone WALKS into a punch it's more likely to have more of an effect.
Khan got caught flush by 4-5 good punches before finally being put down by a sledgehammer (or basically a downwards kinda punch still legit), when he was tripping over his own feet, if Khan had shown more composure it wouldn't have happened, he stuck his chin in the air, after being wobbled, his own fault. But Limond landed some good clean punches on Khan throughout the fight.. only that one really had an effect. He was up straight away.. (and still visibly buzzed) but managed to get through, and took some more flush shots, well i might add. But hold on, no-one has actually mentioned that.
The thing that i'm more concerned in, is the fact people WANT him to be KO'd. Okay he doesn't have a good chin, but, he's a good fighter, he's only 20, and he came through a big test tonight. He came back & stopped Limond, infact anihalating his face into a bloody mess. He showed guts & heart. I can't wait to see him fight again, and to be fair, Khan learnt alot more from this fight, than any other fight. And in his 13th fight to be fighting a 28-1 fighter, who is a fantastic pro. And coming through to win, is a mean feat. You saw Khan tested tonight, although he got buzzed he still won.
I think people should be slagging off Sprott and Skelton rather than Amir. Amir & Limond both deserve props, it was a fantastic fight.
Boro chris
07-14-2007, 07:51 PM
Some of these people STILL can't seem to put 2 and 2 together on this. I suspect even when he gets LAID OUT COLD by the first decent fighter he faces who can punch, these guys will trot out the usual BS, like "that punch woulda knocked anybody out..." :patsch
Definately china-chinned, but I see as a real shame as he's a good kid with excellent skills,speed,heart a and bit more of a dig than I'd previously expected. I cant understand why people on this board seem to take pleasure in his weakness. Surely its better for boxing as a whole if a skilled and exciting fighter like Kahn has a good enough chin too compete at world level?
Metal Man
07-14-2007, 07:58 PM
i agree with the consensus here.The kid lacks that cutting edge which is needed to propel him into world class.The lightweight division now and historically is one of the most competitive in boxing.Khan was an outstanding teenage amateur who's silver at the Olympics cant be understated but that achievement carries no weight when he enters into the ring with the top Mexicans and central americans,guys who were beating up grown men at the ages of 15 and bona fide seasoned veterens by 21.
Snorkel
07-14-2007, 07:58 PM
I think you lot are being a bit harsh on him. He got dropped but so what? It happens to the best of them. You're all acting like he lost when in fact he got up and turned the fight around in the very next round. Surely that's something to be praised?
I fully expect him to lose some fights because his chin isn't granite but he can still be succesful as he's got the talent in other departments to compensate. I'm not Khan's biggest fan or anything but I think you're going overboard in criticising a young guy like this just for getting knocked down on his way to a stoppage victory.
Dantes
07-14-2007, 08:04 PM
Props to Khan- I think he is overhyped, however, he DID comeback and he DID win (via a breakage of Limon's nose and possibly his jaw). The kid did real well :good
Decebal
07-14-2007, 08:08 PM
The way I see it Khan hasn't got a great chin. But.. it's NOT as bad as people are making out. Limond is usually happy to just box his way to UD's and has underrated power. If anyone actually saw the fight, Limond had done his homework on Khan, and counter punched Khan when he came rushing in. If someone WALKS into a punch it's more likely to have more of an effect.
Khan got caught flush by 4-5 good punches before finally being put down by a sledgehammer (or basically a downwards kinda punch still legit), when he was tripping over his own feet, if Khan had shown more composure it wouldn't have happened, he stuck his chin in the air, after being wobbled, his own fault. But Limond landed some good clean punches on Khan throughout the fight.. only that one really had an effect. He was up straight away.. (and still visibly buzzed) but managed to get through, and took some more flush shots, well i might add. But hold on, no-one has actually mentioned that.
The thing that i'm more concerned in, is the fact people WANT him to be KO'd. Okay he doesn't have a good chin, but, he's a good fighter, he's only 20, and he came through a big test tonight. He came back & stopped Limond, infact anihalating his face into a bloody mess. He showed guts & heart. I can't wait to see him fight again, and to be fair, Khan learnt alot more from this fight, than any other fight. And in his 13th fight to be fighting a 28-1 fighter, who is a fantastic pro. And coming through to win, is a mean feat. You saw Khan tested tonight, although he got buzzed he still won.
I think people should be slagging off Sprott and Skelton rather than Amir. Amir & Limond both deserve props, it was a fantastic fight.
It was a fantastic fight! Well done to both. Khan showed heart and courage and a winner's mentality. Yes!
But the reason why people want him to get KO'd is because they feel that he is overhyped and arrogant and disrespectful. He says stuff like: "I am better than all domestic competition and will be the youngest British World Champion ever." What is more, he says stuff like "I have a good chin, as I have proved tonight (against Limond)". Before the fight, he said how predictable Limond would be and how he would have "0 chance". After the fight he said he never felt he was in trouble!...
It is for comments like these that people want him brought down a peg or five.
p.S. in Britain, you have to be really flashy and be able to back it all up in order to get away with being arrogant.
El Bombasto
07-14-2007, 08:10 PM
I called it right on ESB in the amatuer fight when he suffered a delayed stumble. Not to say "I told you so"...but I fucking did.
Limond has a shit KO record too.
Uh, you know, he did win that fight...by TKO
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Looks like it was a bloody fight from those pics.
Uh, you know, he did win that fight...by TKO
I posted this thread when Khan was still down.
And i think people need to read what we "haters" are saying. It's not that Khan was knocked down. Shit, any good boxer can be knocked down or even out. It's a bunch of things combined.
He suffered a delayed stumble in the amatuers. The sign of a glass chin, no?
His team have put him in with some of the lightest hitting competition at his weight. They may be good fighters, but he is better. They know the only way he can be beaten at this stage, is by a boxer with a punch.
He got hurt against these weak hitters in the pros. Remember when he was up against the ropes and to hit with an arm punch early in his career? His legs buckled!
Limond, who is a very weak puncher and has 4 of those KO's at 130, had Khan on queer street.
This isn't some stupid witch hunt. Khan has a weak chin. Fact.
But the reason why people want him to get KO'd is because they feel that he is overhyped and arrogant and disrespectful. He says stuff like: "I am better than all domestic competition and will be the youngest British World Champion ever." What is more, he says stuff like "I have a good chin, as I have proved tonight (against Limond)". Before the fight, he said how predictable Limond would be and how he would have "0 chance". After the fight he said he never felt he was in trouble!...
It is for comments like these that people want him brought down a peg or five.
Since he said he'd beat Mayweather, who'd KO him with a jab, I've wanted him to lose. I still like him, but want him to get KOed to humble him.
El Bombasto
07-14-2007, 08:22 PM
I posted this thread when Khan was still down.
And i think people need to read what we "haters" are saying. It's not that Khan was knocked down. Shit, any good boxer can be knocked down or even out. It's a bunch of things combined.
He suffered a delayed stumble in the amatuers. The sign of a glass chin, no?
His team have put him in with some of the lightest hitting competition at his weight. They may be good fighters, but he is better. They know the only way he can be beaten at this stage, is by a boxer with a punch.
He got hurt against these weak hitters in the pros. Remember when he was up against the ropes and to hit with an arm punch early in his career? His legs buckled!
Limond, who is a very weak puncher and has 4 of those KO's at 130, had Khan on queer street.
This isn't some stupid witch hunt. Khan has a weak chin. Fact.
I do agree with you (some what), that Khan is very overrated. But, I'm still withholding judgement on the glass jaw issue. However, Khan has great size for 135, and if he's able to stay there for a year or two, he should pick-up a couple of straps.
Decebal
07-14-2007, 08:25 PM
Since he said he'd beat Mayweather, who'd KO him with a jab, I've wanted him to lose. I still like him, but want him to get KOed to humble him.
I like him too. I just don't understand why he started acting and mouthing off like an ass...He ain't Naz. He never will be. He should just be himself. Maybe it's because he's young. But maybe the hype got to him and he starts believing it himself. That is stupid and dangerous. And arrogance really doesn't suit him. Let's hope he changes back to what he used to be QUICK! Otherwise people will turn against him. This often happens in Britain with the big stars.
Props to Khan- I think he is overhyped, however, he DID comeback and he DID win (via a breakage of Limon's nose and possibly his jaw). The kid did real well :good
Thank you for a good post Khan is overhyped but is also talented this fight could be the making of him if he realises his faults and works on his talents.
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07-14-2007, 08:26 PM
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That last shot is a classic boxing pic!!
paulfv
07-14-2007, 08:28 PM
The toughest thing is that you can't teach a guy how to have a chin. If he doesn't have it, he doesn't have it. You can protect a guy's weak chin (like Manny Steward protected Lennox Lewis' glass jaw), but you can't make it any stronger.
Khan is going to have to be careful in matchmaking, IMO.
ThePlugInBabies
07-14-2007, 08:34 PM
It was a fantastic fight! Well done to both. Khan showed heart and courage and a winner's mentality. Yes!
But the reason why people want him to get KO'd is because they feel that he is overhyped and arrogant and disrespectful. He says stuff like: "I am better than all domestic competition and will be the youngest British World Champion ever." What is more, he says stuff like "I have a good chin, as I have proved tonight (against Limond)". Before the fight, he said how predictable Limond would be and how he would have "0 chance". After the fight he said he never felt he was in trouble!...
It is for comments like these that people want him brought down a peg or five.
p.S. in Britain, you have to be really flashy and be able to back it all up in order to get away with being arrogant.
what do you expect him to say when he's asked these questions then?
yeah i totally agree, i've got a shit chin, right up there with herbie hide, i might as well quit now, see ya folks. :patsch
ThePlugInBabies
07-14-2007, 08:35 PM
The toughest thing is that you can't teach a guy how to have a chin. If he doesn't have it, he doesn't have it. You can protect a guy's weak chin (like Manny Steward protected Lennox Lewis' glass jaw), but you can't make it any stronger.
Khan is going to have to be careful in matchmaking, IMO.
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Zakman
07-14-2007, 08:36 PM
I posted this thread when Khan was still down.
And i think people need to read what we "haters" are saying. It's not that Khan was knocked down. Shit, any good boxer can be knocked down or even out. It's a bunch of things combined.
He suffered a delayed stumble in the amatuers. The sign of a glass chin, no?
His team have put him in with some of the lightest hitting competition at his weight. They may be good fighters, but he is better. They know the only way he can be beaten at this stage, is by a boxer with a punch.
He got hurt against these weak hitters in the pros. Remember when he was up against the ropes and to hit with an arm punch early in his career? His legs buckled!
Limond, who is a very weak puncher and has 4 of those KO's at 130, had Khan on queer street.
This isn't some stupid witch hunt. Khan has a weak chin. Fact.
You have laid out the case perfectly sir!:good Too bad some of these "that punch woulda put anybody on the canvas, even though he's a light-hitter" types STILL don't seem to get it. Like I said, they'll be makin' the same ol' excuses that everybody makes for these china-chinned wonderboys when he gets laid out cold by the first decent puncher he faces.:patsch
Decebal
07-14-2007, 08:39 PM
what do you expect him to say when he's asked these questions then?
yeah i totally agree, i've got a shit chin, right up there with herbie hide, i might as well quit now, see ya folks. :patsch
I expect him not to lie so blatantly! He doesn't have to talk about his chin at all. He could just avoid the topic altogether. I know he's not a politician, but he's not stupid either. But he INSISTS on making certain comments that are completely uncalled for, not to mention unwarranted, when nobody is really pushing him to do so. Why? You tell me, if you don't agree with my analysis...
ThePlugInBabies
07-14-2007, 08:41 PM
I expect him not to lie so blatantly! He doesn't have to talk about his chin at all. He could just avoid the topic altogether. I know he's not a politician, but he's not stupid either. But he INSISTS on making certain comments that are completely uncalled for, not to mention unwarranted, when nobody is really pushing him to do so. Why? You tell me, if you don't agree with my analysis...
there's no denying his questionable chin but he was asked direct questions about it and i would be suprised if he did turn round and admit he had his own concerns in public, it just doesn't happen.
Danny Ocean
07-14-2007, 08:41 PM
funny how khan was calling limond, ''a great great fighter''
he didnt say that before the fight though
face it he got dropped by a light punching super-feather whos only stopped 8guys
even when his matchmakers step him up carefully he still gets dropped
Decebal
07-14-2007, 08:45 PM
i would be suprised if he did turn round and admit he had his own concerns in public, it just doesn't happen.
Come on, mate! You're being facetious!
ThePlugInBabies
07-14-2007, 08:47 PM
Come on, mate! You're being facetious!
so what did you expect him to say? just after he'd got off the canvas to break the guys jaw and nose, stop him and win the fight just after things looked dreadful for him. i'm not denying he has dodgy whiskers, just that i don't expect the guy to come out afterwards and admit it, especially when he's on such a high, winning the biggest fight of his career.
khan is a disgrace and so fucking overrated by u british wankers, just accept your golden boy, is a china chinned monkey..
Be quiet you racist fuck.
ThePlugInBabies
07-14-2007, 08:51 PM
khan is a disgrace and so fucking overrated by u british wankers, just accept your golden boy, is a china chinned monkey..
:roll:
yeah nice work there mate, can't wait for the 4th of november, we'll never hear from you lot again after calzaghe leaves your only boy worth talking about a bloody, beaten mess :happy
Zakman
07-14-2007, 08:53 PM
Be quiet you racist fuck.
That remark struck me as a little out of line myself. Yeah, Khan's got a glass jaw, yeah he's gonna get starched by the first decent puncher he faces - but that "monkey" remark is just UNCALLED for under any circumstances.
ThePlugInBabies
07-14-2007, 08:55 PM
you sure sound like a guy, blinded by the sight of joes balls..:yep
oh buuuutt buuttt mikkelss jab, have you seen mikkels jaaaabbbbb?!?!?
oh noessss!!!!!!111111 poor joes!!!!111111
ThePlugInBabies
07-14-2007, 09:04 PM
im drunk an wasted, but i just love the british logics..
khan has a glass jaw, so joe will punish mikkel:hey
just like your girl is inflatable, so is your brain:hey
go to bed son, and take a bucket with you, we don't want mummy clearing up your vomit on the bed sheets in the middle of the night.
are you a monkey, or am being harsh a that race too:yep
funny being called a racist, eventhough im what is considered a mix..
go fuck your inflatable doll monkeyboy:hey
I'm white and English.
I guess me having a problem with you calling an Asian a monkey means I'm a "monkey" too? Nothing to do with morals at all, eh?
Fuck off, cunt.
Ahaha.. I just watched the fight after downloading it and when Khan showed his glass chin once again all I could think about is Amsterdam laughing his ass off.
Zakman
07-14-2007, 09:10 PM
Ahaha.. I just watched the fight after downloading it and when Khan showed his glass chin once again all I could think about is Amsterdam laughing his ass off.
I bet he felt just like I did when Sprott KOd Fraudley. It's fun when you're out front early and then proven right. :yep
SO TOUCHY, SO TOUCHY..
GO BEND IT LIKE BECKHAM:hey
...Eh?
If you going to insult me, at least let it make sense.
Pathetic.
Zakman
07-14-2007, 09:14 PM
WHO HAVE I INSULTED..:yep
BESIDES KHANS PATHETIC JAW:good
Well, now there's a point we can all agree on I think - Khan has a GRADE A china chin, and it was EXPOSED today. :yep
Carlos Primera
07-14-2007, 10:06 PM
i knew it was just a matter of time before his chin got tested. esb chincheckers must have creamed themselves at the sight of khan dropping! did'nt see the fight, but i read that he was seriously in trouble of getting stopped, so how's khans recovery?? cotto/holyfield like?? he might still be able to accomplish something if his recovery's good.
The Kurgan
07-14-2007, 11:26 PM
Another glass jawed-joke EXPOSED. Tol y'all there was a REASON his handlers were putting him in with light-hitting tomato cans!! :yep
Unfortunately for Khan, those hand-picked feather-fisted give 'ems are a bit too taxing for him at this stage. :patsch
TomaTos
07-15-2007, 12:58 AM
You guys should respect every fighter. This guys is only 20 year old and he is fighting tough opposition already. He will get a lot better and be very hard to hit clean in a couple of years. He was hit hard tonight and came back like a champion in a FOYT candidate :deal !
Stop with the hating, you guys are jealous, it is always hard to rate the chin of somebody, look at Judah, stagger from a Baldomir jab and then receive massive amount of punch from Cotto without going down until late.
It's like people saying Cotto have no chin, Cotto does have a good chin, he was NEVER down from a punch, he was hurt yes from different fighter, but never went down as he seem to get hurt by 1 punch but manage to take well the further shot.
All that to say we will have to wait more before judging Amir Khan. It is bizarre with you ESB, in every fight somebody must be exposed, what the point of thinking that :deal ?
paulfv
07-15-2007, 03:12 AM
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Well that's new, a Brit sticking up for Lenny...*yawn*
Look, Len had two 1-punch KO loses. After that Manny Stewart taught him how to clinch like he loved the guy he was fighting. It preserved his china chin, and allowed him to continue to fight.
The guy could break his jaw from a stiff wind. I'm sorry if you can't accept that for your former "He claims everything from being Canadian to being Jamaican but we Brits need someone to root for so we'll claim him" champ, but those be the facts. Everybody shook Lewis, from Bruno to Mercer to Briggs to Rahman to McCall to...
As the saying goes in your country, his chin is 'dodgy;' the guy can't take a punch and never could. It's damn fortunate for him that Steward rescured his glass-jaw-possessing, RJJ's-bigger-brother-with-the-same-chin-momma-havin' behind. If not, he would have been just another big guy who couldn't take a shot.
Snorkel
07-15-2007, 06:41 AM
i knew it was just a matter of time before his chin got tested. esb chincheckers must have creamed themselves at the sight of khan dropping! did'nt see the fight, but i read that he was seriously in trouble of getting stopped, so how's khans recovery?? cotto/holyfield like?? he might still be able to accomplish something if his recovery's good.
He was undoubtedly hurt and seemed a little unsteady for the next 30 secs before regaining his composure and getting his jab going again. The following round he dominated and dropped Limond, breaking his jaw in the process. All in all, it was a good recovery and he definitely showed some heart but he's not fighting high enough level guys yet to say his recovery is in the class of those two IMO. Still, you couldn't have asked him to respond any better.
1 punch ko
07-15-2007, 07:26 AM
Khan can still have a good career he need's to learn how to box denfisive and protect his chin.
That will get him a long way if he does not make them improvements he is going to get ko'ed by anyone with a half decent punch. But he is young and still learning the trade so their is still hope for him
ChampionsForever
07-15-2007, 07:31 AM
Another glass jawed-joke EXPOSED. Tol y'all there was a REASON his handlers were putting him in with light-hitting tomato cans!! :yep
Why is he a joke :huh
Maza1987
07-15-2007, 07:35 AM
glass jaw>> NO
Broken Jaw >> YES.
haha, take that haters
Zakman
07-15-2007, 07:39 AM
Why is he a joke :huh
Because he was WAY over-hyped - the next great thing. But now that his china-chin has been exposed, fans won't take him as seriously any more.
I love it when one of these hype jobs gets exposed. Particularly if it's a glass jaw that causes it, too!:yep
ThePlugInBabies
07-15-2007, 07:44 AM
Because he was WAY over-hyped - the next great thing. But now that his china-chin has been exposed, fans won't take him as seriously any more.
I love it when one of these hype jobs gets exposed. Particularly if it's a glass jaw that causes it, too!:yep
maybe some hardcore fans won't be interested anymore and will look to jump on him at any moment, but his popularity in the uk is probably even bigger now. they saw a 20 year old kid get off the canvas, show great heart and break his opponents jaw and stop him fairly brutally.
sandwichsurgeon
07-15-2007, 07:51 AM
This KD was almost as embarassing as when N'dou got KD by Malignaggi:lol:
Doppleganger
07-15-2007, 07:55 AM
maybe some hardcore fans won't be interested anymore and will look to jump on him at any moment, but his popularity in the uk is probably even bigger now. they saw a 20 year old kid get off the canvas, show great heart and break his opponents jaw and stop him fairly brutally.
Yup, he's even more popular now with the average fight fan that he was before. They like guys that show guts and are involved in exciting fights which is what Khan displayed last night. He's got a HUGE question mark about his jaw but this cash cow's still alive and kicking.
ChampionsForever
07-15-2007, 08:07 AM
Because he was WAY over-hyped - the next great thing. But now that his china-chin has been exposed, fans won't take him as seriously any more.
I love it when one of these hype jobs gets exposed. Particularly if it's a glass jaw that causes it, too!:yep
so because other people overhyped him and he got decked to come off the canvus and win it makes the olympic silver medalist and undefeated 20 year old a joke??:huh maybe this fight proved he doesnt have a good chin but I think your being a bit strong with your judgement, just because you dont like him doesnt make him a joke.
Sheehan
07-15-2007, 08:22 AM
Come on, mate. Like I said earlier, I like Khan, but pointing out his weaknesses doesn't mean I get my kicks off criticising people. I have no doubt people do, but I certainly don't.
I'd like nothing more than Khan or anyone else I like to be a fucking perfect fighter, but Khan just isn't.
your not calling him a china chinned joke, alot of ppl here are though and its just pathetic, I dont like the guy that much but for his 13th fight against someone far more experienced, he did great and deserves credit, he got hurt badly and he showed heart, some ppl have a poor defenition of a "joke".
Zakman
07-15-2007, 08:34 AM
so because other people overhyped him and he got decked to come off the canvus and win it makes the olympic silver medalist and undefeated 20 year old a joke??:huh maybe this fight proved he doesnt have a good chin but I think your being a bit strong with your judgement, just because you dont like him doesnt make him a joke.
Maybe "joke" is a strong word - that should be reserved for those who get utterly TKFO by light-hitters, like Fraudley did. :yep But as A-Farce showed everybody, winning in the medals in the amatuers means next to nothing in the pros. I've been seeing how these Olympic fighters get overhyped for 30 years. Some, like Sugar Ray Leonard, turn out to be ATGS, others like Leon Spinks - well you get the idea.
Boxing fans should be careful hopping on bandwagons before a figther has proved ANYTHING in the pros. Particularly when a fighter's handlers appears to be carefully selecting tomato cans for their lack of punching power, and then the first halfway decent fighter he faces - also carefully selected because he had a low KO percentage - puts him on the deck.
Those are the classic signs that the handlers KNOW the guy's got a glass jaw. Doesn't make him a "joke" maybe - yet - but it sure does make his future very questionable! :nod
blistering
07-15-2007, 08:46 AM
Maybe "joke" is a strong word - that should be reserved for those who get utterly TKFO by light-hitters, like Fraudley did. :yep But as A-Farce showed everybody, winning in the medals in the amatuers means next to nothing in the pros. I've been seeing how these Olympic fighters get overhyped for 30 years. Some, like Sugar Ray Leonard, turn out to be ATGS, others like Leon Spinks - well you get the idea.
Boxing fans should be careful hopping on bandwagons before a figther has proved ANYTHING in the pros. Particularly when a fighter's handlers appears to be carefully selecting tomato cans for their lack of punching power, and then the first halfway decent fighter he faces - also carefully selected because he had a low KO percentage - puts him on the deck.
Those are the classic signs that the handlers KNOW the guy's got a glass jaw. Doesn't make him a "joke" maybe - yet - but it sure does make his future very questionable! :nod
No wonder you rate Holyfield above Lewis and all the other boxers of the 90s and early 00s - because you place far higher importance on chin than all other skillsets and strengths of a boxer combined.
Khan showed great heart and has won the commonwealth title in his 13th pro fight against a far more experienced opponent with only one loss on record before facing Khan.
That's pretty good, give the kid some credit.
He certainly has not been "exposed".
stake501
07-15-2007, 09:14 AM
who rates holyfield above lewis ????
i cant believe that
dwilson
07-15-2007, 09:18 AM
Does anyone on here like or even respect khan at all?
I find him a nobhead out of the ring. Please ****** put him in with Katsidis.
i cannot look up boxrec because i have spyware as soon as i put in that site, but ODLH got dropped and wobbled by a light hitting italian early on in his career, also dropped and wobbled by another patsy early on.
as he matured both his defense and chin improved , no reason why khan`s cannot.
i saw barry mguigan lose/jim watt lose, in fact 20 years ago there was hardly a uk fighter who had not been decked or lost , somnetimes a few times before they got there title shot.
times have changed and one mistake and you are a bum.
saintsmike
07-15-2007, 09:43 AM
I think Khans stock has raised from the KD, personally i don't think he'll be that great. But sometime down the line he will be world champ. Don't know when but he will be. He's quite careless, and i think he's bravado, he sticks his chin out in the air, his own fault.
Like I said Limond has underrated power, and only lost against a world class operator in Alex Arthur, who beat him by TKO (The same Arthur who got starched by Michael Gomez) yet people aren't saying he's china chinned.. . The simple fact is, Khan hasn't got a great chin, but it's not as bad as people are making out, it's a weakness, but he has skills to work around it. I'd personally like to see him fight a few decent hitters.. so he HAS to improve his defence. He's passed one test, lets see if he can continue and pass a few more.
I think John Murray would be a good fight for him, or maybe Gary Reid, I think Khan beats Mitchell as well. Mitchell is a joke to be fair, lets see how he fares against anyone decent.
dwilson
07-15-2007, 09:47 AM
I think Khans stock has raised from the KD, personally i don't think he'll be that great. But sometime down the line he will be world champ. Don't know when but he will be. He's quite careless, and i think he's bravado, he sticks his chin out in the air, his own fault.
Like I said Limond has underrated power, and only lost against a world class operator in Alex Arthur, who beat him by TKO (The same Arthur who got starched by Michael Gomez) yet people aren't saying he's china chinned.. . The simple fact is, Khan hasn't got a great chin, but it's not as bad as people are making out, it's a weakness, but he has skills to work around it. I'd personally like to see him fight a few decent hitters.. so he HAS to improve his defence. He's passed one test, lets see if he can continue and pass a few more.
I think John Murray would be a good fight for him, or maybe Gary Reid, I think Khan beats Mitchell as well. Mitchell is a joke to be fair, lets see how he fares against anyone decent.
I've said before about Gary Reid against him, it would be very short. One would get ko and although Khan is superior in every department to Reid his ego would lt him stick his chin out and it would get destroyed.
Zakman
07-15-2007, 09:50 AM
who rates holyfield above lewis ????
i cant believe that
Classic example of overrating Lewis and underrating Holyfield. Evander was never taken out in the early rounds by second-rate fighters like McCall and Rahman when he held the title. In fact, NONE of the other greats was.
warrior85
07-15-2007, 09:51 AM
the first time he gets hit by a decent puncher i think we'll see the chicken dance mk2,limond couldnt crack an egg&he had khan all over,expect khans next 5 fights to be against blown up featherweights.
Stewbear
07-15-2007, 09:54 AM
Classic example of overrating Lewis and underrating Holyfield. Evander was never taken out in the early rounds by second-rate fighters like McCall and Rahman when he held the title. In fact, NONE of the other greats was.
And Lewis beat Holyfield twice...
sandwichsurgeon
07-15-2007, 09:54 AM
Classic example of overrating Lewis and underrating Holyfield. Evander was never taken out in the early rounds by second-rate fighters like McCall and Rahman when he held the title. In fact, NONE of the other greats was.
Evander got his ass handed to him by a blown up MW.
Snorkel
07-15-2007, 10:48 AM
Classic example of overrating Lewis and underrating Holyfield. Evander was never taken out in the early rounds by second-rate fighters like McCall and Rahman when he held the title. In fact, NONE of the other greats was.
Classic example of overrating the significance of getting knocked out twice by a fellow HW and underrating the significance of being beaten over the course of 12 rounds on more than two ocassions.
Orishaman
07-15-2007, 11:05 AM
Can yhou post the video of the KO...
lewishamboy
07-15-2007, 11:43 AM
Firstly, it seems a lot of people on this forum like nothing better than to see a hyped fighter get knocked the hell out....what happened to the appreciation of skill, speed and heart?? :roll: That's what boxing is about, not waiting for someone to get butchered like a pack of bloodthirsty wolves... :huh
Too many people can't wait to dismiss Khan as a world title belt contender...even if he has a weakness in his chin, he still has tremendous skills and speed and, as we saw last night, the heart to get knocked down and come back even stronger and more dangerous...
Furthermore it's worth mentioning that, with 9KO's in 12, Khan obviously has the power to trouble any fighter out there.....
I still think he is a world title contender for sure....certainly no 'joke' as some forum members have tried to claim :blood
NoHomeJerome
09-30-2010, 01:36 AM
Some of these people STILL can't seem to put 2 and 2 together on this. I suspect even when he gets LAID OUT COLD by the first decent fighter he faces who can punch, these guys will trot out the usual BS, like "that punch woulda knocked anybody out..." :patsch
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
:yep:yep:yep:yep
:good
EXACTLY what happened!
Zakman
09-30-2010, 10:51 AM
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
:yep:yep:yep:yep
:good
EXACTLY what happened!
No kidding!! And look, all the usual suspects, all the clowns who question the importance of punch resistance and attack the Chincheckers, were saying the SAME things they say now, even though the were PROVEN wrong!!!
I guess you can't teach these old dogs new tricks. Clear evidence of glass jaws mean nothing to them!:patsch
bleed_oil
09-30-2010, 12:21 PM
:lol::lol:
:yep:yep
:good
EXACTLY what happened!
:lol::lol::lol:
Dont tell us what you think HATER!!
:lol:
God you are pathetic. Do you jerk off while posting the same utter trash?
How many times do we have to know your opinion of Khans chin?
Outboxer
09-30-2010, 12:39 PM
I hope that these 'chincheckers' are simply trolls, for their own sake. Being obsessed with a fighter's chin is more than a bit sad. Personally, I don't find this chin business particularly interesting -- most people agree that you cannot change a weak chin, and that there is no certain formula to develop an iron one. If this is indeed true, and people can never really change their punch resistance...then how on earth can it be used to attack someone? It's just a physical facet of their being, something you're born with and have to live with. How is this the fault of the fighter in question? I don't really understand the point of it all.
It's far more worthwhile to attack people for things that are under their control -- a fighter's heart, for example. (Even then, simply stepping into the ring requires heart, so most fighters are automatically courageous.) Khan's weak chin has, ironically, given him the chance to show us that he actually has a lot of guts and heart in him, as some people picked up on in the opening few posts of the thread. Even as far back as the Limond fight he was scraping himself off the deck and rather than running away, he came back with guns blazing and put the other guy out of action. He has a warrior's mentality, regardless of his chin. Personally, I find that far more important than a physical part of himself that cannot be changed. I was never a big fan of Khan, but this chin rubbish has made me support him more and more -- it irritates me to see people putting others down because of such a silly element. If you're going to attack a fighter (someone getting their head caved in for a living) at least attack them on something with a bit more value and substance to it.
dodmoor
09-30-2010, 12:41 PM
I hope that these 'chincheckers' are simply trolls, for their own sake. Being obsessed with a fighter's chin is more than a bit sad. Personally, I don't find this chin business particularly interesting -- most people agree that you cannot change a weak chin, and that there is no certain formula to develop an iron one. If this is indeed true, and people can never really change their punch resistance...then how on earth can it be used to attack someone? It's just a physical facet of their being, something you're born with and have to live with. How is this the fault of the fighter in question? I don't really understand the point of it all.
It's far more worthwhile to attack people for things that are under their control -- a fighter's heart, for example. (Even then, simply stepping into the ring requires heart, so most fighters are automatically courageous.) Khan's weak chin has, ironically, given him the chance to show us that he actually has a lot of guts and heart in him, as some people picked up on in the opening few posts of the thread. Even as far back as the Limond fight he was scraping himself off the deck and rather than running away, he came back with guns blazing and put the other guy out of action. He has a warrior's mentality, regardless of his chin. Personally, I find that far more important than a physical part of himself that cannot be changed. I was never a big fan of Khan, but this chin rubbish has made me support him more and more -- it irritates me to see people putting others down because of such a silly element. If you're going to attack a fighter (someone getting their head caved in for a living) at least attack them on something with a bit more value and substance to it.
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Bad Dog
09-30-2010, 12:41 PM
Yes he does.
NoHomeJerome
09-30-2010, 01:22 PM
No kidding!! And look, all the usual suspects, all the clowns who question the importance of punch resistance and attack the Chincheckers, were saying the SAME things they say now, even though the were PROVEN wrong!!!
I guess you can't teach these old dogs new tricks. Clear evidence of glass jaws mean nothing to them!:patsch
:yep:yep:yep:yep
That was Chinchecking at its finest Zak.
You called Khan getting knocked out vs the first puncher he faced, and you even called the EXCUSES his nuthuggers would say when it happened.
Fine work sir.
:happy:happy:happy:happy
ChampionsForever
09-30-2010, 03:09 PM
Yeah what a joke, I mean he's a 23 year old world champion and a millionaire to boot, fuck id hate to be him, I bet Khan envies Zakman right now.
By the way im no Khan defender, hes chin is shocking and im 50/50 whether he will beat Maidana and im putting money on him to lose, but all you so called "chin checkers" are by far the biggest douchebags on these forums with Zakman being the biggest dumbass ive had the mis-fortune of coming across on the web.
Zakman
10-01-2010, 12:30 AM
:yep:yep:yep:yep
That was Chinchecking at its finest Zak.
You called Khan getting knocked out vs the first puncher he faced, and you even called the EXCUSES his nuthuggers would say when it happened.
Fine work sir.
:happy:happy:happy:happy
Hell yeah. Thanks for bringing this one back. One of the things the fanboys and glass jaw deniers hate about the Chicheckers is that we often expose their faves. They cannot stand it when their heroes' flaws are pointed out, so they turn to attacking us personally. No matter - I will continue to expose the truth of the china chin, whereever I see it!
Exactabox
10-01-2010, 12:33 AM
I had a vision of Amir Khan's father in tears when he gets knocked out in 2011.
It ended with Jim Lampley saying something about a frozen silence. I am pretty good with my predicitons and root for Khan he is a terrific boxer. Hope that does not happen.
Darni187
10-01-2010, 02:33 AM
I hope that these 'chincheckers' are simply trolls, for their own sake. Being obsessed with a fighter's chin is more than a bit sad. Personally, I don't find this chin business particularly interesting -- most people agree that you cannot change a weak chin, and that there is no certain formula to develop an iron one. If this is indeed true, and people can never really change their punch resistance...then how on earth can it be used to attack someone? It's just a physical facet of their being, something you're born with and have to live with. How is this the fault of the fighter in question? I don't really understand the point of it all.
It's far more worthwhile to attack people for things that are under their control -- a fighter's heart, for example. (Even then, simply stepping into the ring requires heart, so most fighters are automatically courageous.) Khan's weak chin has, ironically, given him the chance to show us that he actually has a lot of guts and heart in him, as some people picked up on in the opening few posts of the thread. Even as far back as the Limond fight he was scraping himself off the deck and rather than running away, he came back with guns blazing and put the other guy out of action. He has a warrior's mentality, regardless of his chin. Personally, I find that far more important than a physical part of himself that cannot be changed. I was never a big fan of Khan, but this chin rubbish has made me support him more and more -- it irritates me to see people putting others down because of such a silly element. If you're going to attack a fighter (someone getting their head caved in for a living) at least attack them on something with a bit more value and substance to it.
:good Great post
Zakman
10-01-2010, 02:31 PM
I was never a big fan of Khan, but this chin rubbish has made me support him more and more -- it irritates me to see people putting others down because of such a silly element. If you're going to attack a fighter (someone getting their head caved in for a living) at least attack them on something with a bit more value and substance to it.
Ah, another one who doesn't recognize the importance of punch resistance in the sport of boxing, and denies the obvious reality that glass jaws exist in boxing.
Let you fellow glass jaw deniers and Khan nuthuggers keep trying to convince yourselves that your hero is George Chuvalo. Me, I'm just gonna laugh like hell when he gets laid out cold again - which WILL happen. Count on it.:yep
bleed_oil
10-01-2010, 03:06 PM
Ah, another one who doesn't recognize the importance of punch resistance in the sport of boxing, and denies the obvious reality that glass jaws exist in boxing.
Let you fellow glass jaw deniers and Khan nuthuggers keep trying to convince yourselves that your hero is George Chuvalo. Me, I'm just gonna laugh like hell when he gets laid out cold again - which WILL happen. Count on it.:yep
You lame brained retard. Do you understand what he's saying? OF COURSE THERE ARE BOXERS with poor punch resistance or bad chins. Everyone knows that.
The point is that for a guy to step into the ring with a poor chin takes a tonne of heart, courage and determination. In fact fighting with a poor chin deserves even more respect than a guy with a great chin.
Of course a partially retarded retard like yourself would never understand that with your near sexual obsession with glass chins.
Zakman
10-01-2010, 03:11 PM
You lame brained retard. Do you understand what he's saying? OF COURSE THERE ARE BOXERS with poor punch resistance or bad chins. Everyone knows that.
The point is that for a guy to step into the ring with a poor chin takes a tonne of heart, courage and determination. In fact fighting with a poor chin deserves even more respect than a guy with a great chin.
I don't necessarily argue with that, of course it takes courage to step in the ring if you know you can't take a punch well.
What I don't get is what is wrong with pointing out if a fighter has a glass jaw, if it's something that "everyone" knows?
And if "everyone" knows it, why do all these fanboys come out of the woodwork saying unprovable garbage like "that punch woulda KOd anybody?" :huh
See, I would have any argument with anyone if "everyone" actually did seem to know that glass jaws exist in boxing. But they don't - as these threads demonstrate. Even in the face of clear evidence of a china chin, the fanboys still try to deny and make excuses.
bleed_oil
10-01-2010, 03:18 PM
I don't necessarily argue with that, of course it takes courage to step in the ring if you know you can't take a punch well.
What I don't get is what is wrong with pointing out if a fighter has a glass jaw, if it's something that "everyone" knows?
And if "everyone" knows it, why do all these fanboys come out of the woodwork saying unprovable garbage like "that punch woulda KOd anybody?" :huh
See, I would have any argument with anyone if "everyone" actually did seem to know that glass jaws exist in boxing. But they don't - as these threads demonstrate. Even in the face of clear evidence of a china chin, the fanboys still try to deny and make excuses.
Why would someone question the existance of poor punch resistance. Its bloody obvious. Some guys are stronger, some slower, some have better defence, some are better at spacing... naturally there are those who can take a punch better. And its all mainly genetics. Look at Mustafa Hamsho (I would assume since you are all about glass jaws you would know who he is) dude has one of histories best chins P4P... he took all the punishment he did and he's fine todays doesnt slur a word talks ok...
Compare that with a Meldrick Taylor, you can barely understand a word he says...
Point aside - so what if some fighters have glass chins. Roy Jones Jr is 10 times the fighter that iron chinned fighers like Chuvalo or Mustafa Hamsho ever were.
Rico Spadafora
10-01-2010, 03:44 PM
Khan is a complete disgrace. A Glass Jawed fraud. Maidana had to go to the WBA to force Khan to even fight. :lol::rofl:patsch
bdman
10-01-2010, 03:56 PM
Khan is a complete disgrace. A Glass Jawed fraud. Maidana had to go to the WBA to force Khan to even fight. :lol::rofl:patsch
motherfucker shut the fuck up and go suck ur mum with ur glass jaw trolling shit. Your pussy stinks u fucking cunt. I am sick to the back teeth of ur fucking jaw posts u fucking maniac! Go get a blowjob off your sister instead posting total and utter fucking bollocks! :hi:
sdsfinest22
10-01-2010, 04:01 PM
i called it right on esb in the amatuer fight when he suffered a delayed stumble. Not to say "i told you so"...but i fucking did.
Limond has a shit ko record too.
damn....this guy got it right way before it happened....he'll get that chin broke by marcos..if bredis fukin prescott can do it than i dont see khan being able to take it...
LukeO
10-01-2010, 04:18 PM
Saying Amir Khan has a glass chin is an insult to glass chins.
Outboxer
10-01-2010, 05:59 PM
Ah, another one who doesn't recognize the importance of punch resistance in the sport of boxing, and denies the obvious reality that glass jaws exist in boxing.
Let you fellow glass jaw deniers and Khan nuthuggers keep trying to convince yourselves that your hero is George Chuvalo. Me, I'm just gonna laugh like hell when he gets laid out cold again - which WILL happen. Count on it.:yep
Hm? I clearly stated this specific phrase in my post: 'Khan's weak chin'. Did you miss that, or did you just ignore it? Either way, if you read the full post, you can see that I did indeed acknowledge that Khan has bad punch resistance. I've actually written, time and time again, that Khan has a weak chin. I've been following his career since the Olympics, like quite a few Brits, so I'm very well acquainted with his poor punch resistance. Your reply completely missed the point of my post.
46and0
10-01-2010, 06:18 PM
Superb cutting-edge Nostrodamus-esque Chinchecking from thread-starter Jack and my fellow Chincheckers such as Zakman and a gentleman I believe to be Rico in another guise (A-50). :happy:happy:happy
When will you nuthugging disgraces realise that Glass Jaws exist in boxing? It's irrefutable.
clyde
10-01-2010, 06:22 PM
Glass chin or no glass chin he'll be jabbing Maidana into next week when they meet. Maidana will not be able to land.
NoHomeJerome
10-01-2010, 09:51 PM
Superb cutting-edge Nostrodamus-esque Chinchecking from thread-starter Jack and my fellow Chincheckers such as Zakman and a gentleman I believe to be Rico in another guise (A-50). :happy:happy:happy
When will you nuthugging disgraces realise that Glass Jaws exist in boxing? It's irrefutable.
Terrifically rounded up 46. These nuthuggers just cannot accept that their heroes have fragile Glass Jaws. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
:smoke
Lance_Uppercut
10-01-2010, 10:03 PM
If he had a glass chin, he'd have been KO'd much more. While it's not good at all, is it Glass? Jury is still out.
spud1
10-01-2010, 10:07 PM
Superb cutting-edge Nostrodamus-esque Chinchecking from thread-starter Jack and my fellow Chincheckers such as Zakman and a gentleman I believe to be Rico in another guise (A-50). :happy:happy:happy
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When will you nuthugging disgraces realise that Glass Jaws exist in boxing? It's irrefutable.
Give it up numero uno minion, the game is over
Terrifically rounded up 46. These nuthuggers just cannot accept that their heroes have fragile Glass Jaws. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
:smoke
Do you need alliances that bad.
If he had a glass chin, he'd have been KO'd much more. While it's not good at all, is it Glass? Jury is still out.
When you manage to gt footage from the hills billy goats gruff you wikl fijd out about his chin, check out drilzane liond gomez and oh erm whats his name:huh oh prescott
Lance_Uppercut
10-01-2010, 10:12 PM
When you manage to gt footage from the hills billy goats gruff you wikl fijd out about his chin, check out drilzane liond gomez and oh erm whats his name:huh oh prescott
:patsch DO you speak English bitch? Ignorance isn't a medal you wear proudly kid...
Zakman
10-01-2010, 10:46 PM
If he had a glass chin, he'd have been KO'd much more. While it's not good at all, is it Glass? Jury is still out.
How many times does Khan have to get wobbled by jabs for you people to realize he's got a glass jaw? How many times does he have to get decked by hand picked light-hitters? How many times does he need to get KOd.
If it cracks like glass you know, maybe, just maybe, it IS glass!:lol::nut:patsch
TrollWarlord
10-01-2010, 11:25 PM
Glass Chin EXIST!!!:deal:deal
ex. Amir King Glass Khan:!:
Farmboxer
10-02-2010, 02:41 AM
Khan does not have a glass chin, if he did you could see right through it!
LaidOut
10-02-2010, 03:34 AM
This much is certain: Khan will do well against Maidana so long as he keeps him at distance with the jab. But Maidana will land on Khan eventually, and I'm convinced that Khan's chin will not hold up.
FORMIDABLE
10-02-2010, 03:43 AM
It will be funny if he goes on the rest of his career without ever getting dropped or seriously hurt again. He is big at 140, he was obviously killing himself to cut down to 135. That may have played a big role in his knockout loss, like it did Manny when he had his first losses. Khan may have been wobbled by a jab, but remember Pac was dropped by a jab from light hitting skinny hussein. I'm giving Khan the benefit of the doubt until I see how he reacts to power shots at 140 and above.
DoubleM
10-02-2010, 04:12 AM
people make Maidana out like he's some wild brawler like Mayorga. Maidana actually has good footwork and has power in both hands. he's not some one punch pony. Are Khan nuthuggers so naive to think Khan is not going to get popped? You really think he's some defensive wizard now? LMAO.
46and0
10-02-2010, 04:12 AM
Give it up numero uno minion, the game is over
Do you need alliances that bad.
When you manage to gt footage from the hills billy goats gruff you wikl fijd out about his chin, check out drilzane liond gomez and oh erm whats his name:huh oh prescott
:lol::rofl:patsch Listen crud1, learn to write coherent sentences or stay out of threads which feature the ESB Elite. Otherwise you will be pwned like the Glass Jawed n00b clown that you are, in front of a global audience of millions.:deal
The only minion in this thread is you. crud1 vCash total = 383. What a disgraceful vCash amount. :dead:dead:dead
Caliboxing
10-02-2010, 04:20 AM
Khan will repair his "glass jaw" reputation by disposing of "glass jaw" Maidana.
Zakman
10-02-2010, 10:45 AM
Khan will repair his "glass jaw" reputation by disposing of "glass jaw" Maidana.
Not in a million years. Even IF Khan is somehow able to keep his glass jaw from getting shattered this time - which I highly doubt - it WILL get shattered again, count on it. That's some serious china he's packing there.
PH|LLA
10-02-2010, 10:50 AM
Not in a million years. Even IF Khan is somehow able to keep his glass jaw from getting shattered this time - which I highly doubt - it WILL get shattered again, count on it. That's some serious china he's packing there.
if he can keep beating top opposition, who cares if down the road his chin will be shattered. He can still achieve greatness.
sdsfinest22
10-02-2010, 12:20 PM
Marcos gonna crack that chin! Khan gettin that glass chin broke again!!
Zakman
10-02-2010, 01:00 PM
Marcos gonna crack that chin! Khan gettin that glass chin broke again!!
Hell yeah, that china's getting cracked. There will be shards all over that ring after Khan gets laid out cold again! Can't wait!!!:thumbsup
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