Calzaghe-Hopkins = Hamed-Barrera

[Sebastien]

I predict the same kind of outcome. The awkward, "loosy goosy" fighter gets exposed by the Great.

Hopkins TKO 9

[saul_ir34]

I think most people would agree that Hamed was just a one hit wonder.
I think Calzaghe is alot better than Hamed was.
Should be a close fight though with Calzaghe edging out the win

[ThePlugInBabies]

worst.comparison.ever.

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[PowerPuncher]

I think most people would agree that Hamed was just a one hit wonder.
I think Calzaghe is alot better than Hamed was.
Should be a close fight though with Calzaghe edging out the win

Hamed won all 4 major belts at featherweight fighting 10 world champions,go away and learn about something before commenting next time.

[Sinew]

Owch

[Decebal]

I predict the same kind of outcome. The awkward, "loosy goosy" fighter gets exposed by the Great.

Hopkins TKO 9

:patsch

[WhataRock]

Hamed a one hit wonder? Pfft.

[TFFP]

Awful comparison.

[ad82]

Hamed was a great fighter but Joe is completely different. Joe has great fundamentals and a great boxing brain to fall back on. Hamed had gotten so far away from boxing basics that he couldn't find a plan B once he was being outboxed.

[ThePlugInBabies]

Search my post history and you'll see I've made this exact comparison numerous times...the UK 'great' up against a legit great on a world level never ends up well for UK fight fans :D :yep

wow.

on one hand you had a man who's ego had overtaken him, had sacked his mentor and trainer brendan ingle who made him what he was and who didn't think he needed to train as seriously as he once did. he had fallen in love with his power and thought he could take anyone out with one shot, no questions asked.

he was up against a prime MAB with a point to prove.

calzaghe on the other hand has wanted hopkins for years and years, even more so after old man rivers pussy antics in 2002. he's desparate for his american debut and you can guarantee he will be training his bollocks off for this one, he has a point to prove stateside. calzaghe is a multi dimensional fighter who throws endless streams of punches.

....and he's going in against an old man way past his best.

[Holmes' Jab]

This thread need to be binned. Shocking comparison tbh.

[mike464]

Against a prime Hopkins I'd agree but the thing that makes Calzaghe a slight favourite is Hopkins's advanced age. I still wouldn't put it past him to put on a Barrera-Naz style poerformance

[Decebal]

Against a prime Hopkins I'd agree but the thing that makes Calzaghe a slight favourite is Hopkins's advanced age. I still wouldn't put it past him to put on a Barrera-Naz style poerformance

:-( :verysad :-( :verysad :-(

[Holmes' Jab]

By the way I do tend to believe that Hamed was a fine fighter at his weight. Bags of ability, chilling level of power and a very awkward unorthodox style. What proved to be his shortcoming and downfall was his contempt for opponents, lack of dedication and application at times and a tendancy to clown around far too often. His ego was the size of Everest and he got exposed because of it (I always think Barerra would beat him, though).


Calzaghe seems to always trains very accordingly for every fight and takes nothing for granted, just does his job in the ring very professionally and emphatically.

[Decebal]

By the way I do tend to believe that Hamed was a fine fighter at his weight. Bags of ability, chilling level of power and a very awkward unorthodox style. What proved to be his shortcoming and downfall was his contempt for opponents, lack of dedication and application at times and a tendancy to overly clown around too often. His ego was the size of Everest and he got exposed because of it.

Calzaghe always trains very accordingly for every fight and takes nothing for granted, just does the job very professionally.

Yeah...if Hamed had trained properly for Barrera, realising exactly what he was up against and how the Mexican would fight the fight, he would have won.

[ThePlugInBabies]

Yeah...if Hamed had trained properly for Barrera, realising exactly what he was up against and how the Mexican would fight the fight, he would have won.

can't see it tbh. barrera's style that night was all wrong for naz.

JMM and MAB both school naz 99 times out of 100.

naz knocks pacman the fuck out.

morales is a tough one to call.

[Decebal]

can't see it tbh. barrera's style that night was all wrong for naz.

JMM and MAB both school naz 99 times out of 100.

naz knocks pacman the fuck out.

morales is a tough one to call.

I agree that MAB's style was all wrong, but that had a lot to do with the way Naz decided to fight the fight...no?

[Sebastien]

Hamed was a great fighter but Joe is completely different. Joe has great fundamentals and a great boxing brain to fall back on. Hamed had gotten so far away from boxing basics that he couldn't find a plan B once he was being outboxed.

Great fundamentals???? He backs up straight with his hands at his waist, throws looping punches, rushes in with his head down, jumps in his punches, etc. etc...

[Sebastien]

Like Hamed, Calzaghe makes tons of mistakes but never fought an opponent good enough to capitalize on them. Like Hamed, Calzaghe will be exposed by the great fighter.

Bernard will dominate.

[ThePlugInBabies]

I agree that MAB's style was all wrong, but that had a lot to do with the way Naz decided to fight the fight...no?

maybe to a certain extent. but MAB fought a clever, tricky, counter punches game, that style is the prince's kryptonite.

[PowerPuncher]

Like Hamed, Calzaghe makes tons of mistakes but never fought an opponent good enough to capitalize on them. Like Hamed, Calzaghe will be exposed by the great fighter.

Bernard will dominate.

Bernard isn't a great fighter anymore hes an old man looking for 1 last payday. Nard is too old to take advantage of Calazages mistakes (which he does make) Nards getting whooped

[Holmes' Jab]

Yeah...if Hamed had trained properly for Barrera, realising exactly what he was up against and how the Mexican would fight the fight, he would have won.


See edited post. Although Naz was good I'd always favour somebody of Barrera's style and calibre over him. I though so at the time too. :good

[Decebal]

maybe to a certain extent. but MAB fought a clever, tricky, counter punches game, that style is the prince's kryptonite.

yeah, sure...it was always going to be an uphill battle, but let's face it: he wasn't physically fit, he wasn't mentally fit, he wasn't emotionally fit, he had no strategy to deal with Barrera's style, the ref let Barrera get away with a lot of absolutely ridiculous stuff - a DQ would not have been out of place at all - so...when you put all these little failings together, it's easy to see why Barrera thrashed him.

Maybe Hamed would never have beaten him, but I think it could have been much closer if everything had been done by the book.

[Decebal]

See edited post. Although Naz was good I'd always favour somebody of Barrera's style and calibre over him. I though so at the time too. :good

Yeah...maybe you two are right...:good

[Haye]

I predict the same kind of outcome. The awkward, "loosy goosy" fighter gets exposed by the Great.

Hopkins TKO 9

Such an educated and well-reasoned analysis.

Calzaghe is better than Hopkins. Hopkins is the dirty and awkward fighter. Prime for prime I would pick Calzaghe all the way.

[brown_bomber]

Like Hamed, Calzaghe makes tons of mistakes but never fought an opponent good enough to capitalize on them. Like Hamed, Calzaghe will be exposed by the great fighter.

Bernard will dominate.


:good after watching hopkins fight taylor both times you defently got the impression he was made me finished but after watching him beat both TARVER and WRIGHT i can't see him losing to calzaghe but calzaghe will defently give him a good fight though no doubt about that

[Tettsuo]

...calzaghe on the other hand has wanted hopkins for years and years, even more so after old man rivers pussy antics in 2002...
I guess he didn't want him bad enough, cause he didn't try to go to middleweight and compete. :roll:

BTW, calling out a fighter in another (lower) weight division can be seen as a pussy move as well.

[Samurai]

I think most people would agree that Hamed was just a one hit wonder.
I think Calzaghe is alot better than Hamed was.
Should be a close fight though with Calzaghe edging out the win

Most idiots would agree that Hamed was just a one hit wonder.

[ThePlugInBabies]

I guess he didn't want him bad enough, cause he didn't try to go to middleweight and compete. :roll:

BTW, calling out a fighter in another (lower) weight division can be seen as a pussy move as well.

i take it you're unaware of the story then back in 2002, hopkins accepting a fight with calzaghe along with head of boxing at showtime jay larkin, don king hopkins then promoter) and frank ******, only for hopkins to double his demands to an unrealistic price at the last second.

oh, and if calling a boxer from a lower division out makes you a pussy, then i guess bernard hopkins is a pussy. after all, it was he who called out calzaghe in his post fight interview following his win over winky. ;)

[ad82]

Great fundamentals???? He backs up straight with his hands at his waist, throws looping punches, rushes in with his head down, jumps in his punches, etc. etc...
He has fantasitic fundamentals. How often have you seen him get tagged while he has his hands down? Bugger all is the answer. He only does it when he's so much in cotrol that he can.

He throws looping punches sometimes as he can lean all the way to his right doing that and avoid a counter. I take it you've never boxed youself after those comments!

Calzaghe can box any way he wants and fight any way he wants. He can do it all. I hope you have the balls to admit afterwards that you got it way wrong :)

[Dorfmeister]

I don't remember if the Prince was that bothered with MAB's presence but he had a great fight with Kevin Kelley in MSG before - Calzaghe was clearly bothered with the presence of Hopkins in the Hatton-Mayweather weigh-in and in the London presser. Calzaghe may be awkward, but he is technically sound and doesn't rely so much on the one shot. I feel these are very different situations and fighters but there is one common denominator - Hopkins ( like MAB) has the experience and the craftiness to make Joe look extremelly awkward at the eye of the judges.

[larryx]

hopkins is like fine wine measured in time he's getting better with age,please dnt be suprised if calzaghe gets laid out/p.s he's not fundamental he's quick thats it.his defense sucks he is not accurate he throws 100 plus a round and lands 18 slaps hopkins is a defensive master calzaghe is in for the shock of his life and all of you even thinkingcalzaghe can knock out hopkins need to leave the drugs alone!!!!