chuck liddel vs kimbo slice

[right_hook_roye]

I read an article in yahoo sports about liddel dissing and making insults on kimbo slice. If ever the 2 got to fight who do you think gets it

[codeman99998]

Wow... umm...

Possibly Chuck Liddel by total domination? Yes, that is what I think.

[chimba]

this buffoon will be dismantled if this ever takes place

[J_Roth]

I know so many people were on Chuck's nuts for years but I was never a fan. The guy has heavy hands but odd tech. Kimbo is a huge man. If he connected it would be lights out.

[codeman99998]

I know so many people were on Chuck's nuts for years but I was never a fan. The guy has heavy hands but odd tech. Kimbo is a huge man. If he connected it would be lights out.

Umm...

Chuck Lidell beat Tito Ortiz twice. Chuck Lidell beat Randy Couture twice. Chuck Lidell beat Babalu twice and most recently he beat Wanderlei Silva.

Kimbo slice has beaten a 50 year old pro boxer who had no business in the cage and Tank Abbott.

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[right_hook_roye]

Id have to say that kimbo still does have a chance to win his mere size and power advantage could make the difference. Liddell is more of a striker so kimbo doesnt need to worry bout fighting on the ground. If it stays standing up then all he needs is one clean punch

[jimmie]

Liddell and brutally.

[errsta]

I think Kimbo fares better than most give him credit for. Liddell has won too many fights on "shut my eyes and throw a hail mary" punches. If he gets caught first and/or if Kimbo can take his shot, Kimbo has a hell of a chance.

[Beebs]

Be serious, Chuck all day.

[the beaver]

Are people serious???

Kimbo will be lucky to last 2 minutes.

I'm tipping a Babalu head kick

[Marc]

Call me crazy but in a pure standup match I would take Kimbo. He has the better chin, power, and striking basics. Having said that, Chuck rarely goes for the takedown, and from all the times I've seen him shoot for it, he was shit.

I would really have to see Kimbo throw and defend from a headkick though.

Throw Kimbo in with a wrestler or a submission artist and he'd get destroyed flatout within a round.

[right_hook_roye]

Call me crazy but in a pure standup match I would take Kimbo. He has the better chin, power, and striking basics. Having said that, Chuck rarely goes for the takedown, and from all the times I've seen him shoot for it, he was shit.

I would really have to see Kimbo throw and defend from a headkick though.

Throw Kimbo in with a wrestler or a submission artist and he'd get destroyed flatout within a round.

i agree :good

[Beebs]

The better chin? Because you've seen him punched by afro puff?

Chuck not having good takedowns? He took Silva down in his last fight much easier than Arona did in either of their two fights, or anybody else trying to take down Silva really.

[codeman99998]

The better chin? Because you've seen him punched by afro puff?

Chuck not having good takedowns? He took Silva down in his last fight much easier than Arona did in either of their two fights, or anybody else trying to take down Silva really.

These are good points Beebs.

Still, I can not give away the premise that Kimbo is a better standup fighter than Chuck Lidell. Sure, Chuck may be able to take him down, but his record of very very REAL KO power against very very tough opposition stands in stark contrast to Kimbo's KOs of nobodies. Chuck can probably counter Kimbo all day and all night and either knock him out or win a dominant decision (in fairness, we don't know how well Kimbo can take a punch.)

Power is a funny thing, because it can only be accurately rated based on competition. In boxing for instance, Paul Williams had pretty good KO power, until he stepped up in class and everyone found out it was only mediocre. Sam Peter had AMAZING KO power until he stepped up in class and everyone found out he had a hard time KOing anybody.

Just because Kimbo destroys street punks, just because he destroys a terrible miserable Bo Cantrell and a way way past it was never that good in the first place anyways Tank Abbott does NOT mean he has the power or skills to pose a serious challenge to a very very good opponent in Chuck Lidell.

To call Chuck Lidell a step-up in competition is an insult to Chuck Lidell. Chuck Lidell is 3 floors up in competition, Kimbo has to take the elevator to get to Chuck Lidell.

I'm not a huge Chuck Lidell fan, but it is absolutely 100% clear to me that Chuck Lidell has nearly every single advantage in this fight. Don't buy into EliteXCs bullshit hypejob of Kimbo.

[Marc]

The better chin? Because you've seen him punched by afro puff?



Yes, cuz that's how a ***** eat.



Chuck not having good takedowns? He took Silva down in his last fight much easier than Arona did in either of their two fights, or anybody else trying to take down Silva really.

The only reasons Chuck was able to take Silva down was because 1) Silva was gassed and 2) He wasn't expecting it.

[theunderdog]

kimbo will always have a punchers chance against woever, specially against chuck because he won't shoot at all. chuck would most probably win with leg kicks. he just has to be very careful not to get hit

[Dantes]

Chuck is elite, and has beaten elite- it's ridiculous to put the two together at the moment. Kimbo is UNPROVEN. Right now, Chuck fucks up Kimbo and sends him back to street fighting bums.

[J_Roth]

Umm...

Chuck Lidell beat Tito Ortiz twice. Chuck Lidell beat Randy Couture twice. Chuck Lidell beat Babalu twice and most recently he beat Wanderlei Silva.

Kimbo slice has beaten a 50 year old pro boxer who had no business in the cage and Tank Abbott.

...Understand what I'm saying please. I take nothing from Chuck. He is a future Hof'er and was the face of MMA for years. I'm just not sure he is still on top and I don't rate Kimbo anywhere near him in terms of what he has done. The guy is a huge man with pretty good strikes. Size difference and the fact that Kimbo has some skill make this closer than some want to admit.

[rydersonthestorm]

To be fair chuck has a better chin than kimbo and superior strking skills, kimbo has been rocked by bums in alot of his later street fights he was getting rocked.

[iksrtfo]

Depends. Kimbo has amazing composure when trading punches. He can stand and bang while slipping punches better than many MMA artists.
I can see him slipping Chucks wide punches and backing Chuck up. Possibly countering Chuck. Picture what Rampage did on the second fight with Chuck but with more pressure. That's a long shot though.

Most likely chuck will destroy him because he is light years ahead of Kimbo in the game.

[sugarngold]

Bas Rutten is turning Kimbo into a mixed martial artist. Although Kimbo is still green, at this point in their respective careers, his size and power may be too much for Chuck Liddell to handle. Watching Chuck drop like a rock against Rampage makes it hard to imagine him handling a larger, stronger puncher like Kimbo.

[J_Roth]

Bas Rutten is turning Kimbo into a mixed martial artist. Although Kimbo is still green, at this point in their respective careers, his size and power may be too much for Chuck Liddell to handle. Watching Chuck drop like a rock against Rampage makes it hard to imagine him handling a larger, stronger puncher like Kimbo.Exactly. If Bas is his trainer then you have to give him some additional consideration. Bas will probably make the most out of anything he has.

[Ubersteve]

The better chin? Because you've seen him punched by afro puff?

Chuck not having good takedowns? He took Silva down in his last fight much easier than Arona did in either of their two fights, or anybody else trying to take down Silva really.

Yeah, as someone else said, I would find it odd that he would have trained heavily in takedown defence to prepare for Chuck, for Arona he probably trained non stop in it.



And Chuck obviously fucks Kimbo up something rotten at the moment, in a few years, who knows?

Kimbo should fight Houston Alexander if he wants a fight against someone he can just swing away at and see who falls first, anyway.

[Iron_jeramia]

chuck might wanna take this one to the ground

[RUSKULL]

I think Kimbo fares better than most give him credit for. Liddell has won too many fights on "shut my eyes and throw a hail mary" punches. If he gets caught first and/or if Kimbo can take his shot, Kimbo has a hell of a chance.

Obviously you haven't seen much of Liddell to make such a statement. Chuck usually counters very well, especially against a crude slugger like Kimbo. Liddell also has HW type power in both hands & great grappling, although he rarely needs it for anything more than stuffing takedown attempts.

[scurlaruntings]

Obviously you haven't seen much of Liddell to make such a statement. Chuck usually counters very well, especially against a crude slugger like Kimbo. Liddell also has HW type power in both hands & great grappling, although he rarely needs it for anything more than stuffing takedown attempts.Il keep it real iv been very critical of Kimbo in regards to his credentials but the facts remain in a sport like MMA whereby the striking isnt a fraction as polished as in Boxing Kimbo would fare well. His very compact throws tight hooks with good power in either hand and has decent head movement. From a pure striking stand point with fists i actually think his techinically superior to Liddell. Obviously Liddells resume and experience arent even comparable and he would be the overwhelming favoruite but purely from a striking perspective i think Kimbo has a decent shout.

[J_Roth]

Il keep it real iv been very critical of Kimbo in regards to his credentials but the facts remain in a sport like MMA whereby the striking isnt a fraction as polished as in Boxing Kimbo would fare well. His very compact throws tight hooks with good power in either hand and has decent head movement. From a pure striking stand point with fists i actually think his techinically superior to Liddell. Obviously Liddells resume and experience arent even comparable and he would be the overwhelming favoruite but purely from a striking perspective i think Kimbo has a decent shout.Thank you Scur. This exactly what I was getting at.

[RUSKULL]

Il keep it real iv been very critical of Kimbo in regards to his credentials but the facts remain in a sport like MMA whereby the striking isnt a fraction as polished as in Boxing Kimbo would fare well. His very compact throws tight hooks with good power in either hand and has decent head movement. From a pure striking stand point with fists i actually think his techinically superior to Liddell. Obviously Liddells resume and experience arent even comparable and he would be the overwhelming favoruite but purely from a striking perspective i think Kimbo has a decent shout.

Okay, maybe referring to Kimbo as a crude slugger was a bit extreme, he does have a nice left hook & plenty of power.

[BewareofDawg]

Chuck Liddell by KO in under a minute.

[coog]

People Boxing and MMA are two different sports You cannot box(double up on jabs and hooks in MMA you cannot plant your feet very long or your on your back, Boxing helps to learn angles and to turn your opponent A right cross and a right round house Kick is a great combination in MMA. Also you can use boxing footwork to close the gap for a takedown, but if you get stuck on throwing a lot of combos you are going down.

[errsta]

Il keep it real iv been very critical of Kimbo in regards to his credentials but the facts remain in a sport like MMA whereby the striking isnt a fraction as polished as in Boxing Kimbo would fare well. His very compact throws tight hooks with good power in either hand and has decent head movement. From a pure striking stand point with fists i actually think his techinically superior to Liddell. Obviously Liddells resume and experience arent even comparable and he would be the overwhelming favoruite but purely from a striking perspective i think Kimbo has a decent shout.

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[errsta]

Obviously you haven't seen much of Liddell to make such a statement. Chuck usually counters very well, especially against a crude slugger like Kimbo. Liddell also has HW type power in both hands & great grappling, although he rarely needs it for anything more than stuffing takedown attempts.

:-(

[Mike W]

Kimbo Slice would win. His natural weight while street fighting was about 260 pounds. I think when's he's in shape, he'll be at around 240.

If this was a heavyweight fight or open weight fight, Kimbo Slice would win. Kimbo wouldn't be too competitive at MMA heavyweights, but against a fighter who's use to fighting at LHW, he'd have an advanatge.

Chuck Liddell would have a chance though

[BewareofDawg]

Chuck Liddell would have a chance though
Ya think :patsch What do you think Tito Ortiz's natural weight would be if he wasn't constantly training? I'd say b/w 220-240 :deal Randy Couture is the #2 Heavy in the world now and Liddell knocked him the fuck out twice :deal Your "Kimbo is too big" theory has been squashed.

[scurlaruntings]

Ya think :patsch What do you think Tito Ortiz's natural weight would be if he wasn't constantly training? I'd say b/w 220-240 :deal Randy Couture is the #2 Heavy in the world now and Liddell knocked him the fuck out twice :deal Your "Kimbo is too big" theory has been squashed.Not to be pendatic but Liddell KO`ed him at 205lbs. Randy is now a solid 220lbs plus. Thats quite a big diffrence to your conditoning.

[BewareofDawg]

Not to be pendatic but Liddell KO`ed him at 205lbs. Randy is now a solid 220lbs plus. Thats quite a big diffrence to your conditoning.
And if he fought Kimbo, it wouldn't be at Kimbo's "street weight". I was simply stating that Couture and Ortiz aren't that much "naturally smaller" men then Kimbo.

[Mike W]

Ya think :patsch What do you think Tito Ortiz's natural weight would be if he wasn't constantly training? I'd say b/w 220-240 :deal Randy Couture is the #2 Heavy in the world now and Liddell knocked him the fuck out twice :deal Your "Kimbo is too big" theory has been squashed.

Kimbo Slice is a tough street brawler, and he's learning grappling. He's used to fighting at Heavyweight, and as far as i know, Chuck Liddell hasn't had one heavyweight fight in his career.

I've seen Kimbo Slice's street fighting videos on Youtube, and all his opponents were in a bloody mess, even his loss to Sean Gannon.

I don't Chuck Liddell is a good brawler, he's a counter puncher. But Kimbo Slice would be too much for him to handle

[scurlaruntings]

And if he fought Kimbo, it wouldn't be at Kimbo's "street weight". I was simply stating that Couture and Ortiz aren't that much "naturally smaller" men then Kimbo.True. But Kimbo`s not as fat as Liddell either:yep Plus i think most of Tito`s weight is in his head.

[BewareofDawg]

True. But Kimbo`s not as fat as Liddell either:yep Plus i think most of Tito`s weight is in his head.
Yeah he's got at least a 20lb melon :rofl :rofl :rofl

[BewareofDawg]

Kimbo Slice is a tough street brawler, and he's learning grappling. He's used to fighting at Heavyweight, and as far as i know, Chuck Liddell hasn't had one heavyweight fight in his career.

I've seen Kimbo Slice's street fighting videos on Youtube, and all his opponents were in a bloody mess, even his loss to Sean Gannon.

I don't Chuck Liddell is a good brawler, he's a counter puncher. But Kimbo Slice would be too much for him to handle
He's had 2 Fights!!!!! One against a 70 yr old Mercer and the other against Tank Abbot. He may be used to fighting guys who weigh alot, but he isn't used to fighting UFC Heavyweights :deal

[Sundance]

I think Liddell peaked a year or two ago, but Slice is an unknown quantity.

[Nuke]

I think Liddel beats Kimbo as of now but this fight will never happen, Chuck has unfinished business in the LHW division and if he ever goes to HW he'd be near 40 or better and his skills would be too eroded for it to be interesting. So unless it happens within this year it ain't worth my time to talk about it.

[rendog67]

chuck would take him out

[codeman99998]

I've seen Kimbo Slice's street fighting videos on Youtube, and all his opponents were in a bloody mess, even his loss to Sean Gannon

:lol:

I'm not going to bother explaining why Kimbo winning his street fights and leaving his opponents in a "bloody mess" means absolutely 100% nothing.

[codeman99998]

I think Liddell peaked a year or two ago, but Slice is an unknown quantity.

My little brother is also an unknown quantity.

I think my little bro can beat Chuck Lidell. He's about 18, and he weights 230 or so walking around (more than Chuck Lidell, that is for sure.)

Chuck Lidell has been KOed by Rampage TWICE, so he clearly has a shaky chin. My bro has yet to be knocked out even once. He beats kids up at his high school until they are a bloody pulp. His performances behind the bleachers are unquestionable, and when you see how fast he drops his opponents, you will know he is for real.

Morons...