P4P Hamed would have beaten Roy Jones JR

[onourway]

No doubt.


P4P Hamed was a much harder puncher, had a better chin than Jones and was even more unorthodox and would have confused Jones. Speed was at a similar level too.

Can't see how Jones would have won this.

[heidegger]

He'd school prime Leonard too. KO in 4 the poonce, eh, I mean Prince.

[Muskyrat]

have heard it all now

[Muskyrat]

He'd school prime Leonard too.

like he schooled prime barrerra?
bollox

[dwilson]

If Hamed can boil down to 175 I am sure I would love to see this fight.

[platnumpapi]

nobody beats prime jones NOBODY

damn sure not a fucking waste of space like hamed.

[Rebel 08]

This is the funniest thread I've seen in a long time. Jones Jr has been boxing at the highest level for 20 years, Hamed fought 2 proper fighters Mcculough and Barerra, he barely beat Mcculough and got beaten by Barerra. theres no contest.

[Muskyrat]

reckon he's had the desired effect with this un - cant believe i've taken the bait and posted :patsch

[dwilson]

nobody beats prime jones NOBODY

damn sure not a fucking waste of space like hamed.


Even at catchweight this would be a fight worth seeing.

[onourway]

nobody beats prime jones NOBODY

damn sure not a fucking waste of space like hamed.

Hamed has advantages in speed, power, chin and spontaneity.

Hamed's problem was not getting up for fights.....he'd have been up for a fight with Jones (not that it could have ever actually happened), trained properly and KO'd him.

[pit]

No doubt.


P4P Hamed was a much harder puncher, had a better chin than Jones and was even more unorthodox and would have confused Jones. Speed was at a similar level too.

Can't see how Jones would have won this.


yeah that why he quit when he suffered his first lost right ... Sorry the boy falls short.

[platnumpapi]

Hamed has advantages in speed, power, chin and spontaneity.

Hamed's problem was not getting up for fights.....he'd have been up for a fight with Jones (not that it could have ever actually happened), trained properly and KO'd him.


hamed only beat a passed prime kevin kelly and mab put the smack down on him.he was to off balence when he punched at angles.and would have got stoped by roy or even pac.or anybody with a decent chin and fundementals of boxing.

funny to watch and thats it.and i mean FUNNY to watch :D

[marauder1999]

Beaten a prime Jones? I dont think so.

[Rico Spadafora]

No doubt.


P4P Hamed was a much harder puncher, had a better chin than Jones and was even more unorthodox and would have confused Jones. Speed was at a similar level too.

Can't see how Jones would have won this.

Both guys have a Glass Jaw so whoever lands the first good punch is getting knocked out.

[onourway]

Hamed didn't have a glass jaw.

You could floor him, but not hurt him.

[Jennifer Love Hewitt]

Yes, in a pound for pound sense, Prince would probably beat Roy.
Prince's power at his weight was phenominal, Roy's was good for his weight.
The style match up is wrong for Jones. Roy did not have the fundamentals to beat Prince throu attrition. Roy would spring in, as would Hamed, but Hamed would crack the chin of Jones, (in a pound for pound sense).

[Fat Joe]

He'd probably have a better chance than most, due to him being so unorthodox. Forget about the MAB fight, think of Hamed at 122 before he won a title

[bigtime-skills]

No doubt.


P4P Hamed was a much harder puncher, had a better chin than Jones and was even more unorthodox and would have confused Jones. Speed was at a similar level too.

Can't see how Jones would have won this.

:-( :roll: :patsch
And people don't believe me when I tell them Eastsideboxing has gone down the TOILET.......:-(

[BewareofDawg]

:rofl

[Dynamite Kid]

No doubt.


P4P Hamed was a much harder puncher, had a better chin than Jones and was even more unorthodox and would have confused Jones. Speed was at a similar level too.

Can't see how Jones would have won this.

:patsch Your actually comparing 2 guys who's natural weights were 175 and 126:rofl You do know there's a such thing called weight classes right?:lol: I can see if maybe you were comparing Prince Naseem to Camacho but your actually comparing him to Jones? P.S. i'm a big Naseem fan but he was NOWHERE NEAR Jones level... AT ALL:lol:

[onourway]

:patsch Your actually comparing 2 guys who's natural weights were 175 and 126:rofl You do know there's a such thing called weight classes right?:lol: I can see if maybe you were comparing Prince Naseem to Camacho but your actually comparing him to Jones? P.S. i'm a big Naseem fan but he was NOWHERE NEAR Jones level... AT ALL:lol:

You do understand the concept of P4P right??

Put them both in the same weight class, they retain the skills they had at the weight they were in. It's a mythical match up.

Hamed's a bad match up for Jones. Hamed would have KO'd him.

[Dynamite Kid]

:-( :roll: :patsch
And people don't believe me when I tell them Eastsideboxing has gone down the TOILET.......:-(

Totally agree:rofl I can't believe someone posted this

[Dynamite Kid]

You do understand the concept of P4P right??

Put them both in the same weight class, they retain the skills they had at the weight they were in. It's a mythical match up.

Hamed's a bad match up for Jones. Hamed would have KO'd him.

Ok same weightclass and retain there skills like you said. Jones STILL murders Hamed:lol: Hamed would lunge in off balance drop his hands and get popped, Prince was a big puncher but had bad fundamentals. his Augie Sanchez and Kevin Kelly fights prove that. Jones would be to fast, to strong, to smart, to athletic, to EVERYTHING. In a mythical match up like you say, Hamed still gets stopped:good Compare him to Camacho or someone like that. Jones skill, power, and speed wise would be way to much for him:good

[charlievint]

No doubt.


P4P Hamed was a much harder puncher, had a better chin than Jones and was even more unorthodox and would have confused Jones. Speed was at a similar level too.

Can't see how Jones would have won this.

Well....not every one can understand boxing so don't beat yourself up.:good

[Fat Joe]

A young Hamed who used to box more would have a small chance of the upset if he could land a few bombs.

[onourway]

The higher the weight, the better the chance for Hamed.

If they fight at middleweight with Jones staying the same and Hamed having the same skills, but relative to the division. Hamed's power would be unreal at a higher weight, unmatched at middleweight history.

With Jones shakey chin and Hamed's power = KO.

I have no doubts Hamed might get dropped a couple of times along the way though.

[standing 8]

The higher the weight, the better the chance for Hamed.

If they fight at middleweight with Jones staying the same and Hamed having the same skills, but relative to the division. Hamed's power would be unreal at a higher weight, unmatched at middleweight history.

With Jones shakey chin and Hamed's power = KO.

I have no doubts Hamed might get dropped a couple of times along the way though.

Hamed is way too short to beat Jones even if they were to fight at the same weight, plus Jones never showed any problems with his chin at middleweight.

[Stickandmove]

P4P Hamed would have the proverbial 'punchers chance' but RJJ was start as favorite.

This post is less ridiculous than some are making out. We're talking P4P peeps. If Hamed had been 160 pounds rather than 126.................he'd have had Julian Jackson level power. Enough to KO RJJ.................quite possibly.

[Dunks]

This gets my VOTE for worst THREAD this month....Hamed a 130lber over Roy Jones JR a LHW???......:lol: :lol: ...yeah ok....:patsch

lol this is stupid:huh

[Relentless]

hamed has allah, jones had mackie shilstone, big difference.

[Dunks]

You do understand the concept of P4P right??

Put them both in the same weight class, they retain the skills they had at the weight they were in. It's a mythical match up.

Hamed's a bad match up for Jones. Hamed would have KO'd him.

:patsch

[Weber]

Yeah, dropping your guard the way Hamed did - against RJJ - great idea:nut

[Stickandmove]

You do understand the concept of P4P right??

Put them both in the same weight class, they retain the skills they had at the weight they were in. It's a mythical match up.

Hamed's a bad match up for Jones. Hamed would have KO'd him.

:patsch


WE'RE TALKING P4P

Hamed would've had a definite punchers chance.

[onourway]

This gets my VOTE for worst THREAD this month....Hamed a 130lber over Roy Jones JR a LHW???......:lol: :lol: ...yeah ok....:patsch

lol this is stupid:huh

POUND FOR POUND.

Even better that you've chosen big letters and yellow writing to illustrate that you can't read a thread title.

[onourway]

Hamed at MW would have McClellan/Benn type power, even more powerful really. Hamed would have murderous power at MW.

But he's quicker than them, harder to read than them, throws punches from weirder angle and has an unorthodox style to cope with....

Hamed KO Jones P4P.

[jlrivera81]

this may be the worse thread ever. Hamed was good, but he was no Roy Jones. Roy Jones is an ATG. Not only that, but Roy Jones is probably the most gifted fighter EVER. Hamed, not so much. Not too many people stand a chance against Roy in his prime.

[Fat Joe]

Jones was used to himself being the unorthodox fighter, but he wouldn't be in this fight. Admittedly he's well above Hamed ability wise but you can't rule Hamed out entirely with his power. Does anyone remember how high up the P4P list Hamed was at his peak? I remember seeing a photo of Jones and Hamed together and i'm sure they were both on the list at this time.

[Ilesey]

No doubt.


P4P Hamed was a much harder puncher, had a better chin than Jones and was even more unorthodox and would have confused Jones. Speed was at a similar level too.

Can't see how Jones would have won this.

:lol:

Jeez!

[Alec900]

yeah right...

[Stickandmove]

Hamed at MW would have McClellan/Benn type power, even more powerful really. Hamed would have murderous power at MW.

But he's quicker than them, harder to read than them, throws punches from weirder angle and has an unorthodox style to cope with....

Hamed KO Jones P4P.

Steady on. Hamed has a definite chance, yeah. RJJ never faced anyone with Hamed type KO power. He never faced Benn, McClellan or Julian Jackson. RJJ never faced anyone with remotely that level of power.

But I'd still favour RJJ based on his slightly superior speed and vastly superior defence.

[Fat Joe]

If Tarver and Johnson could find his chin Hamed definitely could. Of course I acknowledge Jones was past his best at this point.

[Stickandmove]

If Tarver and Johnson could find his chin Hamed definitely could. Of course I acknowledge Jones was past his best at this point.

Exactly. Jones was very difficult to catch in his prime. He never faced anyone with Hamed type power though so we'll never know for sure how he'd have dealt with a genuine one punch KO artist.

Prime Jones was so special though. I think he'd have easily outboxed Benn, McClellan and Julian Jackson.

And if Hamed had been a middleweight / super-middleweight he'd have TKO'ed him in about 4 rounds. Probably.

[Fat Joe]

And if Hamed had been a middleweight / super-middleweight he'd have TKO'ed him in about 4 rounds. Probably.

I don't think he would have stopped the Prince, nobody else managed it.

[Stickandmove]

I don't think he would have stopped the Prince, nobody else managed it.

The Prince never faced anyone of RJJ's calibre.

RJJ starts as definite favorite.

[Mrboogie23]

fucking ridiculous thread.

[Fat Joe]

fucking ridiculous thread.

14 KO's in 17 world Title fights. He's got a punchers chance.

[Mrboogie23]

14 KO's in 17 world Title fights. He's got a punchers chance.


sure he does. :roll:


I just see how. What did have on Roy beyond power at his weight class? Barrera mopped the floor with the guy. I can't imagine Jones doing anything less than that.

Jones in his prime was one of the best fighters I've ever seen.

[Stickandmove]

sure he does. :roll:

Jones in his prime was one of the best fighters I've ever seen.

I totally agree with you. But did RJJ ever face anyone with P4P Hamed type power? Did he fight Benn, McClellan, Julian Jackson?

Jones never proved himself against a legitimate devastating one punch KO artist. And the fact that he was KO'ed by Tarver with one punch (even though Jones was past his best) raises question marks.

Jones would have been favorite against Hamed P4P, no doubt. But you cannot tell me that Hamed would have NO chance P4P. If he connects with his best punch on Jones - what happens?

[Mrboogie23]

I totally agree with you. But did RJJ ever face anyone with P4P Hamed type power? Did he fight Benn, McClellan, Julian Jackson?

Jones never proved himself against a legitimate devastating one punch KO artist. And the fact that he was KO'ed by Tarver with one punch (even though Jones was past his best) raises question marks.

Jones would have been favorite against Hamed P4P, no doubt. But you cannot tell me that Hamed would have NO chance P4P. If he connects with his best punch on Jones - what happens?

I understand your point, but I dont see Hamed landing his best shot on Jones. Just wouldnt happen. In Roy's prime years, how many times did you legitimately see him hit with a BIG shot?

[onourway]

I understand your point, but I dont see Hamed landing his best shot on Jones. Just wouldnt happen. In Roy's prime years, how many times did you legitimately see him hit with a BIG shot?

When did he ever fight somebody with the power, speed, attacking prowess and unorthodox nature of Hamed?

Another thing is, Hamed would have gone in thinking he could win, I doubt many of RJJ's opponents actually had the belief to do it.

[Mrboogie23]

When did he ever fight somebody with the power, speed, attacking prowess and unorthodox nature of Hamed?

Another thing is, Hamed would have gone in thinking he could win, I doubt many of RJJ's opponents actually had the belief to do it.


When did Hamed fight anyone with the speed, power, footwork, unorthodox offense and defense, and ring awareness of Jones?

Hamed loses. Nothing you can say is going to change that.

[Fat Joe]

Barrera mopped the floor with the guy.


Don't read too much into that fight. Jones was awesome but he was human he had a hard time with Griffin in their first.

[Dano]

If Hamed can boil down to 175 I am sure I would love to see this fight.

Hahaha!!:happy

Fuckin Hamed....please

[MetroMan]

Jones would have schooled Hamed P4P, no doubts.

[Sweet Pea]

No doubt.


P4P Hamed was a much harder puncher, had a better chin than Jones and was even more unorthodox and would have confused Jones. Speed was at a similar level too.

Can't see how Jones would have won this.LOL, not just a nationalistic retard, but also a complete dunce when it comes to boxing. I think it's safe to say this fat, inbred retard is either that other fat retard Arran or just a straight up troll.

[Fat Joe]

If the title of this thread was "could have" instead of "would have", it would make more sense. Hamed 16 or 17 odd world title defences, murderous hitter, never been stopped, against a fighter that has been KO'D a few times.

[OBCboxer]

If the title of this thread was "could have" instead of "would have", it would make more sense. Hamed 16 or 17 odd world title defences, murderous hitter, never been stopped, against a fighter that has been KO'D a few times.

Hamed's power....... Jones chin......... he has been KO'D a few times......Blah Blah Blah.

I don't how many times I've heard this he was past it when he got caught.

Jones' speed and reflexes were a step above Hamed's. Jones by UD.

THIS THREAD IS RETARDED.

[Fat Joe]

Hamed's power....... Jones chin......... he has been KO'D a few times......Blah Blah Blah.

I don't how many times I've heard this he was past it when he got caught.

Jones' speed and reflexes were a step above Hamed's. Jones by UD.

THIS THREAD IS RETARDED.

Hamed was very fast and elusive at 122.

[OBCboxer]

Hamed was very fast and elusive at 122.

I know he was. He looked great against a post prime Kevin Kelley.

Jones looked amazing against a prime James Toney.

[Mrboogie23]

I know he was. He looked great against a post prime Kevin Kelley.

Jones looked amazing against a prime James Toney.


great point. I agree.


On top of that name one person that had the reflexes, speed, and all around ability that Hamed faced that is even comparable to what a prime RJJ had.

[Fat Joe]

I know he was. He looked great against a post prime Kevin Kelley.

Jones looked amazing against a prime James Toney.

He looked terrible against Kelly and that was at 126. From what I've heard Toney didn't turn up for that fight. Anyway I'm not disagreeing that Hamed would 99 times out of 100 get is ass kicked but he's in with a chance with his style. Look him on YouTube against Enrique Angeles if you've never seen him before at 122.

[kg0208]

I think we are forgetting something here. You keep talking about Hamed's power.....what, you think that P4P Jones didn't hit hard? He was passively dropping LHW's. By passive, I mean he rarely went for the KO after MW because the fighters were bigger. The one time he did, Griffin, who as someone mentioned gave Jones a bit of trouble, was stopped in 1 round. You recall was Jones KO percentage was before LHW, which is past his best weight. Something like 31-0 with 28KO's.

And Hamed was fast, but not even close to Jones fast P4P. He would be outgunned here significantly in handspeed, footspeed, and ring generalship to name a few.

[Fat Joe]

I And Hamed was fast, but not even close to Jones fast P4P. He would be outgunned here significantly in handspeed, footspeed, and ring generalship to name a few.

Hamed was lightening fast in his early days but more with the single shot than the flurries Jones could produce.

[Samurai]

No

[196osh]

I really like Naz. But he would get dominated by Roy.

[kg0208]

Hamed was lightening fast in his early days but more with the single shot than the flurries Jones could produce.

Hamed, while fast, was never as fast with even a single shot of the upper echlon P4P speed guys like Jones and Taylor. Just like Jones, who had dynamite power P4P, was not on the level of Jackson and Hamed.

Just my opinion. But believe me, if Barrera coulld avoid his shots, Jones would have countered him silly. And while that was not the best version of Hamed mind you, he had not decreased in speed and power from my view, just drive and motivation.

[Fat Joe]

And while that was not the best version of Hamed mind you, he had not decreased in speed and power from my view, just drive and motivation.

He was a shadow of himself, lost his dedication the minute he won a world title.

[kg0208]

He was a shadow of himself, lost his dedication the minute he won a world title.

Well that's a bit much IMO, but I won't argue the point.

[CJLightweight]

I like both fighters but clearly roy is the more greater fighter overall

[Muskyrat]

Hamed was way overhyped and protected
first time in with a class act in his prime and he was given a lesson
jones is in a different league altogether
and i'm no big jones fan either just bein realistic

[KilltheKing]

Hamed was garbage. Get real.

[jupzrooni]

No doubt.


P4P Hamed was a much harder puncher, had a better chin than Jones and was even more unorthodox and would have confused Jones. Speed was at a similar level too.

Can't see how Jones would have won this.


:huh

[jupzrooni]

Hamed was garbage. Get real.

hamed fanatics will not agree on your statement

[Symphenyceo]

lol @ this thread

[ripcity]

Jones at 160,168,175 and heavyweight was fast not for those weights just fast.
He would be to fast for Hamed. Hamed's shots would hit air. They probbly ko jones if they landed but they wouldn't.

[Borincano]

Hamed didn't have a glass jaw.

You could floor him, but not hurt him.

He had glass legs. How many chicken dances did he do before he retired?

[Mrboogie23]

uwEsvUdTotw



those crazy shots would not land on Jones, and he would counter just like was done in the video. Difference being, Hamed wouldnt get up from a Jones counter.

[Steel Kelly]

People have got to stop sniffing the Ajax!

[C Money]

No doubt.


P4P Hamed was a much harder puncher, had a better chin than Jones and was even more unorthodox and would have confused Jones. Speed was at a similar level too.

Can't see how Jones would have won this.


:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire :fire

The mere existence of threads like this? Only serve as evidnece to what a DISEASE Hamed's persona and hype are to the sport of boxing:verysad :verysad :verysad :verysad

STFU!!!! Hamed is a B level guy with good power who wouldnt hit RJJ and would get beat the fuck down:good

Hamed is in NO WAY COMPARABLE:nono Not in legacy/career:scaredas: Nor in skill and ability:yikes Hamed is a FUCKING JOKE, that's right, FUCKING JOKE COMPARED TO ROY:deal

I'm not even a RJJ fan, but he did HAVE TALENT and beating guy's like Hopkins and Toney proved it.

WHO THE FUCK DID HAMED BEAT, that could begin to sniff the talent of Hop's, Toney???:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Please stick a Hamed Dildo in you're ass tonight if you find any justification for Hamed in that matter:hat

[Fat Joe]

Shut up you pin arse! Don't mention their names in the same sentence again you fuckin fringe!

P4P Calzaghe would have schooled the Prince.

[LeonardLeroy]

Haven't read the thread but I'd watch that. It would be hilarious, fun, and ridiculous to watch.

[rodney]

Hamed made his reputation against mostly sub standard opponents.
He was truly exposed by Barrera.
Although he did have knock out power, most of his punches were arm punches.
Nevertheless he did have several knock outs, many because he was heavy handed.
Now ---- this alone does not make a great pound for pound knock out puncher .
---- not even close.

[JAB5239]

If Hamed can boil down to 175 I am sure I would love to see this fight.


Now thats funny!! :yep

[dwilson]

RJJ just would not be able to live with Hamed in a fight. RJJ could not keep at heavy because he was scared of the big punchers. Hamed hits harder than most heavies so he would double over RJJ in under 5rounds. Add to that Hamed's mixture of speed, skill, athleticism and power he would stand a class apart even at catchweight.

On a pound for pound basis Hamed is near the top of the ATG list while RJJ is not even a top 30. Hamed fought everyone out there he could while RJJ only fought hand picked opponents.

[Fat Joe]

Hamed made his reputation against mostly sub standard opponents.
He was truly exposed by Barrera.
Although he did have knock out power, most of his punches were arm punches.

:patsch 36 Wins - 31 KO's

[Outboxer]

most of his punches were arm punches.


Oh my God...