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Russell
04-11-2008, 07:52 PM
That could so much as get his attention?
Even at age 47 Shannon Brigg's couldn't even seem to slow him down.
25 punch volleys from the underrated power of Holyfield didn't do much.
Morrison... Same.
Moorer had power even at heavyweight, and that just delayed the invevitable.
Anyone?
PowerPuncher
04-11-2008, 07:55 PM
YES, Lennox Lewis, Foreman called him the best EVER, when he was still linear champ I believe
mr. magoo
04-11-2008, 07:58 PM
That could so much as get his attention?
Even at age 47 Shannon Brigg's couldn't even seem to slow him down.
25 punch volleys from the underrated power of Holyfield didn't do much.
Morrison... Same.
Moorer had power even at heavyweight, and that just delayed the invevitable.
Anyone?
I think Foreman was one of the best punchers of the 90's in the earlier part of the decade. As the years rolled on, however he seemed to have lost some of his ability to finish men.
SuzieQ49
04-11-2008, 08:04 PM
Tyson in 1991 would have knocked foreman out badly, similiar to tyson-holmes. before thankful for George that fight didnt take place. Ruddock in his prime pre 1992 would have done alot of damage to george.
Russell
04-11-2008, 08:06 PM
Tyson in 1991 would have knocked foreman out badly, similiar to tyson-holmes. before thankful for George that fight didnt take place. Ruddock in his prime pre 1992 would have done alot of damage to george.
Ruddock?
Ruddock had a great jab that he was forgetting how to use by that time, and even if he HAD used to, Foreman had a great jab himself.
And blowing post comeback Foreman out of there with the Smash?
No on in history blows out comeback George. No one.
SuzieQ49
04-11-2008, 08:07 PM
No one in history blows out holmes too right? Against Mike tyson there is no such thing as a great chin. Tyson takes foreman out in 1991
PowerPuncher
04-11-2008, 08:08 PM
Ruddock?
Ruddock had a great jab that he was forgetting how to use by that time, and even if he HAD used to, Foreman had a great jab himself.
And blowing post comeback Foreman out of there with the Smash?
No on in history blows out comeback George. No one.
I think Tyson does KO Comeback George, but Foreman beats the slower Rudduck in a brawl
Russell
04-11-2008, 08:10 PM
No one in history blows out holmes too right? Against Mike tyson there is no such thing as a great chin. Tyson takes foreman out in 1991
Bullshit.
You flaunt the fact constantly that Tucker lasted 12 with a prime Tyson, with a broken hand none the less.
Great chins don't dissappear against any fighter.
Russell
04-11-2008, 08:11 PM
1987 MegaTyson™ would absolutely murder foreman at any point in history.
Damn you and all your accounts.
PowerPuncher
04-11-2008, 08:12 PM
Bullshit.
You flaunt the fact constantly that Tucker lasted 12 with a prime Tyson, with a broken hand none the less.
Great chins don't dissappear against any fighter.
Tucker was defensive, Foreman would get hit more
SuzieQ49
04-11-2008, 08:16 PM
A prime tony tucker was 10x the fighter defensivley/speed wise a 43 year old granpa fat foreman would be. Foreman in 1991 was there to be hit, he had no defense or speed.
Russell
04-11-2008, 08:19 PM
Would, but he still went 12 with any number of unbelievably hard hitters.
He's not getting blown out by anyone, once again.
Russell
04-11-2008, 08:20 PM
A prime tony tucker was 10x the fighter defensivley/speed wise a 43 year old granpa fat foreman would be. Foreman in 1991 was there to be hit, he had no defense or speed.
:lol::lol::lol:
SuzieQ49
04-11-2008, 08:49 PM
what is so funny? the fact a 44 year old foreman was nothing but a big punching bag? he was slow as molasses and had no defense, as seen in the fact alex stewart left him a bloody mess and beat him up. O ya the same alex stewart that tyson dusted in one round.
mr. magoo
04-11-2008, 09:00 PM
what is so funny? the fact a 44 year old foreman was nothing but a big punching bag? he was slow as molasses and had no defense, as seen in the fact alex stewart left him a bloody mess and beat him up. O ya the same alex stewart that tyson dusted in one round.
That fight was probably the best performance that Alex Stewart ever had, and one of the worst of a 44 year old Foreman's. Stewart and Tyson were nothin alike, and Tyson actually had a style that was better suited for George than anyone else.
Do you think that Razor Ruddock was a better fighter than Foreman was in the 90's? One of Ruddock's best wins that put him on the map was a 36 year old Boncrusher Smith who fought Ruddock in 1989. I saw that fight live. Smith hadn't won a fight since 1986, and that was a fix against Witherspoon and I'm not even going to argue that the fight was set up to go in the tank. I have already posted an entire thread on this issue and gave evidence of its makings.
Smith was nearly 20 pounds over weight for this fight, and fighting very rarely. He was coming off a losing streak and nearly Ko'd Ruddock, yet not long after, he scored a win over Dokes ( a coked up version who was declining ), then took Tyson the distance. This says nothing about Tyson's fights with Tucker and Douglas ( though he was not motivated for Douglas, but we're talking about a 90's version, not 80's ).
Foreman was a better fighter in 1991, then any Tyson had faced in years, and he could have easily given Tyson a great fight, perhaps even upset him......
Russell
04-11-2008, 09:43 PM
Spoon' jobbed to Smith?
mr. magoo
04-11-2008, 09:46 PM
Spoon' jobbed to Smith?
Yes, and several months ago, I wrote a whole thread about it.
Russell
04-11-2008, 10:29 PM
Remember anything that was said there?
I'm pretty interested in it now.
mr. magoo
04-11-2008, 10:55 PM
Remember anything that was said there?
I'm pretty interested in it now.
This is about the tenth time I've gone through this, I am now swearing on my own grave that it will be the last....
In 1990, I saw Witherspoon fight a journeyman named Jeff Simms. Sean O'Grady and Al Albert, hosted the fight. During the bout, I was listening to their commentary. Witherspoon was interviewed by O'Grady before the fight, and Sean said, that Witherspoon mentioned the Smith fight years earlier. Witherspoon quoted, that King instructed him " you will lose this fight, or you will test positive for drugs"
This was the short version of my post. I went into great detail about the adversity and anomosity between Witherspoon and King leading up to that fight.....
Russell
04-12-2008, 02:14 AM
Makes sense.
Thanks.
housecat
04-12-2008, 02:25 AM
Tyson in 1991 would have knocked foreman out badly, similiar to tyson-holmes. before thankful for George that fight didnt take place. Ruddock in his prime pre 1992 would have done alot of damage to george.Not a chance, Foreman would have destroyed Tyson with ease in 4 or less.
Tyson is well known to have ducked Foreman, that says it all.
Russell
04-12-2008, 04:45 AM
Tyson flat out had a fucking fit when a Foreman fight was presented to him.
Cus' used to watch Foreman/Frazier endlessy with Tyson, and Tyson came to marvel at Foreman's power.
That's a well enough known story.
RoccoMarciano
04-12-2008, 05:25 AM
A prime tony tucker was 10x the fighter defensivley/speed wise a 43 year old granpa fat foreman would be. Foreman in 1991 was there to be hit, he had no defense or speed.
Don't forget a phantom punch or two.... Not that anybody took a dive during his comeback.
For the Foreman lovers, I still think he is a top 10.
godking
04-12-2008, 10:19 AM
That could so much as get his attention?
Even at age 47 Shannon Brigg's couldn't even seem to slow him down.
25 punch volleys from the underrated power of Holyfield didn't do much.
Morrison... Same.
Moorer had power even at heavyweight, and that just delayed the invevitable.
Anyone?:roll: :roll: 90s Foreman is very overrated.
josak
04-12-2008, 11:29 PM
Ya I think tyson would have brutally beaten old george. in a prime for prime fight though, I lean towards Foreman.
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