View Full Version : Lets not get excited... Cintron is THE most overated fighter in boxing
Yep.... I was foolish by picking him to last the distance. I thought Marg might get lazy, and Steward could have at least fixed some of his GLARING defensive weaknesses...
He has an abundance of technical flaws... which is what i pointed out to people here after the Maythsse fight when they were claiming him to be then next superstar of the division, the guy who would stop Cotto.
Dominant victory by Marg never the less.
A question for some here.... How do certain posters RATE a fighter like Andrade, yet totally despise Marg, who is basically an all round better version of Andrade??
THAT boggles the mind right there.
What are your thoughts on the bout?? I hope a swing of AM nuthuggers don't suddenly re-appear now. Very good fighter, not as good as Mayweather, Cotto or SSM.
Would also lose to Quintana IMO..
This fight just highlighted how limited Cintron is.
How anyone would pick him, when he went life and death with ESTRADA is absolutey beyond me...
Arriba
04-12-2008, 10:52 PM
All this time people tried to say Quintana was the softest of the Puerto Rican Welters because he folded under Cotto's power.
Funny how things work out.
Nalian
04-12-2008, 10:53 PM
I'd say second most overated
Second to Chad Dawson.
D_knowsboxing
04-12-2008, 10:56 PM
I really don't see how Cintron is alive... Yes, I said it... ALIVE... He has no heart at all, so I find it a medical miracle for him to be walking and talking and ESPECIALLY boxing when there is a big vacant spot in the middle of his chest where a heart should be.
WhataRock
04-12-2008, 10:56 PM
Who ever rated Cintron that highly anyway?
Magarito is a top fighter, but I never really rated him elite. Two things about him, everyone just got plain tired of the "most avoided fighter on the planet" monicker. And also its hard the consider him with the likes of Mayweather, De la Hoya, SSM or even Cotto .
Even though he could well beat some of them, he was a bit of a victim of the talent and marquee of the division, I dont think many people factored him into it.
Who ever rated Cintron that highly anyway?
Magarito is a top fighter, but I never really rated him elite. Two things about him, everyone just got plain tired of the "most avoided fighter on the planet" monicker. And also its hard the consider him with the likes of Mayweather, De la Hoya, SSM or even Cotto .
Even though he could well beat some of them, he was a bit of a victim of the talent and marquee of the division, I dont think many people factored him into it.
Heaps of people.... After he won his title, there were a tonne of people choosing him to KO Cotto because Cotto wouldn't be able to take his punch.
People who also thought Cintron could take him in the rematch...
Strange...
I have to admit i am suprised, much less Marg hype then i had anticipated.
Amsterdam
04-13-2008, 12:55 AM
I have to admit i am suprised, much less Marg hype then i had anticipated.
The poor Clottey showing and Williams loss difused that.:smoke
Cotto would get Marg out in a matter of a few rounds.
JAB5239
04-13-2008, 12:59 AM
I have to admit i am suprised, much less Marg hype then i had anticipated.
I picked Cintron to win tonight. Big mistake. If Margario fights like he did tonight, i'd pick him over Shane.
Dynamite Kid
04-13-2008, 01:13 AM
Yep.... I was foolish by picking him to last the distance. I thought Marg might get lazy, and Steward could have at least fixed some of his GLARING defensive weaknesses...
He has an abundance of technical flaws... which is what i pointed out to people here after the Maythsse fight when they were claiming him to be then next superstar of the division, the guy who would stop Cotto.
Dominant victory by Marg never the less.
A question for some here.... How do certain posters RATE a fighter like Andrade, yet totally despise Marg, who is basically an all round better version of Andrade??
THAT boggles the mind right there.
What are your thoughts on the bout?? I hope a swing of AM nuthuggers don't suddenly re-appear now. Very good fighter, not as good as Mayweather, Cotto or SSM.
Would also lose to Quintana IMO..
This fight just highlighted how limited Cintron is.
How anyone would pick him, when he went life and death with ESTRADA is absolutey beyond me...
I always thought he sucked. I never thought Cintron was anything special
Archie_Moore
04-13-2008, 01:15 AM
The poor Clottey showing and Williams loss difused that.:smoke
Cotto would get Marg out in a matter of a few rounds.
you wish, say what you want about Cintron but the guy hits very hard, much harder then Cotto.
4Rounder
04-13-2008, 01:20 AM
A lot of people don't like Margarito simply because he tried to make a fight with Mayweather, simple as that. And with his promoter holding the banner "most feared man in boxing" over his head didn't help much.
You got both Floyd and Cotto, who have a big following in ESB and its predictable you will have all sorts of haters who despise Margo for being a threat to their fighters.
jrios
04-13-2008, 01:22 AM
Cintron is a threat to anyone in the division, except Margo. He fought the wrong fight against Margo. He lacks a lot of fundamentals. He relies solely on his power. As soon as he saw Margo walk through his best punches, he didn't know what to do. He went in there to try and KO a guy with an iron chin. He still has a puncher's chance against any other welter though, IMO.
Amsterdam
04-13-2008, 01:24 AM
you wish, say what you want about Cintron but the guy hits very hard, much harder then Cotto.
Yes, but he's not as accurate and nor would he land with the same accumulation and damage that follows such. Margo cuts and bruised easily, Cotto creates damage on fighters faces consistently like no other I've seen.
Beebs
04-13-2008, 01:26 AM
Its a 3 way tie between Cintron, Margarito, and Williams.
At least nobody said Cintron would beat Floyd, :lol:
BlueApollo
04-13-2008, 01:28 AM
you wish, say what you want about Cintron but the guy hits very hard, much harder then Cotto.
I'd bet a tidy sum that Cotto would stop Feliciano in half the time it took Cintron to make the ref step in. Cotto's left to the body is a nastier punch than Cintron's overhand right.
As for why Andrade gets less hate, one, if you know his story or have seen him interviewed, you immediately like him personally, unless you are a complete asshole. Tony is just as decent of a guy, but he has clung harder to his "badass" image. Two, Andrade's technical limitations are so obvious, no one views him as a true threat to their precious idols. And three, he's never had the misfortune of being picked as a threat to Floyd Mayweather.
That alone cost Margarito fans he should have had all along.
Bubba
04-13-2008, 01:33 AM
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Bentchassis
04-13-2008, 01:56 AM
I'm convinced Cintron lacks the heart to compete at any distinct level, he showed flaws that would have me thinking how he got where he has in the first place.
He's stupid, 'gee my combinations are working well from the outside, how about i move in and out, use my jab to keep at bay, cover my body and look to counter, feint and create angles while using my speed and power abilities to my advantage OR maybe I might let Marg in on me and brawl against this fuckn beast of a man, who im clearly scared off, drop my hands, twist my body so he can only hit me in the side of the head and brutalise my f'ing kidneys'????????????
The poor Clottey showing and Williams loss difused that.:smoke
Cotto would get Marg out in a matter of a few rounds.
Really??
I think he would win, but not sure if it would be that quick a stoppage, especially considering how tough and big Marg is for a Welter. Cotto is certainly on another level though..
audio101
04-13-2008, 02:02 AM
I really don't see how Cintron is alive... Yes, I said it... ALIVE... He has no heart at all, so I find it a medical miracle for him to be walking and talking and ESPECIALLY boxing when there is a big vacant spot in the middle of his chest where a heart should be.
Hard to bash the guy after some of the things he's gone through outside the ring.
Grow up a little..
lillarry
04-13-2008, 02:06 AM
I honestly think the guy could make some noise at the 154 division...They isn't any guys with relentless pressure like Margarito around that weight division
I think the extra weight might do him some good.
jupzrooni
04-13-2008, 02:08 AM
I'd say second most overated
Second to Chad Dawson.
:good
jupzrooni
04-13-2008, 02:11 AM
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too bad kermit cintron usually folds under pressure... why the fuck did he decide to become a boxer with that 'softie' attitude of his?
audio101
04-13-2008, 02:15 AM
too bad kermit cintron usually folds under pressure... why the fuck did he decide to become a boxer with that 'softie' attitude of his?
Did you not watch the pre fight segment? If you did you might find out why..
WhataRock
04-13-2008, 07:44 AM
Heaps of people.... After he won his title, there were a tonne of people choosing him to KO Cotto because Cotto wouldn't be able to take his punch.
People who also thought Cintron could take him in the rematch...
Strange...
Yeah well they are fucking idiots :lol:
I just never thought he was that good and most guys who bother to post knew there shit enough to agree.
He just got hyped by the networks because he hit hard.\
As amster said those things counted against him, I mean you look at whats been going between 140-154 for the last few years it would be easy to be pushed off to the side after a loss or even a poor performance.
Yeah well they are fucking idiots :lol:
I just never thought he was that good and most guys who bother to post knew there shit enough to agree.
He just got hyped by the networks because he hit hard.\
As amster said those things counted against him, I mean you look at whats been going between 140-154 for the last few years it would be easy to be pushed off to the side after a loss or even a poor performance.
A couple good posters picked Cintron as well... Amster being one i think, Ko0208 also, Sues2nd.... A heap of solid posters actually.
Which really suprised me.
Everyone has their moments though... I have been guilty obviously of over rating Dawson. Still haven't seen the fight, but the guy i thought he was would NEVER get taken into deep waters by Johnson.
WhataRock
04-13-2008, 08:01 AM
Everyone has their moments though... I have been guilty obviously of over rating Dawson. Still haven't seen the fight, but the guy i thought he was would NEVER get taken into deep waters by Johnson.
Thats not a bad thing. Johnson is a freak, his amazing record is proof of that. I still cant believe he is still so competitive at this age.
I have made some absolute shockers in my time, thats why I love the sport. You can be totally convinced that you have picked the right fighter and all it takes is one punch to shatter that.
You are either and ATG or a fraud on ESB its ridiculous.
Cinton was just beaten by the better man, he tried taking MArgo out with his big shots, but they had no effect, that got into his head and again he dismantled under the pressure. I thought it would be different second time around I thought he would atleast try to box differentky from the first meeting. Margo has the best chin in boxing for me as Cintron is one of the biggest punchers and every shot had minimal effect!
Cotto - Margo would be interesting, I cant see Cotto stopping him tbh, in fact I dont think that would be Cottos plan, he would have to use his sweeter ablity to get the decision. Margos workrate and chin pose serious problems to a man who like to control the pace. Cotto throws his shots then steps, as if to see what effect they have, he certainly doesnt rush into anything. i would pick Cotto to beat Margo but wouldnt put any money on it, style wise Antonio Margarito is a major threat.
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