Glen Johnson would BEAT Joe Calzaghe

[markbrooklyn]

It's funny that most of the posters that are claiming that Dawson was "exposed" are Calzaghe fans. It seems they have a very short memory and don't remember their boy Calzaghe going life and death with SAKIO BIKA. Do you honestly think that Calzaghe would do better then Dawson did against Johnson? Sakio Bika is an AVERAGE fighter and that's at 168lbs. Johnson is a tough as nails pressure fighter at 175lbs. NOBODY ever beat Johnson easily except maybe Hopkins. Why didn't the same posters that said Dawson was exposed say Calzaghe was exposed when Sakio Bika roughed him up? By calling Dawson exposed you're also taking credit away from Johnson who is probably one of the most underrated fighters today. And let me tell you this.. Chad Dawson DESTROYS Sakio Bika. Go ahead and try to deny that Calzaghe fans.

[smoochp]

Thank you, but I still think Joe would win, but Dawson wasn't exposed just fought a hard fight. And I still fill he is the future of the divinson. Never knew Johnson was an easy oppent for anyone

[KO Boxing]

I dunno. An inform Calzaghe likely beats Johnson. However,

FACT: Calzaghe DUCKED Johnson MORESO than Hopkins ducked Calzaghe (when he had a 10 million Dela Hoya pay day ahead of him)

[markbrooklyn]

Thank you, but I still think Joe would win, but Dawson wasn't exposed just fought a hard fight. And I still fill he is the future of the divinson. Never knew Johnson was an easy oppent for anyone

Exactly.. They're acting like Johnson is some guy from the Contender show.. Oops that was Calzaghes opponents Peter Manfredo and Sakio Bika :rofl

[mattress]

markbrooklyn, possibly the worst poster in ESB history. I thought that you had fucked off for good. Shame.

[smoochp]

Exactly.. They're acting like Johnson is some guy from the Contender show.. Oops that was Calzaghes opponents Peter Manfredo and Sakio Bika :rofl
Trust me I'm not a fan of Johnson, because of the fight with Jones. But I know he is ass hard as they come, kind of like MARGO if that is a good example. He can take a punch and keeps on coming. Thaty is the type of fight Dawson needs and I respect him for taking the challenge. hE KNEW what he was getting in to. But really see why he beat Roy. He just keeps coming

[markbrooklyn]

markbrooklyn, possibly the worst poster in ESB history. I thought that you had fucked off for good. Shame.

Look a Calzaghe fan :rofl

[Amsterdam]

Unlike Dawson, Calzaghe excells against pressure fighters, and I mean, EXCELLS.

[Snorkel]

It's funny that most of the posters that are claiming that Dawson was "exposed" are Calzaghe fans. It seems they have a very short memory and don't remember their boy Calzaghe going life and death with SAKIO BIKA. Do you honestly think that Calzaghe would do better then Dawson did against Johnson? Sakio Bika is an AVERAGE fighter and that's at 168lbs. Johnson is a tough as nails pressure fighter at 175lbs. NOBODY ever beat Johnson easily except maybe Hopkins. Why didn't the same posters that said Dawson was exposed say Calzaghe was exposed when Sakio Bika roughed him up? By calling Dawson exposed you're also taking credit away from Johnson who is probably one of the most underrated fighters today. And let me tell you this.. Chad Dawson DESTROYS Sakio Bika. Go ahead and try to deny that Calzaghe fans.

Calzaghe didn't take Bika seriously but only suffered when he started messing about. He still won clearly, unlike Dawson who drew in my book.

Calzaghe's different from Dawson in that he has far more guile, movement, angles and a better chin. Clinton Woods beat Johnson last time they fought without showing any of any of the subtlety that Calzaghe has. I can't see anything that Johnson does that'd stop him being picked off all night. Clear UD for Joe.

[smoochp]

Unlike Dawson, Calzaghe excells against pressure fighters, and I mean, EXCELLS.
Don't get me wrong I love Calzaghe but why did he not fight Johnson, but instead fought Manfredo or Bika. Fighting Johnson would of been better on his resume and I still think Calzghe would had won. But it would have been one of his toughest fights ever

[Caliboxing]

It's funny that most of the posters that are claiming that Dawson was "exposed" are Calzaghe fans. It seems they have a very short memory and don't remember their boy Calzaghe going life and death with SAKIO BIKA. Do you honestly think that Calzaghe would do better then Dawson did against Johnson? Sakio Bika is an AVERAGE fighter and that's at 168lbs. Johnson is a tough as nails pressure fighter at 175lbs. NOBODY ever beat Johnson easily except maybe Hopkins. Why didn't the same posters that said Dawson was exposed say Calzaghe was exposed when Sakio Bika roughed him up? By calling Dawson exposed you're also taking credit away from Johnson who is probably one of the most underrated fighters today. And let me tell you this.. Chad Dawson DESTROYS Sakio Bika. Go ahead and try to deny that Calzaghe fans.



Johnson is much stronger and showed that he knows how to deal with speed, and can take a punch. It's definitely possible that he beats Calzaghe.

[markbrooklyn]

Unlike Dawson, Calzaghe excells against pressure fighters, and I mean, EXCELLS.

LOL oh yea what pressure fighter did he excel against?? Sakio Bika showed him pressure but I don't think Bika is really a pressure fighter. So what pressure fighter like Johnson did Calzaghe excel against. Please explain.

[markbrooklyn]

Calzaghe didn't take Bika seriously but only suffered when he started messing about. He still won clearly, unlike Dawson who drew in my book.

Calzaghe's different from Dawson in that he has far more guile, movement, angles and a better chin. Clinton Woods beat Johnson last time they fought without showing any of any of the subtlety that Calzaghe has. I can't see anything that Johnson does that'd stop him being picked off all night. Clear UD for Joe.

Ohhh its the "he didnt take him seriously" excuse.

[smoochp]

Calzaghe didn't take Bika seriously but only suffered when he started messing about. He still won clearly, unlike Dawson who drew in my book.

Calzaghe's different from Dawson in that he has far more guile, movement, angles and a better chin. Clinton Woods beat Johnson last time they fought without showing any of any of the subtlety that Calzaghe has. I can't see anything that Johnson does that'd stop him being picked off all night. Clear UD for Joe.
Bika and Johnson are 2 different types of fighters. And Johnson would kill Bika. But I do think Clazaghe beats Johnson but it would be a shut out. But I',m thinking 116-112 which is still alot in my opinion

[China_hand_Joe]

LOL oh yea what pressure fighter did he excel against?? Sakio Bika showed him pressure but I don't think Bika is really a pressure fighter. So what pressure fighter like Johnson did Calzaghe excel against. Please explain.

Any fighter than moves forwards is simply picked off by Calzaghe's handspeed and accuracy.

Calzaghe is probably the best backfoot fighter of all time.

[ApatheticLeader]

Listen, if Clinton Woods can get by Johnson, then Calzaghe, being far classier a fighter, can too.

BUT.....it's a bad style for Calzaghe, and Johnson gives him absolute fucking hell to pay in losing a slender decision.

The thing I love about Johnson is that he honestly seems to have learned something from each of his defeats while not really having to modify his style over the years too much. It's brilliant, and he's brilliant.

[smoochp]

Any fighter than moves forwards is simply picked off by Calzaghe's handspeed and accuracy.

Calzaghe is probably the best backfoot fighter of all time.
Better than Sugar Ray Robinson?

[KO Boxing]

Any fighter than moves forwards is simply picked off by Calzaghe's handspeed and accuracy.

Calzaghe is probably the best backfoot fighter of all time.
Hence why Calzaghe got second thoughts and pulled out of the Johnson fight, right?

How many times?

[markbrooklyn]

Any fighter than moves forwards is simply picked off by Calzaghe's handspeed and accuracy.

Calzaghe is probably the best backfoot fighter of all time.

Uhhh ever heard of a fighter named Floyd Mayweather Jr?

[Snorkel]

Ohhh its the "he didnt take him seriously" excuse.

Watch the build up to the fight and the fight itself and then tell me that he was taking it as seriously as he took Lacy and Kessler.

His performance was dominant early on and towards the end, he just lost concentration and focus in the middle. At no point was Bika outboxing him, he merely dragged Joe into his game and won a few rounds on the back of his dirty tactics. Not remotely comparable to last nights fight.

[Pimp C]

Listen, if Clinton Woods can get by Johnson, then Calzaghe, being far classier a fighter, can too.

BUT.....it's a bad style for Calzaghe, and Johnson gives him absolute fucking hell to pay in losing a slender decision.

The thing I love about Johnson is that he honestly seems to have learned something from each of his defeats while not really having to modify his style over the years too much. It's brilliant, and he's brilliant. Johnson arguabally won all his fights against Woods:deal

[ApatheticLeader]

Johnson arguabally won all his fights against Woods:deal

'Arguably' being the operative word :deal

[China_hand_Joe]

Better than Sugar Ray Robinson?

Sugar Ray Robinson was better going forwards, using the explosiveness he was bless with. He was (relatively) open to the jab, not ideal if you are going onto the backfoot.

[mattress]

Look a Calzaghe fan :rofl

I am a boxing fan and pricks like you make me (and just about everyone else) sick.

[China_hand_Joe]

Hence why Calzaghe got second thoughts and pulled out of the Johnson fight, right?

How many times?

Twice, injuries and personal problems gave him no choice but to, Johnson didn't want to sign for a 3rd time.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Unlike Dawson, Calzaghe excells against pressure fighters, and I mean, EXCELLS.

Like against who? :huh

[mattress]

Johnson arguabally won all his fights against Woods:deal

without question the results were 'arguable'. One thing is for sure, he didn't get ripped-off like he did last night.

[China_hand_Joe]

Uhhh ever heard of a fighter named Floyd Mayweather Jr?

Mayweather is a better fighter in the pocket, not on the backfoot though.

[KO Boxing]

Twice, injuries and personal problems gave him no choice but to, Johnson didn't want to sign for a 3rd time.
Convenient?

[KilltheKing]

Mayweather is a better fighter in the pocket, not on the backfoot though.


LMAO. Mayweather is two full levels above Joe in all respects.

[smoochp]

Sugar Ray Robinson was better going forwards, using the explosiveness he was bless with. He was (relatively) open to the jab, not ideal if you are going onto the backfoot.
Thanks because I just got got some off his fights, because I found out that most of his great fights from lw to MW were not around which was his better days with 1 punch KO power. But Floyd is good fighting back. Calzaghe is up their to. Leonard was great also along with Sweet pea :good

[Rock0052]

Listen, if Clinton Woods can get by Johnson, then Calzaghe, being far classier a fighter, can too.

BUT.....it's a bad style for Calzaghe, and Johnson gives him absolute fucking hell to pay in losing a slender decision.

The thing I love about Johnson is that he honestly seems to have learned something from each of his defeats while not really having to modify his style over the years too much. It's brilliant, and he's brilliant.
I don't think it's a bad style matchup at all...Calzaghe's favorite opponents are the ones who come in straight forward nonstop because he's got the speed to land when the fighters on the way in, then rotate to turn and stop that fighters forward momentum, and the conditioning to do it the entire fight. He also clinches, which is something that helps against Johnson. He'd win a wide UD by the time it's all said and done.

[mattress]

LMAO. Mayweather is two full levels above Joe in all respects.


Of course he is. Certainly in WWE or whatever the hell fight he won a few weeks ago. Calzaghe would certainly be murdered by that 7 foot behemoth.

[China_hand_Joe]

Convenient?

Quite the opposite, Calzaghe would be a legend both sides of the Atlantic already had he fought Johnson (big name American based fighter) several years ago.

[Unstoppable]

When all is said and done, JC still beats Hopkins UD 120-108, this saturday

[KO Boxing]

Quite the opposite, Calzaghe would be a legend both sides of the Atlantic already had he fought Johnson (big name American based fighter) several years ago.
Damn, if only he had more faith in his ability, ay?

Not too big on second-guessers, to be honest.

When all is said and done, JC still beats Hopkins UD 120-108, this saturday
And what will you say if he only wins 116-112?

[BIG WORM]

calzaghe would stop johnson

[mattress]

calzaghe would stop johnson

I think that your statement is unlikely and debateable at best.

[KO Boxing]

Johnson is a C-class fighter
So couldn't Joe beat him, even with his "personal problems"? Methinks Joe pulled out TWICE of a fight with Johnson, because Joe believed the fight would be harder than any other fight he had (up until that time, at least)

[Lance_Uppercut]

I don't think Johnson outworking Calzaghe for win is out of the question.

[mattress]

Johnson is a C-class fighter.

I have to disagree with you there mate.

[thespecialone]

So couldn't Joe beat him, even with his "personal problems"? Methinks Joe pulled out TWICE of a fight with Johnson, because Joe believed the fight would be harder than any other fight he had (up until that time, at least)

If that was the case he wouldn't sign to fight him in the first place.

[jc]

Johnson has had a lot of close fights go against him, but the fact he has had so many close fight against guys who are not always elite shows his level. Gle johnson is not elite, hes good, nothing more.

G johnson pressure style is made for Joe Calzaghe, look through JCs record and its there.

Calzaghe WIDE UD over Johnson.

[TFFP]

Of course he would sunshine. You mean like he beat Hopkins? What about Clinton Woods? Or like Gonzalez? Or perhaps when he beat Sheika? Glen Johnson is a decent operator, but Joe is many levels above him. Every Johnson fight is a war.

Jesus these Calzaghe haters are clowns. Dawson's problem is a leaky defence, it was far more competetive than it ought to have been.

[Mikey]

Calzaghe never went life and death with Bika, he won this fight quite easy I thought, just that it wasnt a pretty fight and Bika's only chance of succcess was to use dirty tactics which Calzaghe ended up getting engaged in war and didnt look good in the process, but no way was this life and death.

I dont understand why Calzaghe is getting bashed these days, more haters than fans.

[jc]

yeah, Calzaghe mustve won a good 9-10 rounds against Bika... :huh

[jecxbox]

Calzaghe will retire undefeated

[Samurai]

Calzaghe would clearly beat Johnson

[TFFP]

There's a reason Slappy Joe ducked Glencoffe TWICE...because he'd be KTFO and exposed as another Euro hypejob...oh well, I guess BHop gets to be the one to expose him.
You mean like when he lost to that euro bum Woods?

Why did he lose and draw to such a bum, for a guy that can KTFO out of a much better fighter like Calzaghe thats something of an anomaly is it not?

Or how about when he lost to Gonzalez? How the hell couldn't he KTFO that euro bum Ottke?

Wait...this is getting past the anomaly stage. I smell a hater!

Your hate is going to make this sweet :yep

[greengloves]

lets get down to it,johnson is a decent fighter who has seen his best days,he has very very little outside skills and has absolutly no lateral movement,he works angles very well for himself on the inside and can throw great short hooks,however how the hell is he ever going to get these off against a fighter as guile and fast as calzaghe,honesty there is nothing subtle in johnson's approach and his jab isnt really a jab,its more a marker for cutting off the ring,no disrespect tp johnson because he is a great warrior but he is not in the class of the calzaghe.

however saying that,because of the style clashes i think we'd see a better dawson in a fight with calzaghe (id dawson well beat last night) and a more aggressive,however i still feel he gets picked apart all day with counters and lateral movement.

[BIG WORM]

theres only so many punches an old man can take to the head.. hed get stopped. Hopkins is gonna get stopped as well

theres a difference between Euro fighters and UNited kingdom fighters. Europes a different island, its a different place. Europes >>> that way with the russians and the french.. UK is a tiny little place.. its not europe

its like saying jamaicans are all brazilian

[TFFP]

Except for the BHop fight, there's a legit case that all of Glenn's other losses could've been wins (I had him beating Woods every fight); Glencoffe is the most robbed fighter in history. Regardless, the FACT remains that Joe ducked him TWICE :deal

Joe only has a one week stay of execution...enjoy that goose-egg in his loss column while it lasts! :D
Oh, they were ALL wins. That adds up. That almost certainly means he is likely to KTFO Calzaghe...hehe

I'll enjoy the 0. FOREVER. :D

[drvooh]

LOL oh yea what pressure fighter did he excel against?? Sakio Bika showed him pressure but I don't think Bika is really a pressure fighter. So what pressure fighter like Johnson did Calzaghe excel against. Please explain. The former GOD....Lacy and let's see now...Woods beat Johnson...Tarver beat Woods...Joe would beat tarver...YUP you calzaghe hatrs are so smart...I guess this shows for certain that Johnson would beat Joe

[drvooh]

You mean like when he lost to that euro bum Woods?

Why did he lose and draw to such a bum, for a guy that can KTFO out of a much better fighter like Calzaghe thats something of an anomaly is it not?

Or how about when he lost to Gonzalez? How the hell couldn't he KTFO that euro bum Ottke?

Wait...this is getting past the anomaly stage. I smell a hater!

Your hate is going to make this sweet :yep :good

[drvooh]

Johnson is 39 now you all seem to be overlooking this fact if dawson was the real deal he'd have won that fight much more comfortably he is 25.
Maybe dawson is better than calzaghe but he aint no great if he struggled against a 39 year old johnson.
Chad's very good, but not as good as Joe...he'd square up even with Kessler, me thinks

[Imperial1]

Johnson woud be hell for Joe I think thats why he backed out of the fight on more than one occasion ..Lets not forget that Johnson was supposed to fight Joe be he backed out at least twice for bullshit reasons !