The days of the british champs are over.

[Irish Steel]

Hatton,Big Mac, Rees, Woods, Have all tried, and have all failed.

The last man standing is Calzaghe, and he will prevail. But is the Era of british rich boxing over?

[196osh]

:huh

David Haye

[Fat Joe]

There's not much coming through at the moment.

[TFFP]

Hatton,Big Mac, Rees, Woods, Have all tried, and have all failed.

The last man standing is Calzaghe, and he will prevail. But is the Era of british rich boxing over?
Doubt it

Hatton is likely to regain a belt at some stage, he lost a fight he was supposed to lose. He'd be a big favourite against the likes of Torres and Maligfaggi

Mac lost to a Brit :nut

Rees was never anything more than a beltholder that got extremely lucky. He should never have won a belt

Woods just lost

Not sure why people are getting hysterical...

[Cobbler]

Not sure why people are getting hysterical...

Habit?

[MetroMan]

That's the way of boxing. Calzaghe, Haye, Witter are champs, not too bad yet.

Hatton was always going to lose to Mayweather.
Rees was a short term champ and always likely to lose the title to Kotelnik. Tarver is a better boxer than Woods.
Haye proved too good for Maccarinelli.

Witter and Hatton would be a good match.

:yep

[tragicliston]

Isn't Hatton still the champ at 140 and isn't Witter biting at his heels? Enzo Mac, Woods, Rees-these were all second tier fighters anyway. Haye is a terrific cruiser. Whether he'll have any real impact at heavy is another question.

[Hawks28]

Hatton,Big Mac, Rees, Woods, Have all tried, and have all failed.

The last man standing is Calzaghe, and he will prevail. But is the Era of british rich boxing over?

you are aware that Mac lost to Haye, an englishman right? and that Hatton is still #1 at 140? Nothing against Rees, but he was very lucky to win a belt in the 1st place, and I seriously doubt there were to many broken hearted brits when he lost. Wood is decent, but he looked pretty bad on Saturday, IMO, and he just lost to a better fighter.

[David_TheMan]

What the hell is Haye the champ of? He is a Heavyweight now, the champ of crusierweight is USS Cunningham.

The only champs left are Witter and Calzaghe, and Joe C. will be done this weekend.

[rusticraver]

I'm glad we only have our proper champs left.

[BigBone]

Hatton,Big Mac, Rees, Woods, Have all tried, and have all failed.

The last man standing is Calzaghe, and he will prevail. But is the Era of british rich boxing over?
Mayweather-Hatton made the UK public as excited as ever and one loss to the P4P king is just a loss... or a loss to make the British boxing proud as Hatton did everything he could. British boxing over? Hatton, the guy who was knocked out just a few months ago, sold out a soccer stadium in just a few hours, Welsh Joe Calzaghe broke the live attandance record putting in 50.000 in another soccer stadium, Khan is coming strong and Calzaghe has the chance to become an international boxing icon.

British boxing is more popular than ever and Haye is just starting his HW career. That doesn't sound bad at all, does it?

[Cobbler]

What the hell is Haye the champ of? He is a Heavyweight now, the champ of crusierweight is USS Cunningham.


Haye has fought at Cruiserweight more recently than Cunningham has.

He also currently holds the WBA, WBC, WBO and Ring belts.

How did Cunningham get to be 'champion of cruiserweight', sitting around on his sofa crying about how Haye didn't accept his non-existant offer to fight?

[columbo man]

dont forget carl froch!!!!!

[rooq]

Haye has fought at Cruiserweight more recently than Cunningham has.

He also currently holds the WBA, WBC, WBO and Ring belts.

How did Cunningham get to be 'champion of cruiserweight', sitting around on his sofa crying about how Haye didn't accept his non-existant offer to fight?

:lol: true...hayes still the undisputed cw champion until he vacates those titles.

[Irish Steel]

you are aware that Mac lost to Haye, an englishman right? and that Hatton is still #1 at 140? Nothing against Rees, but he was very lucky to win a belt in the 1st place, and I seriously doubt there were to many broken hearted brits when he lost. Wood is decent, but he looked pretty bad on Saturday, IMO, and he just lost to a better fighter.
I know I dont count Haye as english. He wears the turkish flag on his trunks, lives in cyprus.

[David_TheMan]

Haye has fought at Cruiserweight more recently than Cunningham has.

He also currently holds the WBA, WBC, WBO and Ring belts.

How did Cunningham get to be 'champion of cruiserweight', sitting around on his sofa crying about how Haye didn't accept his non-existant offer to fight?

Haye has announced that he his moving to Heavyweight, this means he has relenquished all his Cruiserweight belts. WBA, WBC, and WBO will start having their eliminators for their belts soon enough.

[Pimp C]

I know I dont count Haye as english. He wears the turkish flag on his trunks, and is black.
:patsch

[Irish Steel]

:patsch

I know, :lol: i wasnt thinking. I meant to say lives in cyprus but I had lennox lewis on my mind so I thought Black.

[196osh]

I know I dont count Haye as english. He wears the turkish flag on his trunks, lives in cyprus.

:lol:

[Taylex]

Witter is still champ and I am not sad to lode that bum Rees. Haye is still linear champ until he fights at heavyweight. Khan could be a world champ this year also

[Irish Steel]

:lol:

What? A fighter should at least have some pride in their nationality.

[Cobbler]

Haye has announced that he his moving to Heavyweight, this means he has relenquished all his Cruiserweight belts. WBA, WBC, and WBO will start having their eliminators for their belts soon enough.

He hasn't relinquished any of them. Same as Calzaghe still has belts at SMW despite fighting at LHW this weekend. Pavlik still has belts at MW despite his last fight being at a higher weight. Etc.

[David_TheMan]

Witter is still champ and I am not sad to lode that bum Rees. Haye is still linear champ until he fights at heavyweight. Khan could be a world champ this year also

Haye is gone stop trying to hold on to him, he is the new guy in the HW division right now.

I doubt Khan will beat top level fighters in lightweight, his chin is too weak.

[session9]

I'm new here, am not involved in boxing in any way, and I don't post much (you'll soon find out why), but my uninformed take as an interested observer is this: why would Americans want to dominate all the divisions anyway?

It seems like all the big fights are still getting made there (for reasons that escape me btw), and having more international champions means the sport can attract more audiences worldwide than they would if it was a closed shop.

Reading some of the posts here (the forum, not the thread), more than a few posters don't appear to be too concerned about the future of the sport, and would seemingly rather see it dwindle into a parochial shadow of it's former self than see another nation's fighter win "their" belts.

If boxing were to become a merry-go-round where the same few Americans fight each other for "world" titles, with the occasional foreigner thrown into the mix for appearances sake, the world would probably turn over to something else, as happens with some other US sports that claim to decide "world" titles (with some specific geographical exceptions). I know I would.

I'm sure someone will quote huge PPV figures for some "superfight" or other in response, but those numbers don't take into account the apparently fragile infrastructure of the amateur sport in the US (according to some professional US boxers I've seen interviewed - okay, just one, Evander Holyfield, but I will take his word for it), and the subsequent drop in competitors at grass roots level, attracted to less high-risk pastimes.

People may watch on TV, but in that arena boxing is just one of a number of sports competing for ratings - if the product they're selling stinks because of a lack of participants (or dodgy decisions, or confusion over the numerous ABC belts), the fickle public will no doubt find something else to watch that guarantees both excitement and high standards of competition.

What that has to do with David Haye, I don't know, but the tone of some posts in this thread seem to display the kind of attitude that will hurt boxing in the long run. I do want to see the hometown fighter win, but not at the cost of the enjoyment of the casual spectator, since we probably make up more of the income of boxing than does the hardcore fanatic, especially when factoring in the global TV audience. (I'm just guessing, really, I have no facts and figures to back that up, but it seemed to make sense when I typed it.)