View Full Version : I need help on losing fat!
evalistinho
04-14-2008, 10:00 PM
I weigh 167 pounds exactly and i usually fight around 141(light welterweight) and i walk around 148-150 but i got into an accident and was injured and couldnt train for months and that is where i started eating crap and and doing nothing and got to 167. I want to be able to lose the fat and keep it off and be where i was. Please tell me whats the best way to do it because i am back in the gym and have a small tourney in september and i want to be ready but i feel the fat is going away very slow.
OuterDrake
04-14-2008, 10:58 PM
Buy a body suit bag that rids water weight, eat some oatmeal with lowfat milk.
truepwrz
04-15-2008, 12:45 AM
they did a research back then that slow jogging loses fat the fastest
Buy a body suit bag that rids water weight, eat some oatmeal with lowfat milk.
He said he wanted to lose fat, not water.
Stop eating junk and do regular cardio exercise. 4 months is plenty of time to get in shape.
joekirkbycobra
04-15-2008, 03:12 AM
He said he wanted to lose fat, not water.
Stop eating junk and do regular cardio exercise. 4 months is plenty of time to get in shape.agreed
joekirkbycobra
04-15-2008, 03:14 AM
and have lots of water
OuterDrake
04-15-2008, 05:49 AM
I use to cut weight like this back in my high school wrestling days.But its only
cause I had to cut weight in 2-3 week notice.But if you got 4 months than your boxing training and road-work should work well.
Adaptation
04-15-2008, 11:17 AM
You cant de-hydrate for 4 months. Try to cut on all liquids except water. The key here is calories in vs calories out. Only water 2-3 hours from bed time. Obviously, drop junk food of any kind.
Workout wise, Endurance workout is the key. 45 min+ jogging 4 times a weak, at least 6 punching bag rounds(not full intensity or else you will never make it). Strictly to cut weight, you dont really need a gym(it helps though). Jogging is your bread and butter(ironic i know) of cutting weight. Once you dropped around 140, then you can start working on all boxing workouts and slack the jogging to 2 times a week.
As for not eating crap, a few tricks
When jogging, dont bring any money, so your not tempted on the way to eat crap when your done
If you live with roommates or parents who buy calories intense food(coke, chips), you should put them in a ''forbidden closet'' where only your friends and family are allowed to open. Not that its locked or anything, but its purely mental on the fact that ''i cant open this''.
good luck, and believe me, its not that hard and it dosent have to take forever either. 2 months and you can be done. It leaves you 2 more months to work out the boxing.
Nigel_Benn
04-15-2008, 11:42 AM
Do boxing workouts like hitting the pads and the heavy bag help drop fat?
Do boxing workouts like hitting the pads and the heavy bag help drop fat?
You are moving around and sweating so you are burning calories.
Cutting weight and actually losing weight are two completely different things!
No one should be cutting unless they are desperate and it's near a fight. Just work out and get in fighting shape and worry about what your weight is when you actually get close to getting a bout. No one should be dehydrating if they are trying to train hard and be the best they can be. It's counter productive to your workouts and your fitness, and not to mention dangerous and hard on your heart and your brain.
You should really never let yourself get more than 5-8 lbs over what your fighting weight is in the first place. But if you do, due to lack of discipline, (or injury, in this case) then take the time to get back in shape and actually lose the weight the right way. Then keep it down.
Little_Mac
04-15-2008, 12:17 PM
You cant de-hydrate for 4 months. Try to cut on all liquids except water. The key here is calories in vs calories out. Only water 2-3 hours from bed time. Obviously, drop junk food of any kind.
Workout wise, Endurance workout is the key. 45 min+ jogging 4 times a weak, at least 6 punching bag rounds(not full intensity or else you will never make it). Strictly to cut weight, you dont really need a gym(it helps though). Jogging is your bread and butter(ironic i know) of cutting weight. Once you dropped around 140, then you can start working on all boxing workouts and slack the jogging to 2 times a week.
As for not eating crap, a few tricks
When jogging, dont bring any money, so your not tempted on the way to eat crap when your done
If you live with roommates or parents who buy calories intense food(coke, chips), you should put them in a ''forbidden closet'' where only your friends and family are allowed to open. Not that its locked or anything, but its purely mental on the fact that ''i cant open this''.
good luck, and believe me, its not that hard and it dosent have to take forever either. 2 months and you can be done. It leaves you 2 more months to work out the boxing.
Good freaking post:good
September is not that close, you'll do fine by returning to a normal diet and working out.
rendog67
04-16-2008, 01:23 PM
You cant de-hydrate for 4 months. Try to cut on all liquids except water. The key here is calories in vs calories out. Only water 2-3 hours from bed time. Obviously, drop junk food of any kind.
Workout wise, Endurance workout is the key. 45 min+ jogging 4 times a weak, at least 6 punching bag rounds(not full intensity or else you will never make it). Strictly to cut weight, you dont really need a gym(it helps though). Jogging is your bread and butter(ironic i know) of cutting weight. Once you dropped around 140, then you can start working on all boxing workouts and slack the jogging to 2 times a week.
As for not eating crap, a few tricks
When jogging, dont bring any money, so your not tempted on the way to eat crap when your done
If you live with roommates or parents who buy calories intense food(coke, chips), you should put them in a ''forbidden closet'' where only your friends and family are allowed to open. Not that its locked or anything, but its purely mental on the fact that ''i cant open this''.
good luck, and believe me, its not that hard and it dosent have to take forever either. 2 months and you can be done. It leaves you 2 more months to work out the boxing.
good fucking post! :hi:
MrSmall
04-16-2008, 03:39 PM
they did a research back then that slow jogging loses fat the fastest
Utterly wrong.
Check anywhere that for FAT LOSS, high intensity training is best.
By FAR.
truepwrz
04-17-2008, 12:14 AM
Utterly wrong.
Check anywhere that for FAT LOSS, high intensity training is best.
By FAR.
ummm... from what i have studied at school aerobic training burns around 50% fat for energy, whereas anaerobic only burns 40% fat for energy.
so in comparison anaerobic is better for using energy as aerobic is better for burning fat
housecat
04-17-2008, 03:20 AM
Utterly wrong.
Check anywhere that for FAT LOSS, high intensity training is best.
By FAR.You are wrong. High intensity burns more LBM and carbs. You cut weight faster but you cut much of the weight you want to keep. Moderate cardio with your HR in 120-130 range is best for burining fat. The guy has a long time to drop this weight, best if he does it slowly and not by some quick fix like a rubber suit or running till he drops dead.
You are wrong. High intensity burns more LBM and carbs. You cut weight faster but you cut much of the weight you want to keep. Moderate cardio with your HR in 120-130 range is best for burining fat. The guy has a long time to drop this weight, best if he does it slowly and not by some quick fix like a rubber suit or running till he drops dead.
:thumbsup
MrSmall
04-17-2008, 12:58 PM
Wow, 3 people actually fighting for long runs over sprints for fat loss?
It's been proven over and over, many many many articles on this on the net, HIIT > slow cardio for fat loss!
Look it up.
Basically it comes down to two things.
One, your body is primed and burns calories (MAINLY FROM FAT) for a long time after you finish your exercise, while slower cardio only burns calories during the workout (both fat and muscle).
Think about it - with a sprint, your body is straining a lot of your muscles in the movement. So, it shifts the fat to get better at sprinting.
Long runners - need less weight altogether, so it gets rid of both fat and muscle (to an extent, you won't become a stick overnight or anything).
viru§™
04-17-2008, 01:07 PM
Bullshit. High intensity cardio is around 9x more effective at burning fat while maitaining lean mass.
Its so easy to prove -
Sprinters
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Marathon runner
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Do I need to explain further?
elTerrible
04-17-2008, 01:30 PM
Bullshit. High intensity cardio is around 9x more effective at burning fat while maitaining lean mass.
Its so easy to prove -
Sprinters
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Do I need to explain further?
They must be pretty fast for one legged men.
Adaptation
04-17-2008, 02:07 PM
High intensity vs Low intensity is so vague that one needs to clarify.
Of course High intensity burns more, but it depends on how long you can keep it up. You jog at moderate speed(not moving the arms a lot, not pushing the cardio big time) 1km and walking 1 km, you will lose almost the same amount of cals. Its just pure physics. Of course, the jogging will take WAY less time.
If u have the will to keep up high intensity 5-6 days a week, do it. But if u know you know high intensity will kill u and u will only work out 2-3 times a week, your better off with a lower intensity that you can keep up more.
viru§™
04-17-2008, 02:24 PM
High intensity vs Low intensity is so vague that one needs to clarify.
Of course High intensity burns more, but it depends on how long you can keep it up. You jog at moderate speed(not moving the arms a lot, not pushing the cardio big time) 1km and walking 1 km, you will lose almost the same amount of cals. Its just pure physics. Of course, the jogging will take WAY less time.
If u have the will to keep up high intensity 5-6 days a week, do it. But if u know you know high intensity will kill u and u will only work out 2-3 times a week, your better off with a lower intensity that you can keep up more.
Did you read what I said in my previous post? If HIIT is 9x more effective then you obviously don't need to do it as often. 2-3 HIIT sessions per week is far superior to long distance runs 4-5x a week.
Nigel_Benn
04-17-2008, 04:05 PM
Are many on here saying roadwork is pointless? the method of training countless world champions have used and not to mention long distance running gives you greater endurance in my opinion then sprinting.
Marnoff
04-17-2008, 04:21 PM
Are many on here saying roadwork is pointless? the method of training countless world champions have used and not to mention long distance running gives you greater endurance in my opinion then sprinting.
Anyone denying the value of roadwork does not know what the fuck they're talking about. They've spent too much time reading scientific studies on this sort of thing and less time actually doing it.
Personally, I like to mix in sprints and early-morning roadwork. At the end of my run there is a big hill... I sprint to the top of it as fast as I can. If I still feel jacked up, I'll do it again.
Both sprints and long-distance runs are good for you. Do both.
viru§™
04-17-2008, 04:24 PM
Are many on here saying roadwork is pointless? the method of training countless world champions have used and not to mention long distance running gives you greater endurance in my opinion then sprinting.
When trying to lose fat while maintaining lean body mass, yes.
Vantage_West
04-17-2008, 05:00 PM
High intensity vs Low intensity is so vague that one needs to clarify.
defintly.
low intensity means a non stop but continous approach
th idea is that the work ethic will sweat and wokr out that way.
high intesnsity means a high 'burst' of action and excersise then stop to rest and then repeat.
if there was a middle intensity i would take that. as a lot of movement with some burst and then rest seems to get a bit of both worlds.
just working out means you will get rid of that tire. just avoid wieghtlifting...not becuase it is bad for you (some old school trainers say) but becuase you dont want that extra wieght you already have the muscles your just difining them.
bless :rasta
Vantage_West
04-17-2008, 05:14 PM
Are many on here saying roadwork is pointless? the method of training countless world champions have used and not to mention long distance running gives you greater endurance in my opinion then sprinting.well it's cheap and its better to get that fresh air:D
but seriuosly people are forgetting that you can train your upperbody to a lean machine but your legs will still have a bit more fat...it was a reaosn why joppy was so heavy for a small man. at 5'9 he had a good physique but didnt do that much running.
adrian dodson aswell was a 5'10 welter when he was an amatuer but ran less and became heavier...in the end of his career he was a light heavy (technically a cruiser because he didnt make the 174 limit). point is that he was still had in good shape and didnt look that much different form his amatuer self.
same with me, i have thick legs :hey....that takes alot of my wieght im 5'8 and wiegh at 165 pounds(just wieghed myself i wiegh 170 :patsch)....when i was boxing i used to run 6 miles easy then wieghed 150 odd pounds after light training. and even now im not that fat. it's usually water and fat in your legs, ass and other parts of the body that you dont train much (no jokes here please)
anyways running sweats you lower body and uses your legs basicly. you can do other stuff to help out but running is the cheapest and best way to exercise....it's proven
elTerrible
04-17-2008, 05:43 PM
well it's cheap and its better to get that fresh air:D
but seriuosly people are forgetting that you can train your upperbody to a lean machine but your legs will still have a bit more fat...it was a reaosn why joppy was so heavy for a small man. at 5'9 he had a good physique but didnt do that much running.
adrian dodson aswell was a 5'10 welter when he was an amatuer but ran less and became heavier...in the end of his career he was a light heavy (technically a cruiser because he didnt make the 174 limit). point is that he was still had in good shape and didnt look that much different form his amatuer self.
same with me, i have thick legs :hey....that takes alot of my wieght im 5'8 and wiegh at 165 pounds(just wieghed myself i wiegh 170 :patsch)....when i was boxing i used to run 6 miles easy then wieghed 150 odd pounds after light training. and even now im not that fat. it's usually water and fat in your legs, ass and other parts of the body that you dont train much (no jokes here please)
anyways running sweats you lower body and uses your legs basicly. you can do other stuff to help out but running is the cheapest and best way to exercise....it's proven
So you are claiming that running will loose fat from your legs more so that other areas?:huh
viru§™
04-17-2008, 06:36 PM
well it's cheap and its better to get that fresh air:D
but seriuosly people are forgetting that you can train your upperbody to a lean machine but your legs will still have a bit more fat...it was a reaosn why joppy was so heavy for a small man. at 5'9 he had a good physique but didnt do that much running.
adrian dodson aswell was a 5'10 welter when he was an amatuer but ran less and became heavier...in the end of his career he was a light heavy (technically a cruiser because he didnt make the 174 limit). point is that he was still had in good shape and didnt look that much different form his amatuer self.
same with me, i have thick legs :hey....that takes alot of my wieght im 5'8 and wiegh at 165 pounds(just wieghed myself i wiegh 170 :patsch)....when i was boxing i used to run 6 miles easy then wieghed 150 odd pounds after light training. and even now im not that fat. it's usually water and fat in your legs, ass and other parts of the body that you dont train much (no jokes here please)
anyways running sweats you lower body and uses your legs basicly. you can do other stuff to help out but running is the cheapest and best way to exercise....it's proven
If you can prove anything you just said I'd like to see it. You can train your upper body to be lean but your legs will still be fat? What the hell are you talking about?
If you can prove anything you just said I'd like to see it. You can train your upper body to be lean but your legs will still be fat? What the hell are you talking about?
Sounds like spot reduction :think
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