Am I the only person who thought Margarito beat Williams?

[EpsilonAxis]

Now this was a very close fight, but I had Margo up 7-5 in the end.

I think I gave him 3-5, 7, and 9-11, to my recollection. I just thought that while Williams threw insane amounts of punches, they had no sting, and all the real damage was being done by Antonio.

Obviously it could have gone the other way but I liked Margarito's work better.

[compukiller]

Now this was a very close fight, but I had Margo up 7-5 in the end.

I think I gave him 3-5, 7, and 9-11, to my recollection. I just thought that while Williams threw insane amounts of punches, they had no sting, and all the real damage was being done by Antonio.

Obviously it could have gone the other way but I liked Margarito's work better.

You are totally drunk. :yep :good

[BxN]

I thought Williams edged him but I 6-6 or 7-5 either is fair IMO.

[Speak.King]

You are totally drunk. :yep :good100 times over the legal limit.

[Toopretty]

lol...uhum....lol wow...and more lol...

[brooklyn1550]

I had it 116-112 Williams....Margarito didn't do enough early.

[Cerberus]

The first 5 rounds were all Paul Williams. If you had it any other way, you're lying. That means means Margarito would have to win EVERY round after that to make it a 7-5 decision for Margarito. Rounds 6-11 were cloudy but Paul clearly won the 12th. At worst, you have it a draw.


Just impossible for a sober man to score the fight for Margarito. Not even his wife and mom had him winning..

[markbrooklyn]

Now this was a very close fight, but I had Margo up 7-5 in the end.

I think I gave him 3-5, 7, and 9-11, to my recollection. I just thought that while Williams threw insane amounts of punches, they had no sting, and all the real damage was being done by Antonio.

Obviously it could have gone the other way but I liked Margarito's work better.

Yes I believe you're the only person that had Margarito winning that fight. It wasn't even close dude. I don't know what you were watching.

[sonofdarkness]

Man you are insane!This is what I mean people have to be realistic on here and not be so stupid.Paul cleary won the fight.

[jam26]

Yeah, I think you are the only one. There's no way he won that fight and if he got the decision, it would have been a travesty. And I was rooting for him.

[1lehudson]

Problem with boxing fans is they see what they want to see. Lets break the fight down. One would have to be totally drunk to give Tony any of the first 5 rounds, which at that point would have meant that Tony needed to win 7 of the last 7 rounds to win the fight. Tony clearly didnt win the 12th cuz he only landed about 5 shots, so then the best he could wish for is a draw. Round 8 was Pauls best round of the fight. so that means the best that Tony could do is lose 115-113. And that is pretty much what happened. Those that wanted to see Tony win gave him rounds that he wasnt winning its that simple. But i have never seen a fight that has fans thinking about another fighter so much as this one. This fight has NOTHING TO do with floyd, yet his name cames up right away. Which tells me that Margo fans are more floyd haters then Margo fans, sad, sad state. It also made them put on the hate goggles and judge this fight with them thinking "OH Margo cant lose, cuz then who will we claim that floyd is ducking??"

[Toopretty]

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[Speak.King]

Problem with boxing fans is they see what they want to see. Lets break the fight down. One would have to be totally drunk to give Tony any of the first 5 rounds, which at that point would have meant that Tony needed to win 7 of the last 7 rounds to win the fight. Tony clearly didnt win the 12th cuz he only landed about 5 shots, so then the best he could wish for is a draw. Round 8 was Pauls best round of the fight. so that means the best that Tony could do is lose 115-113. And that is pretty much what happened. Those that wanted to see Tony win gave him rounds that he wasnt winning its that simple. But i have never seen a fight that has fans thinking about another fighter so much as this one. This fight has NOTHING TO do with floyd, yet his name cames up right away. Which tells me that Margo fans are more floyd haters then Margo fans, sad, sad state. It also made them put on the hate goggles and judge this fight with them thinking "OH Margo cant lose, cuz then who will we claim that floyd is ducking??"Up in the studio gettin' blowed, this be the realest shit u ever wrote.

[dyolf82]

I agree you probably are the only person to think margo won... i thought he lost atleats the first 4 or 5 rounds easily then won two and lost another 2 or 3 straight. IU started to respect margo until.....:bart :huh :|

[Sinew]

Now this was a very close fight, but I had Margo up 7-5 in the end.

I think I gave him 3-5, 7, and 9-11, to my recollection. I just thought that while Williams threw insane amounts of punches, they had no sting, and all the real damage was being done by Antonio.

Obviously it could have gone the other way but I liked Margarito's work better.

You may have gone crazy.

[Flatlander]

I didn't get to see any of the fights tonight. I had to work and my wife forgot to set the recorder. From what I have read however. Most people felt that Williams won it clearly.

[IntentionalButt]

No. Antoinette agrees with you.

[HandsOfGold]

I had Margo losing a close fight but he had more than enough gas left in the tank to finish Williams...

[IntentionalButt]

I had Margo losing a close fight but he had more than enough gas left in the tank to finish Williams...

Gas in the tank, but not ammo in the artillery.

[fightking12]

Margarito lost the fight was petty close.

[IntentionalButt]

Margarito lost the fight was petty close.

The second half of the fight was close. The first was full of very clear uncompetitive rounds for PW.

[sues2nd]

Now this was a very close fight, but I had Margo up 7-5 in the end.

I think I gave him 3-5, 7, and 9-11, to my recollection. I just thought that while Williams threw insane amounts of punches, they had no sting, and all the real damage was being done by Antonio.

Obviously it could have gone the other way but I liked Margarito's work better.

No other morons like guerrosoul or whatever his name is thinks it too. Of course I dont think he ever believes any Mexican fighter EVER lost to a non-Mexican fighter....so. Enjoy your elusive company.

Williams beat him soundly. Alot more than the scorecards of the CA judges would lead you to believe.

[Ding]

Problem with boxing fans is they see what they want to see. Lets break the fight down. One would have to be totally drunk to give Tony any of the first 5 rounds, which at that point would have meant that Tony needed to win 7 of the last 7 rounds to win the fight. Tony clearly didnt win the 12th cuz he only landed about 5 shots, so then the best he could wish for is a draw. Round 8 was Pauls best round of the fight. so that means the best that Tony could do is lose 115-113. And that is pretty much what happened. Those that wanted to see Tony win gave him rounds that he wasnt winning its that simple. But i have never seen a fight that has fans thinking about another fighter so much as this one. This fight has NOTHING TO do with floyd, yet his name cames up right away. Which tells me that Margo fans are more floyd haters then Margo fans, sad, sad state. It also made them put on the hate goggles and judge this fight with them thinking "OH Margo cant lose, cuz then who will we claim that floyd is ducking??"

:good :smoke

[Sinew]

Margo tried to bring the heat the second half of the fight. But he kept getting punched in the head.

He did win a few of the much later rounds with a desperate surge to earn a ko.

8-4 Williams.

[kirk]

Now this was a very close fight, but I had Margo up 7-5 in the end.

I think I gave him 3-5, 7, and 9-11, to my recollection. I just thought that while Williams threw insane amounts of punches, they had no sting, and all the real damage was being done by Antonio.

Obviously it could have gone the other way but I liked Margarito's work better. wow.... i honestly couldnt even give it a draw, let alone margarito WINNING m'man.

i think that the only punches that had an effect on williams came around 8, 9, 10, 11.... and most of that was because williams moves so damn much with the punches that i think it appears worse then it is.

sorry bro, but imo, there is no way one could make a case for margarito actually winning more rounds then williams in that fight. imo.

[Sinew]

Maybe 9-3 Williams:think

[kirk]

The first 5 rounds were all Paul Williams. If you had it any other way, you're lying. That means means Margarito would have to win EVERY round after that to make it a 7-5 decision for Margarito. Rounds 6-11 were cloudy but Paul clearly won the 12th. At worst, you have it a draw.


Just impossible for a sober man to score the fight for Margarito. Not even his wife and mom had him winning..

i totally, totally agree.

[dalek]

7-5 margarito who clearly took over the second half for me,i only gave williams round 12 in this period.

[audio101]

Yes your one of the only people that scored it for Margo.

[Martini643]

the fight could have gone either way by a round, i scored the 11th as a 2 point round for margarito which made it a draw

[paulfv]

Doug Fisher said on MaxBoxing that a poll of, I think, 10 writers at ringside, 4 had it for Margo, 3 for PW, 3 a draw.

So you're definitely not alone. I had it 7-5 PW

[paulfv]

Here's the quote:

An informal poll of 11 ringside members of the press revealed that four scored the bout for Margarito, three scored it for Williams, and four had the bout even (114-114). It was definitely not a robbery. It was a close fight, and a darn good one.

You're not alone at all. Just as those who had DLH winning over PBF are not alone.

[sues2nd]

Problem with boxing fans is they see what they want to see. Lets break the fight down. One would have to be totally drunk to give Tony any of the first 5 rounds, which at that point would have meant that Tony needed to win 7 of the last 7 rounds to win the fight. Tony clearly didnt win the 12th cuz he only landed about 5 shots, so then the best he could wish for is a draw. Round 8 was Pauls best round of the fight. so that means the best that Tony could do is lose 115-113. And that is pretty much what happened. Those that wanted to see Tony win gave him rounds that he wasnt winning its that simple. But i have never seen a fight that has fans thinking about another fighter so much as this one. This fight has NOTHING TO do with floyd, yet his name cames up right away. Which tells me that Margo fans are more floyd haters then Margo fans, sad, sad state. It also made them put on the hate goggles and judge this fight with them thinking "OH Margo cant lose, cuz then who will we claim that floyd is ducking??"

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Fucking perfectly put!!!!

[sues2nd]

7-5 margarito who clearly took over the second half for me,i only gave williams round 12 in this period.

You gave the eigth round to Margarito? Were you in the bathroom during the 8th???? Are you insane?

[Slaughter27]

7-5 margarito who clearly took over the second half for me,i only gave williams round 12 in this period.


There's no way someone could have given the 9th to Margarito, just no way.

[paulfv]

Just because you put something in italics that dont make it a quote.

Provide a link please.

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[paulfv]

Let me put it another way: Of 11 people Fischer asked, 3 had PW winning. THREE!!!

I may have listened to Lederman too much and got caught up in the hype; I'll have to watch again like I did with DLH-PBF and turn the sound down. Maybe Margo did get jobbed?

[paulfv]

I just put a new thread up about this. The writers (at least the 11 that gave their cards in an article) slightly favored Margo or a draw over a PW victory!

[Skital]

Some people really have vision and brain problems. I couldn't believe Margarito could think he even deserved a draw, much less thinking he WON. It was laughable.

[Pimp C]

Now this was a very close fight, but I had Margo up 7-5 in the end.

I think I gave him 3-5, 7, and 9-11, to my recollection. I just thought that while Williams threw insane amounts of punches, they had no sting, and all the real damage was being done by Antonio.

Obviously it could have gone the other way but I liked Margarito's work better.
Learn boxing then post.:good

[steven_z]

Now this was a very close fight, but I had Margo up 7-5 in the end.

I think I gave him 3-5, 7, and 9-11, to my recollection. I just thought that while Williams threw insane amounts of punches, they had no sting, and all the real damage was being done by Antonio.

Obviously it could have gone the other way but I liked Margarito's work better.
You're pretty close to being the only one who thinks Margarito won.

[swedeone]

Yes, you are.

The fight was convincing. Williams clearly outboxed, outworked and outshined Margarito. I had it 116-112. If they had given Margarito the decision, it would have beenn absolute highway robbery in the worst form. :yep

[swedeone]

I just put a new thread up about this. The writers (at least the 11 that gave their cards in an article) slightly favored Margo or a draw over a PW victory!


Then they all need to have their heads examined. There is NO WAY... I repeat NO FUCCIN WAY, that Margarito won that fight. It wasn't even really close. ANY honest boxing fan would have scored that at worst 7-5 for Williams, more likely, 8-4 and maybe even 9-3.

Facts are facts. Williams won rather convincingly. :yep

[swedeone]

Some people really have vision and brain problems. I couldn't believe Margarito could think he even deserved a draw, much less thinking he WON. It was laughable.


:good


Agreed, 1000%.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Williams won this contest clearly. He outskilled Margarito with speedy combinations, volume, angles, southpaw stance, height and reach. Margarito tried to rally in the 2nd half but Williams won clearly for my money 116-112.

Margarito strong and tough though he tried to rally in the 2nd half essentially he has his limitations and could not overcome the problems Williams posed.

[EpsilonAxis]

Clever boys, real clever.

I just thought Margarito landed the harder punches in a lot of these rounds.

I gave Williams the first three rounds but after that I thought he lost a lot of his snap to Margarito's body attack. He was throwing all arm punches and Margarito wasn't getting hit with anything. At the end of each round, all things equal, you have to consider "who did the most damage, overall" which I thought was obviously Margarito in a lot of these rounds.

[Mrboogie23]

theres no way Margarito won that fight. he was just simply outfought. Even in the second half when he was trying to make a rally, Paul stopped him.

The closest I can see it 115-113 for Paul. I cant see it being any closer than that. Paul clearly won the first 5 rounds and won the 8th and the 12th.

I dont see it any other way.

[Orishaman]

I had the fight for grabs going into the 12th, and I gavethe 12th to PW which clearly was the offencive and more accurate puncher...115-113 PW..now, Margo figure PW out by the 5th when he started to basically catch PW tippi tap punches(sure they were fast but not with power) with his gloves and countering efficiently....but at the end like I said the 12th was PW's round....

[Olu G. Rotimi]

thats not a skil bozo




Carlito32 you are a prat. Don't call people Bozo because your boy Margarito lost. He tried and I give him credit but Williams claeraly troubled him with his attributes which ultimately try as he might Margarito had no answer for. Margarito lost clearly he and you should take the defeat like a man instead of whining.

[sonny73]

Not really a fan of either fighter but Williams won.I think it was closer than alot of people on here seem to think.Alot of the flurry's Williams threw looked flashy but didnt have any weight or power behind them and were blocked and parried alot of the time by the coming forward Marg.If Marg was able to fight inside he could have won.I was'nt that impressed by Williams he looked good on the outside but I think a clever big hitting inside fighter would cause him alot of trouble.Be interesting to see how Floyd would deal with someone who has the outside fighting game of Williams tho.A poor mans Hearns vs. Leonard.