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Ramshall1
04-15-2008, 07:54 PM
I havent seen anyone give props here to Kermit Cintron.

The dude didnt have to seek a rematch with Margarito but he wanted a chance to get some get back. We all know it didnt work out too well for him but at least he perfomed a little better and didnt break himself down. The kid showed heart and courage and simply lost to the better fighter.

I dont wanna be like other poor fans and say he was overated or overhyped etc etc. I prefer to give him credit for stepping up instead of finding excuses like others have done.

So props to Cintron, I hope he gets his career back on track cause he's still a very good boxer and is fun to watch.

kirk
04-15-2008, 08:01 PM
I dont care for him personally but i totally agree with what your saying, took a heart of a warrior to walk into the lions den a second time... much respect and good thread.

Caliboxing
04-15-2008, 08:16 PM
I'm not a Cintron fan but I give him credit for doing the rematch and at least going down swinging. He hit Margarito with some bombs.

nickfoxx
04-15-2008, 08:18 PM
i don't think anything negative can be said after what kermit showed on saturday, other than that he just can't beat margarito... looking at his body and his frame, especially around his shoulders, i was thinking he might be better served moving up to 154

sugarngold
04-15-2008, 08:20 PM
I see what you're saying - but what do you think of Cintron backing out of his agreement to fight Williams by pursuing Margarito?

istmeno
04-15-2008, 08:22 PM
i disagree with your point that he did not have to do it. if anything because of the way he lost the first fight, he had to at least attempt to redeem himself. but props to him for manning up to the challenge and seeking out the fight

Ramshall1
04-15-2008, 08:36 PM
I see what you're saying - but what do you think of Cintron backing out of his agreement to fight Williams by pursuing Margarito?

If he had ducked AM for a fight with a b-level guy then I would not have respected that but even though PW outpointed AM - lets keep one thing clear. . . AM dished out more punishment on the "Punisher" and held a huge psychological edge over Cintron so the fact that he seeked the rematch gets tons of respect from me and most fans.

joito3
04-15-2008, 08:45 PM
yeah he looked severely weight drained at the weigh inn looked like cotto did at 140 .....

he should go to 154

nervousxtian
04-15-2008, 08:48 PM
I'm a fan of Cintron.

People act like you can't be a fan of fighters that have lost on ESB.. and it's bullshit. Would the same be said of greats like Ali, Louis, Robinson, Greb, Pep, etc.. if the internet and message board haters were around in there days?

Cintron tried, but he just isn't a good matchup for Tony. Whatever, that shit happens, doesn't make Cintron a shit fighter, doesn't make him a journeyman, doesn't make him a has-been or a gatekeeper. It just means he is what he is, and he was a Champ.

No lameass ESB poster can take that away from him hiding behind a keyboard talking shit.

BlueApollo
04-15-2008, 08:49 PM
It was hard in the immediate aftermath, but yeah, I'll give him props. This is one of those moments where we'll look back after the Cotto/ Margarito fight, and realize just what a beast Kermit had the misfortune of running into.

It's not out of the realm of possibility that Kermit picks up a belt before his career is over. I still wish him the best.

Relentless
04-15-2008, 08:51 PM
i was a cintron hater but after i saw that video about him shown before the fight, the one about his mother and father dying, it really touched me, then he goes and gets his ass kicked, he stood toe to toe with margarito for 6 rounds until he got knocked out by a good body shot, i really feel for the guy.

Ramshall1
04-15-2008, 08:53 PM
I'm a fan of Cintron.

People act like you can't be a fan of fighters that have lost on ESB.. and it's bullshit. Would the same be said of greats like Ali, Louis, Robinson, Greb, Pep, etc.. if the internet and message board haters were around in there days?

Cintron tried, but he just isn't a good matchup for Tony. Whatever, that shit happens, doesn't make Cintron a shit fighter, doesn't make him a journeyman, doesn't make him a has-been or a gatekeeper. It just means he is what he is, and he was a Champ.

No lameass ESB poster can take that away from him hiding behind a keyboard talking shit.

good stuff, very well said.

Relentless
04-15-2008, 08:55 PM
I'm a fan of Cintron.

People act like you can't be a fan of fighters that have lost on ESB.. and it's bullshit. Would the same be said of greats like Ali, Louis, Robinson, Greb, Pep, etc.. if the internet and message board haters were around in there days?

Cintron tried, but he just isn't a good matchup for Tony. Whatever, that shit happens, doesn't make Cintron a shit fighter, doesn't make him a journeyman, doesn't make him a has-been or a gatekeeper. It just means he is what he is, and he was a Champ.

No lameass ESB poster can take that away from him hiding behind a keyboard talking shit.

exactly, tony just has his number.

Chileno606
04-15-2008, 09:00 PM
HBO probably nudged Manny Steward to push Cintron to the rematch, knowing that Cintron would be unprepared or incapable of winning. So Margarito looks good whipping him, and sets up a great showdown with HBO darling Miguel Cotto.
Hows that for a theory.

Ramshall1
04-15-2008, 09:06 PM
HBO probably nudged Manny Steward to push Cintron to the rematch, knowing that Cintron would be unprepared or incapable of winning. So Margarito looks good whipping him, and sets up a great showdown with HBO darling Miguel Cotto.
Hows that for a theory.

pretty dumb.

Arriba
04-15-2008, 09:06 PM
If he had ducked AM for a fight with a b-level guy then I would not have respected that but even though PW outpointed AM - lets keep one thing clear. . . AM dished out more punishment on the "Punisher" and held a huge psychological edge over Cintron so the fact that he seeked the rematch gets tons of respect from me and most fans.

How would you have not respected him fighting Paul Williams?

Better yet....how do you respect him after he blatantly escaped a fight with Paul Williams?

I give Cintron tons of credit for fighting a guy he lost and defending his title....but the Williams thing still smells bad to me.

Ramshall1
04-15-2008, 09:10 PM
How would you have not respected him fighting Paul Williams?

Better yet....how do you respect him after he blatantly escaped a fight with Paul Williams?

I give Cintron tons of credit for fighting a guy he lost and defending his title....but the Williams thing still smells bad to me.

My bad I meant to say . . If he had ducked PW for a b level fighter . . .

But he sidestepped PW for a guy with a serious psych advantage so I can look past the PW thing.

I wouldnt be suprised to see him face PW or Quintana down the line though.

Brian123
04-15-2008, 10:07 PM
i was a cintron hater but after i saw that video about him shown before the fight, the one about his mother and father dying, it really touched me, then he goes and gets his ass kicked, he stood toe to toe with margarito for 6 rounds until he got knocked out by a good body shot, i really feel for the guy.

Same here.

The guy has talent and great power. If he feels even a little drained I would say move up and enjoy a decent career. His KO % at WW is 3rd highest all-time maybe he relys a bit too much on that though.

Rock0052
04-15-2008, 11:43 PM
Cintron deserves plenty of props. Even with the loss, it doesn't change that it took serious balls to get in there and push for a rematch considering how the first one went. He may have lost the fight, but he should at least feel good that he went out on his shield and didn't leave anything out there by crumbling mentally like the first time. Hopefully he can bounce back at 154, I think he'd be healthier there anyways. The lack of talent there also means he has a better chance of grabbing another title.

41fever
04-15-2008, 11:45 PM
I havent seen anyone give props here to Kermit Cintron.

The dude didnt have to seek a rematch with Margarito but he wanted a chance to get some get back. We all know it didnt work out too well for him but at least he perfomed a little better and didnt break himself down. The kid showed heart and courage and simply lost to the better fighter.

I dont wanna be like other poor fans and say he was overated or overhyped etc etc. I prefer to give him credit for stepping up instead of finding excuses like others have done.

So props to Cintron, I hope he gets his career back on track cause he's still a very good boxer and is fun to watch.yes, u r right...Cintron deserves respeto for his courage win/lose