View Full Version : Will HBO use Kessler offer 21/6? if against whom?
denilo
04-17-2008, 06:44 AM
Miranda is fighting Abraham - again:happy :happy
In team Palles recent press-release they seemed to know that Kessler-Miranda wouldnt happen.
The pressure on Team Palle to land a decent opponent is increasing. How pathetic it would be if Kessler next fight after all this shit would be fellow dane Mads Larsen! A fight HBO obviously wouldnt approve.
Therefore they announced that Kessler would happily fight whomever HBO wanted him to on the 21. of June.
Will HBO use this offer? If, to fight whom?
BigBone
04-17-2008, 06:59 AM
Team Kessler should call themselves VERY lucky.
Miranda's not just turned down the fight to challange old rival Athrur Abraham (I know, initially it was Kessler who walked away), but he turned down HBO as well leaving a free date for Kessler if everything goes well.
But whom he should fight? I guess Andrade is out of the picture as he's Bute's mandatory. Bute's out of the picture because of injury, a mandatory and the lack of interest of the US public (what a shame). Mundine is out fighting Soliman. Roy Jones is looking to fight Beyer.
How about Jermain Taylor? I know he's looking for a Jones fight but hell, jumping back on HBO as soon as June would be a good move IMO since Jones is going to fight the Hopkins-Calzaghe winner anyway.
If not Taylor, maybe Bika would be a good choice. Easy win for Mikkel but vs. a well known, very exciting name - that would be just good for HBO.
Other names: Fulgenicio Zuniga the great puncher
Allan Green (if he shows up lol)
Club Fighter
04-17-2008, 07:04 AM
Kessler's a cunt who's petrified of Miranda.
denilo
04-17-2008, 07:06 AM
Team Kessler should call themselves VERY lucky.
Miranda's not just turned down the fight to challange old rival Athrur Abraham (I know, initially it was Kessler who walked away), but he turned down HBO as well leaving a free date for Kessler if everything goes well.
But whom he should fight? I guess Andrade is out of the picture as he's Bute's mandatory. Bute's out of the picture because of injury, a mandatory and the lack of interest of the US public (what a shame). Mundine is out fighting Soliman. Roy Jones is looking to fight Beyer.
How about Jermain Taylor? I know he's looking for a Jones fight but hell, jumping back on HBO as soon as June would be a good move IMO since Jones is going to fight the Hopkins-Calzaghe winner anyway.
If not Taylor, maybe Bika would be a good choice. Easy win for Mikkel but vs. a well known, very exciting name - that would be just good for HBO.
Other names: Fulgenicio Zuniga the great puncher
Allan Green (if he shows up lol)
Bika, Good one. Contender-audience-pleasing. But then again still not good enough after all this shit.
I was thinking Taylor or Winky in the realistic options department.
They really fucked it up ! :think
Tom_Tocca
04-17-2008, 07:37 AM
Zuniga...
Djarnis
04-17-2008, 07:56 AM
They really fucked it up ! :think
I agree Palle has acted mindnumbingly stupid in this whole affair. Now Kessler will be desperate for an opponent in June. Not exactly the best negotiation position to be in.
I am wondering could it be that Palle wants him fighting on HBO and not showtime?
And why would he want that?
I really cant see any other reason for this couse of events, other than incompetence on Palles part.
Someone buy Kessler out of his contract....PLEASE:fire
Bodysnatcher
04-17-2008, 10:09 AM
Lacy or Green. Possibly Bika.
Will Miranda and Abraham fight at 160 again? Can Mirand even make 160?
WhataRock
04-17-2008, 10:17 AM
Id like to see Bika above all others. But is he out of the question because his wife is due around then? Im sure I read that somewhere.
Lacy fights in may, but hasnt got an opponant, so he should be an option. Though I got a feeling he wont take it at this stage.
Green is making all this noise about fighting Lacy, so obviously he is available.
Cant forget someone like Berrio, former champ and good fun to watch.
Who is the better name Berrio or Zuniga?
I reckon Jeff might go for someone more grounded and who will stay in front of him, like Sakio, Zuniga, Berrio or the like type of fighter.
So Green vs Kessler is my pick.
WhataRock
04-17-2008, 10:36 AM
WBA ordered that mundine must mandatory challenger kessler in a rematch. Mundine has to first beat soliman but kessler would have to be his next opponent within 90-days. mundine says he has to decide whether it is financially viable or he may go to middleweight and look for someone else like pavlik or abraham.
Which is basically him bitching out. Of course its financially viable, this guys makes millions fighting no name argies.
The only thing here is he gets a smaller piece of the pie because instead of having to pay Kessler $600k, he is going to have to pay him 7 figures in all likely hood. And because Kessler is mandatory, he would have to outbid him at the purse bid, possibly sending to price up way more.
Beating Kessler would give a ton more clout and lead to bigger fights, and therefore bigger money.
You gotta spend money to make money but Mundine is mostly in it for the quick, easy buck.
pipe wrenched
04-17-2008, 10:46 AM
I would like to know what Taylor has done at 168 to deserve a shot at Kessler?? I read countless posts that since Miranda lost 2 time to MW champions and only fought 2 fights at 168 he didn't deserve to fight Kessler. JT has lost 2 fights consecutively to MW champion and not had 1 fight against true 168 fighter, but it's ok for him??
PS- I would LOVE to see the fight though.
robpalmer135
04-17-2008, 11:00 AM
I would love to see Taylor vs Kessler!
Faetter_BR
04-17-2008, 11:17 AM
Well if Kessler has got a deal with HBO, then finding a decent opponent shouldn't be a big problem. Zuniga, Green, Bika or Larsen are good options. As for the origional post I see nothing wrong in Kessler facing Larsen - Larsen is top10 in SMW and a good opponent - he would beat Miranda with ease :)
If Mundine drops the WBA-belt and TeamPalle/Kessler goes for that, then Häussler is sadly the most likely opponent - as he is the highest ranked avaliable opponent... sadly... HBO will proberbly not accept that, but it wouldn't be the first TV-company to be pissed on by TeamPalle ;)
Faetter_BR
04-17-2008, 11:18 AM
I would love to see Taylor vs Kessler!
DiBella said that it was a very likely matchup, but that Taylor would need atleast one fight before facing Kessler - so late 2008 early 2009 you might get your wish :)
BlueApollo
04-17-2008, 11:34 AM
glen johnson :lol:
:rofl:rofl:rofl
Funny yet sad on so many levels.
henrik
04-17-2008, 12:00 PM
pavlik-taylor II was a draw and taylor would have won it if he had had more stamina
whats your point??
denilo
04-17-2008, 12:14 PM
Well if Kessler has got a deal with HBO, then finding a decent opponent shouldn't be a big problem. Zuniga, Green, Bika or Larsen are good options. As for the origional post I see nothing wrong in Kessler facing Larsen - Larsen is top10 in SMW and a good opponent - he would beat Miranda with ease :)
If Mundine drops the WBA-belt and TeamPalle/Kessler goes for that, then Häussler is sadly the most likely opponent - as he is the highest ranked avaliable opponent... sadly... HBO will proberbly not accept that, but it wouldn't be the first TV-company to be pissed on by TeamPalle ;)
I just dont see HBO paying for Kessler-Larsen.
Years ago it was a good matchup I just dont see Larsen doing in that matchup. A mismatch right now could really really hurt Kessler reputation.
Some people believe that kessler versus Miranda/Green/Zuniga would be as well, but at least they would arrive with intentions of burning down the barn:happy :happy :happy
As I said before, I just dont see Larsen doing much of anything at this stage.
Hermit
04-17-2008, 12:20 PM
How about Jermain Taylor?
Well, HBO does have a lot invested in him with previous promotion, so that might work. If he has used his off time to work on his stamina, then I like him in this match up.
denilo
04-17-2008, 12:22 PM
I would like to know what Taylor has done at 168 to deserve a shot at Kessler?? I read countless posts that since Miranda lost 2 time to MW champions and only fought 2 fights at 168 he didn't deserve to fight Kessler. JT has lost 2 fights consecutively to MW champion and not had 1 fight against true 168 fighter, but it's ok for him??
PS- I would LOVE to see the fight though.
Kessler doesnt have a belt, whats that shit about deserving a shot!
No belt fights is about rep and money, if Show or HBO will pay for it, whats the fucking problem?!
Hermit
04-17-2008, 12:23 PM
WBA ordered that mundine must mandatory challenger kessler in a rematch. Mundine has to first beat soliman but kessler would have to be his next opponent within 90-days. mundine says he has to decide whether it is financially viable or he may go to middleweight and look for someone else like pavlik or abraham.
Pavlik and Abraham are looking for each other. Arum has spilled KP hopes to fight Abraham in January and then move up. Maybe Mundine thinks that leaves him an opening with the number of MW moving up recently. Of course he was one of the boys the 168 crowd picked over EVERYBODY at 160, so it is funny to see him move down as they move up.
Hermit
04-17-2008, 12:25 PM
Kessler doesnt have a belt, whats that shit about deserving a shot!
No belt fights is about rep and money, if Show or HBO will pay for it, whats the fucking problem?!
You missed his point. He is twisting the knife of double standards a bit here.
Bodysnatcher
04-17-2008, 12:31 PM
I would like to know if HBO really do have a slot for Kessler in June.
It was obvious from the coverage of Kessler vs Andrade that HBO had a lot of time for the guy, and I read back in the aftemath of the Calzaghe fight in November that HBO had been in talks with him.
I doubt HBO would be interested in any available European fighters - they'll want an American or someone with a raised profile like Contender-winner Bika.
denilo
04-17-2008, 12:33 PM
You missed his point. He is twisting the knife of double standards a bit here.
I know what hes aiming at, but please. I dont really care about that who derserves what shit. I agree that the thought about kessler getting a shot in the 175 division yet blaming miranda is double standard. I wouldnt at kessler getting a shot at 168 though, so far he only lost to the man. If you are obviously 2 in a division and lose to no. 1, then you are still nr. 2 In my book.
HolgerD
04-17-2008, 12:40 PM
Kessler's a cunt who's petrified of Miranda.
I don't think so! He's probably more of a dissapointed fellow that was really looking forward to going to the US and fight Miranda. I guess Kessler now feels like a little boy coming out of a candy store and then somebody comes by and steals all his candy.;)
somerset
04-17-2008, 04:02 PM
I can only think of 2 decent ones - Taylor or.... Lacy
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