Biggest FRAUDS of last decade (POLL)

[thePRESIDENT]

Who do you regaqrd as the biggest fraud of the last decade.

A UK resident here, so please no anti Brit barbs.

[Beeston Brawler]

There is quite a few.

I would have to say the biggest is Sven Ottke.

[rusticraver]

Ottke no contest

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

jeff lacy

[Boxfan1]

Bruce Seldon, but I think that was more than 10 years ago. Well, I guess Mike Tyson during his last 4 fights was a pretty big fraud. He'd say this and that and then wouldn't deliver.

[McGrain]

It's so obviously Audley Harrison. That was a joke. Does anyone remember his pro debut? They played the whole of "Redemption Song" then another fucking song whilst the opponent just stood in the ring shivering. It was disgraceful. Then he does his first post-Olympics interview and he's speaking in the third person. Didn't take long.

Yet to turn in a creditable performance.

[mattress]

Gotta agree with McGrain, Audrey even had me thinking he could make waves in the beginning.

[Holmes' Jab]

Thirded. Harrison no contest. :dead

[Beeston Brawler]

Audley's win over Danny Williams could be considered a creditable performance, but then again, Danny was nearly 20 stone, and some days just doesn't seem there mentally.

Therefore any victory for anyone (bar Vitali) over Danny could be considered tainted.

Sven Ottke for me as I have already said - 20 defences of a strap and was given some of the most ridiculous wide UD's, and contentious SD's/MD's it was almost untrue.

[rusticraver]

Audley's win over Danny Williams could be considered a creditable performance, but then again, Danny was nearly 20 stone, and some days just doesn't seem there mentally.

Therefore any victory for anyone (bar Vitali) over Danny could be considered tainted.

Sven Ottke for me as I have already said - 20 defences of a strap and was given some of the most ridiculous wide UD's, and contentious SD's/MD's it was almost untrue.

To be fair he was olympic champion. Just lacks the balls for the pro game

[Streets_Of_Gold]

I was never fooled by Harrison, I always knew it was just a matter of time with him.

The biggest fraud is about to be exposed. Hatton was always overhyped IMO.
Gunn is another fighter I've always felt was overhyped.

However, the King of the Frauds and biggest hype machine in the biz is Joe Calzaghe. He gets the prize for the longest defense without fighting one ATG in his entire career.
Mind you, I would not be posting this decision had he ever fought a Tarver, Pavlik, Taylor, or a Toney.

King of the Frauds goes to,

Joe Calzaghe and father

[thePRESIDENT]

Kessler,Calzaghe,Lacy,Khan,ottke,Bojado,David Reid

[Boxfan1]

Ask Jeff Lacey and Kessler or JC is a fraud.

[ThePlugInBabies]

calzaghe a fraud?

this place is a fucking joke at times, really. you people need locking up.

[Streets_Of_Gold]

Ask Jeff Lacey and Kessler or JC is a fraud.

I have to agree.
Lacy was one of the biggest Frauds. I have to put Lacy and Kessler side by side with Calzanghe as the King of the frauds. :yep

[bigtime-skills]

Panchito Bojado; and
Hector Camacho, JR
:patsch

[Cobbler]

Isn't it traditional to include a poll when you put 'poll' in the title?

[Nalian]

I was never fooled by Harrison, I always knew it was just a matter of time with him.

The biggest fraud is about to be exposed. Hatton was always overhyped IMO.
Gunn is another fighter I've always felt was overhyped.

However, the King of the Frauds and biggest hype machine in the biz is Joe Calzaghe. He gets the prize for the longest defense without fighting one ATG in his entire career.
Mind you, I would not be posting this decision had he ever fought a Tarver, Pavlik, Taylor, or a Toney.

King of the Frauds goes to,

Joe Calzaghe and father


TARVER PAVLIK AND TAYLOR ?!?!

hahaha

You've just listed 3 B-class fighters on your list which Joe has PLENTY of on his resume.

James Toney on the other hand would have been a tremendous fight, but they were NEVER in the same division - Not even close.

[MancMexican]

This thread as it hasn't a poll is a total fraud

[greengloves]

I was never fooled by Harrison, I always knew it was just a matter of time with him.

The biggest fraud is about to be exposed. Hatton was always overhyped IMO.
Gunn is another fighter I've always felt was overhyped.

However, the King of the Frauds and biggest hype machine in the biz is Joe Calzaghe. He gets the prize for the longest defense without fighting one ATG in his entire career.
Mind you, I would not be posting this decision had he ever fought a Tarver, Pavlik, Taylor, or a Toney.

King of the Frauds goes to,

Joe Calzaghe and father

since when did tarver,pavlik,taylor become ATG,kessler h2h is better than the three of them,you just don't make sense!

how the fuck can we call khan a fraud yet,he had one real dodgy fight and ever since that he has came a long way,a slight but harsh to be calling him a fraud.

if people say that,i'd say sad chad dawson,got his arse handed to him by a one dimensional johnson and didnt show any great skills on the way to winning a controversial UD,for the hype that surrounded him that is fraudulous for me.

audley fucking harrison,what a fucking lunatic.

lacy

[Zakman]

Fraudley and HBO gift-decision collector Jermaine Taylor are the first who come to mind.

[teeto]

Please re-name this thread 'RICKY HATTON'

Im not gettin' into it with my reasons, too many, all the reall fans know im right, im not gunna return to this thread now, cant be bothered with the manure that some will reply to this post.

Im form the North-West of England by the way, so theres no bias here, just know whats right and luv boxin'

[bladerunner]

It's so obviously Audley Harrison. That was a joke. Does anyone remember his pro debut? They played the whole of "Redemption Song" then another fucking song whilst the opponent just stood in the ring shivering. It was disgraceful. Then he does his first post-Olympics interview and he's speaking in the third person. Didn't take long.

Yet to turn in a creditable performance.
totally agree.

[Chiko_Tech]

Ricardo Williams
Joel Julio
Jefrey Resto
Michael Grant

[pit]

jeff lacy

Jeff a Fraud ?!?! this make no since , the guy seek out the best fighter at 168 loses and then get dissed .. :verysad

Boxing Fans =:verysad :verysad :verysad

[PaddyD1983]

Audrey 'Spent Force' Harrison

[Nalian]

Jeff a Fraud ?!?! this make no since , the guy seek out the best fighter at 168 loses and then get dissed .. :verysad

Boxing Fans =:verysad :verysad :verysad

No one else other than that loser thinks Lacy is a fraud m8.

[Killer_Fish]

I don't understand the Lacy part. You can't use his current state as an example due to his injuries and long layoff

[MasterCalzaghe]

Audley
Lacy
Ottke

In that order.

[Outboxer]

Audley Harrison.

People mentioning Calzaghe are idiots. Even if he were to lose badly to Hopkins he still wouldn't qualify as a 'fraud'. His skill is very much for real.

[MetroMan]

Audley Harrison.

[Boro chris]

I have to agree.
Lacy was one of the biggest Frauds. I have to put Lacy and Kessler side by side with Calzanghe as the King of the frauds. :yep


:happy :happy :happy Another retarded, dumb fucking cunt to go on my ignore list!!! Don't worry, you wont be lonely!:thumbsup

[PaddyD1983]

Hector Camacho, JR
:patsch

Is Camacho Jnr rated highly enough to be classed as a fraud? Dont get to see much of him (in or out of the ring) in the UK

[Boro chris]

Otkke for obvious reasons. At least he had some talent however, and the ko of Mundine is allways good for a chuckle.
Audley Harrison, he killed off boxing on the BBC the swine!:fire

[rendog67]

sven ottke

[standing 8]

Michael Grant

[CJLightweight]

fraud of fighters agree audley harrison...

fraud in fights..DLH-PBF, Klits-Ibragimov

[faisal]

i'll smoke ya arse if any 1 mentions prince naz's name

[Taylex]

Sven Ottke and Michael Grant easy winners

[marting]

How in the hell is Ottke a fraud? He accomplished way too much to be characterized as a fraud. Maybe some of the decisions he got were smelly but if he had lost a couple of those and ended up with just another decent record we wouldn't even be mentioning his name in regards to being a fraud.

And if you consider Lacy a fraud then if you're a Calzaghe fan that pretty much makes any claim of importance of his domination over Lacy meaningless in terms of his legacy.

I think I've seen some guys who had no business being in the ring and got there through connections. Josh Cobb comes to mind. He even got a televised fight and what a fiasco that was. He might qualify as a fraud.

Audley Harrison? I don't know if I'd call him a fraud. Overhyped and definitely not what he or his management claimed he would be. I think Harrison thought too highly of himself and that getting a belt would be easy. He learned different.

[joeboxer]

Kessler,Calzaghe,Lacy,Khan,ottke,Bojado,David Reidthe undefeated, unified, p4p Calzaghe is a fraud...and you are not an idiot.(sarcasm)

[C HOP]

Sergio Mora
Clinton Woods
Jeff Lacy
enzo Maccarinelli
Audley harrison


some people may disagree but i would add Wladamir Klitschko, he was all about being the savior of the heavy weight division, got ko by ross purity who was on a 3 defeat losing streak until he fought wlad who was ment to be one of the true threats to the big heavys in the division! look at his record he is quite paded

[daredevil1989]

i wouldnt say calzaghe was a fraud but i will say why has he taken until now to move up in weight when hes recently come out and said himself hes been struggling for years to make 168?? to defend against WBO tomato can mandatories and avoid challengers at 175 me thinks!!

[surreal deal]

calzaghe a fraud?

this place is a fucking joke at times, really. you people need locking up. You dont know your boxing plug.Hes NOT American,and has fought his entire career in Europe,where its much easier!
When you fight in Europe,the gravity and atmospheric pressure is different,making boxing much easier';
Time slows down,punches hurt less,and often a force field materializes,protecting you from damage.Its a doddle.
In America,gravity is denser,punches hurt more,and everything is speeded up.Often the fighters are weighed down with big HBO/SHOWTIME contracts because theyve won 15 fights and are the next big thing.
Its so unfair.

[Ethan Trims]

You dont know your boxing plug.Hes NOT American,and has fought his entire career in Europe,where its much easier!
When you fight in Europe,the gravity and atmospheric pressure is different,making boxing much easier';
Time slows down,punches hurt less,and often a force field materializes,protecting you from damage.Its a doddle.
In America,gravity is denser,punches hurt more,and everything is speeded up.Often the fighters are weighed down with big HBO/SHOWTIME contracts because theyve won 15 fights and are the next big thing.
Its so unfair.

Dont know about all that shit, but there is definitely less competition there then on the main stage that is USA:yep .

Biggest fraud has to be Sven Ottke, bar none.

[Illmatic]

i have to say DM is one nominee for the title. he was a good fighter but look at his record. he didnt deserve 48 consecutive wins. he had some good wins but please... had he fought jones jr he would have retired sooner.

he was the rightful champion and unifier of every world title at 175 lbs and won another world title at cruiser. Far from a fraud.

[rochsolloch]

Vivian Harris!

[kaygb]

Bojado. I kept reading posts raving about this guy and looked forward to seeing him in the ring. When I did I saw a little pudgy guy who had very little talent. Short arms, slow reflexes, no defense and not in any condition a fighter has to be in to make a mark. Bojado is a slow and lazy guy who seems to lack any interest in improving.

[ron u.k.]

I was never fooled by Harrison, I always knew it was just a matter of time with him.

The biggest fraud is about to be exposed. Hatton was always overhyped IMO.
Gunn is another fighter I've always felt was overhyped.

However, the King of the Frauds and biggest hype machine in the biz is Joe Calzaghe. He gets the prize for the longest defense without fighting one ATG in his entire career.
Mind you, I would not be posting this decision had he ever fought a Tarver, Pavlik, Taylor, or a Toney.

King of the Frauds goes to,

Joe Calzaghe and fathername an all time great he could have fought?

[Vantage_West]

Sergio Mora
Clinton Woods
Jeff Lacy
enzo Maccarinelli
Audley harrison


some people may disagree but i would add Wladamir Klitschko, he was all about being the savior of the heavy weight division, got ko by ross purity who was on a 3 defeat losing streak until he fought wlad who was ment to be one of the true threats to the big heavys in the division! look at his record he is quite paded

everyone except audley doenst deserve the fraud marking.

clinton woods was always a tough yorkshire terrier he said it himself he just likes fighting.

mora wasnt that hyped he was just a undefeated fighter who was on the contender...he is a rich man no need to fight unless he wants to

lacy was a good olympic hopeful destroyed robin reid and took on the best man at 168...that is not fraud like...if your blaming lacy for being a fraud on his shoulder injury long lay off and that no one wants to fight him.

and maccarinelli was never thought of as a man to beat haye. he is a good cruiserwieght tall and lanky and can make the wieght easy has one hell of a punch but his skills are a bit weak. he is laggy in the ring and his defence was never that good. good cruiser nothing more.






if i were to say a fraud my man has to be adrian dodson
dodson was a great amatuer at welterwieght. and had all the tools great long jab southpaw right hook and a good left cross. really good boxerpuncher.beat an old honeyghan and wins a intercontinental belt.

fights winky in dodsons home town and awfully got outboxed and exposed as one paced and couldnt mix his defence and offence together.but this is winky wright who most knew was not a bad fighter...so he blames his wieght draining:yep at 154 and goes up to 160 wins a couple of fights and is put in with a real chump called mpush......adrian got beaten SO badly it was unfunny...rematch and the same thing happend again

by then his charm has gone and losses again and again.

where as other guys fight well look good then get better or peak....dodson just seemed to lose for no reason. when winnign fights he would switch off.


any brits rememebr this guy

[Montero]

I would have to say the biggest is Sven Ottke.

NO DOUBT!!!

[ThePlugInBabies]

everyone except audley doenst deserve the fraud marking.

clinton woods was always a tough yorkshire terrier he said it himself he just likes fighting.

mora wasnt that hyped he was just a undefeated fighter who was on the contender...he is a rich man no need to fight unless he wants to

lacy was a good olympic hopeful destroyed robin reid and took on the best man at 168...that is not fraud like...if your blaming lacy for being a fraud on his shoulder injury long lay off and that no one wants to fight him.

and maccarinelli was never thought of as a man to beat haye. he is a good cruiserwieght tall and lanky and can make the wieght easy has one hell of a punch but his skills are a bit weak. he is laggy in the ring and his defence was never that good. good cruiser nothing more.






if i were to say a fraud my man has to be adrian dodson
dodson was a great amatuer at welterwieght. and had all the tools great long jab southpaw right hook and a good left cross. really good boxerpuncher.beat an old honeyghan and wins a intercontinental belt.

fights winky in dodsons home town and awfully got outboxed and exposed as one paced and couldnt mix his defence and offence together.but this is winky wright who most knew was not a bad fighter...so he blames his wieght draining:yep at 154 and goes up to 160 wins a couple of fights and is put in with a real chump called mpush......adrian got beaten SO badly it was unfunny...rematch and the same thing happend again

by then his charm has gone and losses again and again.

where as other guys fight well look good then get better or peak....dodson just seemed to lose for no reason. when winnign fights he would switch off.


any brits rememebr this guy

my old man took me to a card at the royal national hotel in bloomsbury around 99/00 and he was on the card and got dq'd for biting his opponent. fucking hilarious.

[surreal deal]

Dont know about all that shit, but there is definitely less competition there then on the main stage that is USA:yep .

Biggest fraud has to be Sven Ottke, bar none.
My post was the product of afternoon drinking.:D
Anyway i totally disagree.Ive been a fan for nearly 30 years,and have always thought its far easier if youre American,though it used to be far worse before The IBF and WBO.
It was a nightmare for Euros with just the WBC and WBA,as they were mainly there to serve American fighters and promoters.

As a kid,i used to feel really sorry for European fighters;It was-British-European,and around 40 fights before you even got a world title eliminator,while American crap like Johnny Bumphus,Gene Hatcher etc would get one after about 20 fights.
And our fighters were knocking each other off for the world title fight too;After 20 fights A Brit would get British title fight, whilst An American would get world title fight.And they werent all Ray Leonards by any stretch.
I never understood why Euros bothered to be honest,it was all so rigged in favour of Americans.
Sorry just revisiting something i hated as a boxing fan as a kid.

[nervousxtian]

None of these guys are frauds. The only thing close to a fraud in boxing is someone who beats up on 20 tomato cans with no chance, get's a world title fight, get's outclassed and quits.

None of these guys fit that billing.

They all laced them up and got it on with good fighters. If you're in the fraud business, picking boxing where you get your face beat in for a couple 100k might sound decent, until you stretch that 100k out over the 5 to 6 years it will take you to get that title shot.

You'd do better to be working a real job.

Most boxers aren't getting rich, and when they DO get that payday, it's after years and years and years of not making shit.

[Streets_Of_Gold]

Any fighter that sits in a comfy cradle sucking his thumb and not meeting the best while fighting well below his level is a fraud.

[THN]

Any fighter that sits in a comfy cradle sucking his thumb and not meeting the best while fighting well below his level is a fraud.
And you think Kessler is a fraud :nut

[THN]

Maybe you think Miranda is the best,:patsch

[Astola]

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[NBT]

I cannot understand how Ottke was a fraud, even if he had some close fights/robberies or whatever, he still has a VERY credible resume. If some people would actually look at his record for once they'd realise this. So maybe he lost a fight or two he was given the decision for but he still beat a lot of decent fighters.

What exactly are guys like Glen Johnson or Mundine, if they were legitimately beaten by the biggest fraud out there?

Frauds are guys who didn't deliver at all, guys like Fraudley and Grant.

[doug.ie]

he was hyped up a lot once on this side of the water {uk / ireland} and he lost miserably last night...

pele reid.

[Mike T]

Dominick Guinn
Victor Oganov

[Rebel-INS]

Audley Harrison, definitely.

1 million pound deal before he even fought as a pro? Ridiculous, and he was sparked by a journeyman.

[markbrooklyn]

Diaconu by far!