Lets Not Forget That It Was A Great Fight !!!!

[freddy-wak]

nobody got exposed yesterday, NOBODY...paul williams said it himself that the 12th round is what sealed the deal, and really...the fight was hella close...alot of punches were thrown by him but surprisingly, not many landed....margo impressed me with his defense a bit, he was slipping punches and blocking alot of them.....

and dont forget that they had 2 fucken weak ass judges who hadn't scored any notable fights, so my guess is that they got all fucken wet when they seen paul williams throw alot....

much props to williams for hanging in there for the last half of the fight, he really looked hurt and winded in some rounds....that body attack was brutal and not many people would of been able to take all that body punishment.....

but really fellaz, nobody got exposed, it was a close ass fight that really could've gone either way....nobody lost, both of their stocks will go up but again, i think they both will get avoided alot.....people dont fear margo's skill, they fear his heart, balls, and relentless non stop pressure....if he can make a 6'1 fighter run for his life, imagine what he can do to the rest of the welterweight champs......

CINTRON, WOW...really impressed with him and i would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to see him in there with williams......

and gomez, well we'll see how he will do with B level fighters...i would like to see him fight prospects like julio or berto.....

[freddy-wak]

Make Chavez Jr. - Gomez now!

that'll be sick too....

[KillerInstinct]

nobody got exposed yesterday, NOBODY...paul williams said it himself that the 12th round is what sealed the deal, and really...the fight was hella close...alot of punches were thrown by him but surprisingly, not many landed....margo impressed me with his defense a bit, he was slipping punches and blocking alot of them.....

and dont forget that they had 2 fucken weak ass judges who hadn't scored any notable fights, so my guess is that they got all fucken wet when they seen paul williams throw alot....

much props to williams for hanging in there for the last half of the fight, he really looked hurt and winded in some rounds....that body attack was brutal and not many people would of been able to take all that body punishment.....

but really fellaz, nobody got exposed, it was a close ass fight that really could've gone either way....nobody lost, both of their stocks will go up but again, i think they both will get avoided alot.....people dont fear margo's skill, they fear his heart, balls, and relentless non stop pressure....if he can make a 6'1 fighter run for his life, imagine what he can do to the rest of the welterweight champs......

CINTRON, WOW...really impressed with him and i would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to see him in there with williams......

and gomez, well we'll see how he will do with B level fighters...i would like to see him fight prospects like julio or berto.....

You think Gomez could take your boy JCC Jr. out?

I think Cintron is going to be a big threat in the 147 division, Emmanuel Steward is doing a great job with him and after demolishing Mallthyse in 2, the sky is the limit for this kid.

PW vs AM was a great fight as well, 12 rounds of great action and a lot of heart. I was really suprised that PW took all that punishment, especially in the 11th round when AM was beating him up. It's evident that Williams is going to be a bitch to fight for anyone in the future. Can take punishment, great stamina, killer workrate..and being 6'1" helps a tadddd bit. Only guy I see that can beat him is Cotto. Margarito is a tough fighter and I think he should pursue a rematch with Cintron. Cintron may want to avenge his only loss and it gives Marg a chance to get a title and get back in the picture as the "most avoided fighter" in boxing :hey

[brooklyn1550]

It was a great fight and one I would really like to see a rematch. If Margarito can get started a bit earlier, he has a chance to get his title back.

[Jack]

I don't like the way the word "exposed" is used. Williams is a fucking quality fighter, whose only fault was that he was unproven. Last night he proved he can compete with the best. Margarito wasn't "exposed" - he was beaten.

Someone like Litzau getting knocked the fuck out is being exposed. Margarito losing a close, tough fought battle against a great boxer is not "exposed".

Outclassed, probably, but Margarito is still a good fighter.

[Ring Master]

nobody got exposed yesterday, NOBODY...paul williams said it himself that the 12th round is what sealed the deal, and really...the fight was hella close...alot of punches were thrown by him but surprisingly, not many landed....margo impressed me with his defense a bit, he was slipping punches and blocking alot of them.....

and dont forget that they had 2 fucken weak ass judges who hadn't scored any notable fights, so my guess is that they got all fucken wet when they seen paul williams throw alot....

much props to williams for hanging in there for the last half of the fight, he really looked hurt and winded in some rounds....that body attack was brutal and not many people would of been able to take all that body punishment.....

but really fellaz, nobody got exposed, it was a close ass fight that really could've gone either way....nobody lost, both of their stocks will go up but again, i think they both will get avoided alot.....people dont fear margo's skill, they fear his heart, balls, and relentless non stop pressure....if he can make a 6'1 fighter run for his life, imagine what he can do to the rest of the welterweight champs......

CINTRON, WOW...really impressed with him and i would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to see him in there with williams......

and gomez, well we'll see how he will do with B level fighters...i would like to see him fight prospects like julio or berto.....

"Nobody lost" ??? wtf :lol:

so they are both the WBO Welterweight champion?

[Cerberus]

Did anyone catch Arum flipping out after the Williams decision was announced? It was on split-screen so you couldn't tell who he was yellin at but I thought it was funny :yep

[Jose FM]

I don't like the way the word "exposed" is used. Williams is a fucking quality fighter, whose only fault was that he was unproven. Last night he proved he can compete with the best. Margarito wasn't "exposed" - he was beaten.

Someone like Litzau getting knocked the fuck out is being exposed. Margarito losing a close, tough fought battle against a great boxer is not "exposed".

Outclassed, probably, but Margarito is still a good fighter.
Agreed.

[Boom_Boom]

Make Chavez Jr. - Gomez now!

first thing that popped into my mind

even before gatti got Ko'd

[unitas]

nobody got exposed yesterday, NOBODY...paul williams said it himself that the 12th round is what sealed the deal, and really...the fight was hella close...alot of punches were thrown by him but surprisingly, not many landed....margo impressed me with his defense a bit, he was slipping punches and blocking alot of them.....

and dont forget that they had 2 fucken weak ass judges who hadn't scored any notable fights, so my guess is that they got all fucken wet when they seen paul williams throw alot....

much props to williams for hanging in there for the last half of the fight, he really looked hurt and winded in some rounds....that body attack was brutal and not many people would of been able to take all that body punishment.....

but really fellaz, nobody got exposed, it was a close ass fight that really could've gone either way....nobody lost, both of their stocks will go up but again, i think they both will get avoided alot.....people dont fear margo's skill, they fear his heart, balls, and relentless non stop pressure....if he can make a 6'1 fighter run for his life, imagine what he can do to the rest of the welterweight champs......

CINTRON, WOW...really impressed with him and i would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to see him in there with williams......

and gomez, well we'll see how he will do with B level fighters...i would like to see him fight prospects like julio or berto.....

margo wasnt exposed???

so you knew he was a sore ass loser all these years???:lol:

[northend]

nobody got exposed yesterday, NOBODY...paul williams said it himself that the 12th round is what sealed the deal, and really...the fight was hella close...alot of punches were thrown by him but surprisingly, not many landed....margo impressed me with his defense a bit, he was slipping punches and blocking alot of them.....

and dont forget that they had 2 fucken weak ass judges who hadn't scored any notable fights, so my guess is that they got all fucken wet when they seen paul williams throw alot....

much props to williams for hanging in there for the last half of the fight, he really looked hurt and winded in some rounds....that body attack was brutal and not many people would of been able to take all that body punishment.....

but really fellaz, nobody got exposed, it was a close ass fight that really could've gone either way....nobody lost, both of their stocks will go up but again, i think they both will get avoided alot.....people dont fear margo's skill, they fear his heart, balls, and relentless non stop pressure....if he can make a 6'1 fighter run for his life, imagine what he can do to the rest of the welterweight champs......

CINTRON, WOW...really impressed with him and i would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to see him in there with williams......

and gomez, well we'll see how he will do with B level fighters...i would like to see him fight prospects like julio or berto.....

I agree with pretty much what you said here,But I'll stick with my opinion from awhile ago that PBF still boxes circles around Margo.:good

[freddy-wak]

I agree with pretty much what you said here,But I'll stick with my opinion from awhile ago that PBF still boxes circles around Margo.:good

i'm not saying he wont, this was strictly only about last night....i for one never thought margo would blow floyd out, just give him alot of problems....:good

[freddy-wak]

"Nobody lost" ??? wtf :lol:

so they are both the WBO Welterweight champion?

you know what i mean dickbreath, take your head out of floyds ass......it's easy to act like a boxing fan and only back up one fighter...especially one like floyd....

[Mundo]

i thought the fight was great. i completely agree with you freddy. mad props to willimas for taking that punishment in the fight and actually fighting his hear out and sucking it up in the 12th. he knew it was time to close the deal and put a good show.

[freddy-wak]

i'll tell you what though, paul makes floyds balls look like skittles....

[psychopath]

nobody got exposed yesterday, NOBODY...paul williams said it himself that the 12th round is what sealed the deal, and really...the fight was hella close...alot of punches were thrown by him but surprisingly, not many landed....margo impressed me with his defense a bit, he was slipping punches and blocking alot of them.....

but really fellaz, nobody got exposed, it was a close ass fight that really could've gone either way....nobody lost, both of their stocks will go up but again, i think they both will get avoided alot.....people dont fear margo's skill, they fear his heart, balls, and relentless non stop pressure....if he can make a 6'1 fighter run for his life, imagine what he can do to the rest of the welterweight champs......

Yes it was close and yes it was great. No shame for Margo on that kind of loss.

I was really impressed on how Margo blocked incoming punches. He was parring those punches and redirecting it's directions. :yep

[smokey]

margarito actually had control of the fight going into the 12th, after losing most of the early rounds, that shows you what he's made of.

and paul williams sucking it up and producing that big last round proves he's made of similar stuff.

both guys deserve respect, first for fighting each other, and for putting up a great fight
I agree. I thought Williams really showed he had heart coming back like that in the 12th. He had obviously been tired for a while, and his legs were starting to fade. He answered the questions about his chin and heart in this fight.

[Lance_Uppercut]

:nod

Chavez Jr. by 9th round KO.:freddy


Gomez = FTP :yep

You picked Gatti to beat the "contender bum" remember. :deal

[Guru_Too_You]

yup.

All of Floyds die hard fans are so glad Margo lost..they are some how equeating that to Floyd winning....garbage. PW stepped up and closed the show against a fighter who was coming on strong late. Props to him..

Floyd STILL avoided MARGARITO..that doesnt change that. And Floyd will never get in the ring with PW as he is avoiding all of the WW division at the moment.

Sore loser.

[freddy-wak]

floyd WILL fight anybody in the welterweight division..........


















in 5 years when MALIGNAGGI, N'DOU, WITTER, AND D-HOP are there.....

[MrMagic]

yup.

All of Floyds die hard fans are so glad Margo lost..they are some how equeating that to Floyd winning....garbage. PW stepped up and closed the show against a fighter who was coming on strong late. Props to him..

Floyd STILL avoided MARGARITO..that doesnt change that. And Floyd will never get in the ring with PW as he is avoiding all of the WW division at the moment.

:hi:

[charlievint]

nobody got exposed yesterday, NOBODY...paul williams said it himself that the 12th round is what sealed the deal, and really...the fight was hella close...alot of punches were thrown by him but surprisingly, not many landed....margo impressed me with his defense a bit, he was slipping punches and blocking alot of them.....

and dont forget that they had 2 fucken weak ass judges who hadn't scored any notable fights, so my guess is that they got all fucken wet when they seen paul williams throw alot....

much props to williams for hanging in there for the last half of the fight, he really looked hurt and winded in some rounds....that body attack was brutal and not many people would of been able to take all that body punishment.....

but really fellaz, nobody got exposed, it was a close ass fight that really could've gone either way....nobody lost, both of their stocks will go up but again, i think they both will get avoided alot.....people dont fear margo's skill, they fear his heart, balls, and relentless non stop pressure....if he can make a 6'1 fighter run for his life, imagine what he can do to the rest of the welterweight champs......

CINTRON, WOW...really impressed with him and i would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to see him in there with williams......

and gomez, well we'll see how he will do with B level fighters...i would like to see him fight prospects like julio or berto.....

I think it was a GOOD fight but it was a clear win for Williams. His work rate and angles kept Margo off balance and unable to mount any kind of serious offense until the later rounds.

I gave Margo 4 rounds...5 at best due to the impact the few punches he landed really did damage....All of Pauls punches didn't do that much damage although he completely out worked Margo.

I think a rematch would be a better fight for Margo but would ultimately loose due to the workrate of Paul yet again. Margo just couldn't do enough of body work to win majority of the rounds, but he did his best. Paul is just the better fighter with more tools.

I really dont think Williams ran at all...aside from the 3rd or 4th round where he hopped on his bike fore 2 seconds just to re-set. Anytime that Paul was "RUNNING" he was throwing puches and pivoting to get angles for better shots. Running would be what Cheriff did against Bhop or what DLH did against Tito in the last rounds of their fight or what Floyd did with DLH majority of their fight.

Cintron did impress...I knew he'd win by KO...but not like that. He showed a lot of improvment and power. Emauel did a good job with his training. I think Williams would beat Cintron by UD or late stoppage.

Gomez impressed me as well...I think he's going to do well...is or will he be elite?? Don't know...I do think he could take JCC Jr....but I'm not confident until I see Gomez in there with a better fighter than a old and small Gatti.

[freddy-wak]

I think it was a GOOD fight but it was a clear win for Williams. His work rate and angles kept Margo off balance and unable to mount any kind of serious offense until the later rounds.

I gave Margo 4 rounds...5 at best due to the impact the few punches he landed really did damage....All of Pauls punches didn't do that much damage although he completely out worked Margo.

I think a rematch would be a better fight for Margo but would ultimately loose due to the workrate of Paul yet again. Margo just couldn't do enough of body work to win majority of the rounds, but he did his best. Paul is just the better fighter with more tools.

I really dont think Williams ran at all...aside from the 3rd or 4th round where he hopped on his bike fore 2 seconds just to re-set. Anytime that Paul was "RUNNING" he was throwing puches and pivoting to get angles for better shots. Running would be what Cheriff did against Bhop or what DLH did against Tito in the last rounds of their fight or what Floyd did with DLH majority of their fight.

Cintron did impress...I knew he'd win by KO...but not like that. He showed a lot of improvment and power. Emauel did a good job with his training. I think Williams would beat Cintron by UD or late stoppage.

Gomez impressed me as well...I think he's going to do well...is or will he be elite?? Don't know...I do think he could take JCC Jr....but I'm not confident until I see Gomez in there with a better fighter than a old and small Gatti.


i get what your saying, i guess it comes down to what you like....of course i like a high work rate, but alot of those punches were not landing.....and if floyd gets rounds for his defense, where was margo's love....paul threw over 1200 punches and only landed 200....

how do you think gomez would do against berto or julio.....

[charlievint]

i get what your saying, i guess it comes down to what you like....of course i like a high work rate, but alot of those punches were not landing.....and if floyd gets rounds for his defense, where was margo's love....paul threw over 1200 punches and only landed 200....

how do you think gomez would do against berto or julio.....

Margo did catch a lot of Williams punches, but he was still the more active fighter. Tony actually impressed me with his defense. It was surprising that Margo wasn't able to be as active as he normally is.....A lot of that was due to the fact Williams was just constantly throwing punches and not giving Margo a chance to get his rythm.....I will say this....IF Margo was able to up his work rate he would have beaten Williams. The punch stats that he put out was extremely low for him.

I actually think Gomez beats Juio pretty easily....Julio is a decent boxer with a lot of power, but Gomez is a better boxer than I had given him credit for. He's actually solid. I mean...he was leading off with straight rights...that's a thing that you only see in guys that are REALLY fast like Floyd or a prime Jones Jr.....Gomez has a lot of balls and he getting better. Julio reminds me of Trinidad, just not as powerful and technically solid, but like Trini...he had trouble with GOOD boxers.

Berto is too fast, strong and skilled for Gomez in My opinion although I think that would be Berto's toughest fight to date. I don't think it will be a mauling at the hands of Berto, but I think he wins clearly if it doesn't end by KO first.

[MrMagic]

Props to Margarito for fighting a war.
I still don't see why mexicans don't go crazy about Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz.. this kid has got it all, he's young, he's hungry.. he's unifying the titles and he's got a good resume already!

Juan Diaz is the mexican to look out for :happy

[freddy-wak]

Props to Margarito for fighting a war.
I still don't see why mexicans don't go crazy about Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz.. this kid has got it all, he's young, he's hungry.. he's unifying the titles and he's got a good resume already!

Juan Diaz is the mexican to look out for :happy

I'VE been saying so since his FRIDAY NIGHT FIGHT DAYS

[MrMagic]

I'VE been saying so since his FRIDAY NIGHT FIGHT DAYS
This kid is going to be the undisputed, undefeated LW king of the world.
I'm getting really amped about this kid, he's got it all!

[BewareofDawg]

Great fight. Both fighters' stock rose in my opinion. But one thing is real clear now......PBF would be a nightmare for Margarito. His speed would be waaaay too much for him. PBF is also alot more experienced, conditioned, skilled and better than Williams so Margo would most likely have no chance of wearing him down either.

PBF would stop or UD him in a very one-sided fight....no doubt.

[charlievint]

Great fight. Both fighters' stock rose in my opinion. But one thing is real clear now......PBF would be a nightmare for Margarito. His speed would be waaaay too much for him. PBF is also alot more experienced, conditioned, skilled and better than Williams so Margo would most likely have no chance of wearing him down either.

PBF would stop or UD him in a very one-sided fight....no doubt.

I think Floyd would beat Margo too, but I have to say PAUL's PUNCH OUT PUT won this fight for him....His speed too...but moreso his punch volume was the difference.

I KNOW floyd couldn't match Pauls Punch output and If Margo is able to apply more pressure on Floyd than he was able to do with Williams this past Saturday...who knows...We could witness Floyd buckling under Antonio's pressure fighting...I'm sure Floyd would make a few OUTSTANDING offenseive counters throughout the fight, showing us why he's the most talented and skilled fighter in our era, but Pressure can bust pipes and JLC and DLH proved Floyd can be beated with pressure.

Edge still in favor of Floyd, but Margo actually gave me MORE reasons to believe in Antonio.

[Villain]

I am not Margo fanatic, but styles make fights.

Margo got out boxed by a genetic freak. He didn't get beat up, but a good boxer with that height, reach, workrate, and stamina is just wrong for his style. It would be wrong for a lot of guys.

Doesn't mean anything about Margo against the other top guys as none of them are a Williams kind of fighter. Margo is still a game threat to any of the other guys.

[Villain]

I think Floyd would beat Margo too, but I have to say PAUL's PUNCH OUT PUT won this fight for him....His speed too...but moreso his punch volume was the difference.

It was a combination of output plus using his huge height and reach effectively. Margo could not match the work rate because he could barley get in range.

Other guys like Floyd would not have that advantage. Not that Floyd could not beat him, but it would have to be in a different way.

[charlievint]

It was a combination of output plus using his huge height and reach effectively. Margo could not match the work rate because he could barley get in range.

Other guys like Floyd would not have that advantage. Not that Floyd could not beat him, but it would have to be in a different way.

I agree...Physically Williams had tremendous advantages against Margo and he faught the perfect fight....Floyd has other attributes like Natural TALENT (Speed, Reflexes ect) that most fighters don't have, but a guy like Margo has the relentless style that can quickly overshadow speed and take reflexes away after a few rounds of continuous pressure.

If Williams was as in shape or wasn't able to produce those kinds of Punch numbers Margo would still be WBO champ. Like I said...I can't ever go agaisnt Floyd, but I give Margo a lot better chance than most would.