View Full Version : I was at ringside. Trust me, Williams won.
BoxingGuru
07-15-2007, 03:14 PM
All it takes is being at the fight and hearing the pro-Margarito crowd being silenced over and over again.
It was funny as hell.
Williams dominated Margarito. While at the fight me and everyone around me were talking about how we wouldn't give Margarito more than 3 rounds of that fight. :lol:
doublesuited
07-15-2007, 03:16 PM
I guess this must settle it then.
Hadrian
07-15-2007, 03:22 PM
even on tv i had it 9-3 williams.
pipe wrenched
07-15-2007, 03:24 PM
Williams won, not hard to see. ROBBERY would have been if they gave it to Margo.
BoxingGuru
07-15-2007, 03:37 PM
Williams won, not hard to see. ROBBERY would have been if they gave it to Margo.
Agreed. 95 percent of the crowd or more was for Margarito and beileve me. The only cheered 1 round of the fight. The only good round Margarito had.
The rest of the time they were silenced.
MrMagic
07-15-2007, 03:40 PM
Williams won big.
I can't believe some of these guys saying Margo won or atleast got a draw? :huh
They must know nothing about boxing...
BoxingGuru
07-15-2007, 03:41 PM
Williams won big.
I can't believe some of these guys saying Margo won or atleast got a draw? :huh
They must know nothing about boxing...
The two 115-112 scores were the robbery. The 117 score for Williams, that was the CORRECT score.
achillesthegreat
07-15-2007, 03:43 PM
If you are anywhere but the judges seat, you immediately begin to lose clarity on what went down. On TV or in the judges seat you can see and hear everything. You start going back and you lose clarity!
ChampionsForever
07-15-2007, 03:46 PM
Unfortunatley I gave the fight to Williams by atleast 4 rounds.
getup
07-15-2007, 04:03 PM
easy fight to score..,hey UD MFERS!
achillesthegreat
07-15-2007, 04:04 PM
What are you talking about you fucking freak. Quit butchering the English language.
Interesting as to who it is who is butchering the English language.
What I wrote speaks for itself. Read it and try and digest it you cunt.
achillesthegreat
07-15-2007, 04:04 PM
I think Margo's nutsack is ruining your clarity.
I haven't seen the fight you prick.
kasabian19
07-15-2007, 04:05 PM
Watched it live and had it 9-3 williams, possibly 8-4. Williams won by a clear majority. You must be ray charles if you had it any closer than 7-5.
Mrboogie23
07-15-2007, 04:11 PM
I cant see anything closer then 7-5 williams. I personally had it 8-4 williams.
Theres no way Margarito won that fight. Anyone saying so is either extremely biased or blind.
achillesthegreat
07-15-2007, 04:20 PM
you made no sense. try explaining what you said. you said when you go back you startlsogin clarity? go back where..?..you fuck up
As I said, if you are sitting anywhere but the judges seat you begin to lose more and more clarity as you go back.
Now by anywhere, I obviously mean in the stadium. I can't mean sitting at home because I explained you have a good view there. Did you think I meant sitting on the roof or some shit?
It was a general response to people who start the threads 'I was there, this and this happened'. As if being there makes them more credible. Odds on they were not ringside, in the corner or in the judges seat.
unitas
07-15-2007, 04:20 PM
easy as pie.........williams won by 4 points.
BeReal
07-15-2007, 04:29 PM
It's easier for Margarito to scream robbery in hopes people might believe it since he threw away his big payday vs. Cotto. Although, I read Arum still wants Cotto/Margarito so we still might get it. But yes, Williams CLEARLY won.
BoxingGuru
07-15-2007, 04:45 PM
If you are anywhere but the judges seat, you immediately begin to lose clarity on what went down. On TV or in the judges seat you can see and hear everything. You start going back and you lose clarity!
Disagree. I went home and watched the fight and me and my girlfriend both agreed, Margarito got 2 rounds and 1 generous gift round for showing up. Besides that, Williams made him look like exactly what he turned out to be. An overhyped fighter that FMJ would have destroyed.
hitman_hatton1
07-15-2007, 11:04 PM
It's easier for Margarito to scream robbery in hopes people might believe it since he threw away his big payday vs. Cotto. Although, I read Arum still wants Cotto/Margarito so we still might get it. But yes, Williams CLEARLY won.
it was a stupid fight to take.
he got a good payday.
but the cotto payday would have eclipsed it.
margo gave his all though and u can't ask for much more than that.
oblate
07-16-2007, 12:55 AM
Williams won, not hard to see. ROBBERY would have been if they gave it to Margo.
a draw would also be a robbery. williams clearly won the fight.
Proud Warrior
07-16-2007, 03:29 PM
Williams won its that simple,first time i have seen Margo fight and was not impressed,A very poor mans Hatton i thought,if you gonna fight on the inside like that you cant be a slow starter.This is just my opinion because like i said it was my first view of him.
justaboxingfan
07-16-2007, 03:44 PM
I watched the fight and had it 9-3 for williams. what really surprised me was when i read only 4 boxing writers scored it for Williams out of 13 i believe(?) Can someone tell me where that one came from? and who are these writers working for by the way?
paulfv
07-16-2007, 03:47 PM
I watched the fight and had it 9-3 for williams. what really surprised me was when i read only 4 boxing writers scored it for Williams out of 13 i believe(?) Can someone tell me where that one came from? and who are these writers working for by the way?
Here you go:
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Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: Margarito, 116-112
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: Draw, 114-114
Steve Springer, Los Angeles Times: Draw, 114-114
Bill Dwyre, Los Angeles Times: Margarito, 115-113
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: Margarito, 115-113
Doug Fischer, MaxBoxing.com: Margarito, 115-113
Jerry Magee, San Diego Union-Tribune: Williams,
116-112
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: Williams,
115-113
Carlos Arias, Orange County Register: Williams,
115-113
David Avila, Riverside Press Enterprise: Draw, 114-114
Francisco Salazar, Fightnews.com: Draw, 114-114
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Ok, let's add those up:
Margo Win --- 4
Draw --------- 4
PW Win ------ 3
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C Money
07-16-2007, 04:00 PM
Here you go:
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Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: Margarito, 116-112
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: Draw, 114-114
Steve Springer, Los Angeles Times: Draw, 114-114
Bill Dwyre, Los Angeles Times: Margarito, 115-113
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: Margarito, 115-113
Doug Fischer, MaxBoxing.com: Margarito, 115-113
Jerry Magee, San Diego Union-Tribune: Williams,
116-112
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: Williams,
115-113
Carlos Arias, Orange County Register: Williams,
115-113
David Avila, Riverside Press Enterprise: Draw, 114-114
Francisco Salazar, Fightnews.com: Draw, 114-114
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Ok, let's add those up:
Margo Win --- 4
Draw --------- 4
PW Win ------ 3
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WTF is it with you and this list?? It's meaningless and 3 of the 4 that had Marg winning are MAX related and biased, which leaves 1 lone cowboy riding Marg's jock.
MARGARITO DID NOT WIN THAT FIGHT
It wasnt a draw either!! 115-113 is Williams is as gracious as one can honestly be towards Marg, On my card?? Its more 116-112 Williams.
You wanna believe Marg won?? Fine, but repeatedly posting this BS list of what ceratin "boxing writers" think is fucking MEANINGLESS especially when 3 of the 4 not only had Marg Pom Pom's, but the on record bias over the last 5 years at least to match. The bottomline is Margarito got outworked and LOST!!! Quit attempting to make fucking excuses or suspicions around a decision that was CLEAR, with this list.
justaboxingfan
07-16-2007, 04:01 PM
Here you go:
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Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: Margarito, 116-112
Tim Smith, New York Daily News: Draw, 114-114
Steve Springer, Los Angeles Times: Draw, 114-114
Bill Dwyre, Los Angeles Times: Margarito, 115-113
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: Margarito, 115-113
Doug Fischer, MaxBoxing.com: Margarito, 115-113
Jerry Magee, San Diego Union-Tribune: Williams,
116-112
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: Williams,
115-113
Carlos Arias, Orange County Register: Williams,
115-113
David Avila, Riverside Press Enterprise: Draw, 114-114
Francisco Salazar, Fightnews.com: Draw, 114-114
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Ok, let's add those up:
Margo Win --- 4
Draw --------- 4
PW Win ------ 3
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thanks for the list:good I still find it hard to believe this bull**** some of these guys are well known writers. My guess is they were either :zzz or :cannabis
C Money
07-16-2007, 04:05 PM
thanks for the list:good I still find it hard to believe this bull**** some of these guys are well known writers. My guess is they were either :zzz or :cannabis
Kim and Fischer are Max and Spicoli Iole has written over there and his stance is likely kiss ass related to keep in good graces.
Marg didnt win and the bias for him is more than proven over the years at MB.
paulfv
07-16-2007, 04:22 PM
WTF is it with you and this list??
The poster asked about the list, and I provided it. Do you understand that?
I'm sorry that only 3 of those 11 writers felt Paul Williams won. They're not my opinions, they are the opinions of professional boxing writers.
C Money
07-16-2007, 04:40 PM
The poster asked about the list, and I provided it. Do you understand that?
I'm sorry that only 3 of those 11 writers felt Paul Williams won. They're not my opinions, they are the opinions of professional boxing writers.
Ok.. I didnt read where someone asked for it, perhaps I jumped the gun. My apologies.
Yet, in fairness and reality 3 of the 4 who had him winning are biased and on record as such. The "list" isnt meaningful in any way but to expose those biased for Marg. As the overwhelming majority of fans and the THREE JUDGES who's votes counted clearly saw.
paulfv
07-16-2007, 04:45 PM
Ok.. I didnt read where someone asked for it, perhaps I jumped the gun. My apologies.
Yet, in fairness and reality 3 of the 4 who had him winning are biased and on record as such. The "list" isnt meaningful in any way but to expose those biased for Marg. As the overwhelming majority of fans and the THREE JUDGES who's votes counted clearly saw.
It's all good. :)
I had Williams winning when I scored it, 7-5.
Paul Williams showed he's for real, there's no doubt about that. He showed smarts, chin, heart, and workrate. I give him full props for all of that.
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