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ChampionsForever
07-15-2007, 03:57 PM
I made the sin of underestimating this guy and picked a MArgo win but no matter what some people say he lost a clear decision, the guy is a freak he has every physical advantage against anybody under middleweight, he has great stamina, a decent jab throws hundreds of punchs per round and is quick. People are picking him over PBF, Hatton and Cotto and I dont know how the 5'8 SSM would do against him.

Who can beat this guy?? Maybe DLH would have a decent chance but I dont think Williams is a big enough name for that fight to ever come off. Who can beat him and how??

kasabian19
07-15-2007, 04:02 PM
Floyd would defo struggle against williams, as would every other welterweight. Infighting has to be the only way to beat him, which im sure cotto/de la hoya could do - hatton possibly but williams is to be big for him i reckon. They would take a lot of punishment on the way in but could pull it off - he has a good jab + jab/cross combo with fast hands and seems to have decent stamina so whoever he fought it would make for a very interesting fight! I look forward to seein who he fights next!

Rumsfeld
07-15-2007, 04:04 PM
I'll take Mosley or Cotto against him.

:smoke

LeadLeftHook
07-15-2007, 04:04 PM
I think Williams is unbeatable right now at 147. Hes got an amazing work work rate one the reasons is because his punches are so effortless. I think Williams has what it takes to beat Mayweather, the speed, work rate , reach, a decent footwork and ofcourse the hunger.

sandwichsurgeon
07-15-2007, 04:05 PM
I think Cotto would have the best chance because he hits so hard and that lanky frame of Williams must have it's disadvantages in terms of body resistance, luckily for the rest i doubt he will stick at that weight as taller fighters tend to have to move up.

unitas
07-15-2007, 04:08 PM
floyd surely would be favoured, but hed have a nightmarish struggle with him, due to williams size.

cotto would surely have a shot with his vicious bodypunches.......and he is a more precise hitter than margo.

cintron would make it interesting with his punch and size..........could be the most fun fight. but i pick williams by ko in eight.

mosley....forget it. too old.

hatton.........no way in hell.

H .
07-15-2007, 04:09 PM
Mosley has a problem with fighters that have a good reach (Forrest, Wright) so I wouldn't pick him. I'd say Mayweather and Cotto though.

Ambition_Def
07-15-2007, 04:09 PM
I still like Margarito to beat him, but only if he matches Williams punch for punch. He can't play defense for 6 rounds like he did last night.

I would pick Williams to beat Cotto. I just don't see a smaller guy like Cotto who has to plant his feet to throw really hurting even catching Williams.

I'd make Cintron a heavy favorite as I think his technique is much better than Margarito and his power his crushing. It'd be interesting though.

I'd make Shane a heavy underdog against Williams because Shane is 35 and his legs will betray him soon. He'd have to lunge alot and rely on diminishing speed to even hit Williams. A real daunting task that there.

Mayweather would have the speed to give Paul a go but Paul isn't stupid. He knows he can't box with Mayweather so yea. Paul would be a favorite there too imo.

David Tua
07-15-2007, 04:12 PM
Zab Judah by wide points decision

brooklyn1550
07-15-2007, 04:12 PM
Cotto

Rumsfeld
07-15-2007, 04:27 PM
Zab Judah by wide points decision

Maybe...

jonesjrp4p1
07-15-2007, 04:28 PM
i dont think anyone could honestly beat him imo

floyd.........couldnt counter punch and pot shot him
marg.........already know
cotto........he wouldnt be able to get inside all that easy and if he did williams would hold for the 1st 8 rounds
shane.......never done good against the bigger guys(vernon forrest type)

i just dont think anyone could beat him

Tko4
07-15-2007, 04:54 PM
I think Cotto would break his ribs and Floyd would find a way to win. Floyd's got too much talent, and Cotto's too relentless. Williams doesn't have the power to keep Cotto off him, and a Miguel Cotto body attack would wreak havoc on that huge midsection. Margarito was stunning him with shots to the body, and Margarito wasn't attacking it half as hard as Cotto would. As for Floyd...the guy's just got too much talent. I don't care how tall Williams is or how many punches he throws. None of that matters when the guy you're fighting is a defensive master who is all but impossible to hit cleanly.

Rock0052
07-15-2007, 04:58 PM
I honestly think Cintron knocks him out. It would be a great fight, but Kermit brings too much firepower to the dance and is probably the worst style matchup for PW.

Cintron by mid-round KO.

codeman99998
07-15-2007, 05:00 PM
Pretty Boy Floyd doesn't lose to Paul Williams. Floyd has ALWAYS found a way to win.

Ring Master
07-15-2007, 05:00 PM
I think Cintron could Kayo Williams and PBF would counter him silly.

Tko4
07-15-2007, 05:02 PM
I think Cintron/Williams is the fight to make, honestly. Let both these guys duke it out for the rights to be mentioned in the same breath as PBF, Mosley and Cotto.

CASH_718
07-15-2007, 05:04 PM
I think Cotto would break his ribs and Floyd would find a way to win. Floyd's got too much talent, and Cotto's too relentless. Williams doesn't have the power to keep Cotto off him, and a Miguel Cotto body attack would wreak havoc on that huge midsection. Margarito was stunning him with shots to the body, and Margarito wasn't attacking it half as hard as Cotto would. As for Floyd...the guy's just got too much talent. I don't care how tall Williams is or how many punches he throws. None of that matters when the guy you're fighting is a defensive master who is all but impossible to hit cleanly.Wow what a prediction.:patsch

CASH_718
07-15-2007, 05:06 PM
I think Cintron could Kayo Williams and PBF would counter him silly.How??? Williams doesn't reach with his shots.

Williams has a 10in reach advantage and a 7in height advantage over Mayweather..... Kinda hard to counter someone so big.

CASH_718
07-15-2007, 05:06 PM
Pretty Boy Floyd doesn't lose to Paul Williams. Floyd has ALWAYS found a way to win.And he's never fought Paul Williams.

Tko4
07-15-2007, 05:10 PM
How??? Williams doesn't reach with his shots.

Williams has a 10in reach advantage and a 7in height advantage over Mayweather..... Kinda hard to counter someone so big.

Pretty sure it's a 5 inch height advantage. And you say it's kind of hard to counter someone so big, yet I don't recall Diego Corrales being a little midget. And he had way more power than Williams. So, yeah, Floyd's got the speed and reflexes to win against a bigger opponent. If you'd hop off William's nuts for a second, you'd see that he's got a ways to go before he's ready to tangle with the P4P best. I'm not even a Floyd fan, but there's no denying he's unbelievably talented.

brooklyn1550
07-15-2007, 05:11 PM
Mayweather would hit him with some accurate counterpunches, but the activity level of Williams and his height would be damn hard to overcome. The guy just doesn't stop and unlike Corrales when he fought Mayweather, Williams would be throwing 90-100 punches a round.

CASH_718
07-15-2007, 05:12 PM
Pretty sure it's a 5 inch height advantage. And you say it's kind of hard to counter someone so big, yet I don't recall Diego Corrales being a little midget. And he had way more power than Williams. So, yeah, Floyd's got the speed and reflexes to win against a bigger opponent. If you'd hop off William's nuts for a second, you'd see that he's got a ways to go before he's ready to tangle with the P4P best. I'm not even a Floyd fan, but there's no denying he's unbelievably talented.Yeah But Corrales never got countered he just walked to Floyd and Floyd hit him.

Corrales doesn't fight on the outside either he's an inside fighter. And Williams has about 2 or 3 inches on Corrales.

Lance_Uppercut
07-15-2007, 05:15 PM
Right now, I would pick Shane and Cotto over Williams. Floyd likely as well, but I think Williams stylistically would give Floyd fits. Trying to pot shot someone with such a physical advantage isn't the best idea. Cintron v Williams would be good.

Lance_Uppercut
07-15-2007, 05:16 PM
i want to see cintron -mosley...it would be nice to see mosley lose and miss his chance at fighting floyd.

cotto -williams would be a good fight also with the winner of both fighting eachother.

Why would you want Shane to MISS a chance at Floyd? Are you that fuckin scared of Shane?:patsch

El Bombasto
07-15-2007, 05:18 PM
Any boxer with power that throw straight punches

etong_08
07-15-2007, 05:22 PM
Cotto heart backed with relentless power punches will be the tough test for this guy.

Cerberus
07-15-2007, 05:24 PM
I don't think many fighters at this weight will be winning many decisions over PW. If you're going to beat this guy, you're gonna have to knock him out.

codeman99998
07-15-2007, 05:25 PM
This is fucking bullshit.

So, Paul Williams beat ANTONIO FUCKING MARGARITO and suddenly there's no way Floyd can beat him? How do so many people so quickly forget how talented Floyd is. I will say this.

With a 10 inch whatever reach disadvantage, Pretty Boy Floyd will COUNTER Paul Williams. With a 5 inch height advantage, Floyd will land at a huge percentage against Paul Williams. With all of Paul Williams relentlessness, Pretty Boy Floyd will make him miss and miss and miss.

Pretty Boy Floyd wins. How is it that you guys can so easily forget how good he is just because one guy beat Antonio?

Ring Master
07-15-2007, 05:26 PM
Thank you, not to mention he falls over his own punches.

ChampionsForever
07-15-2007, 05:27 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing Floyd Vs Williams just to see how PBF would deal with the natural disadvantages he would face.

MrMagic
07-15-2007, 05:29 PM
PBF
SSM
ODLH
MAG (Cotto)

Keihule
07-15-2007, 05:32 PM
I think Cotto could beat him. After watching the fight with Margarito, it was pretty clear to me that although Williams does have incredible stamina and workrate, he doesnt have enough punching power for his size.

I feel Williams with his size and stamina should be able to knockout a majority of fighters at 147, against margarito, he threw alot of jabs and outworked him but most of those jabs were blocked and just kept A. Margarito at a distance and didnt let him get inside rather than actually hurting him.

I think that if he let Cotto hang around for 12 rounds like he did Margarito, it would only be a matter of time before Williams hit the deck and got docked with his first tally in the Loss column.

It would be interesting to see him against PBF, floyd runs like crazy and throws underaverage amount of punches for 147. Against a polar opposite like Williams, I honestly cant say what would happen. Either Williams would be utterly confused and caught off guard by floyd, or Williams would swarm Floyd and work him for a 12 round decision. I am not audacious to make a serious guess. I hate PBF because of the way he has compared himself to guys like Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali, guys that have been in the ring more rounds than he has sparred, and have done more for boxing than he ever will. But I cant say that he would be a walk in the park for Williams.

*BOX_FAN*
07-15-2007, 05:34 PM
PBF, Mosley and Cotto.

natep
07-15-2007, 05:37 PM
i think williams is far too busy of a fighter for cintron. floyd mayweather would just make paul williams look like a fool in the ring though.