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Jack
07-15-2007, 05:38 PM
I, like many others, were before last night, underestimating Williams. I thought he looked good, but his opposition was extremely low. I did think he would pull off the upset, but I thought it'd be closer than it was, and was making that prediction blind, as it was hard to judge Williams' chin against someone like Margarito. Even his stamina wasn't proven. Sure, he could throw hundreds of shots per round, btu against someone like Margarito? For 12 rounds? I was suprised at how high it stayed.

Now, after that fantastic performance, I have a hard time thinking PBF could win. Is he the better boxer? Abslutely. However, his style is made for a guy like Williams.

PBF will always have a problem against people who have a much higher punch output tha he does. He lost a lot of rounds against DLH because he wasn#t that active. Ditto agaist Castillo. Paul Williams throws over 3 times as many punches as PBF does. That is an insane number. As good as PBF's defence is, eh is without doubt going to land a lot more than Mayweather will.

Mayweather will struggle because of his size as well. With a 10" reach advantage, mayweather is going to struggle to counter punch him. His defence is great, but often relies on boxers coming in to eat those punches. margarito, a boxer bigger than PBF, couldn't keep Williams from hitting him, and I doubt PBF will either.

Power isn't an issue to keep Williams away either. Margo couldn't so neither will Floyd.




Williams has every advantage in the styles department and is an absolute beast physically. Do you pick Floyd over him?

MrMagic
07-15-2007, 05:40 PM
PW is a good young man.. but PBF would be too skilled, too brilliant

BobDigi5060
07-15-2007, 05:40 PM
Its high risk low reward for Floyd but he would most likely win.

H .
07-15-2007, 05:41 PM
:lol: Is this one of those joke threads :lol: PBF

thai-hardhitter972
07-15-2007, 05:46 PM
Floyd is better skilled , better talent indeed , but if the fight was made I'd would pick Williams by UD , I agree with Jack his volume punches/reach would give Floyd lots of trouble and I don't think Floyd would be the one to KO him , because thats the only way I can see him losing.

brooklyn1550
07-15-2007, 05:47 PM
He would make Floyd work hard for the victory

Relentless
07-15-2007, 05:48 PM
if they fight now floyd owns him, maybe in a couple of years time, williams really impressed me i thought he didn't have a good chin and was a straight brawler, but he proved me wrong

Lance_Uppercut
07-15-2007, 05:49 PM
I would pick Floyd, but it would not be easy. Floyd, for all his amazing skill, would need to be willing to get hit to get inside. Williams reach, height, and work rate makes this a very tough fight for Mayweather.

surreal deal
07-15-2007, 06:01 PM
Floyd easily.
you are joking?how?

Lance_Uppercut
07-15-2007, 06:06 PM
you are joking?how?

Anyone who says "Easy win" should not be taken serious. :deal

erik1126
07-15-2007, 06:12 PM
cant believe williams is in the lead if u didnt figure it out after the fight yesterday but
MARGARITo is overrated
williams is good but hes not good enought to beat mayweather

Lance_Uppercut
07-15-2007, 06:13 PM
Easy outcome. Maybe not an easy fight, but no way I pick Paul, easy choice.

That's more clear.:thumbsup

Still, there are many here who will say EASY WIN for Floyd. I hate that the board has become full of newbie shit talkers the last few months. :-(

RDJ
07-15-2007, 06:19 PM
I don't see Williams winning this despite his reach advantage. I think Mayweather is too skilled, too coordinated for Williams.

Jack
07-15-2007, 06:27 PM
Are people picking Floyd because it is Floyd? I can see why you would, but I would like to know how Mayweather would beat Williams.

Marnoff
07-15-2007, 06:27 PM
As good as PBF's defence is, eh is without doubt going to land a lot more than Mayweather will.

Mayweather will struggle because of his size as well. With a 10" reach advantage, mayweather is going to struggle to counter punch him. His defence is great, but often relies on boxers coming in to eat those punches. margarito, a boxer bigger than PBF, couldn't keep Williams from hitting him, and I doubt PBF will either.

Williams has every advantage in the styles department and is an absolute beast physically. Do you pick Floyd over him?

Slow down.

How do you figure he will land, "without a doubt", more than Floyd? He'll throw more and miss more, but I doubt he LANDS more.

Secondly, why does Margarito being hit have anything to do with Floyd? He is bigger, as you put it, but what does that have to do with it? I don't follow your logic in any of this really.

Marnoff
07-15-2007, 06:29 PM
Are people picking Floyd because it is Floyd?

Yes... I'm picking Floyd... because he is Floyd. Who else would he be?

Floyd outslicks the young Williams and wins on the cards, possibly knocking Williams down with a counter over the course of the way.

Relentless
07-15-2007, 06:31 PM
Yes... I'm picking Floyd... because he is Floyd. Who else would he be?

Floyd outslicks the young Williams and wins on the cards, possibly knocking Williams down with a counter over the course of the way.

:rofl:rofl now you know not to take this guy seriously

guillermojm
07-15-2007, 06:31 PM
this is probably the first and last time you see these two names together like this

pbf will not lower his standards and fight this guy he would have to get through hattan,cotto, or even cintron and that my freinds will not happen

Marnoff
07-15-2007, 06:33 PM
Floyd is better skilled , better talent indeed , but if the fight was made I'd would pick Williams by UD , I agree with Jack his volume punches/reach would give Floyd lots of trouble and I don't think Floyd would be the one to KO him , because thats the only way I can see him losing.

You cannot see Floyd winning a decision?

Marnoff
07-15-2007, 06:34 PM
:rofl:rofl now you know not to take this guy seriously

It's impossible to believe Floyd could land a solid left hook counter when Williams is pumping out 1200 punches in a fight? I don't.

I never said he'd knock him out, but I can see a counterpunch knockdown. Flash, if you will. Corrales was big and tall and got hit all night long.

Marnoff
07-15-2007, 06:35 PM
:rofl:rofl now you know not to take this guy seriously

Still bitter over Margarito losing (again), right?

Floyd #1
07-15-2007, 06:38 PM
It's simply amazing how the hate people have for Floyd clouds their judgement.

Williams would win 3 rounds max.

El Bombasto
07-15-2007, 06:40 PM
Floyd can't KO Williams and won't throw enough punches to win a decision

Paul Williams UD

Floyd #1
07-15-2007, 06:41 PM
23 - 21 to Williams now ?

LOL

o_money
07-15-2007, 06:41 PM
talent alone isn't everything.....the whole floyds too talented arguements aren't enough to dismiss a guy who has so many physical and stylistic advantages.

o_money
07-15-2007, 06:45 PM
You can't take someone like that seriously. He could get out-pointed and outboxed by someone like Floyd or beaten on the inside by someone like Cotto. The guy is far from unbeatable, and it doesn't require a KO to beat him either.

certainly not. Floyd could use counter punching and movement to control the pace of the fight.

Jack
07-15-2007, 06:49 PM
How do you figure he will land, "without a doubt", more than Floyd? He'll throw more and miss more, but I doubt he LANDS more.So you don't think Williams would land more punches? :lol: People who Williams is throwing twice as many punches than, have come close to outlanding Floyd. Maybe if you want to be pedantic Floyd would want to land the cleaner shots, but considering Williams throws 3 times as many punches, say Mayweather would land more is absurd.

Secondly, why does Margarito being hit have anything to do with Floyd? He is bigger, as you put it, but what does that have to do with it? I don't follow your logic in any of this really.My point was that williams could land on an opponent who has a longer reach than Mayweather fromt he outside. Thus, Williams would just stay away popping long range punches, meaning Floyd would throw even less. As a counter puncher who uses the Philly Shell, Mayweather requires people to come close to him, for him to land his effective punches.

Read up on the Philly Shell for more reasons about this :good
Yes... I'm picking Floyd... because he is Floyd. Who else would he be?Serious question - Are you stupid? Do you not even see what point I was making there?
Floyd outslicks the young Williams and wins on the cards, possibly knocking Williams down with a counter over the course of the way.Oh OK, so the technical analysis we have so far is that Floyd "outslicks" Williams.

Great stuff.

RafaelGonzal
07-15-2007, 06:49 PM
PBF has met his match at the slap game Williams has more volume 100 slaps a round is 6/2 and long with stamina, I say he outslaps the slapper dont say Will is a better fighter or anything, only that in a slap fest of little commitment a PBF playing defense all night plays right into Williams' stock and trade. PBF for once will not be able to sit on a lead and run. Mark my words PBF will never fight Williams too big a risk not enough gain, and as the fans respect and proving he can clean out the best is not on his damn agenda the sorry cunt. But fighting little stubby Ricky Hatton is, while no mention of Mosely or Williams, how about a Winky? What bullshit and you idiots eat it up!!!!!

o_money
07-15-2007, 06:50 PM
this is probably the first and last time you see these two names together like this

pbf will not lower his standards and fight this guy he would have to get through hattan,cotto, or even cintron and that my freinds will not happen

I wouldn't call it a lowering of his standard because williams gives anyone at 147 a good go. I would more say that williams inherits margo's position as biggest risk lowest reward fight for floyd.....so yes he will have to do some serious campaining to get pbf's attention.

Personally I think he posses the biggest risk to floyd....over and above all the fighters you mentioned.

I think by the time PW is in a position to get a fight with floyd he will be too old and want no part of him. too bad because i'd favour him over floyd right now.

o_money
07-15-2007, 06:56 PM
Name the stylistic advantages. I think this is a stylistic nightmare for Williams personally. Wiliams is a tall, lanky guy who stays in close to be hit, and against a quick counter-puncher like Floyd he's getting pot-shotted and out-pointed all night long. He'll lose a comfortable UD to Floyd. Too much movement to get in and bang, too good a defense to catch him and hurt him, and too bad a defense to stay out of Floyd's counter-punching and pot-shotting. Also, as I said, he doesn't really use his height and reach to his advantage, and wouldn't be able to against Floyd anyway.
As you can see by my other posts I also feel that this could happen. But I disagree with the notion that he can't use his hieght. He can. And stylisticly I'm just going with the volume puncher gives the boxer a tough fight addage.

I think we just disagree with how hard it would be for him to impose his advantages on floyd. Personally, i saw the DLH fight and saw a guy that is beatable and is more interested in just doing enough to win a fight while not getting hurt then a guy that goes out there and imposes himself on the other guy. Also he got owned by the jab and if PW could make this work for him it would be a long night for floyd.

brick city
07-15-2007, 06:58 PM
This is a pick'em fight. Anyway it would never happen.

RDJ
07-15-2007, 07:04 PM
Volume puncher vs. counter puncher. Mayweather would counter a few times, after that Williams will no longer be a volume puncher. He'll be picking his shots more carefully.

Martini643
07-15-2007, 07:13 PM
is this some sort of a joke? Mayweather would tear him apart


Mayweather UD

Pimp C
07-15-2007, 07:14 PM
Funny to see you Margosexuals jump off Margo's dick and onto Paul's.:lol: :rofl :lol:

Pimp C
07-15-2007, 07:16 PM
PBF by UD. Willaims is there to be hit and doesn't fight tall like he should. PBF would counter Williams way more than Margo could ever dream of. I like Williams but one win over an overrated fighter like Margo doesn't mean you can beat the best boxer on the planet.:deal

Shake
07-15-2007, 07:17 PM
Jesus, you guys are fast with the latest fad.

Lance_Uppercut
07-15-2007, 07:19 PM
Funny to see you Margosexuals jump off Margo's dick and onto Paul's.:lol: :rofl :lol:

Like who? Sorry loser, no one is really doing that.


What's funny is all the hatred you;ve made for Margarito simply because he wanted to fight Mayweather. And you claim to be some fan of the sweet science? Like you have any respect?

o_money
07-15-2007, 07:21 PM
Yes... I'm picking Floyd... because he is Floyd. Who else would he be?

Floyd out slicks the young Williams and wins on the cards, possibly knocking Williams down with a counter over the course of the way.


I just don't understand how Floyd fans see the world the way they do. We both apply logic to what we see: I see a man with a lot of talent that is deserving of respect but when considering his talents it must be realized that he is not some messiah of boxing and has not proven or shown the ability to over come all challenges. And yet when Floyd fans apply logic to what they see they see someone whose skills and talent could over come all - regardless of the nature of the challenge.

The only other thing i have to say is that traditionally the fighters that have proven capable of beating all styles are fighters that can/do change there styles to exploit there weaknesses. Floyd has never done this. He's always won his hardest fights by just doing what he normally does better.

Pimp C
07-15-2007, 07:27 PM
Like who? Sorry loser, no one is really doing that.


What's funny is all the hatred you;ve made for Margarito simply because he wanted to fight Mayweather. And you claim to be some fan of the sweet science? Like you have any respect?
I hate Margo for two reason one he was never any good to begin with. 10 years at 147 and never facing the champ there tells you all you need to know about him. Two his nuthugging fans overhyping him making him out to be some monster at 147 when he's clearly not.

BTW quit your crying you were on of those fans who pumped up Margo saying he was ducked and feared. Your boy was beaten at his own game last night deal with it Margosexual.:hi:

thai-hardhitter972
07-15-2007, 07:30 PM
You cannot see Floyd winning a decision?

He could , but im going with style/size wise I'd pick Williams UD.

Lance_Uppercut
07-15-2007, 07:31 PM
I hate Margo for two reason one he was never any good to begin with. 10 years at 147 and never facing the champ there tells you all you need to know about him. Two his nuthugging fans overhyping him making him out to be some monster at 147 when he's clearly not.

BTW quit your crying you were on of those fans who pumped up Margo saying he was ducked and feared. Your boy was beaten at his own game last night deal with it Margosexual.:hi:
YOu hate him because he was never that good and becuase he never got a shot? Are you a fuckin child or something? Those are possibly the DUMBEST reasons to have so much hatred for a fighter. Just admit it, it's ALL because he tried to fight Floyd, and floyd looked bad coming up with all those excuses.

Uhm, sorry asshole, not crying. Was a great night of boxing and I have no problem with Margarito losing. All fighters lose eventually and a loss isn't the end of the world. If you were a fan of the sport, and NOT just a Mayweather fanboy, you might know that.

And BTW, who are all the Margarito fans jumping his bandwagon as you stated? Like, none?

Relentless
07-15-2007, 07:38 PM
Funny to see you Margosexuals jump off Margo's dick and onto Paul's.:lol: :rofl :lol:

:lol:

joysexuals hate anyone who is a threat to floyd in any shape or form.

o_money
07-15-2007, 07:38 PM
exellent point lance.

Fans of the sport should never be affraid of there boy losing. A loss is not the end of the world. Good compatition is the best thing for boxing.

Nothing pisses me off more then when some fan boys try to discredit a guy or hate on a guy because deep down they are worried that he might beat there boy or they are angry because the way there boy ducks him diminishes his greatness.

I love ricky hatton but if he doesn't make the fight with mayweather he's a Fucking *****. Thats how it is.

Axe
07-15-2007, 07:40 PM
This would be a very good fight and one that I would absolutely love to see.

Lance_Uppercut
07-15-2007, 07:41 PM
exellent point lance.

Fans of the sport should never be affraid of there boy losing. A loss is not the end of the world. Good compatition is the best thing for boxing.

Nothing pisses me off more then when some fan boys try to discredit a guy or hate on a guy because deep down they are worried that he might beat there boy.

I love ricky hatton but if he doesn't make the fight with mayweather he's a *****. Thats how it is.

Good competition and good bouts are what I prefer. I don't give a shit about how much money a boxer makes or how many titles he's picked up.

guillermojm
07-15-2007, 07:58 PM
I wouldn't call it a lowering of his standard because williams gives anyone at 147 a good go. I would more say that williams inherits margo's position as biggest risk lowest reward fight for floyd.....so yes he will have to do some serious campaining to get pbf's attention.

Personally I think he posses the biggest risk to floyd....over and above all the fighters you mentioned.

I think by the time PW is in a position to get a fight with floyd he will be too old and want no part of him. too bad because i'd favour him over floyd right now.

lets be honest margo underestimated williams a mistake hatton,cotto, or cintron wont make

williams does not have the punch to slow pbf down, pbf will dance all over the ring until williams is dizzy then he will rip him apart....

hatton and cotto will be on him like white on rice and after 20 kidney shots he will be done

cintron will play it cool till he gets the open shot once he does williams will be gone easy as that.....

he put up a show last night against a boxer who didnt seem ready and i think he wasnt. the best bet for williams is to move up in weight at WW he has no future... :good

JAM Killer
07-15-2007, 08:00 PM
Floyd would win. I don't think he would be a close bout either. He would win because he is better in every aspect of the sport.

BigReg
07-15-2007, 08:06 PM
I've learned to always predict Mayweather to win. When you don't give a shit about pleasing the fans, your only concern is winning on points. Mayweather has no other concerns.

I'm going to have to completely disagree with this assesment. Floyd has 24 KO's in 38 fights. You won't see that type of KO percentage out of a guy just looking to win on points. I'll admit that Floyd didn't try very hard to KO DLH or Baldomir(both are much bigger guys with good chins). However, he was kickin the piss out of Judah and may have stopped him until Zab decided to cheat and set off a riot that stopped the fight for 10 minutes. Floyd KO'd his three previous opponents before Judah. Fighters like Camacho, Pep, and now Malignaggi are guys who weren't too concerned with KO's.

JohnXVI
07-15-2007, 08:06 PM
I think Paul has a better chance than it appears. He'll be really hungry for that one.

o_money
07-15-2007, 08:10 PM
lets be honest margo underestimated williams a mistake hatton,cotto, or cintron wont make

williams does not have the punch to slow pbf down, pbf will dance all over the ring until williams is dizzy then he will rip him apart....

hatton and cotto will be on him like white on rice and after 20 kidney shots he will be done

cintron will play it cool till he gets the open shot once he does williams will be gone easy as that.....

he put up a show last night against a boxer who didnt seem ready and i think he wasnt. the best bet for williams is to move up in weight at WW he has no future... :good

Don't think Hatton beats paul but I would agree that cotton pounds this dude into submission and cintron certainly has a pretty good change of beating his ass as well. but this doesn't mean that PBF would beat him. Thats how styles make fights. Volume punchers will always have problems with guys that throw big shots. Therefore Cotto would probably break this guy down. Floyd on the other hand doesn't throw big shots. And I don;t think he moves well enough to keep pw of him. Its not a matter of PBF getting hurt its more a matter of him being out worked by a bigger guy to a point where he isn't affective enough to win rounds.

Would laugh my ass off if PW and hatton ever fought though. The tallest lankiest guy in boxing vs the shortest stockiest. pure comedy.

Lostmykeys
07-15-2007, 09:12 PM
Hmmm although Williams does have a substantial sized advantage and high punch output but I dont think it's enogh to beat Floyd.

PBF's defense would limit PWs punching and make him miss a lot leaving room for PBF to counter.

I'd say that Mayweather takes this one. But the fight will be close enough that the huggers will say it was a robbery.

codeman99998
07-15-2007, 09:35 PM
*sigh*

Shane Mosley beats Collazo and suddenly Mosley is the man who can beat Floyd Mayweather.

Cotto beats Judah and suddenly Cotto is the man who can beat Floyd Mayweather.

Hatton beats Castillo and suddenly Hatton is the man who can beat Floyd Mayweather.

Now, Williams beats Margarito and it is Williams that can beat Floyd Mayweather.

Mayweather beats Williams. Mayweather can punch from all different angles, shooting in for straight right leads, left hook leads, uppercut leads. Floyd deflects and dodges punches all night long, even against fighters with big punch outputs. Floyd is fast and extremely accurate. Floyd can go to the head or the body and he keeps touching you while never putting himself in danger.

I don't care how well anyone says Williams stacks up against Mayweather. I understand that styles make fights yadda yadda yadda but the truth of the matter is I don't bet against Floyd Mayweather because it is a sucker's bet. Floyd Mayweather finds a way to win. Against Castillo who swarmed him he found a way to win. Against Judah who was faster than him he found a way to win. Against DLH who was bigger and stronger than him he found a way to win.

So, what, Williams is bigger and longer and throws more punches than Floyd?

Floyd will find a way to win.

Fab2333
07-15-2007, 10:09 PM
Floyd easily.
:happy :deal
yup educate them Sweet Pea

Lance_Uppercut
07-15-2007, 10:11 PM
:happy :deal
yup educate them Sweet Pea

Someone needs to educate you. I would favor Floyd, but it would NOT be an easy win.:patsch

Fab2333
07-15-2007, 10:15 PM
Someone needs to educate you. I would favor Floyd, but it would NOT be an easy win.:patsch

Yeah we will see, Williams is a decent fighter dont get me wrong. But he makes a lot of mistakes, and Floyd would expose them easily

psychopath
07-15-2007, 10:29 PM
Williams doesn't stand a chance to win against Floyd.

Floyd is just too experienced and smart for him. Floyd is the kind of fighter who can make Williams look amateur in the ring.

JMotrain
07-15-2007, 10:31 PM
I see this as a replay of Mayweather-Corrales.

Since when did Corrales throw over 1000 punches a fight? And Williams will not be weight drained.

JMotrain
07-15-2007, 10:37 PM
The punch output doesn't matter when you're facing someone with the footwork and movement that Floyd has. Unless he wants to just swing anyway and miss and look like a fool, Paul will be picking his shots more selectively, and likely out-pointed quite fairly.

Since when is Mayweather a great inside fighter? Since when is Mayweather one to come forward and trade shots? He'd be at a physical disadvantage in both height and reach, and he'd have to get inside of Williams jab and outwork Williams. Williams pressure alone can win him the fight since Mayweather wouldn't throw 1/3 of the punches that Williams will. It's a bad matchup for Mayweather. He's better off fighting Hatton or Mosley.

JMotrain
07-15-2007, 10:42 PM
Williams comes in to pressure, Mayweather counter-punches and moves, I'd say it works just fine to his style. And Mayweather has proved on more than one occasion that he is a very good inside fighter and excellent in the pocket. Then again, what did any of my post have to do with fighting on the inside?

Because Floyd would have to get inside to win. He's not going to beat Williams on the outside. If Williams fights tall, and Mayweather does his little retreat to the ropes, as long as Williams fights at a distance, Floyd will not be able to counter him effectively at all. Hearns-Duran all over again (except Williams still isn't Hearns in terms of power or technique). Floyd would survive the fight on his feet, but I think he would drop a decision.

JMotrain
07-15-2007, 10:51 PM
Floyd would most certainly win an outside fight. Just because Williams is taller FLoyd loses? Floyd is one of the best outside fighters in the game, nearly impossible to beat in the middle of the ring. As I said, WIlliams isn't a great boxer, he likes to bang inside. He was able to use his height and reach effectively against a sloppy brawler like Margo, but not Floyd. Floyd's quickness and skill win the boxing match with Williams, and his movement allows him to keep it a boxing match. He would tag Williams clean all night.

You can't be serious?

Floyd doesn't use his speed for his defense, he rolls his shoulder and blocks shotss with his gloves. I think Williams would outhustle him and unless Floyd is willing to walk though Williams bombs and fight him in close, he'd lose a decision.

samita
07-15-2007, 10:57 PM
I wonder who'll outrun the other :)

codeman99998
07-16-2007, 12:24 AM
Since when is Mayweather a great inside fighter? Since when is Mayweather one to come forward and trade shots? He'd be at a physical disadvantage in both height and reach, and he'd have to get inside of Williams jab and outwork Williams. Williams pressure alone can win him the fight since Mayweather wouldn't throw 1/3 of the punches that Williams will. It's a bad matchup for Mayweather. He's better off fighting Hatton or Mosley.

Mayweather has always been a very very good inside fighter.

Another poster here said something about how Floyd "doesn't use his speed for defense he uses his shoulder roll skills" or something. This is wrong.

The problem is, you guys aren't looking at Floyd's entire career, just the way he has won his very very very recent fights. He uses different things against different people. Against N'dou and Gatti he was busting them up on the inside. Against Baldomir he was potshotting from the outside. He has used his speed and reflexes and footwork defensively with great results. He has used the shoulder roll defensively with great results. He can counter, or hit you with blisteringly fast leads jumping in from the outside.

Mayweather is a totally complete fighter skillwise. He isn't the strongest or most aggressive fighter of all time, but there is no skill that he lacks. There are many different ways that Floyd wins fights, because he is very very good at many things.

JMotrain
07-16-2007, 01:36 AM
Mayweather has always been a very very good inside fighter.

Another poster here said something about how Floyd "doesn't use his speed for defense he uses his shoulder roll skills" or something. This is wrong.

The problem is, you guys aren't looking at Floyd's entire career, just the way he has won his very very very recent fights. He uses different things against different people. Against N'dou and Gatti he was busting them up on the inside. Against Baldomir he was potshotting from the outside. He has used his speed and reflexes and footwork defensively with great results. He has used the shoulder roll defensively with great results. He can counter, or hit you with blisteringly fast leads jumping in from the outside.

Mayweather is a totally complete fighter skillwise. He isn't the strongest or most aggressive fighter of all time, but there is no skill that he lacks. There are many different ways that Floyd wins fights, because he is very very good at many things.


Yeah he lacks balls, and if he digs himself a hole against Williams (if they fight) like he did against Judah he will lose. I've never doubted Floyds' talent, but stylistically Williams is all wrong for him.

siassi8qvw
07-16-2007, 01:48 AM
Mayweather has always been a very very good inside fighter.

Another poster here said something about how Floyd "doesn't use his speed for defense he uses his shoulder roll skills" or something. This is wrong.

The problem is, you guys aren't looking at Floyd's entire career, just the way he has won his very very very recent fights. He uses different things against different people. Against N'dou and Gatti he was busting them up on the inside. Against Baldomir he was potshotting from the outside. He has used his speed and reflexes and footwork defensively with great results. He has used the shoulder roll defensively with great results. He can counter, or hit you with blisteringly fast leads jumping in from the outside.

Mayweather is a totally complete fighter skillwise. He isn't the strongest or most aggressive fighter of all time, but there is no skill that he lacks. There are many different ways that Floyd wins fights, because he is very very good at many things.


Great point...people always tend to focus on his more recent fights...you are absolutely right, Floyd ALWAYS enters each fight with a unique, distinct game plan...no doubt about it. He is by far my favorite fighter and I study his fights in depth...I seriously think Williams has a great chance of beating him though...simply based on activity. He CANNOT count on williams getting tired....he definitely cannot count on hurting williams....and will be vulnerable himself as he leaps in to try to reach Williams...williams has a great uppercut that he uses frequently against shorter opponents, i could see that punch giving floyd problems...on the outside, Floyd wont be able to counter over Williams' job with the straight right hand either because of Williams' freakish reach...Williams has LONGER REACH THAN WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO...he is a freak of nature.

DonPrestige
07-16-2007, 04:10 AM
Williams has the sytle and size to bother PBF but c'mon this is Floyd Mayweather we're talking about. The reputation alone will make williams fight differently and be more cautious. Also just because he throws a lot punches doesnt mean they are not gonna be hitting leather all night. When it comes down to it, you have to be consistently hitting your opponent to score punches and defensively floyd is too good and too quick.


On another note, Saturday was the first time I saw Margarito live on tv, now that is what you call hype. I'm not saying he isnt a good boxer but damn people on here were making out like he was undefeatable and some beast. From what I saw he has too many flaws, the biggest being he is very 1 dimensional.

boxon123
07-16-2007, 05:01 AM
Don't you people ever just say "what a good fight"? Pw looks like a star of the future ,he defeated a guy who had defended a world title 8 times.All you want to do is put Shit on the guy who lost.What is wrong with you.