I was wrong about the Calzaghe vs Hopkins fight

[Tuffnutz]

Man i need to start studying and watching fight's more before i go off on one and open my stupid trap like i did. :patsch

I've just studied this one and i've been overly harsh on the old man and ended up giving it him by 2 rounds. :lol:

I wish i could go back and edit my posts but the damage has been done.

I'm probably not the only one who got a bit carried away and needs to study this one a bit.

Tbh they need to do this one again.

[mike464]

Fair play mate. Everyone knows I'm not a Calzaghe fan but I thought Hopkins won too.

[HOF]

Anyone can score a fight wrongly first time round, especially when there's emotions flying about. I thougt it was close and was sneaking towards Hopkins. When I studied the replay though, I had Calzaghe winning by 3/4. If someone decides that Hopkins won this fight after studying it for a second time then they really do need to study a lot more fights

[Dunky McCafferty]

It can be an enlightening experience watching a fight again without the adrenalin pumping through your veins. Its amazing how differently you can see a fight on the second viewing.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Anyone can score a fight wrongly first time round, especially when there's emotions flying about. I thougt it was close and was sneaking towards Hopkins. When I studied the replay though, I had Calzaghe winning by 3/4. If someone decides that Hopkins won this fight after studying it for a second time then they really do need to study a lot more fights

So the both of you had watched the fight twice, & both of you decided different men won the fight on the second watch, & then you claim the other guy is in the wrong?

Jeez, I have seen it all on here now...

[HOF]

So the both of you had watched the fight twice, & both of you decided different men won the fight on the second watch, & then you claim the other guy is in the wrong?

Jeez, I have seen it all on here now...

Point is I didn't score it the first time round. I was just sat there with a pile of cans. My gut instinct was it was going to Hopkins as it was such a scrappy fight and it didn't help when Rawling said Calzaghe needs a BIG last round. I only scored it when I watched it the second time round sober.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Point is I didn't score it the first time round. I was just sat there with a pile of cans. My gut instinct was it was going to Hopkins as it was such a scrappy fight and it didn't help when Rawling said Calzaghe needs a BIG last round. I only scored it when I watched it the second time round sober.

aah, the demon drink, eh? Making you think big bad Bernard won the fight...
You should kick the booze, it makes you too honest;)

[HOF]

aah, the demon drink, eh? Making you think big bad Bernard won the fight...
You should kick the booze, it makes you too honest;)

:lol::lol: Booze and the ole dark arts are a good mix eh!

[Dunky McCafferty]

:lol::lol: Booze and the ole dark arts are a good mix eh!

damn right they are HOF.

[Farmboxer]

Fight was not even close. Ruiz imitation did not work for Hopkins. Throw one punch, lead with the head, grab, hold on for dear life and repeat. Ruiz, no doubt about it.

[bingbong]

Anyone can score a fight wrongly first time round, especially when there's emotions flying about. I thougt it was close and was sneaking towards Hopkins. When I studied the replay though, I had Calzaghe winning by 3/4. If someone decides that Hopkins won this fight after studying it for a second time then they really do need to study a lot more fights

Could not agree more , I had it as a JC win by 3 on second viewing

[achillesthegreat]

I had it for JC.

[themacallan]

I could only giver it to Hopkins if I thought his constant holding and fouling was a valid tactic. It's not.

If he hadn't been holding all the time, who knows - we might have seen an actual fight.

Disgraceful performance.if he hadn't held all the time he would have been stopped.

[trotter]

Fight was not even close. Ruiz imitation did not work for Hopkins. Throw one punch, lead with the head, grab, hold on for dear life and repeat. Ruiz, no doubt about it.

Exactly, I find it ridiculous that anyone would award rounds for that. And in many of the rounds, that's literally all Hopkins did.

The Punchstats tell their own story in terms of who came to fight, who tried to fight, who threw the punches. Now if throwing and landing almost double to your opponent doesn't win you the fight, it's a sorry affair.

Tuffie, I realise second viewings can be very enlightening, but to swing this drastically... your judgement is somehow awry, it has to be.

[transwarp100]

if he hadn't held all the time he would have been stopped.

Stopped?...calzaghe is lucky hopkins output is so low, otherwise hopkins would have stopped him. Calzaghe faced a true fighter, what happend to overwhelming people with speed? huh?, why didn't calzaghe go crazy like he does when he gets dropped? cause he was facing a fighter of note worthy for the first time, and he got beat. hahaha.

[trotter]

Stopped?...calzaghe is lucky hopkins output is so low, otherwise hopkins would have stopped him. Calzaghe faced a true fighter, what happend to overwhelming people with speed? huh?, why didn't calzaghe go crazy like he does when he gets dropped? cause he was facing a fighter of note worthy for the first time, and he got beat. hahaha.

Point of fact - he won.

Why is it only boxing 'fans' who consistently deny the cold hard facts? It's ridiculous.

[Fat Joe]

No, right first time

[transwarp100]

Ok idiot, if your opponent attempts to hold every time you try to fight, what can you do?

You cannot overwhelm someone being so cagey.

You are a fucing moron.

You complete scumbag this is where the jab comes in... what ever happend to joes so called amazing jab and amazing footwork that he showed against terget practice lacy? exactly you fool.

[Tuffnutz]

Exactly, I find it ridiculous that anyone would award rounds for that. And in many of the rounds, that's literally all Hopkins did.

The Punchstats tell their own story in terms of who came to fight, who tried to fight, who threw the punches. Now if throwing and landing almost double to your opponent doesn't win you the fight, it's a sorry affair.

Tuffie, I realise second viewings can be very enlightening, but to swing this drastically... your judgement is somehow awry, it has to be.

:lol: Welcome aboard Trotter. :p

Tbh mate i would'nt have complained who they gave the fight too. It was a close one and even though the fight was'nt much cop they need to do it again. Having studied the fight it was Hopkins landing the clenaer, more eye catching punches. Also Even though hoplkns tied Calzaghe up i dont think he was as bad as i made him out to be. I also agree with Werris about the punch stat. Who ever did those needs to be fired.

I'll be disapointed if they don't do this one again.

Calzgahe was the one coming forward and i think people have looked to much into that. Calzaghe did'nt really have much luck landing anything good looking on Hopkins in this fight. He came forward but was he really that effective?

[dan-b]

All petty insults aside does this not just tell you one thing? It was obviously a close fight & the scoring subjective. Of course I was dissapointed with the result but my only hope now is Joe makes the right match up for his last fight & the ever charismatic Bhop makes the sensible choice & retires.

[themacallan]

Stopped?...calzaghe is lucky hopkins output is so low, otherwise hopkins would have stopped him. Calzaghe faced a true fighter, what happend to overwhelming people with speed? huh?, why didn't calzaghe go crazy like he does when he gets dropped? cause he was facing a fighter of note worthy for the first time, and he got beat. hahaha.I think you'll find calzaghe won the fight.

[JonOli]

I just re watched the fight and the constant holding and dangerously leading with the head by Hopkins was far worse then I remembered.