Overall: Are you dissapointed in the Boxing Judges Today ?

[jaycuban]

I know there are alot of bad decicions made in big boxing fights every year, And some are right on the money of course, i mean judges cant be perfect, but sometimes they seem to judge the fight on different stuff that dosent really matter, and sometimes they just give the fight to the favorite, or politics is involved in it,

But overall, are you dissapointed with the boxing judges today ?

[venomus_p4p]

Hell yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jaycuban]

Fo real, hell yeah, did you see the Casamayor - Santa Cruz fight ? (Im cuban and a Casamayor fan, but please come on) and i bring that up because it was the most rescent one i can think of

[dangerousity]

I thought they were right on the money on Bhop-Cal except that woman who should be fired.

[onceagain]

I thought they were right on the money on Bhop-Cal except that woman who should be fired.

many people there ringside scoring the fight thought that too. BBC & German television being some international sources that felt that score was just. do i think that Joe won? yeah, but it was a close and extremely difficult fight to score. what that woman did wasn't a fuckin robbery by any means. lay that shit to rest

[dangerousity]

many people there ringside scoring the fight thought that too. BBC & German television being some international sources that felt that score was just. do i think that Joe won? yeah, but it was a close and extremely difficult fight to score. what that woman did wasn't a fuckin robbery by any means. lay that shit to rest

It was a close fight but the rounds won & lost were clear. It was clear Joe was loosing the first half of the fight, and very clear he was winning the last half. Just look at Hopkins trying everything to stall the fight, he was a goner. Hopkins won 5 rounds at most.

[onceagain]

It was a close fight but the rounds won & lost were clear. It was clear Joe was loosing the first half of the fight, and very clear he was winning the last half. Just look at Hopkins trying everything to stall the fight, he was a goner. Hopkins won 5 rounds at most.

I don't think it's so black and white. The point remains though, many people ringside (and are not 'biased Americans') had that score too. So it's a bit much for you to be calling for her head when many felt that was a reasonable score. In the end I think the judges got it right though.

[Asterion]

Today?

No. There have been right and wrong decisions all the time.

[RingKing]

I'm just glad Harold Lederman isn't an official judge!!!!!!!!!!!!

[skier47]

I thought it was in poor taste to have Hopkins little sister judging the
fight last Saturday.

[Smith]

It has always been like this, and always will be.

[TFFP]

Yes. There seems to be a robbery every few weeks. I only have to think back to last month, when Spinks got robbed against Phillips

[nervousxtian]

Today? How bout always.

[warrior85]

same as it ever was.

[divac]

I'm with the consensus, its the same as its always been.

Judges are either one of two things, they're bought off, or they're heavily influenced by the crowd and or consensus favorite.

.....its why Casamayor was giftwrapped the decision against Santa Cruz (exactly, who the hell is Santa Cruz the judges must have noted)
.....and why Juan Manuel Marquez started out with the handicap of needing a KO to come out victorious against Pacquiao, who the media had already matched up with every big name fighter from DLH on down.


......you put that kind of pressure on the judges, and they just cant handle it, they want to bring the people the matchups that the media creates.

DLH over Sturm???
Please, there is'nt a boxing fan alive that does'nt know exactly why DLH got his hands embarrassingly raised that night!


The sad part is that the media is partly to blame, they only make a stink about a bad decision when ever the hell it pleases them......

Some idiot judge had Christian Mijares losing every round in his last fight......I cant remember any judge turning in a worst scorecard than that ever......yet the fella's at HBO barely gave it a mention.....
.....and we still have'nt heard an explanation from anybody on that scorecard.
Sweeping such bogasity under the table like that is exactly why judges have the audacity to give us more of the same BS time and again!

[Thread Stealer]

I'm with the consensus, its the same as its always been.

Judges are either one of two things, they're bought off, or they're heavily influenced by the crowd and or consensus favorite.

.....its why Casamayor was giftwrapped the decision against Santa Cruz (exactly, who the hell is Santa Cruz the judges must have noted)
.....and why Juan Manuel Marquez started out with the handicap of needing a KO to come out victorious against Pacquiao, who the media had already matched up with every big name fighter from DLH on down.


......you put that kind of pressure on the judges, and they just cant handle it, they want to bring the people the matchups that the media creates.

DLH over Sturm???
Please, there is'nt a boxing fan alive that does'nt know exactly why DLH got his hands embarrassingly raised that night!


The sad part is that the media is partly to blame, they only make a stink about a bad decision when ever the hell it pleases them......

Some idiot judge had Christian Mijares losing every round in his last fight......I cant remember any judge turning in a worst scorecard than that ever......yet the fella's at HBO barely gave it a mention.....
.....and we still have'nt heard an explanation from anybody on that scorecard.
Sweeping such bogasity under the table like that is exactly why judges have the audacity to give us more of the same BS time and again!

Actually, I've heard quite a few Oscar groupies say he beat Sturm.

[daredevil1989]

too much credit gets given to the aggressor nowadays even if they are ineffective with it boxing off the backfoot should not put you at a stylistic disadvanatage in the judges eyes but it does seem to. I mean ledderman had hatton up after 6 rounds against PBF just for comign forward even thought he was ineffectively aggressive

[Thread Stealer]

too much credit gets given to the aggressor nowadays even if they are ineffective with it boxing off the backfoot should not put you at a stylistic disadvanatage in the judges eyes but it does seem to. I mean ledderman had hatton up after 6 rounds against PBF just for comign forward even thought he was ineffectively aggressive

Yeah, Lederman seems to like aggression more than clean punching.

He also had Chavez beating PBF after 7 and Toney-Jirov a draw.

[klion22]

Nothing against old folks but why are all judges senior citizens? It's harder for an old man to follow the quick action of a fight. And i don't like the fact that most of them just sit stationary and don't even move to try to get a better angle. Heck, if i was a judge, i would need my side of the ring cleared out because i would be walking back and forth.

And as others said, i think judges give way too much credit for ineffective aggression. But i guess it's easier to just see it that way instead of looking for the cleaner punches, which actually requires paying attention.