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Jose FM
07-15-2007, 10:53 PM
Dont forget, Williams threw 1200 punches, most of which were blocked and most that did land were not powerful or meaningful at all. And through the storm Margarito was still gunning to knock Williams out! All you Pimp C's of the world and Floyd Nuthuggers were quick to start you lil' thread saying how Margarito is a scrub, well if Floyd can throw 1200 punches and still withstand the Margarito onslaught then props to Floyd, but in the meantime, you floyd nuthuggers should acknowledge that at least Tony doesnt cherry pick like Floyd does and fights guys like Williams!:deal

JMotrain
07-15-2007, 10:56 PM
Dont forget, Williams threw 1200 punches, most of which were blocked and most that did land were not powerful or meaningful at all. And through the storm Margarito was still gunning to knock Williams out! All you Pimp C's of the world and Floyd Nuthuggers were quick to start you lil' thread saying how Margarito is a scrub, well if Floyd can throw 1200 punches and still withstand the Margarito onslaught then props to Floyd, but in the meantime, you floyd nuthuggers should acknowledge that at least Tony doesnt cherry pick like Floyd does and fights guys like Williams!:deal

Frazier beats Ali, Foreman beats Frazier, therefore Foreman beats Ali. Wait no .:rofl

Williams and Floyd are polar opposites, and a fight between Margo and Floyd would be very different.

Jose FM
07-15-2007, 10:57 PM
Frazier beats Ali, Foreman beats Frazier, therefore Foreman beats Ali. Wait no .:rofl

Williams and Floyd are polar opposites, and a fight between Margo and Floyd would be very different.
Absolutely, and thats what i mean, ppl on this site just think that Margo is a bum cause williams won a very CLOSEfight!

PBF P4P #1
07-15-2007, 10:57 PM
Dont forget, Williams threw 1200 punches, most of which were blocked and most that did land were not powerful or meaningful at all. And through the storm Margarito was still gunning to knock Williams out! All you Pimp C's of the world and Floyd Nuthuggers were quick to start you lil' thread saying how Margarito is a scrub, well if Floyd can throw 1200 punches and still withstand the Margarito onslaught then props to Floyd, but in the meantime, you floyd nuthuggers should acknowledge that at least Tony doesnt cherry pick like Floyd does and fights guys like Williams!:deal

Is it possible to not cherry pick when you are the #1 guy? I mean you can go nowhere but down. Dont you earn that right when you get to #1? Exactly. :hi:

PBF P4P #1
07-15-2007, 10:58 PM
Absolutely, and thats what i mean, ppl on this site just think that Margo is a bum cause williams won a very CLOSEfight!

8-4 isn't that close.....Hell the first 6 rounds you barely knew Margo was there.

JMotrain
07-15-2007, 10:58 PM
Absolutely, and thats what i mean, ppl on this site just think that Margo is a bum cause williams won a very CLOSEfight!

:good

Jose FM
07-15-2007, 10:59 PM
8-4 isn't that close.....Hell the first 6 rounds you barely knew Margo was there.
One judge has it like that, the others 7-5, i had it 6-6.

PBF P4P #1
07-15-2007, 11:00 PM
One judge has it like that, the others 7-5, i had it 6-6.

What rounds did you give Tony?

Off the top of my head....maybe wrong I think I gave him 7, 8, 10, 11

eze
07-15-2007, 11:00 PM
First it wasen't close. It was a clear 8-4 victory for PW.


2nd. Margo is a bum, always was a bum, forever will be a bum.

B- Fighter Forever and Always.

Jose FM
07-15-2007, 11:03 PM
What rounds did you give Tony?

Off the top of my head....maybe wrong I think I gave him 7, 8, 10, 11
4th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 11th.

Jose FM
07-15-2007, 11:04 PM
First it wasen't close. It was a clear 8-4 victory for PW.


2nd. Margo is a bum, always was a bum, forever will be a bum.

B- Fighter Forever and Always.
This is the hate im talking about.:deal

PBF P4P #1
07-15-2007, 11:04 PM
4th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 11th.

4th and 6th I can't and will never agree with....I've watched it three times and 1-6 was a breeze for PW.

JMotrain
07-15-2007, 11:05 PM
First it wasen't close. It was a clear 8-4 victory for PW.


2nd. Margo is a bum, always was a bum, forever will be a bum.

B- Fighter Forever and Always.

Even 8-4 (which it wasn't according to two ringside judges) isn't a clear victory. When you KTFO, or win every round except maybe 1, that's a clear victory.

Silver
07-15-2007, 11:05 PM
it was a good fight and both guys deserve credit. nobody should hate on margo or williams. other then the fact margo was bitching at the end of the fight, got no problem with him.

PBF P4P #1
07-15-2007, 11:05 PM
This is the hate im talking about.:deal

You have no right to bitch about the hate because your initial post was only going to stir it up.

samita
07-15-2007, 11:06 PM
I wish boxing rules change for fights that end up on points, the nod should be given to the guy who was more aggressive and who was trying more to take the other guy out. we'd have a lot more entertaining, KD/KO filled fights this way.

hitman_hatton1
07-15-2007, 11:07 PM
it was a good fight and both guys deserve credit. nobody should hate on margo or williams. other then the fact margo was bitching at the end of the fight, got no problem with him.

margo fought his heart out to take away williams advantages.

but williams just responded so well to the pressure.

excellent fight and williams won a well deserved decision.

williams is a threat to anyone out there with his style.

a definite president of the who needs him club. :yep

Jose FM
07-15-2007, 11:08 PM
You have no right to bitch about the hate because your initial post was only going to stir it up.
The title of my post is "For you Margo Haters" and thats the hate i was talking about, no bitching:nono

PBF P4P #1
07-15-2007, 11:09 PM
at least Tony doesnt cherry pick like Floyd does and fights guys like Williams!

Define hate.

Cherry Pick? Alot of folks on here would take DLH over Margarito and Williams.

Jose FM
07-15-2007, 11:11 PM
Define hate.

Cherry Pick? Alot of folks on here would take DLH over Margarito and Williams.
Hatton would be a cherry pick. Margarito, Mosley or Cotto would not.

Silver
07-15-2007, 11:11 PM
margo fought his heart out to take away williams advantages.

but williams just responded so well to the pressure.

excellent fight and williams won a well deserved decision.

williams is a threat to anyone out there with his style.

a definite president of the who needs him club. :yepwilliams definately is tough match up anybody with that size and punchrate. as for margo, as long as the cotto fight still come off, he have another chance to be a world champ at 147.

PBF P4P #1
07-15-2007, 11:12 PM
Hatton would be a cherry pick. Margarito, Mosley or Cotto would not.

Hatton would be for a guy who should be at 140?!??!?!?!?!?!

The same Hatton that Floyd was ducking last year?!??!?!?!?!


PLEASE

eze
07-15-2007, 11:12 PM
Even 8-4 (which it wasn't according to two ringside judges) isn't a clear victory. When you KTFO, or win every round except maybe 1, that's a clear victory.

A clear victory is when its CLEAR which fighter won.

It was clear that Paul Williams won. Margo lost the first 5 rounds.

In order to have Margo winning you have to have him winning the next 7.

Jose FM
07-15-2007, 11:14 PM
Hatton would be for a guy who should be at 140?!??!?!?!?!?!

The same Hatton that Floyd was ducking last year?!??!?!?!?!


PLEASE
I dont understand a word youre saying up there, I am saying Floyd should fight Cotto, mosley or Margarito, not Hatton, what are you saying?

Silver
07-15-2007, 11:16 PM
I dont understand a word youre saying up there, I am saying Floyd should fight Cotto, mosley or Margarito, not Hatton, what are you saying?he saying hatton is an elite fighter as the guys you mentioned. but to be honest, hatton had his chance. there are plenty of guys at welter to worry about.

PBF P4P #1
07-15-2007, 11:16 PM
I dont understand a word youre saying up there, I am saying Floyd should fight Cotto, mosley or Margarito, not Hatton, what are you saying?

How is the guy to beat at Floyd's best weight a cherry pick? How is the best money and recognition fight out there for him a cherry pick? This is the same guy people said he was ducking last year and now because people have changed their opinion and think Floyd would win it is a cherry pick? The same guy that whooped Tsyzu and Castillo? PLEASE

Jose FM
07-15-2007, 11:19 PM
he saying hatton is an elite fighter as the guys you mentioned. but to be honest, hatton had his chance. there are plenty of guys at welter to worry about.
Ok, but Floyd is a welter, and he should fight the Welters, fighting Hatton at 147 would just be cherry picking cause hes avoiding the top welters that are better than Hatton.

Jose FM
07-15-2007, 11:20 PM
How is the guy to beat at Floyd's best weight a cherry pick? How is the best money and recognition fight out there for him a cherry pick? This is the same guy people said he was ducking last year and now because people have changed their opinion and think Floyd would win it is a cherry pick? The same guy that whooped Tsyzu and Castillo? PLEASE
Read my last post.

Silver
07-15-2007, 11:22 PM
Ok, but Floyd is a welter, and he should fight the Welters, fighting Hatton at 147 would just be cherry picking cause hes avoiding the top welters that are better than Hatton.if he fights hatton then takes on either cotto, mosley, williams ect. then you cant really complain but hatton is not his biggest threat. and as you say mayweather is the WELTERWIEGHT champ.

samita
07-15-2007, 11:22 PM
How is the guy to beat at Floyd's best weight a cherry pick? How is the best money and recognition fight out there for him a cherry pick? This is the same guy people said he was ducking last year and now because people have changed their opinion and think Floyd would win it is a cherry pick? The same guy that whooped Tsyzu and Castillo? PLEASE
come on man, admit it. hatton got no chance of beating floyd. I'd bet my whole life on that fight, i won't be surprised if hatton gets stopped midway through. Its true that hatton is popular and is the man at 140, but a fight with cotto/mosley would make much more sense, money, and credibility for floyd.
Its true that people would bitch whether floyd beats hatton or the other two, but fighting mosley/cotto would guarantee less bitching :)

Pimp C
07-15-2007, 11:38 PM
Ok, but Floyd is a welter, and he should fight the Welters, fighting Hatton at 147 would just be cherry picking cause hes avoiding the top welters that are better than Hatton.
Carilto is that you? Margo has been at 147 for ten years and fights nobody when he fights his first B+ boxer he's beaten at his own game.:deal Your boy got worked last night deal with it Margosexual and quit making excuses.:hi:

Jose FM
07-15-2007, 11:44 PM
Carilto is that you? Margo has been at 147 for ten years and fights nobody when he fights his first B+ boxer he's beaten at his own game.:deal Your boy got worked last night deal with it Margosexual and quit making excuses.:hi:
Haha, so Clottey and Cintron werent B+ boxers?

Pimp C
07-15-2007, 11:47 PM
Haha, so Clottey and Cintron werent B+ boxers?
Clottey is a B boxer and would have beaten Margo if he had not hurt his hand and Cintron was green when he fought Margo. Cintron has improved a lot since he's been with Manny and would be favored over Margo if the two ever meet again.

JMotrain
07-15-2007, 11:49 PM
Clottey is a B boxer and would have beaten Margo if he had not hurt his hand and Cintron was green when he fought Margo. Cintron has improved a lot since he's been with Manny and would be favored over Margo if the two ever meet again.

Clottey was basically an undefeated fighter when he fought Margarito, until he gets blown out, you can't say he is a B boxer.

Pimp C
07-15-2007, 11:54 PM
Clottey was basically an undefeated fighter when he fought Margarito, until he gets blown out, you can't say he is a B boxer.
He doesn't need to be blown out to be considered B class. There's nothing wrong with being a B fighter actually it's quite good but he's not a B+ fighter yet.

Lance_Uppercut
07-15-2007, 11:57 PM
He doesn't need to be blown out to be considered B class. There's nothing wrong with being a B fighter actually it's quite good but he's not a B+ fighter yet.

:lol::lol:

You and your bullshit leter grading.

BTW did you ever answer me on all the Margarito fans you claim are jumping ship? Or was that more of your weak ass shit?:huh

Pimp C
07-15-2007, 11:59 PM
:lol::lol:

You and your bullshit leter grading.

BTW did you ever answer me on all the Margarito fans you claim are jumping ship? Or was that more of your weak ass shit?:huh
Plenty Margo fans are jumping like rats on a sinking ship. Notice how most of these Margo fans now are touting Williams as the man to beat PBF.:deal

Jose FM
07-16-2007, 12:00 AM
Clottey is a B boxer and would have beaten Margo if he had not hurt his hand and Cintron was green when he fought Margo. Cintron has improved a lot since he's been with Manny and would be favored over Margo if the two ever meet again.
So basically you telling me not to make excuses, and then you make excuses:huh

Lance_Uppercut
07-16-2007, 12:01 AM
Plenty Margo fans are jumping like rats on a sinking ship. Notice how most of these Margo fans now are touting Williams as the man to beat PBF.:deal

Which ones I asked? You're so full of shit, you can't even back up your own post. :patsch

Jose FM
07-16-2007, 12:01 AM
Plenty Margo fans are jumping like rats on a sinking ship. Notice how most of these Margo fans now are touting Williams as the man to beat PBF.:deal
Well honestly i dont see floyd beating Margo, SSM, Cotto, or Williams!

Lance_Uppercut
07-16-2007, 12:03 AM
Well honestly i dont see floyd beating Margo, SSM, Cotto, or Williams!

That's enough for to be called a hater by the fanboys here.:lol:

Pimp C
07-16-2007, 12:03 AM
So basically you telling me not to make excuses, and then you make excuses:huh
A broken or hurt hand is a legitimate excuse in losing a fight and most here will agree with me. Everyone who saw that fight saw Clottey landing at will on Margo for the first 4 rounds then all of a sudden shut down.

Jose FM
07-16-2007, 12:04 AM
That's enough for to be called a hater by the fanboys here.:lol:
Haha, well why doesnt he step up to the plate and actually fight a Top Welter, instead of Hatton!

Jose FM
07-16-2007, 12:06 AM
A broken or hurt hand is a legitimate excuse in losing a fight and most here will agree with me. Everyone who saw that fight saw Clottey landing at will on Margo for the first 4 rounds then all of a sudden shut down.
Ok, just for the record, in your eyes, Who won the first PBF/JLC fight?

Pimp C
07-16-2007, 12:07 AM
Well honestly i dont see floyd beating Margo, SSM, Cotto, or Williams!
Dream on you suck at predicting fights and recognizing talent anyway. One you picked Margo to win and two you actually think Margo is a talented fighter. I bet you said PBF wouldn't beat Oscar either.:lol:

Pimp C
07-16-2007, 12:09 AM
Ok, just for the record, in your eyes, Who won the first PBF/JLC fight?
It was a close fight and could have gone either way but I scored it 7-5 PBF. I can see how some might ahve said JLC won the fight and have no problem with it. And before you start with your shit I'm a huge JLC fan.

Toopretty
07-16-2007, 12:17 AM
Ok, just for the record, in your eyes, Who won the first PBF/JLC fight?

Man you seriously need to shut up..I mean for real. A margo hater. You got floyd is a puto in your damned avatar....clown...You are a supreme floyd hater. Margo fought and lost to a tough YOUNG fighter with alot of potential but is still unpolished. He is still green to me. He could of tore margaritos body up with his str8 left hand all night but he was head hunting too much. Funny thing was margarito tried to fight like clottey tonight after watching the fight again just now...lol. but clottey can actually counter punch and does not have to wait forever and a day to get his shots off or a combo off. Marg lost b/c he could not put two punches together the fight was close. I give marg 5 rounds now b/c Williams did miss alot more than I originally thought. MARGARITO IS NOT A SKILLED FIGHTER IN THE SLIGHTEST. He is tough as they come and strong but that is it. I mean every POWER punch he has is wide and looping. That aint hot. His str8 punches are slow as baldomir with less accuracy. And he has none. He fought the best to his abilitiy so I give him credit. But he is not on the A list especially now. B/c PW was most def not on it before this fight and now after it. He is a tough oppenent for anybody. But he is not the favorite to win against any other top welter including cintron. I think Cintron is the worst boxer out of the bunch but he has true power. I mean he is a surgeon with that right hand now under steward. If margarito beats him again and makes him cry like the last time he should be back in the mix. But for now he is off to the land of espn with Zab Judah. Or rematch clottey to settle that. He would get beat worse in a rematch.

Jose FM
07-16-2007, 12:19 AM
Dream on you suck at predicting fights and recognizing talent anyway. One you picked Margo to win and two you actually think Margo is a talented fighter. I bet you said PBF wouldn't beat Oscar either.
I did pick Oscar to win, and thought he pulled it off. Margo is a talented fighter, i dont think he beat Williams but showed alot of heart, and wasnt hurt at all, he gave away too many rounds at first, and it was a very very close fight.
It was a close fight and could have gone either way but I scored it 7-5 PBF. I can see how some might ahve said JLC won the fight and have no problem with it. And before you start with your shit I'm a huge JLC fan.
Of course you did... When he clearly did absolutely nothing from the 5th round on...

Jose FM
07-16-2007, 12:30 AM
Man you seriously need to shut up..I mean for real. A margo hater. You got floyd is a puto in your damned avatar....clown...You are a supreme floyd hater. Margo fought and lost to a tough YOUNG fighter with alot of potential but is still unpolished. He is still green to me. He could of tore margaritos body up with his str8 left hand all night but he was head hunting too much.
How is a 6'2 Fighter gonna fight a smaller brawl type fight on the inside? Just goes to show how little you know about boxing.
Funny thing was margarito tried to fight like clottey tonight after watching the fight again just now...lol. but clottey can actually counter punch and does not have to wait forever and a day to get his shots off or a combo off. Marg lost b/c he could not put two punches together the fight was close. I give marg 5 rounds now b/c Williams did miss alot more than I originally thought.
So hes green to you, but yet was doing what an experienced fighter would do, which is hit and not get hit.
MARGARITO IS NOT A SKILLED FIGHTER IN THE SLIGHTEST.
Yeah ok buddy according to you right? And who are you again?
He is tough as they come and strong but that is it. I mean every POWER punch he has is wide and looping. That aint hot. His str8 punches are slow as baldomir with less accuracy. And he has none. He fought the best to his abilitiy so I give him credit. But he is not on the A list especially now. B/c PW was most def not on it before this fight and now after it. He is a tough oppenent for anybody. But he is not the favorite to win against any other top welter including cintron. I think Cintron is the worst boxer out of the bunch but he has true power. I mean he is a surgeon with that right hand now under steward. If margarito beats him again and makes him cry like the last time he should be back in the mix.

So because he lost a close decision to a boxer who woulnt be denied and threw 1200 punches in order to get a slim victory, that makes Margarito a bum? Get a life. Cintron fought a guy that lost by stoppage to Williams, and williams just barely beat Margarito, so now you say because one guy fought a lesser opponent, hes better? Again, just shows what you know bout the boxing game.
But for now he is off to the land of espn with Zab Judah. Or rematch clottey to settle that. He would get beat worse in a rematch. You are truely dilusional my friend he is staying put and contine to fight on another day, he lost a close decision to Williams, he didnt get shut out or even hurt for that matter, hell be back, Loser!

1lehudson
07-16-2007, 01:08 AM
4th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 11th.:beer little to much of that sat night?? 4 and 6???