Amir Khan got pounded [Archive] - East Side Boxing Forum

kasabian19

07-16-2007, 05:21 AM

He got knocked down by a man who has no power whatsoever - when he gets banged by a true puncher he'll get KTFO. Serious defensive flaws. However, he did prove good heart to come back from the knock down.

He's only young so things can be worked on, the defense for example, however you cant work on a glass chin, that'll stop hom from becoming world class.

bagman

07-16-2007, 05:24 AM

Its a strange fight to review, Khan dominated and controlled the fight against a seasoned pro which was very impressive; he looked fast and accurate with his punches, however, he was badly shaken and floored by a feather fisted fighter.......I'm not sure if Khan has a good enough chin to go right to the top.

It was exciting though, maybe he will develop a Felix Trinidad approach to fights

Chileno606

07-16-2007, 05:31 AM

thanks for the reviews...
Fast agile fighters like Khan tend to rely on their reflexes and athleticism a lot, and tend to be over confident because of the things they can get away with in the ring... I've noticed that boxers like that tend to sometimes get caught with punches they dont see coming...its either that, or he has a glass jaw, i dont know

BOOKA

07-16-2007, 05:34 AM

bagman

07-16-2007, 05:38 AM

that fight didnt show whetehr or not he has a glass chin, the knockdown wasn't getting sparked by a flush shot to the chin, he was practically nundled to the floor lol

jeez some people on here lol

its only his 12th fight ffs

Thats not true, he was in a mess for a good 30-40 seconds after he got up, plus the fact is Limond has 8 KO's in 29 fights.

There no way Khan will be risked against Thaxton or Earl in his next fight

The Kurgan

07-16-2007, 05:47 AM

If he was hurt this way against Graham Earl, no-one would say he had poor punch resistance. Even Katsidis, who is musthard, was dropped by Earl. But Khan was knocked down by a light hitting boxer who didn't even hit him flush on the chin. Katsidis or Earl would have knocked him out inside of 3 rounds.

Khan's punch resistance is a china shop waiting for a bull. Did you see the way he dropped his hands around his body and cried out in pain? That would be answered by a single right hand by a world class boxer, and then... Goodnight.

I've seen boxers stopped for being far less hurt than Khan was. He can still go a long way, but he needs a chin protector like Steward to world on his defense.

BOOKA

07-16-2007, 05:49 AM

Thats not true, he was in a mess for a good 30-40 seconds after he got up, plus the fact is Limond has 8 KO's in 29 fights.

There no way Khan will be risked against Thaxton or Earl in his next fight

Such a mess that he stayed on his feet ?? it was more that he'd lost all composure rather than his legs were gone, he was shaken but not like he was staggering round the ring one punch away from being comatosedf lol

i think the fight showed he is still green but he went up a level and he learnt, now he needs a couple more fights similar to limmond standard and then step up again

bagman

07-16-2007, 05:51 AM

Such a mess that he stayed on his feet ?? it was more that he'd lost all composure rather than his legs were gone, he was shaken but not like he was staggering round the ring one punch away from being comatosedf lol

i think the fight showed he is still green but he went up a level and he learnt, now he needs a couple more fights similar to limmond standard and then step up again

on his feet but staggering around like a drunk.

The Kurgan

07-16-2007, 05:52 AM

on his feet but staggering around like a drunk.

And, to reiterate, against a complete non-puncher. Limond rarely gets knockdowns, and when he does it's from an accumulation of punches against fairly mediocre boxers. Either Limond learnt how to unload heavy leather or Khan just doesn't have the minerals.

Muskyrat

07-16-2007, 06:03 AM

best thing that couldve happened to him, it'll lessen the hype and he'll know he has to work on his defence now.
he was defo out of it though an thats gotta be worryin.

Vantage_West

07-16-2007, 06:12 AM

that fight didnt show whetehr or not he has a glass chin, the knockdown wasn't getting sparked by a flush shot to the chin, he was practically nundled to the floor lol

jeez some people on here lol

its only his 12th fight ffsi got to agree with you i do think he was buzzed the first shot did that but the punches after it were all on his chin and temple.

people seem to pretend that you are alowed to be hit by right hands over and over with out getting hit even if limond was feather fisted he is still throwing body wieght and malice behind those punches :think and these were 6 shots to his chin...and after all that he got up at a 5 count

BOOKA

07-16-2007, 06:21 AM

And, to reiterate, against a complete non-puncher. Limond rarely gets knockdowns, and when he does it's from an accumulation of punches against fairly mediocre boxers. Either Limond learnt how to unload heavy leather or Khan just doesn't have the minerals.

the minerals to get up and break the guys jaw ?

he's a young fighter who made a meal of a fight he was expected to win easily

but haven't we seen top class fighters make a meal out of avg oppositon ?

he won the fight, he'll learn from it, and his education continues

Sai

07-16-2007, 06:29 AM

He went down to a series of shots rather than 1. He was definitely hurt, but he had no problem getting up of the deck and breaking Limond's jaw. I hope they continue to put him in against live guys so he will have to rectify his defensive problems. He doesnt take a proper guard and sticks his chin out really badly. If he can put this right theres no reason hes not going to be a titlist.

huki

07-16-2007, 06:40 AM

the minerals to get up and break the guys jaw ?

he's a young fighter who made a meal of a fight he was expected to win easily

but haven't we seen top class fighters make a meal out of avg oppositon ?

he won the fight, he'll learn from it, and his education continues
The fact is that he got tagged by one punch from a featherfisted fighter and got hurt. Then he got hit by a few follow-up punches and fell. He was wobbly and even fell to his knees again after getting up the count of 8, only to get up again and look hurt for another minute. His chin is a disaster. It really sucks for him that his talent is so great, but his chin is so horrible. Imagine if he got hit by any real puncher, no matter how much heart he has, I don't think he would be able to recover from it.

I wonder who Khan is going to fight next. His team is going to have a hard time finding a good test and step up with zero power. Amir Khan should just try to milk his star potential as long as possible to make money before he gets Litzau'd into Audley world. I will be betting on him to lose by KO the next time he steps up in class no matter who he fights. His chin is just terrible.

The Kurgan

07-16-2007, 06:48 AM

the minerals to get up and break the guys jaw ?

he's a young fighter who made a meal of a fight he was expected to win easily

but haven't we seen top class fighters make a meal out of avg oppositon ?

he won the fight, he'll learn from it, and his education continues

It's one thing to make a meal of a lesser fighter: Ali-Jones, Hatton-Thaxton, Lewis-Bruno, Louis-Pastor etc. are all examples of this. It's another thing to get knocked down by a non-puncher who doesn't even connect cleanly on your chin.

His education continues, but remember the adage: you can't train a chin. :good

Carlos Primera

07-16-2007, 06:50 AM

khan is destined to get brutally koed in the near future.

4eyes

07-16-2007, 07:13 AM

I'm not a fan of him by any means but Delahoya got knocked down in 1 or 2 of his first fights right? and he turned out to have a pretty good beard AND NO I'm not comparing the 2 at all

Relentless

07-16-2007, 07:27 AM

he was doing the judah dance

huki

07-16-2007, 07:28 AM

I'm not a fan of him by any means but Delahoya got knocked down in 1 or 2 of his first fights right? and he turned out to have a pretty good beard AND NO I'm not comparing the 2 at all
Getting knocked down and getting hurt by a featherfisted boxer is a completely different thing. In my opinion, getting knocked down, but not getting hurt has almost no effect on someone's chin rating, but getting visibly hurt effects it greatly whether they fall to the canvas or not.

bigG

07-16-2007, 07:30 AM

Beatboxer

07-16-2007, 07:32 AM

Amir Khan the second coming of Herbie Hide

though without the power

and alot smaller

Relentless

07-16-2007, 07:33 AM

he got tagged....he got up....he stopped the guy....jeez, 12th fight, comonwealth title..pretty steep fuckin learning curve....i think the kid is gonna be one of these exciting fighters who can dominate but can be hurt.....he can only improve, but i hope he works on his style rather than try and become a defensive master cos of his chin......khan is destined for some really exciting fights.....

it was only his 12th fight?? then why the hell does he get so much hype?

if he wants people to think he is still learning then maybe he should't be calling out oscar de la hoya or floyd mayweather.

Decebal

07-16-2007, 07:42 AM

precisely!

madpup

07-16-2007, 07:53 AM

Take your favourite boxer and look at his 12th fight and compare it to that of Khan. Limond is actually a pretty good opponent.

Hopefully though this fight will calm the hype down a bit.

Chief_Second

07-16-2007, 07:53 AM

contrary to the above, i was impressed with his power and wily had a tough chin. he practically beheaded the guy! i've never seen someone that keen in a long time.

for one second though i thought he was doing the judah dance compalining to the ref while doing the queer street shuffle.

i would compare him to jnr jones in terms of speed power and serious lack of chin

Relentless

07-16-2007, 08:04 AM

Take your favourite boxer and look at his 12th fight and compare it to that of Khan. Limond is actually a pretty good opponent.

Hopefully though this fight will calm the hype down a bit.

lets see....

miguel cotto faught john brown in his 12th, a guy who has previously faced jesus chavez, angel manfredy, shane mosley, robbie peden and steve forbes.

oscar de la hoya faught for a world title in his 12th fight stopping an undefeated jimmy bredahl.

DonPrestige

07-16-2007, 08:09 AM

Firstly being only his 12th fight doesnt mean he still hasnt got a glass chin, it could be his 50th fight but a chin is a chin (who was really surprised by the knockdown really anyway). Secondly, give the guy credit he was horribly shaken but came back to really expose Limmond for the average fighter he is showing atleast he has some heart and that in the future he can get up of the canvas to win.

However, ultimately its only a matter of time before he proves to be the second coming of Naz (albeit less flashy which is why he's the Golden boy Naz wasnt) and he'll prove to be a pretty good level boxer but elite...NEVER. Its too bad ****** will protect him so much that that the hype and gravy train will continue for a good while yet.

BOOKA

07-16-2007, 08:22 AM

he was doing the judah dance

but he wasn't was he

BOOKA

07-16-2007, 08:24 AM

BOOKA

07-16-2007, 08:27 AM

At no point were Khans legs gone, ive watched it on the telly and pretty close up at the event it self, he was shook and he'd lost his composure but there's a big difference between that and the state Judah was in when he got tagged by Tszyu, its laughable that comparison is even being made

but nothings surprising on this board , its wall to wall jokers

BOOKA

07-16-2007, 08:29 AM

it was only his 12th fight?? then why the hell does he get so much hype?

if he wants people to think he is still learning then maybe he should't be calling out oscar de la hoya or floyd mayweather.

again lets deal with facts, khan has never actually called these fighters out has he ?

now stop being a sillybilly

DonPrestige

07-16-2007, 08:38 AM

lets deal with facts tho, you don't know whether he'l NEVER go onto be elite,you just think you do

He MIGHT NEVER go onto to be elite, or he MIGHT go onto be elite.

Your right I dont 100% know but lets be honest you can have a pretty good idea. Lets just look at footage of other elite fighters in their development and earlier fights and does he really look that special, I personally dont think so. But hey he could be a late developer and shock me but at the moment I'm not buying into the hype, Sorry.

Chief_Second

07-16-2007, 08:43 AM

BOOKA

07-16-2007, 08:46 AM

i think he just need to learn not to be so gung ho as he steps up, if he can curb that and be taught to be more tactically astute, I think he has the speed and power to do well, at the moment he thinks he can go in and blast oppoents away in a couple of rounds, but hopefully he's realised that isn't going to happen as he moves up the ladder.

Now he needs someone who can show him how to minimize his weaknesses while still making the most of his strengths.

DonPrestige

07-16-2007, 08:48 AM

i could see khan roughing up any fighter including maywheather as he has excellent offensive skills and speed. he's just lacking in many other departments and needs to take a step back for at least 2 years under a world class trainer.

I think one of the things he lacks is the ability to rough up an opponent. He has skill and some heart but still seems to not be aggressive and bullish enough for a Thaxton let alone a mayweather. Saying that though he does seem to be packing on the muscle and getting bigger, maybe in the future he might be able to rough someone up but not at the moment.

bigG

07-16-2007, 08:58 AM

...i think a good route for khan will be the domestic route cos its full of some pretty tough fighters who WILL test him......if he can reign over here, then onwards and upwards...i really do think the kid has a future, he obviously has talent, he can bang...and he may be a bit chinny....sounds like its gonna be a roller coaster career....

stake501

07-16-2007, 09:07 AM

He is great fighter to get behind because his chin is suspect. His offensive skills and suspect chin makes his fights very exciting.

Forget the hype, the hype is to make as much money as possible in the shortest time period, this is called professional boxing for a reason.

He really needs to create a defence though. ****** should abandon the kickboxer Harrison and get a class trainer in like Manny who is experienced in teaching young talented fighters the art of defence you would think Khan would have asked the defensive master Kindelan for some advice. The best thing about Khan is that he is 20 years old, has bags of talent, and is incredibly keen to learn, so a lot of it could come on. The chin however he was born with, but so was the heart.

scorpy

07-16-2007, 09:16 AM

I'm not a fan of him by any means but Delahoya got knocked down in 1 or 2 of his first fights right? and he turned out to have a pretty good beard AND NO I'm not comparing the 2 at all

DLH was first floored by Narciso Valenzuela ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) in his 11th fight but the guy had 35 wins witharound 25 kos... and this was a flash kd, Dlh was not hurt.

madpup

07-16-2007, 09:17 AM

lets see....

miguel cotto faught john brown in his 12th, a guy who has previously faced jesus chavez, angel manfredy, shane mosley, robbie peden and steve forbes.

oscar de la hoya faught for a world title in his 12th fight stopping an undefeated jimmy bredahl.

I was actually referring to British boxers, lost my bearings and didnt realise i wasn't in the British forum.

My point was, this was a pretty tough fight for a 12th meeting, all this hate Khan is getting is ridiculous.

Team_Calzaghe

07-16-2007, 09:22 AM

that fight didnt show whetehr or not he has a glass chin, the knockdown wasn't getting sparked by a flush shot to the chin, he was practically nundled to the floor lol

jeez some people on here lol

its only his 12th fight ffs

This is the second time Amir Khan has been been dropped by a featherweight puncher.

Khan doesn't have a chin and thats something you can't work on to improve. The only way to mitigate against this weakness is with a strong guard and great offence.

I wouldn't say its time for Amir Khan to call it a day but his weakness is clear and every other boxer who goes against him will look to exploit it.

One thing is for sure, ****** won't be giving him any tough defences for the next few years.

Regards,

John:good

SouthLondonsFinest

07-16-2007, 09:25 AM

for fucks sake, 12th pro fight, fighting Limmond who has only lost to Alex Arthur whos going on the world stage soon, give the kid a break.

chewy 22

07-16-2007, 09:27 AM

Khan should change trainer and fuck off to America, and get Manny Steward/Freddie Roach/Any Mayweather as trainer. This trainer he's got nows an amaueter trainer. No need to panic tho

Danny

07-16-2007, 09:32 AM

While Khan is still a work in progress, it should be noted that Limond is not a powerful puncher, not known for his punching power, & he had Khan really hurt. If Limond would have landed another right hand like the one that ricked Khan, it would have been over, no question.

As Frank ****** said after the fight: "those who think Amir is ready for a title shot, are obviously idiots. He still has the L-plates on".

All the talk of Khan saying he'll be world champion by the time he's 21, well, if he is to achieve this, then he's gonna have to improve on his defense a great dela in a short space of time.

Barry McGuigan even stated that Khan still has the habit of not having his hands up high enough. I feel the match-making of Khan will be scruperously done from now on. The commodity nearly all went belly-up on saturday. Fortunate for Khan & Co., Limond was not a concussive puncher.

The jury is very much still out!

Relentless

07-16-2007, 09:37 AM

I was actually referring to British boxers, lost my bearings and didnt realise i wasn't in the British forum.

My point was, this was a pretty tough fight for a 12th meeting, all this hate Khan is getting is ridiculous.

being british maks him different how?

Proud Warrior

07-16-2007, 12:24 PM

best thing that couldve happened to him, it'll lessen the hype and he'll know he has to work on his defence now.
he was defo out of it though an thats gotta be worryin.well said,he is young and tallented enough to get back from this,he showed good heart. If only the same had not happend to Naz then he might not of got so complacent cuz Amir will know the hard work ahead!

joe33

07-16-2007, 12:35 PM

well said,he is young and tallented enough to get back from this,he showed good heart. If only the same had not happend to Naz then he might not of got so complacent cuz Amir will know the hard work ahead!

Yes i agree,he needed someone to show him how tough boxing really is,no point whats so ever in doing guys who cant fight in 2 or 3 rounds,only to see his backers and fans and the uk media then hyping him to death,we all knew his first few fights dont mean much,from here on in though,its gonna be interesting to see what they do with the kid.
Hes fast as hell,has decent power,and i like his style,EXCEPT you do worry what will happen to him now,when ever he meets any one with a real punch,a few losses or bad knock downs like on sat night,will sadly see the media drop him,and people then turn on him.
He seems a nice kid to me,i was though getting worried when he began to seeminly believe his own hype,and slag off some good uk fighters,when he has done fuck all in the pro game,and beat no one worth a damn,the balls now in his court to prove any doubters wrong,id hate to see another harrison joke thing start to emerge,not in the fact hes shit like harrison,because hes not,but from the over hype and bad mouthing of other fighters,when you have yet to prove yourself,something audley harrison failed to really realise.

BoppaZoo

07-16-2007, 12:45 PM

Take your favourite boxer and look at his 12th fight and compare it to that of Khan. Limond is actually a pretty good opponent.

Hopefully though this fight will calm the hype down a bit.ok then well Kostya Tszyu in his 12th Pro fight, fought Angel Hernandez who had a record of (40-1-2) with 23 KO's.

so what is your point. if the hype's so big about this kid im pretty sure that Jeff Fenech won the the IBF Bantamweight World Title in his 7th Pro fight.

there my 2 favourite fighters all time.

Proud Warrior

07-16-2007, 03:22 PM

Yes i agree,he needed someone to show him how tough boxing really is,no point whats so ever in doing guys who cant fight in 2 or 3 rounds,only to see his backers and fans and the uk media then hyping him to death,we all knew his first few fights dont mean much,from here on in though,its gonna be interesting to see what they do with the kid.
Hes fast as hell,has decent power,and i like his style,EXCEPT you do worry what will happen to him now,when ever he meets any one with a real punch,a few losses or bad knock downs like on sat night,will sadly see the media drop him,and people then turn on him.
He seems a nice kid to me,i was though getting worried when he began to seeminly believe his own hype,and slag off some good uk fighters,when he has done fuck all in the pro game,and beat no one worth a damn,the balls now in his court to prove any doubters wrong,id hate to see another harrison joke thing start to emerge,not in the fact hes shit like harrison,because hes not,but from the over hype and bad mouthing of other fighters,when you have yet to prove yourself,something audley harrison failed to really realise.Well said,he could do alot worse than to spend some time with Ricky Hatton,not so much for boxing reasons more for the PR side of the sport,we dont tend to like mouthy fighters in the UK unlike the Americans(Zab and Mayweather) Not many people in the UK like Witter to much or would be bothered if he lost because he is a mouthy twat,Amir is a likeable lad with lots of raw tallent he just needs to focus on that,like i said in my last post the knockdown could be the making of him.

paulfv

07-16-2007, 03:39 PM

Here's the latest X-Ray of Khan's jaw:

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That could be a problem :yep

barneyrub

07-16-2007, 03:42 PM

Even though he won...? anyone see te fight?? i just read about it:huh

They showed some of it on a news report tonight and they put a clock onscreen and showed he got a 13 second count, only getting up afte going back down onto his knee on the count of 10!!!!!!!!!!! He should have lost.

Zakman

07-16-2007, 06:28 PM

Khan's punch resistance is a china shop waiting for a bull. Did you see the way he dropped his hands around his body and cried out in pain? That would be answered by a single right hand by a world class boxer, and then... Goodnight.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

So true. Look for Khan to get KTFO IF his handlers ever let him in with any decent fighter who can punch! :yep

Personally, I expect them to RIGHT back to the light-hitting tomato cans they padded his record with. They have an investment in this china-chinned HYPE JOB, after all. :nod

madpup

07-16-2007, 06:43 PM

being british maks him different how?

How many british boxers had a better opponent in their 12th fight?

dwilson

07-16-2007, 07:15 PM

They showed some of it on a news report tonight and they put a clock onscreen and showed he got a 13 second count, only getting up afte going back down onto his knee on the count of 10!!!!!!!!!!! He should have lost.

The fight was bent. He should have lost. I aint a Khan hater but that incident was a digrace and a a big shit stain on british boxing.