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KCD
04-27-2008, 06:00 AM
Just read in the news of the world newspaper that Khan and Oliver Harrison have parted ways.

Apparentley Khan is looking to hook up with Floyd Snr, Buddy McGirt or Freddie Roach.

I know the paper isnt 100% reliable but what do you guys think?

dan-b
04-27-2008, 06:11 AM
I remember the last time Freddie Roach decided to "train" one of our fighters he missed his boy take the whipping of a lifetime from Michael Gomez. Unless Khan is going to base himself in the States I just can't see how one of those guys could devote enough of their time to Khan for it to be beneficial.

kurt2006
04-27-2008, 06:23 AM
Should have done it a long time ago. He has not progressed as much as he should have and still needs to learn a lot.

mstar
04-27-2008, 06:31 AM
it won't work unless he is US based i cannot see any top american coachs coming over here everytime -just wnt happen unless he shows the trainers ££$$$$

brown bomber
04-27-2008, 06:37 AM
Oliver is a quality trainer, proof that Khan is getting above his station? Either way whoever takes over better teach him to infight because at the mo' its the weakest part of his game.

dwilson
04-27-2008, 06:41 AM
Oliver is a quality trainer, proof that Khan is getting above his station? Either way whoever takes over better teach him to infight because at the mo' its the weakest part of his game.


Who do you think he should go to then Jeff to improve the other weaker part of his game?

brown bomber
04-27-2008, 06:49 AM
Who do you think he should go to then Jeff to improve the other weaker part of his game? Buddy Mcgirt would be my choice, he did a fantastic job with Gatti and got his long and medium range boxing so sharp that he rarely had to infight.

Roach I think is not suitable.... He's more of a training assistant then a trainer in a sense that the guys he trains are all very experianced.

Emanual Steward has had too many bad nights at the office in recent years.

Floyd Mayweather snr seems the obvious choice should Khan wish to crack the american scene. Floyd jnrs infighting is superb and if snr taught jnr that then Khan might pick up something as well. Also with Floyd you have the Golden Boy connection.

So promotionally/financially i'd say Floyd but Mcgirt stylistically would be more suitable IMO. Either way Khan is going to the US.

robpalmer135
04-27-2008, 06:51 AM
Harrison has taken him as far as he can go. The mayweather can teach him defense, a major aspect of the game khan is lacking. Apparently Khan spared with Mayweather Jnr a few weeks ago in vegas, maybe roger saw something he liked.

He still fights exactly the same as he did against Kindelin

UK2004
04-27-2008, 06:52 AM
Floyd Mayweather is trained by his uncle Jeff Mayweather and not by Floyd Senior.

onourway
04-27-2008, 06:52 AM
I predicted this on the British forum a few weeks ago.

Khan's that sort of guy, I knew he'd seek a big named trainer.

onourway
04-27-2008, 06:54 AM
Floyd Mayweather is trained by his uncle Jeff Mayweather and not by Floyd Senior.

Senior taught Mayweather everything he knows though.

UK2004
04-27-2008, 06:56 AM
Not if you listen to floyd.

brown bomber
04-27-2008, 06:57 AM
Floyd Mayweather is trained by his uncle Jeff Mayweather and not by Floyd Senior.lol... Thanks Genius... Its actually Uncle Roger who trains Floyd Mayweather jnr. Snr trains De La Hoya. Snr trained jnr throughout his amateur career where he learned everything he does today.

brown bomber
04-27-2008, 06:58 AM
I predicted this on the British forum a few weeks ago.

Khan's that sort of guy, I knew he'd seek a big named trainer.:good you did - good call.

robpalmer135
04-27-2008, 06:59 AM
Oliver is a quality trainer, proof that Khan is getting above his station? Either way whoever takes over better teach him to infight because at the mo' its the weakest part of his game.

thats a very harsh comment agaisnt Amir as well Jeff. seems you critasice Khan at every oppurtunity latley. Plenty of fighters move on from trainers its part of boxing. Macklin left Graham a few weeks ago to improve his career, not cos he got to big for his boots

brown bomber
04-27-2008, 07:01 AM
thats a very harsh comment agaisnt Amir as well Jeff. seems you critasice Khan at every oppurtunity latley. Plenty of fighters move on from trainers its part of boxing. Macklin left Graham a few weeks ago to improve his career, not cos he got to big for his boots Fair point Rob.... I am a bit critical of him at the moment. Can't help being a little frustrated with his career development thus far. Could be a good thing that he's moving on! :good Time will tell.

onourway
04-27-2008, 07:03 AM
Jeff, I was reading the other day that you were close to fighting Khan. True?

How do you think it would have panned out?

brown bomber
04-27-2008, 07:09 AM
Jeff, I was reading the other day that you were close to fighting Khan. True?

How do you think it would have panned out? lol Very true.

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ST Annes boxer Jeff Thomas has been handed the challenge of a lifetime – against the new hero of the British fight game Amir Khan!
Thomas is poised to take on Khan, rated the most exciting talent in the world, at the Braehead Arena in Scotland in February.
The fascinating clash could even have taken place as early as December 10 in London – however, the 26-year-old St Annes box er was already committed to a promotion in Blackpool on December 14 and had to reject overtures from the Khan camp.
Though having to turn that date down, he had further talks with boxing agent Dean Powell, who indicated that Thomas would get the chance to fight Khan in Scotland in the New Year on a promotion headlined by Scott Harrison
It now makes it imperative that Thomas beats Baz Carey at the Hilton Hotel in Blackpool, next month on the first and only promotion held in the resort in 2005.
A fight against Khan would be by far and away Thomas's biggest pay-day, an estimated £5,000 – and an exciting assignment that will catapult him into the national spotlight.
And should father-of-one Thomas produce the biggest upset in recent ring history, it would seal his fame and make him a national hero, opening so many doors.
Thomas is determined to make the most of this golden opportunity, though he is under no illusion that he will start a massive underdog.
"I am so excited about the prospect of fighting Khan – in fact, I can't wait to fight and I won't be overawed by his reputation.
"I could have fought him next month on the undercard of the Audley Harrison/Danny Williams fight in London, but I had to turn it down because I was already fighting in Blackpool.
"I work on the doors in Blackpool and I have to deal with a lot of aggravation from guys a lot bigger than I am, so it is not as if I don't know trouble is about and at least on this occasion I will only have one guy as big as me in the ring!
"It is good money – by far the best I have ever had.
"To be honest, I could have done with the money from boxing in December, what with Christmas coming up and a young son, but in a way it is good that I won't fight Khan until February because it gives me plenty of time to prepare.
"I realise I am not in Khan's class – after all, he is one of the most exciting boxers in the world and I would have been kidding myself to think that I am as good a boxer as he is.
"There will be no point in going into the ring trying to out-box him and will go into the ring with the attitude of trying to take his head off.
"Craig Watson fought Khan last year when they were amateurs at Preston Guild Hall – Watson put Khan on the floor and I consider myself a much better fighter than Watson."
Thomas's immediate priority is to produce a convincing win over Carey, who himself has already faced Khan.
Carey took on the Olympic silver medallist at Cardiff in September, winning on points.
Thomas said: "It is up to me now to do a better job against Carey than Khan did in Cardiff.
"I am not at worried about fighting someone like Khan – in fact, I regard it as a privilege that I have been asked."


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Its tough to say I think I would have managed the 6 rounds but being well outpointed.... When I was a bit younger and keener, when I was say 6-0-1 I'd have possibly took a round off him or at least caught him with some decent shots. All heresay really.... I'd like to think i'd have done the rounds but who knows he's very, very good.

brown bomber
04-27-2008, 07:12 AM
Note the article was written way before Watson won the Commonwealth title when he was fairly unimpressive early on in his pro career. I think he was about 3-0 at the time and yes I was considerably less impressive against Carey then Amir. :patsch Sometimes you really wish you hadn't said anything :lol:

stake501
04-27-2008, 07:46 AM
mayweather snr would be a great choice, but can you imagine the attitude and the swagger after......if those who think Khan is big headed now, my word, they will be in for a shock once foyd snr gets a hold of him.

Fat Joe
04-27-2008, 07:52 AM
Jeff - Have you ever seen Ceri Hall fight?
If you have, what's your opinion on him?

IronBull
04-27-2008, 08:55 AM
I can confirm this is true that Khan is no longer Oliver trainer.

chesh
04-27-2008, 08:56 AM
Best fighter to come out of the Olympics since Leonard?? How about Casamayor, Roy Jones, Mayweather, Lewis, DLH, Gamboa? They all came after SRL.

faisal
04-27-2008, 08:58 AM
whos gonna train him for his fight against this danger man south african in june then?

BIG WORM
04-27-2008, 09:02 AM
I can confirm this is true that Khan is no longer Oliver trainer.
are you one of khans cousins

IronBull
04-27-2008, 09:03 AM
whos gonna train him for his fight against this danger man south african in june then?

Grrr. :patsch

He is not fighting him.

IronBull
04-27-2008, 09:03 AM
are you one of khans cousins
No.

faisal
04-27-2008, 09:04 AM
are you one of khans cousins:rofl :rofl :rofl

Akxtinguish
04-27-2008, 09:15 AM
Pity, I liked Harrison, but I guess it's part of moving onto the bigger stage. It would be interesting to see where he goes from here.

Its tough to say I think I would have managed the 6 rounds but being well outpointed.... When I was a bit younger and keener, when I was say 6-0-1 I'd have possibly took a round off him or at least caught him with some decent shots. All heresay really.... I'd like to think i'd have done the rounds but who knows he's very, very good.

That's the first time someone's not saying "I'd KTFO" . Then again, it's also one of the few times the prospect of a fight is actually real.

kurt2006
04-27-2008, 10:41 AM
whos gonna train him for his fight against this danger man south african in june then?

Only one man for the job......Mick Jelly.

robpalmer135
04-27-2008, 12:56 PM
Jeff do you think if you had faced Khan you might have more respect for him. Its seems alot of guys hes been in with like Lawton and St Clair weresceptical before, but very impressed by his attributes afterwards.

brown_bomber
04-27-2008, 01:03 PM
roger mayweather should train him

robpalmer135
04-27-2008, 01:47 PM
its gonna be roger.

faisal
04-27-2008, 02:01 PM
oliver did nothing for khan i honestly feel he couldv destroyed most of those guys hes beaten when he was an ammature, khans power hasnt improved a great deal i would have thought oliver would have taught khan to sit on his punches more,

UK2004
04-27-2008, 02:22 PM
Power is alrgely nautral Khan just doesn't have a lot of power he stops by accumulation of punches in bunches.

scurlaruntings
04-27-2008, 02:35 PM
I remember the last time Freddie Roach decided to "train" one of our fighters he missed his boy take the whipping of a lifetime from Michael Gomez. Unless Khan is going to base himself in the States I just can't see how one of those guys could devote enough of their time to Khan for it to be beneficial.:lol: Yup he preferred to train Manny instead. Not long after he and Roach parted ways. It will do Khan good to mix it up with US trainers but my attitude is if it aint broke dont fix it. Currently Khan is trying to run before he can walk. His a work in progress and needs time.

BIG WORM
04-27-2008, 02:42 PM
khan went to train with mayweather and now hes switching trainers? hes probably gonna train with roger mayweather and floyd

xoborp
04-27-2008, 03:49 PM
I Think it sad that Khan has parted ways with Oliver, but not surprised as Khan does appear to be getting above his station with all this talk of world titles.

I Met Oliver last year at a BBBOC metting in Huddersfield, and had a good crack with him and Mike Gomez, Shea Neary and loads more!!

What struck me about him was his self beiief in how Khan was coming on, remembering that during his Pro Career he has only really had one realistic scare, against limond, so was the split really necessary?

I think it rather unprofessional of Khan to do this at this stage of his career, and shows that the man has no loyalty or respect for Oliver, just big ideas.

I could understand it if things were going terribly wrong for him, but as the old saying goes, If it aint broke then dont fix it...

I can now see things taking a turn for the worse now at some stage after this, and i hope it is in his next fight, because when things start going wrong during a fight, and he comes back to the corner and it is a relatively new voice giving him the different advice that once worked with Oliver, it will all be too much for Mr Khan, and he will find out just as other fighters have done in the past that switching trainers is a big big step, and just puts added pressure on to deliver, knowing that people will be watching and waiting to say i told you so.

Forgert Freddie Roach, Mayweather ETC as replacing Oliver, there is only one man that could improve Khans Defence and tighten up his ring generalmanship, and that is Mr Brian Hughes.

Oliver did a fantastic job with Khan, and commands a lot of respect, and not to be treated in this way by some jumped up kid who is so far up his own ass that he has a fully furnished flat in it!!!!!:yep

brown bomber
04-27-2008, 04:02 PM
Jeff do you think if you had faced Khan you might have more respect for him. Its seems alot of guys hes been in with like Lawton and St Clair weresceptical before, but very impressed by his attributes afterwards. No because my critism of Khan is no his capabilities its the lack of ambition with his matchmaking.

brown bomber
04-27-2008, 04:05 PM
Jeff - Have you ever seen Ceri Hall fight?
If you have, what's your opinion on him? I haven't seen him fight mate. Looking at his record some decent wins... looks decent area class. Why?

LeadLeftHook
04-27-2008, 04:23 PM
I Think it sad that Khan has parted ways with Oliver, but not surprised as Khan does appear to be getting above his station with all this talk of world titles.

I Met Oliver last year at a BBBOC metting in Huddersfield, and had a good crack with him and Mike Gomez, Shea Neary and loads more!!

What struck me about him was his self beiief in how Khan was coming on, remembering that during his Pro Career he has only really had one realistic scare, against limond, so was the split really necessary?

I think it rather unprofessional of Khan to do this at this stage of his career, and shows that the man has no loyalty or respect for Oliver, just big ideas.

I could understand it if things were going terribly wrong for him, but as the old saying goes, If it aint broke then dont fix it...

I can now see things taking a turn for the worse now at some stage after this, and i hope it is in his next fight, because when things start going wrong during a fight, and he comes back to the corner and it is a relatively new voice giving him the different advice that once worked with Oliver, it will all be too much for Mr Khan, and he will find out just as other fighters have done in the past that switching trainers is a big big step, and just puts added pressure on to deliver, knowing that people will be watching and waiting to say i told you so.

Forgert Freddie Roach, Mayweather ETC as replacing Oliver, there is only one man that could improve Khans Defence and tighten up his ring generalmanship, and that is Mr Brian Hughes.

Oliver did a fantastic job with Khan, and commands a lot of respect, and not to be treated in this way by some jumped up kid who is so far up his own ass that he has a fully furnished flat in it!!!!!:yep

I'm skeptical about this as well. Khan will realize that most of the big name US trainers are all for themselves. How is it going to work? Are the trainers going to come to the UK or is he going to base his training in the States.

Harrison seems like a good man. Khan himself has respect for Harrison and always listened to him in the corner. In his post fight interviews he always credited his trainer in the interview as well.

To be fair though. There are enough voices telling him he hasnt developed much under Harrison since turning Pro. so he has to do what he "thinks" is best for his career before its too late.

elle
04-27-2008, 04:25 PM
Hope Khan has split with Harrison for the right reasons.

Was only earlier this month Harrison was quoted in the media voicing concern about Khan's celeb lifestyle and that he needed more time in the gym with him to work on his technique.

Wonder if ****** could be next? Think Khan's current contract with SN ends after his next fight.

KCD
04-27-2008, 04:35 PM
Hope Khan has split with Harrison for the right reasons.

Was only earlier this month Harrison was quoted in the media voicing concern about Khan's celeb lifestyle and that he needed more time in the gym with him to work on his technique.

Wonder if ****** could be next? Think Khan's current contract with SN ends after his next fight.


I was thinking the exact same thing. It seems that Asif Vali, the slimy toad looking 'manager' of Khan keeps contradicting Fwank ****** on what Khan should be doing next. As though Amirs management have other plans for him.

It also seems that people in Khans 'corner' if you will are trying to milk him for everything they can at such an early stage in his career.

xoborp
04-27-2008, 04:38 PM
i Do not think Khan benefits from an american trainer, and agree that they are all for themselves, regarding Khan having enough voices telling him he is underdeveloped by harrison, that is parr for the course in boxing and you will always get it, what you shouldnt do is listen to it, you should take a look at your career and if it is working, then fine, let the backstabbers go elsewhere and jump on somebody elses bandwagon....

elle
04-27-2008, 04:40 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing. It seems that Asif Vali, the slimy toad looking 'manager' of Khan keeps contradicting Fwank ****** on what Khan should be doing next. As though Amirs management have other plans for him.

It also seems that people in Khans 'corner' if you will are trying to milk him for everything they can at such an early stage in his career.


Well I wouldn't be at all surprised if ****** is the next to go.

Bet his newspaper column will make for some interesting reading if they part ways!

Fat Joe
04-27-2008, 04:53 PM
I haven't seen him fight mate. Looking at his record some decent wins... looks decent area class. Why?

After reading you were once talked about as a Khan opponent I looked up your record. For some reason I imagined you to be in a higher weight class.

Anyway I saw Hall and Gammer make their debuts and at the time Hall was expected to do well in the pro game. I thought you might know a bit about him because he is in the same weight class as you.

brown bomber
04-27-2008, 05:36 PM
After reading you were once talked about as a Khan opponent I looked up your record. For some reason I imagined you to be in a higher weight class.

Anyway I saw Hall and Gammer make their debuts and at the time Hall was expected to do well in the pro game. I thought you might know a bit about him because he is in the same weight class as you. I started as a super feather/ lightweight. I'm now light heavy and not fat lol.... :good Never seen him unfortunately but hopefully will do in the future.

Primadonna Kool
04-27-2008, 06:00 PM
Wow he should train with Roger Mayweather....

Fat Joe
04-27-2008, 06:33 PM
I started as a super feather/ lightweight. I'm now light heavy and not fat lol.... :good Never seen him unfortunately but hopefully will do in the future.

I'm sure I read a post you made that said you worked on doors, so I just assumed you were a big fella.

TheChamp1000
04-27-2008, 06:57 PM
If Khan bases himself in america with an american trainer is that a good move?

I think it would be fantastic if he could get a mayweather or mcgirt as his trainer and he learns and improves from working with them. He could become a good champion.

Dunno about the 'dumping harrison' bit, if khan feels he needs to improve and a new trainer is the way, whats wrong with that?

Rebel-INS
04-27-2008, 10:48 PM
He needs to work on his defence, I'm glad he's looking for a more experienced trainer.

brown bomber
04-28-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm sure I read a post you made that said you worked on doors, so I just assumed you were a big fella. No- big heart little body!!! :lol:

rooq
04-28-2008, 12:08 PM
i think he was hoping to become the youngest ever boxer to dump harrison as a trainer

achillesthegreat
04-28-2008, 12:20 PM
I Think it sad that Khan has parted ways with Oliver, but not surprised as Khan does appear to be getting above his station with all this talk of world titles.

I Met Oliver last year at a BBBOC metting in Huddersfield, and had a good crack with him and Mike Gomez, Shea Neary and loads more!!

What struck me about him was his self beiief in how Khan was coming on, remembering that during his Pro Career he has only really had one realistic scare, against limond, so was the split really necessary?

I think it rather unprofessional of Khan to do this at this stage of his career, and shows that the man has no loyalty or respect for Oliver, just big ideas.

I could understand it if things were going terribly wrong for him, but as the old saying goes, If it aint broke then dont fix it...

I can now see things taking a turn for the worse now at some stage after this, and i hope it is in his next fight, because when things start going wrong during a fight, and he comes back to the corner and it is a relatively new voice giving him the different advice that once worked with Oliver, it will all be too much for Mr Khan, and he will find out just as other fighters have done in the past that switching trainers is a big big step, and just puts added pressure on to deliver, knowing that people will be watching and waiting to say i told you so.

Forgert Freddie Roach, Mayweather ETC as replacing Oliver, there is only one man that could improve Khans Defence and tighten up his ring generalmanship, and that is Mr Brian Hughes.

Oliver did a fantastic job with Khan, and commands a lot of respect, and not to be treated in this way by some jumped up kid who is so far up his own ass that he has a fully furnished flat in it!!!!!:yep
Brian Hughes! Are you serious?

achillesthegreat
04-28-2008, 12:23 PM
Khan has undoubtedly improved under Harrison. It's plain for the eyes to see. Whether it is Harrison or Khan who improved Khan, I don't know. Khan has definitely improved though.

I think he could find someone good.

UK2004
04-28-2008, 01:03 PM
Read a lng while ago that Khan's cew were talking to Goldenboy.

TFFP
04-28-2008, 01:11 PM
I've never been a big fan of Harrison's advice in the corner, I think this could be beneficial. Mayweather Sr would be ideal, he needs someone to keep him on the straight and narrow with all the bullshit hype going off around him. He would also sharpen up his defence big time, the weakest area of his game

David UK
04-28-2008, 03:21 PM
Should have done it a long time ago. He has not progressed as much as he should have and still needs to learn a lot.

I agree 100%. I was never in favour of Harrison training him from the start. He hasn't addressed any of Khan weaknessess at all

Fat Joe
04-28-2008, 05:10 PM
i think he was hoping to become the youngest ever boxer to dump harrison as a trainer

I'm ashamed to say I spat my tea out when I read that lame joke

rooq
04-28-2008, 05:28 PM
I'm ashamed to say I spat my tea out when I read that lame joke

joke? :huh

elle
04-28-2008, 05:37 PM
I'm interested to know if it was a mutual parting of the ways or who instigated this split.

Presume if Khan remains UK based he will train at his own gym.

Somehow I just can't see him relocating to the States unless he takes his whole family and entourage with him.

WHU
04-28-2008, 05:37 PM
Why ditch your trainer how many times have we seen a decent prospect work his way through trainers and not reach his potential i truly believe in if it aint broke dont fix it. We all know Khans vunrebilitys and im sure Oliver is as capable of picking them out as any other trainer in the world. Personally i cant stand Khan and find him highly arrogant and i think he wil be found out when he fights a live opponent who takes him into deepwater.

Outboxer
04-28-2008, 08:08 PM
Why ditch your trainer how many times have we seen a decent prospect work his way through trainers and not reach his potential i truly believe in if it aint broke dont fix it. We all know Khans vunrebilitys and im sure Oliver is as capable of picking them out as any other trainer in the world. Personally i cant stand Khan and find him highly arrogant and i think he wil be found out when he fights a live opponent who takes him into deepwater.
It IS 'broke', though.

Khan has been hyped as a future British great -- our version of De La Hoya, the darling of the Olympics, although Hoya got gold and Khan got silver. For a supposed future great, Khan doesn't look quite up to par against domestic opposition, and we all know that fighters who went on to be All Time Greats -- more often than not -- completely blow away domestic fighters. Limond had him staggering all over the place and floored, and he also gets hit a surprising amount by other people who should be far below his level. His defense, above all else, needs serious tightening.

robpalmer135
04-29-2008, 05:30 AM
Strong rumours that its gonna be Buddy McGrit. He is currently training Paul Smith who has been on allot of Khan undercards latley. New York is not a mojor time difference for fighting in UK, or even Vegas. Would be sparring with guys like Mallignaggi. Flight back is just 4 hours!

Akxtinguish
04-29-2008, 06:05 AM
Khan has been hyped as a future British great -- our version of De La Hoya, the darling of the Olympics, although Hoya got gold and Khan got silver.

The Golden Boy will go down as an ATG.

The Silver Boy probably won't.

T.C.W
04-29-2008, 06:23 AM
mayweather Sr would be great for Khan if he can put up with attitude, his style would be perfect for Khan.

elle
04-29-2008, 08:13 AM
Just read that article on the Sun website - if they are accurate Khan's trainer was indeed sacked with a letter!

Apparently Harrison is bound by a gagging order that prevents him from speaking publicly about his time in Khan's corner.

elle
04-29-2008, 09:28 AM
Also read an article on the Daily Star website which again reports Harrison was given the bad news by letter - discovering he was surplus to requirements when he opened his mail Sat morning!

Seems some are a little bitter at the way it was done as letter was first Harrison knew apparently & Khan's people didn't have the decency to have a face to face chat about it.

Article suggests there was a disagreement between Harrison and members of Khan's team before the Kristjansen fight.

tko187
04-29-2008, 09:38 AM
Buddy Mcgirt is the man whos takin over! personally i think its a bad idea, floyd mayweather snr would have been the better choice. Just my opinion.

LeadLeftHook
04-29-2008, 10:17 AM
Just read that article on the Sun website - if they are accurate Khan's trainer was indeed sacked with a letter!

Apparently Harrison is bound by a gagging order that prevents him from speaking publicly about his time in Khan's corner.
I find that hard to believe. Its all speculation and heresay being reported, we dont know the facts. Unless I hear Oliver Harrison say this in an interview I will regard it as false news made up to sell paper.

LeadLeftHook
04-29-2008, 10:20 AM
Just read that article on the Sun website - if they are accurate Khan's trainer was indeed sacked with a letter!

Apparently Harrison is bound by a gagging order that prevents him from speaking publicly about his time in Khan's corner.

How convienent make up some BS and then say the person isnt even allowed to speak about it. Unless I hear it from Harrison I'm not believing that crap.

Undisputed P4P
04-29-2008, 11:15 AM
amir khan was over for the calzaghe fight and he chilled with mayweather for two nights, i have got this info from a very reliable source, he also said that in 15 minutes of pad works roger outlined every fault that amir has and was picking him off for fun. roger told him if you carry on like this you would get KO'd by a C+ fighter. he also said that because mayweather had not been boxing for quite some time he had lost his rhythm on the spped ball. roger told amir he is a bit busy and does not want to train him but told him to go to floyd sr, jeff or buddy mcgirt.

LeadLeftHook
04-29-2008, 11:27 AM
amir khan was over for the calzaghe fight and he chilled with mayweather for two nights, i have got this info from a very reliable source, he also said that in 15 minutes of pad works roger outlined every fault that amir has and was picking him off for fun. roger told him if you carry on like this you would get KO'd by a C+ fighter. he also said that because mayweather had not been boxing for quite some time he had lost his rhythm on the spped ball. roger told amir he is a bit busy and does not want to train him but told him to go to floyd sr, jeff or buddy mcgirt.
If thats what Roger said, it can easily swaye a young fighter. Cant blame Khan for making a decision thats best for him. After all hes in the ring taking punches, he has lofty goals and it isnt like a life long bond was broken. Harrison only trained him for only 3 years. So it might be for the best

I wonder if Khans progress had much to do with just natural progression due to experience than training.

robpalmer135
04-29-2008, 12:44 PM
Harrison has done very well in getting Amir into tremendous condition. Theres not many fitter lightweights out there. Dont expect Amir to stay at L/W long if he goes to the states, they do less cardio and more skill over there.

Also if Khans in New York 35 weeks a year it keeps him away from public apearences and other distractions. His friends there will be other boxers, his life will become boxing.

Max Molyneux
04-29-2008, 12:57 PM
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Sacked him by letter Is a cowards way.

elle
04-29-2008, 01:25 PM
you read articles from the Daily Star?

Clearly I read an article on their website as I made a reference to it in my post.

I came across it when I googled Amir Khan - one of the links it threw up was the Daily Star's 'Khan lands a write KO blow'.

LeadLeftHook
04-29-2008, 01:33 PM
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Sacked him by letter Is a cowards way.
Yes and I'm sure you can validate the truth to this letter.

Khan should be applauded for trying to make a move to advance his carerr instead of staying in his comfort zone. Besides better training under more experienced trainers, it is definately best for Khan to train in US to get away form this kind of made up "news" that just adds fuel to fire and all the distractions he has going on there.

Akxtinguish
04-29-2008, 01:39 PM
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Sacked him by letter Is a cowards way.

The Sun

elle
04-29-2008, 01:51 PM
Yes and I'm sure you can validate the truth to this letter.

Khan and his people could validate the truth.

They must read the headlines suggesting Khans split with Harrison was broken to him by way of letter.

If what is being reported is inaccurate they should come out with an official statement saying so.

Until then there is bound to be speculation.

Akxtinguish
04-29-2008, 02:09 PM
If what is being reported is inaccurate they should come out with an official statement saying so.

They might as well release a few hundred statements regarding what is said on ESB.

When it comes to credibility the Sun isn't exactly getting any awards.

Max Molyneux
04-29-2008, 02:22 PM
Yes and I'm sure you can validate the truth to this letter.

Khan should be applauded for trying to make a move to advance his carerr instead of staying in his comfort zone. Besides better training under more experienced trainers, it is definately best for Khan to train in US to get away form this kind of made up "news" that just adds fuel to fire and all the distractions he has going on there.

The Sun

The guy who covers boxing for the sun covered It for the News of the world and ****** moved to doing columns In the Sun when this guy did.

elle
04-29-2008, 02:23 PM
They might as well release a few hundred statements regarding what is said on ESB.

When it comes to credibility the Sun isn't exactly getting any awards.


The point is Khan splitting with his trainer is big news in boxing.

If Khan's people had put out an official press statement it may have prevented some of the stories that are circulating as to how and why Khan & Harrison parted ways.

jc
04-29-2008, 02:26 PM
Unless he is moving to America this is a bad move, we all know what happened to Arthur when he thought the grass was greener on the other side.

Max Molyneux
04-29-2008, 02:26 PM
Going to the US doesn't always mean much, Dunne and Duddy didn't become any better.

IronBull
04-29-2008, 02:29 PM
Khan's promoter Frank ****** will hold a press conference in London on Thursday where it is expected he will announce the Bolton fighter's new coach.

A Sports Network spokesman said: "We're looking to announce the new trainer on Thursday.

"Frank has been speaking to Amir about it. There were a few trainers in the frame - a couple of British trainers and a few Americans."

elle
04-29-2008, 02:32 PM
The guy who covers boxing for the sun covered It for the News of the world and ****** moved to doing columns In the Sun when this guy did.


Perhaps worth noting that the thread starter quoted the News of the World as the source for Khan and Harrison splitting - which turned out to be accurate.

Alex_NA_Exile
04-29-2008, 05:32 PM
Yes and I'm sure you can validate the truth to this letter.

Khan should be applauded for trying to make a move to advance his carerr instead of staying in his comfort zone. Besides better training under more experienced trainers, it is definately best for Khan to train in US to get away form this kind of made up "news" that just adds fuel to fire and all the distractions he has going on there.

Agree. Good move but depends more on who replaces him. Tbh, I and a few other posters have suggested this some time now ago :D

I'm sure he did dump him by letter but do you seriously believe that this hit Harrison out of the blue? I'm sure he wasn't dumped like someone getting dumped by text message. :huh

How anyone can believe that shit amazes me

PS Don't be surprised by posters on here using it against the all powerful and evil force that is The Khan. U should be used to it on here. :-(

faisal
04-29-2008, 07:11 PM
the worst punishment ****** could give khan is sticking him in with a monsterous puncher like Acelino Freitas if khan thinks of signing with another promoter

stake501
04-29-2008, 07:21 PM
never rated harison...great move if its to one of the top amrican trainers

elle
04-30-2008, 07:17 AM
Unless I hear it from Harrison I'm not believing that crap.

Seems Harrison has now spoken out - according to The Bolton News.

Harrison quoted as saying he has not had any contact with Khan since his last fight.

Thought they got on well personally and professionally but hasn't heard anything from Khan since April 5th.

He has just read what has happened in the papers.

Says it doesn't add up - doesn't understand why Khan has gone to an american trainer.

Khan's father quoted as saying he tried to contact Harrison fortnight before his last fight but Harrison didn't return calls.

Confirms they sent Harrison a letter informing him of their decision.

IronBull
04-30-2008, 09:50 AM
Khan's father Shah said the decision to bring in a new trainer had been made prior to the Kristjansen fight, and he was disappointed Harrison did not appear likely to remain part of the reshuffled team.

"Oliver has got Amir to this level and we felt that to get to the next level may take somebody from America," he said.

"But we would have loved for Oliver still to have been involved.

"Amir's amateur coach Mick Jelley is still a big part of Amir's set-up so that goes to show how we look after his former trainers. But we simply have not been able to get in touch with Oliver to discuss this.

"The only alternative we were left with was to put everything in writing. It was not the best way but it was the only way that remained open to us. We have a fight coming up on June 21, and we had to make decisions."

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brown bomber
04-30-2008, 09:54 AM
Little bit rude... i'm pretty sure oliver will get over it! He's already considered one of the best young coaches in the Uk.

robpalmer135
04-30-2008, 10:07 AM
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I am a big Khan fan but this stinks. Also the fact he has not been training or been in contact with Harrison since April is quite strange.


I would imagine some of the young guys coming out of the Olympics will sign with Harrison.

elle
04-30-2008, 10:10 AM
Khan's father Shah said the decision to bring in a new trainer had been made prior to the Kristjansen fight, and he was disappointed Harrison did not appear likely to remain part of the reshuffled team.

"Oliver has got Amir to this level and we felt that to get to the next level may take somebody from America," he said.

"But we would have loved for Oliver still to have been involved.

"Amir's amateur coach Mick Jelley is still a big part of Amir's set-up so that goes to show how we look after his former trainers. But we simply have not been able to get in touch with Oliver to discuss this.

"The only alternative we were left with was to put everything in writing. It was not the best way but it was the only way that remained open to us. We have a fight coming up on June 21, and we had to make decisions."


If the decision to bring in a new trainer was made BEFORE Khan's last fight they must have had access to Harrison whilst he was involved in Khan's preparation for that bout.

Don't really buy into all this 'we have not been able to get in touch with him'. Its as if they have forgotten where Oliver's Gym is....

To end a long association in writing and leave Harrison to read about it in the papers is poor in my view.

ScouseLad
04-30-2008, 10:15 AM
It's Buddy McGirt apparently. Sorry if its been mentioned.

elle
04-30-2008, 10:30 AM
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I am a big Khan fan but this stinks. Also the fact he has not been training or been in contact with Harrison since April is quite strange.


Changing trainers is one thing - it happens in boxing.

Khan's people going about it in the manner they appear to reflects badly and is no way to repay Harrison for what he has helped Khan achieve so far.

The fact Khan hasn't been in touch with Harrison since his last fight seems a bit of an 'off with the old and on with the new' attitude!

kurt2006
04-30-2008, 10:55 AM
Changing trainers is one thing - it happens in boxing.

Khan's people going about it in the manner they appear to reflects badly and is no way to repay Harrison for what he has helped Khan achieve so far.

The fact Khan hasn't been in touch with Harrison since his last fight seems a bit of an 'off with the old and on with the new' attitude!

Come on lets be real since turning pro the only thing Khan has done is improved his stamina. Boxing wise I see very little changes. I doubt Harrison alone was responsible for the improved stamina as Khan had access to fitness coaches, nutritionists etc.

Its good that the Khan camp have accepted he has not progressed with his current trainer and are willing to get a new person in.

elle
04-30-2008, 11:02 AM
Come on lets be real since turning pro the only thing Khan has done is improved his stamina. Boxing wise I see very little changes. I doubt Harrison alone was responsible for the improved stamina as Khan had access to fitness coaches, nutritionists etc.

Its good that the Khan camp have accepted he has not progressed with his current trainer and are willing to get a new person in.


Wasn't the point I was making.

I don't have a problem with Khan switching trainers.

Regardless of whether Khan has improved or not and how much or little of that is down to Harrison I think Khan ending their partnership by way of letter is a poor show.

Akxtinguish
04-30-2008, 11:25 AM
Regardless of whether Khan has improved or not and how much or little of that is down to Harrison I think Khan ending their partnership by way of letter is a poor show.

It's boxing, darling, he can't be giving him a bunch of flowers with a thankyou note hanging out.

Oliver would probably slap him if he did that.

mstar
04-30-2008, 11:36 AM
noooooooooo not buddy mcgrit no way!!

bad move amir

kurt2006
04-30-2008, 12:01 PM
No but he could have the balls to tell him face to face. And whats all that shit about they cant get intouch with Harrison. you telling me harrison is never in his gym? :-(

This is Team Khan we are talking about. The same Team Khan who stopped Khan putting on a charity t-shirt when he visited earthquake victims in Kashmir and whipped out a new reebok t-shirt so his sponsors could get publicity out of photos for a charity.

Probably his business manager wrote the letter. I guess he will be the next to go as the poor little chap does not even get to lead Khan into the ring anymore.

Team Khan (like Khan in the ring) are lethal and do things by the books.

Akxtinguish
04-30-2008, 12:15 PM
No but he could have the balls to tell him face to face. And whats all that shit about they cant get intouch with Harrison. you telling me harrison is never in his gym

Yeah I thought that sounded a bit funny. He's meant to be his trainer! If I was a pro I'd want to be able to contact my trainer at any time of the day.

In fact, Khan should be training!

elle
04-30-2008, 12:27 PM
It's boxing, darling, he can't be giving him a bunch of flowers with a thankyou note hanging out.

Oliver would probably slap him if he did that.


No one is suggesting Harrison should be sent a bouquet of flowers.

Telling him in person would have been the decent thing to do.

Recall you posting something along the lines of 'bringing back the humility into boxing' in a previous Khan thread.

Real shame Khan seems to be lacking the initial humility he displayed.

fg2227
04-30-2008, 12:30 PM
I wonder if Khan is heading down the same path as the Prince?

Boro chris
04-30-2008, 12:32 PM
Aaah who cares. What I could do with now is a hairdresser with big boobs and really short arms!

kurt2006
04-30-2008, 12:41 PM
Aaah who cares. What I could do with now is a hairdresser with big boobs and really short arms!

Dont think Dolly Parton does hairdressing and Barbara Windsor has had a reduction.

Boro chris
04-30-2008, 12:45 PM
Dont think Dolly Parton does hairdressing and Barbara Windsor has had a reduction.

Too old. Not into Granny Fanny.


Unless the rents due..................:think

faisal
04-30-2008, 12:56 PM
is this the same mcgirt that was in Jaidon Codringtons corner when he fought sakio bika in the contender finale? khans signed his boxing career away if this guy trains him

BIG WORM
04-30-2008, 02:21 PM
its buddy mgirt.. its on setanta sports news lol

Outboxer
04-30-2008, 02:30 PM
Buddy McGirt?

:patsch

Well, if Khan wasn't certified as an idiot before, he certainly is now. Of all the people he could have gone to...

is this the same mcgirt that was in Jaidon Codringtons corner when he fought sakio bika in the contender finale? khans signed his boxing career away if this guy trains him
The same moron that told Gatti to try to outbox Mayweather.

LB3000
04-30-2008, 02:31 PM
its buddy mgirt.. its on setanta sports news lol Yep, Setanta seem to think its Buddy McGirt.

Harrison baffled by Khan axe

Amir Khan's recently ousted trainer Oliver Harrison has spoken about his disappointment at being sacked by the Olympic Silver medallist.
Harrison has guided the Bolton fighter since shortly after his run to the final in Athens, including his rematch victory over three-time gold medallist Mario Kindelan prior to him turning professional.

Since then Khan has beaten 21 opponents, without being in any real danger - despite his flash knockdown against Willie Limond - and after his victory against Martin Kristjansen, is the mandatory challenger for Nate Campbell's WBO lightweight title. Harrison is baffled that in this stage of Khan's career they would change his trainer.

"We were just around the corner from a world title, which we would have won," Harrison told the Bolton Evening News. "I thought we got on so well on a personal basis as well as professional, but I haven't heard anything from Amir since the Bolton fight. I have just read what has happened in the papers.

"It just doesn't add up. I don't understand why he has gone to an American trainer. "I trained him for all 17 of his fights, which he won with 13 knockdowns. He improved with every fight." Khan is expected to announce Buddy McGirt as his new trainer at a press conference on Thursday.

Outboxer
04-30-2008, 02:33 PM
I do feel sorry for Harrison.

The least they could have done was tell him to his face instead of hiding behind letters and phonecalls.

LeadLeftHook
04-30-2008, 03:08 PM
FWIW i heard Khan's team were not happy with Oliver wearing a baseball cap with "Oliver's Gym" written on it during one of the fights!!
Thats just cannot be true! Changing a trainer because of a hat only 6 weeks away from a fight! How dumb is that...its anti-Khan BS!

Here's Khan advertising "Olivers Gym" !!! Look to the left it says "OLIVERS GYM" in BIG BOLD White Lettering! Its even Bigger and brighter than Reebok logo. We lay that heresay talk to rest.
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UK2004
04-30-2008, 03:12 PM
What has McGirt done at top lvel, trained Tarver who was always called a lucky puncher by knowledgable boxing fans and pundits then gets taken apart by old pa Hopkins, what has Tarver actually done, nothing in truth, beat the old 4 world title chances woods, few battles with glen johnson.

elle
04-30-2008, 03:18 PM
Think Buddy McGirt trained Audley Harrison at some stage after he suffered his first two losses.

Akxtinguish
04-30-2008, 03:36 PM
No one is suggesting Harrison should be sent a bouquet of flowers.

Telling him in person would have been the decent thing to do.

Recall you posting something along the lines of 'bringing back the humility into boxing' in a previous Khan thread.

Sorry about that, I think too much time in the East Side Lounge made me disrespectful.

You're right, I did call for humility. Khan was definitely talking too much and wasn't showing the sportsmans discipline outside of the ring, but at the same time sometimes I think he's picked on for things that wouldn't even be discussed for other boxers.

Of course sending a letter isn't the best method, but it isn't exactly scandalous.

Real shame Khan seems to be lacking the initial humility he displayed.

Agreed. I remember telling friends just after the olympics that it was good to see so much humility and talent hand in hand.

kurt2006
04-30-2008, 03:38 PM
Ha ha buddy mcgirt.

No wonder he has been over in the UK several times over the last few months.

elle
04-30-2008, 03:46 PM
Sorry about that, I think too much time in the East Side Lounge made me disrespectful.


No problem, thats one of the reasons I don't post on the ESB Lounge!

Akxtinguish
04-30-2008, 04:07 PM
Goaaaaaaaal Torres

1-1

No problem, thats one of the reasons I don't post on the ESB Lounge!

Its like the mafia. Once your in, you only leave in a casket.

elle
04-30-2008, 05:14 PM
Its like the mafia. Once your in, you only leave in a casket.

:lol:

Thanks for the warning!

I have no intention of posting there anyway but you've just put the final nail in the coffin!