View Full Version : Does anyone care about Daniel Geales IBO title fight?
Barge FTA
04-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Daniel Geale is the IBO Champ, yet nobody seems to care or acknowledge him as a champ. what does everyone think of the IBO Middleweight title?
Daniel Geale is the IBO Champ, yet nobody seems to care or acknowledge him as a champ. what does everyone think of the IBO Middleweight title?
My respect for you and the IBO as a sanctioning body are completely equal.
stingray7
04-27-2008, 09:07 PM
Both Calzaghe & Hatton held these "World Titles" and defended them. It didn't seem to do them any harm.
huricn
04-27-2008, 09:11 PM
Both Calzaghe & Hatton held these "World Titles" and defended them. It didn't seem to do them any harm.
spot on.
the IBO is alot better then the WBF.
Bentchassis
04-27-2008, 09:27 PM
Daniel Geale is the IBO Champ, yet nobody seems to care or acknowledge him as a champ. what does everyone think of the IBO Middleweight title?
Geale is an awesome prospect for Aussie boxing and his win over Dawson was a great display and widely discussed from memory, but it was his first real step up to date.
Depending on your opinion of Dawson, it's hard to gauge where Geale is at, other than to say he's always looked a highly skilful fighter, constantly improving with an already established pedigree, and as a result of his IBO belt is ideally placed (5#)to step up to quality international opponents.
I'd hoped that Geale would have fought a little sooner than late June and tested himself further against the likes of Taylor, Crampton, Soliman and maybe even Pittman (beating all IMO) before taking on top 10/15 world ranked opposition.
To a degree the IBO belt means opportunity to Geale rather than accomplishment.
If anyone knew who his next opponent was then im sure he would be discussed further.
Rise Above
04-27-2008, 09:42 PM
To a degree the IBO belt means opportunity to Geale rather than accomplishment.
Thats what I think. The IBO belt is a starting point for him and will ensure he gets some good fights and makes a bit of a name for himself before really stepping up in class.
The point is though, that it IS NOT a genuinely recognised world title belt. Its not part of the WBA, WBC, IBF or WBO. Therefore, he isn't a recognised world champion. I would relate his achievement more so to capturing a WBC International title or something similar. A stepping stone, yes, but not a true title belt.
Barge FTA
04-27-2008, 10:01 PM
My respect for you and the IBO as a sanctioning body are completely equal.
Thanks MSTR, I never knew the IBO were super studs.
Dr Gonzo
04-27-2008, 10:13 PM
Thanks MSTR, I never knew the IBO were super studs.
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Kegsy
04-27-2008, 11:17 PM
They have to fight an IBO top 50 ranked middleweight in his 1st defense, so it will be no mug.
The Grange team have offered the fight to an opponent that cannot be released yet.
Shortly all will be revealed.
Kegsy
04-27-2008, 11:19 PM
By the way i agree with Huricn, the IBO is far more important than the WBF.
Its more of a stepping stone for Geale onto bigger & better things.
Marcus
04-27-2008, 11:39 PM
Daniel Geale is the IBO Champ, yet nobody seems to care or acknowledge him as a champ. what does everyone think of the IBO Middleweight title?
Yes they do...............your just a hater.
Both Calzaghe & Hatton held these "World Titles" and defended them. It didn't seem to do them any harm.
I thought Calzaghe and Hatton held the WBO not the IBO belts :huh
huricn
04-28-2008, 12:37 AM
They have to fight an IBO top 50 ranked middleweight in his 1st defense, so it will be no mug.
The Grange team have offered the fight to an opponent that cannot be released yet.
Shortly all will be revealed.
if its the same guy i heard, it will be a great fight:thumbsup
huricn
04-28-2008, 01:11 AM
:think :think
Marcus
04-28-2008, 01:18 AM
He dissin you Huricn
huricn
04-28-2008, 01:27 AM
He dissin you Huricn
thats what im trying to work out.
but he seems smarter then to do that:D
Marcus
04-28-2008, 01:36 AM
Its cool Goldie, but IBO isnt too bad imo. I think Geale know it isnt a true world title, but im sure he is still proud of it.
Dr Gonzo
04-28-2008, 01:43 AM
Its cool Goldie, but IBO isnt too bad imo. I think Geale know it isnt a true world title, but im sure he is still proud of it.
I agree, and so he should be. Its all in the eye of the beholder, even in big time international sport. Ricky Hatton, Wlad, Tarver and DOnaire all seem pretty happy to keep defending their IBO titles :D
huricn
04-28-2008, 01:43 AM
hopefully i dont get moderated because im speaking the truth people need to get the old school warrior mentality back where they dont settle for 2nd best and micky mouse titles so there friends and family who know little about boxing can say my mate is a world champion!
anyone else out there willing to back me up?
"note" this is not about particular boxers this is about the mentality that alot of forum shadow boxers have!
mate i aint no forum shadow boxer, i am the forum KING:D
Kegsy
04-28-2008, 01:48 AM
Geale is using the IBO title as a launching pad to bigger & better things.
He has to start somewhere & i think his management is doing a terrific job at this stage.
Marcus
04-28-2008, 02:00 AM
mate i aint no forum shadow boxer, i am the forum KING:D
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
with his queen......Barge ????
Bentchassis
04-28-2008, 02:28 AM
kegsy its not about the fighter its about any millionare who decides to make his own sanctioning body because he's a boxing fan and those who arent anywhere near championship staus given the opertuntity to call themselves a world champion.
just because a named fighter who holds a mickey mouse title which he happened to recieve as garnish along with a real world title decides to defend doesnt mean shit in my book! of coarse there gonna promote it coz it means more revenue being a "title fight" do you get what im saying?
Forget this launching pad crap jeff fenech 7 fights champion among many other fighters who won real titles with under 10 or 15 fights its got nothing to do with how many mickey mouse titles one has gained on his way up!
While I agree with you in part, the theory doesn't really relate to this discussion, most of the guys in here, and im pretty certain Daniel Geale knows as well, that he still has walls to climb before being considered a world champ.
I would put to you, the majority of our fighters that have failed on the big stage have won regional titles before they fight Shane Mosley for the WBA or Roy Jones Jr for the fucking lot of them or Sven Ottke for the IBF or Sturm for the WBA and I could go on, so my honest opinion is it had alot more to do with either, bad management, fighters not ready and fighters not good enough than anything else so the importance of the IBO title is not as significant as the opportunity that it provides for Geale's situation.
Geale has simply been given the chance (as Kegsy braught to my attention) to now fight a top 50 (IBO ranked) opponent. Surely this is a step in the right direction to fighting better quality opponents possibly in other countries, where he can grow his stature internationally as well as adapt to different conditions etc.
By the way I wrote that while my customer is filling in paperwork, she's 73! :tired
Bentchassis
04-28-2008, 02:39 AM
if its the same guy i heard, it will be a great fight:thumbsup
No chance you could spill the beans?:hey
Kegsy
04-28-2008, 02:49 AM
you dont have to win an IBO title to fight anyone, title means nothing you say it gives him the right to fight a top 50 IBO the reality is he could fight a top 10 in one of the real sanctioning bodies if they pay for it!
simple as that!
Yeah well paying for it is not easy as u think mate.;)
Francis75
04-28-2008, 02:56 AM
No way in my book is Geale a world champion by beating Dawson for the IBO belt. Dawson wouldn't be one of the top 30 middleweights in the world.
Seriously, does anyone here consider Isaac Hlatswayo (IBO Champion who recently beat Medley for the second time) a Welterweight World Champion.
GIVE ME A BREAK.
He's not a world champion in my book either
Kegsy
04-28-2008, 03:01 AM
Im not calling him a world champion by any means.
He is using this title as a stepping stone towards hopefully gaining a proper big 4 world title.
WhataRock
04-28-2008, 03:22 AM
What do you consider Ricky Hatton when he wins the IBO title in his next fight?
Like all titles IMO the importance of the belt depends on the fighter.
No way is Dan a legit champ, he wouldnt even be a legit top tenner at 160.
Bentchassis
04-28-2008, 03:24 AM
you dont have to win an IBO title to fight anyone, title means nothing you say it gives him the right to fight a top 50 IBO the reality is he could fight a top 10 in one of the real sanctioning bodies if they pay for it!
simple as that!
Im not quite sure, at this stage of his career, why Geale would pay to be KTFO by Pavlik, Abraham, Sturm and Taylor and schooled by Wright and others. Simply put, he's not ready for what your suggesting he's not Jeff Fenech either that's for sure.
Francis75
04-28-2008, 03:36 AM
What do you consider Ricky Hatton when he wins the IBO title in his next fight?
Like all titles IMO the importance of the belt depends on the fighter.
No way is Dan a legit champ, he would even be a legit top tenner at 160.
Ricky Hatton is widely considered "the man" at 140lbs. That is the case whether he hold a "world title" belt or not.
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