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Stinky gloves
06-19-2007, 03:18 PM
OK, nobody can touch Floyd below 154 we should be realistic.
Cotto, Mosley, Hatton, Margarito they have tolls but they will probably
share DLH and lose as usually with a slight disappointing margin.
The real question is how high in the wieght can Floyd go?
Is he capable to beat onyone from the following guys?
Wright 154/160
Taylor, Abraham 160
Calzaghe 168
Dawson, Woods, Jones, Hopkins 175
Cunningham, Mormerck 190
Toney 240
Danny Ocean
06-19-2007, 03:23 PM
no 147 was im too high at first but he fought the guys suited to his weight
154 an fighting a guy like oscar was a big risk and he performed well
he imo proved his point now either retire as you say you will or go back to 147
Bazooka
06-19-2007, 03:25 PM
Floyd can go fuck himself!
Stinky gloves
06-19-2007, 03:26 PM
Toney's frame isn't much bigger than Floyds and he compete at HW.
But I think thats because he is old school fighter.
I'd actualy pick PBF to upset Taylor. Look at what happened in the Spinks fight. taylor scraped the decision. Now, I don't want to go down the 'PBF > Spinks, who did well, so PBF would beat Taylor', but it is possible. He has a stylistac advantage and being much faster than Taylor, he'd have a good shot.
Taylor's weaknesses and PBF's strengths.
Mayweather UD 12.
I would pick Floyd above there though. Not against any elite fighters unless he can add muscle properly, whilst keeping his speed and stamina.
Imperial1
06-19-2007, 03:38 PM
I'd like him to fight a prime fighter first before we start expecting him to go up in weight .
I'd like him to fight a prime fighter first before we start expecting him to go up in weight .Good point.
boxfan99
06-19-2007, 03:50 PM
OK, nobody can touch Floyd below 154 we should be realistic.
Cotto, Mosley, Hatton, Margarito they have tolls but they will probably
share DLH and lose as usually with a slight disappointing margin.
The real question is how high in the wieght can Floyd go?
Is he capable to beat onyone from the following guys?
Wright 154/160
Taylor, Abraham 160
Calzaghe 168
Dawson, Woods, Jones, Hopkins 175
Cunningham, Mormerck 190
Toney 240
Perhaps Wright at 154 but no one else. A move up to 160 would be a step too far, something ODLH knows everything about.
Ramshall1
06-19-2007, 03:55 PM
If he ever grew the balls to get in the ring with Winky at 154, he would get shut down.
Imperial1
06-19-2007, 03:56 PM
If he ever grew the balls to get in the ring with Winky at 154, he would get shut down.
With out a doubt Winky's jab would be Floyd's worst nightmare .
Ramshall1
06-19-2007, 03:59 PM
I'd like him to fight a prime fighter first before we start expecting him to go up in weight .
theres a thought. :good
KhanB
06-19-2007, 04:00 PM
This proves Floyd is getting too much credit for beat a clearly past prime fighter. Was Dlh really ranked that high in the jr middleweight rankings when May beat him? Im not even sure Floyd can beat Clottey.
Chiko_Tech
06-19-2007, 04:01 PM
OK, nobody can touch Floyd below 154 we should be realistic.
Cotto, Mosley, Hatton, Margarito they have tolls but they will probably
share DLH and lose as usually with a slight disappointing margin.
The real question is how high in the wieght can Floyd go?
Is he capable to beat onyone from the following guys?
Wright 154/160
Taylor, Abraham 160
Calzaghe 168
Dawson, Woods, Jones, Hopkins 175
Cunningham, Mormerck 190
Toney 240
He can go more hight smoke some crack and you will be sure he will be in the highest.
Imperial1
06-19-2007, 04:17 PM
Its fuot knocked funny how Jones Jr got slack for his opponents but no one has yet to really scrutinize Floyd's ..I mean off the top of the head the closet to prime fighters are :
Castillo
Chavez
And Maybe Judah ..
Club Fighter
06-19-2007, 06:52 PM
Floyd would lose to both Taylor, as much as it pains me to say it, and Wright. For the record, Taylor's a club fighter. He's just in a weak division. And don't tell me about Olympics and all the rest of that crap. He remains unseasoned with the benefit of both an amateur and professional career. His accomplishments far surpass his skill. I guess as my man Sydney Dean said, "Even the sun shines on a dog's ass some days . . ."
Pimp C
06-19-2007, 06:56 PM
After seeing Spinks give Taylor a close fight. I would say PBF has a chance of beating Taylor at 160.
Relentless
06-19-2007, 07:08 PM
pbf would beat taylor
Ramshall1
06-19-2007, 07:48 PM
No way FMJ beats Taylor.
Taylor knew he was ahead on the cards and for some stu[id reson did not want to look "bad". . . if he got behind on the cards he would impose his size and power.
Bangis
06-19-2007, 09:54 PM
winky can beat floyd
PH|LLA
06-19-2007, 09:58 PM
:lol: fucking noobs
Illmatic
06-19-2007, 10:01 PM
This entire post is ridiculous!
Cotto, Mosley, Hatton, Margarito all have more fighting chance at not only beating PBF but KOing him.
I would pray to god that PBF would go up to fight those guys in the higher weights, I would love to see him stretched out like that.
:lol::lol: Youd better hope someone else does, b/c no one except Mosley under 160 has more than a 5% chance against PBF
PH|LLA
06-19-2007, 10:01 PM
:lol::lol: Youd better hope someone else does, b/c no one except Mosley under 160 has more than a 5% chance against PBF
LOOOOOOL
yesihavearm
06-19-2007, 10:17 PM
:lol::lol: Youd better hope someone else does, b/c no one except Mosley under 160 has more than a 5% chance against PBF
Well considering Castillo's already beaten him, i'd say Mosely, Cotto and Margarito all have a good chance at beating Floyd. i think Floyd would still be the favourite in each of the bouts, but who knows.
Floyd's not unbeatable like everyone thinks. Castillo's basically done it once. Zab Judah took an easy first four rounds off him, if he kept that up who knows. To be honest, if Oscar had done a bit more he might have taken it. I shudder to think what prime Oscar would have done to Floyd.
thesandman
06-19-2007, 10:35 PM
So he's just won a SD against a guy that fights once a year at best, and now he's untouchable at that weight? Honestly, how high does ODLH deserved to be rated. If all you have to do at 154 to be the best is beat Mayorga, then there'd beat at least a dozen guys calling themselves the best......
Please. Maybe he should go fight Marvin Hagler next, and we could call him unbeatable at middleweight too.
Lance_Uppercut
06-19-2007, 10:40 PM
So he's just won a SD against a guy that fights once a year at best, and now he's untouchable at that weight? Honestly, how high does ODLH deserved to be rated. If all you have to do at 154 to be the best is beat Mayorga, then there'd beat at least a dozen guys calling themselves the best......
Please. Maybe he should go fight Marvin Hagler next, and we could call him unbeatable at middleweight too.
DLH's tenure @ 154 isn't that impressive.
His wins at 154 are against: Yory Boy, Castillejo, Mayorga and Vargas. Not bad, but NOTHING to make one suggest DLH was some beat @ 154. Ot that beating him makes THAT person the heir apparent.
yesihavearm
06-19-2007, 10:43 PM
I think maybe Floyd needs to step up to challenge Wlad Klitch...you know... just to make certain
lyricalmist
06-19-2007, 11:50 PM
i say wright beats him in a clear ud snoozefest at 154
bigtime9
06-19-2007, 11:53 PM
His wins at 154 are against: Yory Boy, Castillejo, Mayorga and Vargas. Not bad, but NOTHING to make one suggest DLH was some beat @ 154. Ot that beating him makes THAT person the heir apparent.
once again we have the sasquatch running his bowels about how beating oscar wasn't impressive. Yeah whatever a fighter starting at 130 going up to 154 to beat a top 3 guy at the weight is not impressive to a cro-magnon like yourself.:blood
Alo2006
06-20-2007, 12:09 AM
No way FMJ beats Taylor.
Taylor knew he was ahead on the cards and for some stu[id reson did not want to look "bad". . . if he got behind on the cards he would impose his size and power.
If Taylor fight Floyd like he did Spinks, Floyd will win :yep
thesandman
06-20-2007, 07:45 PM
once again we have the sasquatch running his bowels about how beating oscar wasn't impressive. Yeah whatever a fighter starting at 130 going up to 154 to beat a top 3 guy at the weight is not impressive to a cro-magnon like yourself.:blood
It is impressive, without doubt. I don't think anyone would question that.
It doesn't make him "unbeatable at 154 or below".
As you've made such a strong point at what weight Floyd STARTED at, what weight did Oscar begin fighting at?
Oh.....
psychopath
06-20-2007, 07:48 PM
How high can Floyd go?
He's max out at 154 . . . irregardless how good and skilled a fighter is . . . they are always burdened by physical limitations.
The 160 guys are too big for him. :yep
running man
06-20-2007, 08:04 PM
i would hate to see floyd move up weight when there great fighters who he has not fought. i think mosley would actually beat floyd. cotto would give him a good fight with his relentless style and hatton would be interesting although i think floyd would handle him. floyd fought very few top notch fighters, the best being an slightly over the hill de la hoya (who gave him a close match). i just think there are a lot of quality fighters between 140 and 154 that would be great fights for floyd.
achillesthegreat
06-20-2007, 08:54 PM
Wright beats him at 154 or 160. Winkys knows he is the bigger man and fights like it.
That sorry excuse for a fighter called Taylor shouldn't lose but if he somehow fights like he did against Spinks then he could. No point being naturally bigger and not using it.
thesandman
06-20-2007, 09:56 PM
i would hate to see floyd move up weight when there great fighters who he has not fought. i think mosley would actually beat floyd. cotto would give him a good fight with his relentless style and hatton would be interesting although i think floyd would handle him. floyd fought very few top notch fighters, the best being an slightly over the hill de la hoya (who gave him a close match). i just think there are a lot of quality fighters between 140 and 154 that would be great fights for floyd.
You're right. There are at least 4 or 5 guys that would give him an excellent fight at 140 or 147.
But obviously he has no intention of fighting them.
IntentionalButt
06-20-2007, 10:09 PM
Cory, Travis, and Ronald all beat him at 154, and he shouldn't even think about setting foot in a higher division.
younghov2k4
06-20-2007, 10:20 PM
yeah 160 is def too big.
i think Mosley and even Cotto from how he looked against Judah has a decent chance of beating Floyd Mayweather.
he needs to stay at 147 and try to clean up that division. im a big fan of his but if he sits back into retirement with those two out there then i say fuck Floyd.
Lance_Uppercut
06-20-2007, 10:32 PM
once again we have the sasquatch running his bowels about how beating oscar wasn't impressive. Yeah whatever a fighter starting at 130 going up to 154 to beat a top 3 guy at the weight is not impressive to a cro-magnon like yourself.:blood
Nice job avoiding a competant rebuttel. Probably because you had none.
He might not even beat Mosley at 147, otherwise he beats anyone 154 and below. If Winky can still make 154 he beats Floyd handily. Floyd loses to everyone else you mentioned, except possibly Taylor, and even then I would favor Taylor.
Cotto has a better chance against Floyd then Mosley does. Floyd has trouble with effective pressure. Cotto would give Mayweather big trouble. Paul WIlliams could be a tough fight for Mayweather also style wise. He would have to really fight on the front foot to get inside the long reach of Williams, which isn't something he usually likes doing. Otherwise this thread is ridiculous. Mayweather is too light to be really effective at 154. To even consider Toney at 240 is ludicrous. Like wise for Jermain Taylor. Taylor is a very big middleweight and would belt him all over the ring.
EricGN
01-09-2010, 10:46 PM
OK, nobody can touch Floyd below 154 we should be realistic.
Cotto, Mosley, Hatton, Margarito they have tolls but they will probably
share DLH and lose as usually with a slight disappointing margin.
The real question is how high in the wieght can Floyd go?
Is he capable to beat onyone from the following guys?
Wright 154/160
Taylor, Abraham 160
Calzaghe 168
Dawson, Woods, Jones, Hopkins 175
Cunningham, Mormerck 190
Toney 240
I don't think so and I think his maximum weight is 147.
kukoy
01-09-2010, 10:49 PM
OK, nobody can touch Floyd below 154 we should be realistic.
Cotto, Mosley, Hatton, Margarito they have tolls but they will probably
share DLH and lose as usually with a slight disappointing margin.
The real question is how high in the wieght can Floyd go?
Is he capable to beat onyone from the following guys?
Wright 154/160
Taylor, Abraham 160
Calzaghe 168
Dawson, Woods, Jones, Hopkins 175
Cunningham, Mormerck 190
Toney 240
Oscar fight was a great win, I'd give him that.
But I think the real question should be, how low can Floyd pull up a competition. Damn, he can wait a couple more years, maybe he can lure JuanMa into going up to welter. :deal
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