Ok Klitschkho fans, lets break it down.

[ChampionsForever]

Despite what you might think Im not a Wlad hater, out of the CURRENT belt holders he is certainly the best and Id love to see the guy start to unify and clear up the division......however the man has hes faults.

Lets have a look shall we, he has:

A bad chin/ability to recover from a shot. Argue all you want guys whenever he gets tagged or even clipped like in the Peter fights he either goes down or looks as tho he has been shot, the key tool to exploit this weakness is POWER

Bad Stamina Fuck all this "hes learned to pace himself" and "he was drugged" bullshit the guy just hasnt got decent stamina, some are born with it and some arent unfortunatly Wlad wasnt and can only fight at a set pace that HE dictates. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Pressure fighting/Body punching

Fragile mindset Ok I can see how this might be a stretch at a bad point about the guy but he hasnt got that confidence, or that determination that guys like Ali, Tyson or Frazier had. When he loses he fucking holds the other guys hand up in victory like he expects the loss.......like its no big deal and he expects it. If you ask me he doesnt have the greatest amount of self confidence when in the ring and it wont take alot for him to break. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Relentless punching accompanied by an iron chin i.e. walking through every shot that Wlad throws].

Now tell me, what part of the above isnt true?? and what part of the act doesnt Lamon fit?? Come July 7th alot of guys are gonna wish they took my advice and quadrupled there money :blurp:hi:

[BoxingGuru]

Klitschkohokokoho fans everywhere appreciate your expertise which started of course with the spelling of the name.

[ChampionsForever]

Klitschkohokokoho fans everywhere appreciate your expertise which started of course with the spelling of the name.

Thats my nickname for him.

[KillerInstinct]

Brewster won't be able to sustain the same beating he took in the first fight. Brewster has a punchers chance, and that is all. However, I don't see him landing that shot in this fight. Klitschko will be using primarily his jab throughout the fight and he won't tire out. Klitschko's jab is going to tatoo Brewster's face..however if Klitschko doesn't use the jab, then there is a good chance we will see a repeat of the first fight.

[1-Ton]

The same things were said of Lennox Lewis before he beat Mike Tyson. Now he is widely considered an ATG. I'm not saying that Wlad is destined to be an ATG, or even as good as Lennox (at this point). He has some hurdles to overcome. But he has the potential, and the right trainer to make it happen. I am certain that Wlad will beat Brewster this time around. But that probably won't change the minds of the anti-Wlad folks. What Wlad is lacking is a career-defining victory.

[dupin]

It would be better for the division if Wladimir would knock out Lamon decisively so I will root for him ... but ofcourse may the best man win. It will be a fans fight no doubt.

[fidds]

Waliking though every shot Wlad throws? Who the fuck can do that?

Oliver mccall :lol: no knocks him out :rofl but seriously i know what you mean:good

[RonnieHornschuh]

it would be good for boxing if wlad wins, what would happen if brewster wins? he will maybe make one title defense and then get outboxed by the next guy he can't land the deciding shot on. so no chance for unification. wlad has the will to unify, because that's the only way he gets the respect that lewis for example got.

[RUSKULL]

Thats my nickname for him.

How clever of you-NOT!

[Mr "T"]

Oliver mccall :lol: no knocks him out :rofl but seriously i know what you mean:good
Mercer had an "iron chin" until he turned 41 and ran into Dr.Steelhammer. McCall can't last forever, he did great aginst Sam, tho, and I wish him luck--he shouldn't fight Vitali--a Peter fight would be his meat.

[Heavyrighthand]

So who doesn't have faults? Especially at HW. This topic is pretty much useless, and i'd argue about his stamina and mental fortitude but i'm too lazy atm.

Bottom line - Wlad is unrivaled as of now.:good

This guy who started this thread lost his credibility when he said Wlad hadn't improved his stamina.

I guess he was moving so well, and punching hard enough to hurt Peter, in the last round of their fight, through sheer magic.

This thread is a lame attempt to try and rile up the Wlad fans.

Next topic.:blood

[Bazooka]

This depends on Wlad, really! if Wlad can not erase that loss from his memory comming in I give him no chance at all to win the rematch.
if Wlad can not control his emotions if he freezes or has a panick attack its over, if Wlad gets in trouble does he try to clinch or does he panick and un load tons of shots?
Brewster should be the favorite here, this is the way I am looking at it, This is Wlads first time out facing someone who beat him, and not just beat him but brutally knocked him the fuck out, the mental edge clearly goes to brewster here irregardless of what both men have been able to do in the sport since that means nothing going in.
What means everything is the mind set of Klitschko and the mind set of Brewster, I think both will come to win but I also think its a repeat, Brewster will come after Wlad and I just dont know what Wlad has to offer to keep Lamon off of him.
Remember if Lamon could knock Wlad out while he was at an all time emotional low in his life, due to the death of his trainer, imagine what he can do at 100%.
Should be a good one.

[Relentless]

:good

This guy who started this thread lost his credibility when he said Wlad hadn't improved his stamina.

I guess he was moving so well, and punching hard enough to hurt Peter, in the last round of their fight, through sheer magic.

This thread is a lame attempt to try and rile up the Wlad fans.

Next topic.:blood

wlad was jabbing and holding in that fight, tht does not prove anything, and so what if he thinks wlad hasn't improved his stamina?? how the hell does that make him lose his credibility????

you lost your credibility along time ago, i wont even go there......

[J_Roth]

Despite what you might think Im not a Wlad hater, out of the CURRENT belt holders he is certainly the best and Id love to see the guy start to unify and clear up the division......however the man has hes faults.

Lets have a look shall we, he has:

A bad chin/ability to recover from a shot. Argue all you want guys whenever he gets tagged or even clipped like in the Peter fights he either goes down or looks as tho he has been shot, the key tool to exploit this weakness is POWER

Bad Stamina Fuck all this "hes learned to pace himself" and "he was drugged" bullshit the guy just hasnt got decent stamina, some are born with it and some arent unfortunatly Wlad wasnt and can only fight at a set pace that HE dictates. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Pressure fighting/Body punching

Fragile mindset Ok I can see how this might be a stretch at a bad point about the guy but he hasnt got that confidence, or that determination that guys like Ali, Tyson or Frazier had. When he loses he fucking holds the other guys hand up in victory like he expects the loss.......like its no big deal and he expects it. If you ask me he doesnt have the greatest amount of self confidence when in the ring and it wont take alot for him to break. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Relentless punching accompanied by an iron chin i.e. walking through every shot that Wlad throws].

Now tell me, what part of the above isnt true?? and what part of the act doesnt Lamon fit?? Come July 7th alot of guys are gonna wish they took my advice and quadrupled there money :blurp:hi:To be fair and honest.
His chin is not the best, not the worst. I think he also has some balance issues. I believe if he had a horrible chin he would have been laid out not tko'd. Not a good chin that is for sure. Horrible chin=no.

Stamina-he ran out against Purrity and Brewster. I am a Wlad fan, but I'm not gonna go on about little green men etc. He was beaten end of story. How many bouts has he had and how many has he ran out of gas in? Doesn't mean he is horrible. So I'll rate it average.

Mind set. Alot of people look to his fights where he lost and say he is weak in this department. I also look to the Peter fight where he rose and won. So I'l give it the same average. Maybe a little sub-average.

What make him as good as he is.

Power. Above average in every way. One of the hardest hitters around. Jab. Above average jab. his tech is also very good. All these things together and you have a dangerous and beatable champ. If he can control his down falls, he will win. If he can't then we have Sanders/Brew/Purrity again.

[Heavyrighthand]

wlad was jabbing and holding in that fight, tht does not prove anything, and so what if he thinks wlad hasn't improved his stamina?? how the hell does that make him lose his credibility????

you lost your credibility along time ago, i wont even go there......

Oh,please do. Please go there.

I'd love to see if you can quote me on anything I've said that is as off base as this Wlad slamming post, which would cause me to lose credibility.

I'll wait.:blood

And this guy has most certainly lost credibility when it come to critiquing Klitachko. Anyone with eyes could see that he had very impressive stamina, movement, and punch output all the way to the last round of the Peter fight.

And for having a fragile mindset, I don't think his getting up off the canvas as he did in the Peter fight, and going on to regroup and beat Peter, quite handily, shows any sort of fragile mindset. Not to a reasonable and prudent person, anyway.

[derrick]

Despite what you might think Im not a Wlad hater, out of the CURRENT belt holders he is certainly the best and Id love to see the guy start to unify and clear up the division......however the man has hes faults.

Lets have a look shall we, he has:

A bad chin/ability to recover from a shot. Argue all you want guys whenever he gets tagged or even clipped like in the Peter fights he either goes down or looks as tho he has been shot, the key tool to exploit this weakness is POWER

Bad Stamina Fuck all this "hes learned to pace himself" and "he was drugged" bullshit the guy just hasnt got decent stamina, some are born with it and some arent unfortunatly Wlad wasnt and can only fight at a set pace that HE dictates. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Pressure fighting/Body punching

Fragile mindset Ok I can see how this might be a stretch at a bad point about the guy but he hasnt got that confidence, or that determination that guys like Ali, Tyson or Frazier had. When he loses he fucking holds the other guys hand up in victory like he expects the loss.......like its no big deal and he expects it. If you ask me he doesnt have the greatest amount of self confidence when in the ring and it wont take alot for him to break. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Relentless punching accompanied by an iron chin i.e. walking through every shot that Wlad throws].

Now tell me, what part of the above isnt true?? and what part of the act doesnt Lamon fit?? Come July 7th alot of guys are gonna wish they took my advice and quadrupled there money :blurp:hi:

Your 100% right! Great work you called it like it is. I couldn't have said it better myself. Your right Brewster is going to win this fight by ko.

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Despite what you might think Im not a Wlad hater, out of the CURRENT belt holders he is certainly the best and Id love to see the guy start to unify and clear up the division......however the man has hes faults.

Lets have a look shall we, he has:

A bad chin/ability to recover from a shot. Argue all you want guys whenever he gets tagged or even clipped like in the Peter fights he either goes down or looks as tho he has been shot, the key tool to exploit this weakness is POWER

Bad Stamina Fuck all this "hes learned to pace himself" and "he was drugged" bullshit the guy just hasnt got decent stamina, some are born with it and some arent unfortunatly Wlad wasnt and can only fight at a set pace that HE dictates. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Pressure fighting/Body punching

Fragile mindset Ok I can see how this might be a stretch at a bad point about the guy but he hasnt got that confidence, or that determination that guys like Ali, Tyson or Frazier had. When he loses he fucking holds the other guys hand up in victory like he expects the loss.......like its no big deal and he expects it. If you ask me he doesnt have the greatest amount of self confidence when in the ring and it wont take alot for him to break. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Relentless punching accompanied by an iron chin i.e. walking through every shot that Wlad throws].

Now tell me, what part of the above isnt true?? and what part of the act doesnt Lamon fit?? Come July 7th alot of guys are gonna wish they took my advice and quadrupled there money :blurp:hi:
i don't think that saying he imprived his stamina is bullshit. if he wouldnt have inproved his stamina then he would lose to peter like he did brewster. With Brewster he gassed after what was it 6 rounds. Against Peter he fought all 12 and against Peter he had to move a lot more casue after the first round Brewster just stood and took punches. Peter kept coming forward and Wlad had to keep moving all 12 rounds and he finished the fight fine. His chin is weak thats a fact but his stamina issues seem resolved and you said that relentless punching by an iron chinned boxer is the key to beating him. what wlad has shown is that he can overcome someone like that (sam peter) even with a weak chin.

[skier47]

:good

This guy who started this thread lost his credibility when he said Wlad hadn't improved his stamina.

I guess he was moving so well, and punching hard enough to hurt Peter, in the last round of their fight, through sheer magic.

This thread is a lame attempt to try and rile up the Wlad fans.

Next topic.:blood

You read my mind but Wlad always had good stamina. Prior to trainer
Steward he fought 6 foot 6 inch Jameel Mcline for twelve tough
rounds, Koed Jameel and was barely breathing hard in the interview
with Larry Merchant. His weird stamina problem with Brewster was
an abberation. I don't buy the conspiracy rubbish--vaseline, diabetic
shock, blah, blah, blah. Probably very simple explanation for that
one-off meltdown. A common, garden variety viral infection. We've
all had them. You feel pretty normal but are inexplicably weak
especially if your day includes some serious physical labor. I know
Wlad also died in the Purity fight but he was really green back then
and fought hard for what ten rounds or so. That was inexperience.
Wlad should come in like never before, totally amped to wipe the
floor with the dangerous Brewster. If he loses there is no excuses
but Wlad won't lose.

[Loufatski]

Despite what you might think Im not a Wlad hater, out of the CURRENT belt holders he is certainly the best and Id love to see the guy start to unify and clear up the division......however the man has hes faults.

Lets have a look shall we, he has:

A bad chin/ability to recover from a shot. Argue all you want guys whenever he gets tagged or even clipped like in the Peter fights he either goes down or looks as tho he has been shot, the key tool to exploit this weakness is POWER

Bad Stamina Fuck all this "hes learned to pace himself" and "he was drugged" bullshit the guy just hasnt got decent stamina, some are born with it and some arent unfortunatly Wlad wasnt and can only fight at a set pace that HE dictates. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Pressure fighting/Body punching

Fragile mindset Ok I can see how this might be a stretch at a bad point about the guy but he hasnt got that confidence, or that determination that guys like Ali, Tyson or Frazier had. When he loses he fucking holds the other guys hand up in victory like he expects the loss.......like its no big deal and he expects it. If you ask me he doesnt have the greatest amount of self confidence when in the ring and it wont take alot for him to break. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Relentless punching accompanied by an iron chin i.e. walking through every shot that Wlad throws].

Now tell me, what part of the above isnt true?? and what part of the act doesnt Lamon fit?? Come July 7th alot of guys are gonna wish they took my advice and quadrupled there money :blurp:hi:

It's not a matter of being a Wlad fan, or Wlad hater, it's a matter of common boxing knowledge.

Yes, Wlad's chin is suspicious, but that is because he's got a thin frame and lacks girth in his neck. A thick muscular neck helps prevent the neck from sudden twisting when you get tagged hard on the chin.

Wlad's stamina is good considering his heart muscle is working harder to pump oxygenated blood thoughout his "long" body.

Overall, Wlad is one of the best heavies out there.

[ChampionsForever]

It's not a matter of being a Wlad fan, or Wlad hater, it's a matter of common boxing knowledge.

Yes, Wlad's chin is suspicious, but that is because he's got a thin frame and lacks girth in his neck. A thick muscular neck helps prevent the neck from sudden twisting when you get tagged hard on the chin.

Wlad's stamina is good considering his heart muscle is working harder to pump oxygenated blood thoughout his "long" body.

Overall, Wlad is one of the best heavies out there.

All my boxing knowledge is pointing towards Wlad losing this fight im not just guessing and hoping, ive watched the two fight and have made my conclusion. Brewster could get blown out in the early rounds but if he doesnt then its night night for Wlad. Hes no 5-1 underdog this is an even money fight in which im swaying towards Lamon.

[Relentless]

Oh,please do. Please go there.

I'd love to see if you can quote me on anything I've said that is as off base as this Wlad slamming post, which would cause me to lose credibility.

I'll wait.:blood

And this guy has most certainly lost credibility when it come to critiquing Klitachko. Anyone with eyes could see that he had very impressive stamina, movement, and punch output all the way to the last round of the Peter fight.

And for having a fragile mindset, I don't think his getting up off the canvas as he did in the Peter fight, and going on to regroup and beat Peter, quite handily, shows any sort of fragile mindset. Not to a reasonable and prudent person, anyway.

i see you're smart, you want me to quote you now that all the old posts are gone.

[Loufatski]

All my boxing knowledge is pointing towards Wlad losing this fight im not just guessing and hoping, ive watched the two fight and have made my conclusion. Brewster could get blown out in the early rounds but if he doesnt then its night night for Wlad. Hes no 5-1 underdog this is an even money fight in which im swaying towards Lamon.

Wlad is an "A" level fighter, Brewster is "B" level. Lamon got "lucky" against both Wlad and Golota. He won't get lucky again. If I had to bet, then it's on Wlad.

[Relentless]

Wlad is an "A" level fighter, Brewster is "B" level. Lamon got "lucky" against both Wlad and Golota. He won't get lucky again. If I had to bet, then it's on Wlad.

what about ross purrity and corrie sanders, they are too are b level fighters and wlad got his ass handed to him by them.

[Boxfan1]

Wlad will stop Brewster with a cumulative beating. TKO. Brewster will come in swinging for the fences. I expect Wlad to let Brewster do exactly that. I also expect Wlad to focus primarily on countering Brewster. Don't expect Wlad to take the initiative for at least three rounds. I think he's going to focus on strictly counters early on. If he falls behind, then he starts to pick up the jab in the middle rounds. After he establishes the jab, he drops the hammer in round 8 through 10 and stops Brewster. IF Brewster survives, Wlad will transition into Muhamid Wladi for the last 2 rounds and just be content with sticking and moving.

[Loufatski]

what about ross purrity and corrie sanders, they are too are b level fighters and wlad got his ass handed to him by them.

You learn from your mistakes and you get better "grades". Boxing is boxing, anything can happen, as we all know.

[Relentless]

then why do you say brewster was lucky twice?? you didn't think he planned to win?

[kaygb]

Plain and simple, wlad is prone to panic attacks and he does have stamina problems. sure he lasted with Peter but he was hanging on him and clinching the whole fight. Look how he enters the ring and turns his body. Very slow and methodical. Every time he went down against Peter he would look around and get up very slow almost like a robot.
His mindset is cluttered with resting his body every possible chance he has because he DOES have stamina problems. That anxiety and panic will come if anyone can get beyond that jab and sustain a swarming attack to the body. Can Brewster do that? Probably not. He will have ring rust and his boxing defense is probably only average but the one thing he does have is a granite chin and a lot of guts. If anyone can get by that jab it's Brewster. If he does it's over for Wlad as his chin is sub-par and the anxiety will start to set in. If Wlad keeps him away it's over for Brewster.
The odds at 5 to 1 are ridiculous. The money guys must be drooling. You can not count Brewster out.
Good analogy Champions Forever. An excellent post! :good

[KillerInstinct]

All my boxing knowledge is pointing towards Wlad losing this fight im not just guessing and hoping, ive watched the two fight and have made my conclusion. Brewster could get blown out in the early rounds but if he doesnt then its night night for Wlad. Hes no 5-1 underdog this is an even money fight in which im swaying towards Lamon.

Damn, I have a completely different outlook on the fight. IMO, Brewster's best chance is to get Klitschko in the early rounds when he isn't in his groove. Once Klitschko gets in his groove, which is usually in the middle rounds, he is an awesome fighter. If Klitschko gets in a rhythm , Brewster has no chance unless he lays Klitschko out with one shot..

Atleast ChampionsForever is giving reasons why he thinks Klitschko will lose, complete idiots like "Derrick" always pick Klitschko to lose by KO just because he has a "weak" chin. Derrick hasn't picked the correct winner in a Klitschko fight in about 3 years, and it's a shame we have to have these sort of haters in this forum.

[Bazooka]

Wlad is an "A" level fighter, Brewster is "B" level. Lamon got "lucky" against both Wlad and Golota. He won't get lucky again. If I had to bet, then it's on Wlad.

What in the fuck are you talking about? as a challenger I doubt Lamon just showed up to get a pay check especially against a rising HBO superstar like Wlad, the man trained to win that WBO title and did so.
Now as Champion your going to say that he was lucky against Golota? Please, everybody knows Golota is a slow starter, EVERYBODY! which is exactly why when that bell rang you saw Golota get knocked out easily, Lamon jumped on him before Golota could get anything going, and some how you call that shit luck?
The Klitschko fans are the biggest gayest nuthuggers on any boxing forum period. They are worse than Both the Pac and the Floyd nuthuggers combined.

[ChampionsForever]

Damn, I have a completely different outlook on the fight. IMO, Brewster's best chance is to get Klitschko in the early rounds when he isn't in his groove. Once Klitschko gets in his groove, which is usually in the middle rounds, he is an awesome fighter. If Klitschko gets in a rhythm , Brewster has no chance unless he lays Klitschko out with one shot..

Atleast ChampionsForever is giving reasons why he thinks Klitschko will lose, complete idiots like "Derrick" always pick Klitschko to lose by KO just because he has a "weak" chin. Derrick hasn't picked the correct winner in a Klitschko fight in about 3 years, and it's a shame we have to have these sort of haters in this forum.

I just genuinely think he will get KO'd again, and if he doesnt then ill be the first to hold my hands up and take all the shit that comes with it :lol::patsch.

[joeboxer]

Despite what you might think Im not a Wlad hater, out of the CURRENT belt holders he is certainly the best and Id love to see the guy start to unify and clear up the division......however the man has hes faults.

Lets have a look shall we, he has:

A bad chin/ability to recover from a shot. Argue all you want guys whenever he gets tagged or even clipped like in the Peter fights he either goes down or looks as tho he has been shot, the key tool to exploit this weakness is POWER

Bad Stamina Fuck all this "hes learned to pace himself" and "he was drugged" bullshit the guy just hasnt got decent stamina, some are born with it and some arent unfortunatly Wlad wasnt and can only fight at a set pace that HE dictates. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Pressure fighting/Body punching

Fragile mindset Ok I can see how this might be a stretch at a bad point about the guy but he hasnt got that confidence, or that determination that guys like Ali, Tyson or Frazier had. When he loses he fucking holds the other guys hand up in victory like he expects the loss.......like its no big deal and he expects it. If you ask me he doesnt have the greatest amount of self confidence when in the ring and it wont take alot for him to break. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Relentless punching accompanied by an iron chin i.e. walking through every shot that Wlad throws].

Now tell me, what part of the above isnt true?? and what part of the act doesnt Lamon fit?? Come July 7th alot of guys are gonna wish they took my advice and quadrupled there money :blurp:hi:these are all fairly subjective. for instance, you point to holding guys hand up after he loses....isn't that good sportsmanship? he was knocked down by illegal punches from Peter, but he kept to his game plan. Wouldn't that show a tough mindset?
bad stamina? he went 12 with Peter and hurt him in the last round? shouldn't he have been gassed? you're mistaking punching oneself out by throwing 100 plus punches a round which is what Wlad does in the past.
bad chin, a good arguement can be made for a bad chin, but I think its fighting style that accounts for a lot of knockdowns.

by the way Lamon didn't walk through every punch Wlad threw. He got knocked down inthe fourth.

[ChampionsForever]

these are all fairly subjective. for instance, you point to holding guys hand up after he loses....isn't that good sportsmanship? he was knocked down by illegal punches from Peter, but he kept to his game plan. Wouldn't that show a tough mindset?
bad stamina? he went 12 with Peter and hurt him in the last round? shouldn't he have been gassed? you're mistaking punching oneself out by throwing 100 plus punches a round which is what Wlad does in the past.
bad chin, a good arguement can be made for a bad chin, but I think its fighting style that accounts for a lot of knockdowns.

by the way Lamon didn't walk through every punch Wlad threw. He got knocked down inthe fourth.

Well obviously he got floored, but the point im trying to make ishe has a damn good chin and can give aswell as he takes....can you say the same for Wlad?? This is going to be a very hard fight for Wlad and its one everybody seems to be dissmissing the fight as a dead cert. Lamon is a nightmare to fight, he came in at a career heaviest and had hes retina detached halfway through the fight and still gave the white wolf (who was in the best shape of hes life) the hardest fight he will ever have. If Lamon trains right and works on hes defense he will do it again I know he will :happy:happy:happy

[Gabriel R.]

Bad chin? No, I find it mediocre. Neither iron nor china.
Bad stamina? If you can go 12 rounds with a high punch output that's not what I call bad stamina. Or see how Klitschko looked after he beat Byrd in the seventh round: As if he had just warmed up. Maybe it's only like that if Klitschko controls the fight. So I would say, he doesn't lack stamina, but he lacks toughness and ability to recover.
Fragile mindset? An exaggeration. I agree that there seem to be some issues concerning his mentality. He seems to get into trouble if things don't go like expected. On the other hand he's very disciplined, very focused and very determined.

[El Bombasto]

Despite what you might think Im not a Wlad hater, out of the CURRENT belt holders he is certainly the best and Id love to see the guy start to unify and clear up the division......however the man has hes faults.

Lets have a look shall we, he has:

A bad chin/ability to recover from a shot. Argue all you want guys whenever he gets tagged or even clipped like in the Peter fights he either goes down or looks as tho he has been shot, the key tool to exploit this weakness is POWER

Bad Stamina Fuck all this "hes learned to pace himself" and "he was drugged" bullshit the guy just hasnt got decent stamina, some are born with it and some arent unfortunatly Wlad wasnt and can only fight at a set pace that HE dictates. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Pressure fighting/Body punching

Fragile mindset Ok I can see how this might be a stretch at a bad point about the guy but he hasnt got that confidence, or that determination that guys like Ali, Tyson or Frazier had. When he loses he fucking holds the other guys hand up in victory like he expects the loss.......like its no big deal and he expects it. If you ask me he doesnt have the greatest amount of self confidence when in the ring and it wont take alot for him to break. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Relentless punching accompanied by an iron chin i.e. walking through every shot that Wlad throws].

Now tell me, what part of the above isnt true?? and what part of the act doesnt Lamon fit?? Come July 7th alot of guys are gonna wish they took my advice and quadrupled there money :blurp:hi:

This coming from a Hatton fan?:patsch

[Heavyrighthand]

I hope these same guys who are picking Brewter to win are on this site on July 8th, to eat some crow. Cause there'll be plenty of it to go around. BIG portions. They can come back for seconds, even.

Wlad's toughest possible fight out there is certainly Brewter, and I think when Wlad destroy's Brewster, that should cement his position as the absolute best heavy out there.

Even the Derricks and Kaygeebees will have to admit Wlad is the man at heavy, then.

On second thought, since we are talking about staunch Wlad haters, I am sure they'll find some way to discredit the win;


-Brewster was blind going into the fight will probably be heavily used, even though his vision has been checked and cleared and is as good as ever..

-He's got alot of ring rust is another that I expect to hear alot, even though Brewster had an enen longer period of inactivity before the first fight, in which he beat Wlad.

[swedeone]

I just genuinely think he will get KO'd again, and if he doesnt then ill be the first to hold my hands up and take all the shit that comes with it :lol::patsch.


Count me in too. I couldn't agree more. :yep

[BoxingGuru]

Brewster is completely unpredictable like Judah. Chances are he'll get KTFO in 4 rounds. If not he gets a sustained 12 round beating.

I mean for god's sake he got a Don King decision against Kali Meehan.

[swedeone]

Brewster is completely unpredictable like Judah. Chances are he'll get KTFO in 4 rounds. If not he gets a sustained 12 round beating.

I mean for god's sake he got a Don King decision against Kali Meehan.

And also kicked the shit out of Wlad a couple years ago. How quickly people seem to forget. :lol:

[Boxfan1]

Brewster is getting stopped via TKO in this one. Just accept it a move on.

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I hope these same guys who are picking Brewter to win are on this site on July 8th, to eat some crow. Cause there'll be plenty of it to go around. BIG portions. They can come back for seconds, even.

Wlad's toughest possible fight out there is certainly Brewter, and I think when Wlad destroy's Brewster, that should cement his position as the absolute best heavy out there.

Even the Derricks and Kaygeebees will have to admit Wlad is the man at heavy, then.

On second thought, since we are talking about staunch Wlad haters, I am sure they'll find some way to discredit the win;


-Brewster was blind going into the fight will probably be heavily used, even though his vision has been checked and cleared and is as good as ever..

-He's got alot of ring rust is another that I expect to hear alot, even though Brewster had an enen longer period of inactivity before the first fight, in which he beat Wlad.
ive already seen many posts by wlad haters saying "brewster is damaged goods now" and "prime brewster beats wlad again" so their already gearing up.

[thesandman]

So, for everybody here saying the "Wald hatters" are getting their shit in now about Brewster, answer me this.


Do you think Brewster is in his best form right now?
Do you think coming off a hiding and a detached retina and a long layoff will have had some effect on Brewster?
Can you say Brewster has been good since beating Wald? (Or since Wald beat himself I should say??). He looked shit against Meehan and really should have lost, bum rushed Golota which was always going to work, then had the bejesus beaten out of him in his last fight.


I commend Wald for taking the rematch against a guy that has beaten him. But Brewster LOST his last fight. No way he can be considered "Wlads toughest possible fight out there." He's coming off a bad loss FFS.

[H .]

So, for everybody here saying the "Wald hatters" are getting their shit in now about Brewster, answer me this.

Do you think Brewster is in his best form right now?
Do you think coming off a hiding and a detached retina and a long layoff will have had some effect on Brewster?
Can you say Brewster has been good since beating Wald? (Or since Wald beat himself I should say??). He looked shit against Meehan and really should have lost, bum rushed Golota which was always going to work, then had the bejesus beaten out of him in his last fight.
I commend Wald for taking the rematch against a guy that has beaten him. But Brewster LOST his last fight. No way he can be considered "Wlads toughest possible fight out there." He's coming off a bad loss FFS.

All very true. Hopefully, after this "rematch", we can see some fuckin' unification, especially from a guy who has been talking unification for some time now, and then added that he'd fight Rahman this Fall. :verysad

[KillerInstinct]

Speaking of Brewster, I really think the guy has an overrated chin. People act as if he has a chin of steel, he does not! He has been hurt several times before in his previous fights, a guy with an iron chin (i.e. McCall) would never get hurt or shaken up. Brewster has a very good chin, but by no means is it that good. Brewster has the BIGGEST HEART, which is what keeps him fighting even when he gets hurt. But the point is, he DOES get stunned so I think people should put more emphasize on his heart, rather then his chin which has been getting overrated now-a-days.

[El Bombasto]

Brewster is completely unpredictable like Judah. Chances are he'll get KTFO in 4 rounds. If not he gets a sustained 12 round beating.

I mean for god's sake he got a Don King decision against Kali Meehan.

I think Brewster is very predictable. Most patient and skilled boxers can win a UD over him. Don't expect to knock him out. If you get sloppy or stupid (like trying to trade with him) he'll probably catch you and he has the power to knock a boxer out.

[Loufatski]

What in the fuck are you talking about? as a challenger I doubt Lamon just showed up to get a pay check especially against a rising HBO superstar like Wlad, the man trained to win that WBO title and did so.
Now as Champion your going to say that he was lucky against Golota? Please, everybody knows Golota is a slow starter, EVERYBODY! which is exactly why when that bell rang you saw Golota get knocked out easily, Lamon jumped on him before Golota could get anything going, and some how you call that shit luck?
The Klitschko fans are the biggest gayest nuthuggers on any boxing forum period. They are worse than Both the Pac and the Floyd nuthuggers combined.

I didn't mean to rub you the wrong way. I'm not partial. All I'm saying is Brewster is "B" level and Wlad is "A" level. Every fighter comes out to win. I've been following heavyweights too long, and I still say Brewster got lucky against Wlad, and against Golota. I don't know anything about any nuthuggers.

[1-Ton]

So, for everybody here saying the "Wald hatters" are getting their shit in now about Brewster, answer me this.

Do you think Brewster is in his best form right now?
Do you think coming off a hiding and a detached retina and a long layoff will have had some effect on Brewster?
Can you say Brewster has been good since beating Wald? (Or since Wald beat himself I should say??). He looked shit against Meehan and really should have lost, bum rushed Golota which was always going to work, then had the bejesus beaten out of him in his last fight.
I commend Wald for taking the rematch against a guy that has beaten him. But Brewster LOST his last fight. No way he can be considered "Wlads toughest possible fight out there." He's coming off a bad loss FFS.



That remains to be seen. Outside of the press conference, I have not seen 1 picture of Brewster. His camp seems awfully quiet.
Probably. But he needed the time to recover.
Outside of the Meehan fight; yes, for Brewster anyways. Let's not forget who Brewster is as a fighter. He historically gets outboxed and takes alot of punches, but wins on his power. Obviously he looked great against Golota, KO'd Krasniqi, and looked good against Liakhovich despite the loss (one could argue that he may have won if not for the eye injury).
IMO, Wlad is taking this fight because it is the best oppurtunity for him since there is no available unification bout. Brewster is the toughest opponent available, but I think you under-rate Brewster right now just because he is coming off of a loss, though. It was only a bad loss because he was injured. Now that he is recovered, I think he is just as dangerous as always. Now the Wlad-haters of course will sandbag and say that Brewster will KO Wlad again. But if Brew loses?.......well, that's because he is a shot fighter. Bullshit!! You can't have it both ways Wlad haters. So what is it? And if Brewster isn't the toughest available opponent, then who is?

[Tettsuo]

Wlad has improved his skills and will keep Brewster at the end of that long bomb of a jab. If Brewster gets inside, he'll tie him up.

Eventually, he'll wear Brewster down before KOing him. Brewster just isn't skill enough defensively.

[Shake]

Brewster will never see the 9th round in that fight. Straight right after countless jabs. Book it.

[1-Ton]

Brewster will never see the 9th round in that fight. Straight right after countless jabs. Book it.

Thats about how I see it playing out, too. Though I think Brew is going to try to go after him the first few rounds.

[Rudolph]

Talks of Wlad being overtrained and reaching his peak too soon from Steward's camp again. Just like before the first fight, they were saying the exact same thing.

Could be a trick on Stew's part. What do you guys think?

[Gabriel R.]

Talks of Wlad being overtrained and reaching his peak too soon from Steward's camp again. Just like before the first fight, they were saying the exact same thing.

Could be a trick on Stew's part. What do you guys think?

No idea.. In what way could that be a trick?

[Boxfan1]

Who's saying that. I was reading somewhere else that Wlad does alot of naked swimming in cold mountain lakes to avoid over training. Someone is lying.

[Rudolph]

It's here: [Only registered and activated users can see links]
but it's all in Russian :)

By "trick" I meant when Steward was saying how Wlad was trained for a second round KO over Peter when in fact the strategy was exactly the opposite.

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Brewster will never see the 9th round in that fight. Straight right after countless jabs. Book it.
:good

[Farmboxer]

Vlad is the best heavyweight in the world. Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows that. Vlad does not have a stamina problem, nor a chin problem either. However, Vlad will do his talking with a ring.

[El Bombasto]

Despite what you might think Im not a Wlad hater, out of the CURRENT belt holders he is certainly the best and Id love to see the guy start to unify and clear up the division......however the man has hes faults.

Lets have a look shall we, he has:

A bad chin/ability to recover from a shot. Argue all you want guys whenever he gets tagged or even clipped like in the Peter fights he either goes down or looks as tho he has been shot, the key tool to exploit this weakness is POWER

Bad Stamina Fuck all this "hes learned to pace himself" and "he was drugged" bullshit the guy just hasnt got decent stamina, some are born with it and some arent unfortunatly Wlad wasnt and can only fight at a set pace that HE dictates. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Pressure fighting/Body punching

Fragile mindset Ok I can see how this might be a stretch at a bad point about the guy but he hasnt got that confidence, or that determination that guys like Ali, Tyson or Frazier had. When he loses he fucking holds the other guys hand up in victory like he expects the loss.......like its no big deal and he expects it. If you ask me he doesnt have the greatest amount of self confidence when in the ring and it wont take alot for him to break. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Relentless punching accompanied by an iron chin i.e. walking through every shot that Wlad throws].

Now tell me, what part of the above isnt true?? and what part of the act doesnt Lamon fit?? Come July 7th alot of guys are gonna wish they took my advice and quadrupled there money :blurp:hi:

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[Daruf]

Have to admit Wlad does have a awefully fragile look about him there.

[Rock0052]

Have to admit Wlad does have a awefully fragile look about him there.

Agreed. No way he lasts more than 2 rounds before Brewster destroys him.

[steven_z]

Despite what you might think Im not a Wlad hater, out of the CURRENT belt holders he is certainly the best and Id love to see the guy start to unify and clear up the division......however the man has hes faults.

Lets have a look shall we, he has:

A bad chin/ability to recover from a shot. Argue all you want guys whenever he gets tagged or even clipped like in the Peter fights he either goes down or looks as tho he has been shot, the key tool to exploit this weakness is POWER

Bad Stamina Fuck all this "hes learned to pace himself" and "he was drugged" bullshit the guy just hasnt got decent stamina, some are born with it and some arent unfortunatly Wlad wasnt and can only fight at a set pace that HE dictates. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Pressure fighting/Body punching

Fragile mindset Ok I can see how this might be a stretch at a bad point about the guy but he hasnt got that confidence, or that determination that guys like Ali, Tyson or Frazier had. When he loses he fucking holds the other guys hand up in victory like he expects the loss.......like its no big deal and he expects it. If you ask me he doesnt have the greatest amount of self confidence when in the ring and it wont take alot for him to break. The key tool to exploit this weakness is Relentless punching accompanied by an iron chin i.e. walking through every shot that Wlad throws].

Now tell me, what part of the above isnt true?? and what part of the act doesnt Lamon fit?? Come July 7th alot of guys are gonna wish they took my advice and quadrupled there money :blurp:hi:
Now, after Wlad-Brewster 2 do you see how stupid you are?