Guess the fighter...

[Decebal]

He is currently an active Top 50 p4p fighter who has AT LEAST:

above average (B) chin
above average (B) power
very good (B+) defence
great (A) heartHe is a very good (B+) technical boxer who also likes to brawl and go toe-to-toe Mexican style from time to time; he certainly doesn't back out of such a fight.

His style is relentless.

Who is he?

[Undisputed P4P]

He has an above average chin and power.

He is a very good boxer, technically, but he likes to brawl and to go toe-to-toe Mexican style too.

He has a very good defence.

He is relentless and has the heart of a lion.

He is a Top 50 p4p fighter.

juan manuel marquez

[circleinsideabo]

He has an above average chin and power.

He is a very good boxer, technically, but he likes to brawl and to go toe-to-toe Mexican style too.

He has a very good defence.

He is relentless and has the heart of a lion.

He is a Top 50 p4p fighter.

antonio margarito

[JAB5239]

He has an above average chin and power.

He is a very good boxer, technically, but he likes to brawl and to go toe-to-toe Mexican style too.

He has a very good defence.

He is relentless and has the heart of a lion.

He is a Top 50 p4p fighter.


Shane Mosley?

[WhataRock]

Im guessing its Diancou if its you starting the thread Dec.

[Decebal]

juan manuel marquez

He has a crappy chin and not much power.

It's not him.

[McGrain]

He has a crappy chin

Bit strong.

Pavlik?

[Decebal]

Im guessing its Diancou if its you starting the thread Dec.

:nono

Diaconu isn't very good boxer technically. Certainly not him.

[McGrain]

Sorry, missed the defence part...

[Decebal]

antonio margarito

Very good boxer? Very good technically?

[Decebal]

Shane Mosley?

Not bad! Closest answer so far...:good

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

miguel cotto

[JAB5239]

Cotto?

[Decebal]

julio ceasar chavez:deal

He is not p4p top 50, is he? Long time gone.

[Decebal]

miguel cotto

Is his defence really that good? Is his chin above average? Not bad, though...close!

[tragicliston]

He is not p4p top 50, is he? Long time gone.

That part was unclear. I didn't know if your meant currently or all time.

I'd guess Cotto or Calzaghe.

[bratwurzt]

Audley Harrison

[Decebal]

That part was unclear. I didn't know if your meant currently or all time.

I'd guess Cotto or Calzaghe.

Sorry...current. I only talk current.;)

Calzaghe? He doesn't have above average power...

[peter5]

He has an above average chin and power.

He is a very good boxer, technically, but he likes to brawl and to go toe-to-toe Mexican style too.

He has a very good defence.

He is relentless and has the heart of a lion.

He is a current Top 50 p4p fighter.

Mijares? Although he dont have power :bart For fucks sake Dec! Youve made me engage my brain, and Ive finished work!

[Decebal]

Audley Harrison

:happy :happy :happy :happy :happy

....no.:verysad

[Decebal]

Mijares? Although he dont have power :bart

It's not Mijares...he doesn't have power and his defence ain't that great.

[SugarShane_24]

My Answer would be Holyfield.

[Decebal]

My Answer would be Holyfield.

He's no way close to top 50 p4p presently.

[onourway]

Juan Diaz.

[JAB5239]

Arthur Abraham?

[peter5]

Guzman

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

nate campbell i know i am pushin it

[Johnnyblaze]

sounds like maybe glen johnson??

[SugarShane_24]

He's no way close to top 50 p4p presently.

Then it's MAB or PBF.

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

Then it's MAB or PBF.

i dont think pbf likes toe to toe mexican style

[PH|LLA]

Cotto fits in all these criteria

above average power - check
above average chin - check
very good boxer technically - check
loves to brawl and go toe to toe - check
relentless - check
heart of a lion - check
top50 p4p - check

[peter5]

Then it's MAB or PBF.

PBF doesnt go toe2toe, either does my last pick Guzman! Im getting pissed off with this! :p

[peter5]

an outside guess, Steve Molitor? Was talking about him the other day in fact

[JAB5239]

Nonito Donaire?

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

Nonito Donaire?

i like this pick too

[Grant1]

Ricky Hatton ?

[PH|LLA]

Shane Mosley also

[peter5]

Ricky Hatton ?

Great defence???

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

Shane Mosley also

already mentioned

[Grant1]

Great defence???

yes - he stops lots of punches with his head.

[peter5]

yes - he stops lots of punches with his head.

:lol: He does

[peter5]

Its not Jorge Linares is it?

[truewarrior]

Is this guy mexican or does he just fight mexican style?

[doug.ie]

Marco Antonio Barrera ??...still officially active..

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

kelly pavlik (not sure about defense tho)

[Decebal]

Marco Antonio Barrera ??...still officially active..

He's not Top 50.

[Decebal]

kelly pavlik (not sure about defense tho)

not very good defence.

[hmi]

Gamboa, of course.

[Brickhaus]

He is currently an active Top 50 p4p fighter who has:
above average (B) chin
above average (B) power
very good (B+) defence
great (A) heartHe is a very good (B+) technical boxer who also likes to brawl and go toe-to-toe Mexican style from time to time; he certainly doesn't back out of such a fight.

His style is relentless.

Who is he?
Guys who could fit this description:

Arthur Abraham
Archie Solis
Miguel Cotto
Bernard Hopkins (although he hasn't exactly gone 'Mexican style' in the past 5 years)
Rafael Marquez at 118
Alexander Munoz
Daisuke Naito
Maybe Tomasz Adamek, although I still question his chin at cruiser.
Maybe Herman Ngodjo, although I'm not sure he's top 50 P4P, although he could arguably be undefeated.

Abraham was the first guy who came to mind though.


I'm betting Decebal is getting to Lucian Bute, but if he is, then I think he's overrating his defense.

[Decebal]

Gamboa, of course.

Not Top 50

[peter5]

not very good defence.

you going to give us any more clues DEC? :hey

[Decebal]

Guys who could fit this description:

Arthur Abraham - not very good (B+) defence
Archie Solis ???
Miguel Cotto
Bernard Hopkins (although he hasn't exactly gone 'Mexican style' in the past 5 years) - no way
Rafael Marquez at 118
Alexander Munoz
Daisuke Naito

Abraham was the first guy who came to mind though.


I'm betting Decebal is getting to Lucian Bute, but if he is, then I think he's overrating his defense.

Bute doesn't have very good defence. He also doesn't exactly like to brawl toe-to-toe...does he?

[doug.ie]

Guzman

i thought guzman too...but his wide swings...and open defense at times didnt seem to fit...you're probably right now :-)

[hmi]

Not Top 50 He is top 50 for me. :smoke What else he did not have in your criteria?

[Brickhaus]

Bute doesn't have very good defence. He also doesn't exactly like to brawl toe-to-toe...does he?
Ngodjo then? Or also not top 50?

Edit: Guess I wouldn't call him a power puncher.

I feel like Donaire misses the mark on defense, and Molitor misses the mark on power/brawling.

And BTW, Archie Solis is a champ at 108, Jorge's brother.

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[Decebal]

Ngodjo then? Or also not top 50?

Not top 50.

[onourway]

Decebal, you never replied to about 10 picks on page 3.

[BewareofDawg]

He is currently an active Top 50 p4p fighter who has:

above average (B) chin
above average (B) power
very good (B+) defence
great (A) heartHe is a very good (B+) technical boxer who also likes to brawl and go toe-to-toe Mexican style from time to time; he certainly doesn't back out of such a fight.

His style is relentless.

Who is he?
Hatton

[zander]

oscar de la hoya or tito

[BewareofDawg]

He's not Top 50.
You mean currently? There are NOT 50 better fighters currently active then MAB, sorry.

[doug.ie]

Jorge Linares ??

[BewareofDawg]

oscar de la hoya or tito
Hoya's chin is A - he's out
Tito's power is A - he's out

[Decebal]

You mean currently? There are NOT 50 better fighters currently active then MAB, sorry.

Yes, there are...

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

glen johnson

[Kegsy]

Has the boxer been mentioned yet??

[Decebal]

Hoya's chin is A - he's out
Tito's power is A - he's out


no, no...AT LEAST the stated power, etc. so...at least B power.

[Decebal]

Has the boxer been mentioned yet??

Do you feel a better case cannot be made for anyone who hasn't been mentioned?

[doug.ie]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BewareofDawg
You mean currently? There are NOT 50 better fighters currently active then MAB, sorry.

Yes, there are...




you've been to my local bar...havent you? ;-)

[pioterbezkitu]

Povietkin? Ibragimov?

[peter5]

Clottey?

If hes top 50, if he fits any of the criteria!!!!.......Im getting pissed off! I seem to think I know who it is, then realise that he doesnt fit all the points!

[BewareofDawg]

Has the boxer been mentioned yet??
Yes! Its Ricky Hatton. If not, Decebals stupid game is flawed :deal

[PrideOfWales]

I predict that we're all going to be very disappointed at the end of this thread.

[Decebal]

Yes! Its Ricky Hatton. If not, Decebals stupid game is flawed :deal

Ricky hatton doesn;t have B+ defence, does he?

[doug.ie]

Christian Mijares ??

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

can we just get the answer

[BewareofDawg]

Yes, there are...
Name 'em. MAB lost to Pac and JMM and all of a sudden he drops from the top 50????? :rofl So if he can't beat two top 5 p4p fighters, then he isn't even top 50? :patsch

[BewareofDawg]

can we just get the answer
He doesn't have an answer :lol: this is what he does, he questions but he doesn't have any real answers himself. Seriously, I'm not joking.

[doug.ie]

Ivan Calderon...i'm scraping the barrel here...

[peter5]

He doesn't have an answer :lol: this is what he does, he questions but he doesn't have any real answers himself. Seriously, I'm not joking.

If he was a women he would be a fucking "prick tease" :deal

Come on DECEBAL.....

[BewareofDawg]

If he was a women he would be a fucking "prick tease" :deal

Come on DECEBAL.....
:blood

[jaycuban]

Evander Holyfield

[BewareofDawg]

Evander Holyfield
:lol: top 50 P4P!

[jaycuban]

My Answer would be Holyfield.

same thing i tought

[Decebal]

I predict that we're all going to be very disappointed at the end of this thread.

You are not going to be disappointed, though, I admit, this is a bit of a wild goose chase...

My favourite fighter, a priori, has at least the qualities I listed in the opening post...not sure who is the best match for such a fighter, though...so I was going to ask you who my favourite fighter really is!:D

I've put up a poll; please vote for the fighter you feel MOST resembles the fighter described in the opening post!:good

[peter5]

:blood

:lol:

[BIGTIMETIMMY]

carl froch

[jaycuban]

Zab Judah ?

[doug.ie]

solis??

[BewareofDawg]

!:good
Well why don't you play too Decebal. Who do you think it is?

[Decebal]

carl froch

not funny.

[doug.ie]

i hate to say this...but this COULD have been a good thread..

[Decebal]

Well why don't you play too Decebal. Who do you think it is?

I think it might be Cotto, but there's something about Cotto that I'm not sure about...:think

It doesn't have to be someone as good as Cotto, though...can be someone less good.

[Decebal]

i hate to say this...but this COULD have been a good thread..

:lol:

Sorry, mate...:good

[JAB5239]

i hate to say this...but this COULD have been a good thread..


It still will be. When Dec gives the answer, people will be sure to argue the validity of it and who they think it should have been.

[Kegsy]

Israel Vazquez

[Decebal]

Israel Vazquez

Yeah...but is he very good technically? Is he primarily a boxer with great defence?

[Kegsy]

Yeah...but is he very good technically? Is he primarily a boxer with great defence?
This is tougher than it appears.:lol:

[Decebal]

I want to be the fan of a fighter with decent enough physical qualities (power, chin) who is very good at boxing (tehnically, defence) and works hard at becoming a more accomplished boxer, someone who has great heart and doesn't mind a real guts and blood fight either and who gives his all in the ring...so who is that fighter? Who ticks most of the boxes best, on my wishlist?

[doug.ie]

I want to be the fan of a fighter with decent enough physical qualities (power, chin) who is very good at boxing (tehnically, defence) and works hard at becoming a more accomplished boxer, someone who has great heart and doesn't mind a real guts and blood fight either and who gives his all in the ring...so who is that fighter? Who ticks most of the boxes best, on my wishlist?

thats cotto then..

[Decebal]

thats cotto then..

Are you sure? :think

[BewareofDawg]

How did this dumb frigg'n thread make 3 pages :patsch

Decebal is the Golden Boy of thread making :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Decebal]

How did this dumb frigg'n thread make 3 pages :patsch

Decebal is the Golden Boy of thread making :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Yeah, but I'm not the one wearing the gay avatar...:smooch

[BewareofDawg]

Yeah, but I'm not the one wearing the gay avatar...:smooch
No you have huggy bear in yours :yep

[Decebal]

Everyone, thanks for your suggestions...please vote in the poll. I shall be a big fan of the fighter who wins the poll and defend him to the death on ESB!:bart

:deal

[doug.ie]

Originally Posted by dougm1970
thats cotto then..

Are you sure? :think


well...yeah..

will you change your avatar to cotto ??

[Decebal]

No you have huggy bear in yours :yep

:lol:

(I lost an avatar bet too!)

[Decebal]

Originally Posted by dougm1970
thats cotto then..




well...yeah..

will you change your avatar to cotto ??

I will, after my avatar bet runs out...about 3 weeks left...:good

[PrideOfWales]

Everyone, thanks for your suggestions...please vote in the poll. I shall be a big fan of the fighter who wins the poll and defend him to the death on ESB!:bart

:deal

This is not how you choose a fighter to root for.

When you see a fighter you want to support, you will just know.

[PrideOfWales]

It's like me saying I want a great looking woman who is 5'10 with naturally blonde, long hair with decent sized norks. She must be in the top 5% earners in the country, a good cook and a nympho. Who is this woman? If you find her, I will fall in love with her.

[Decebal]

This is not how you choose a fighter to root for.

When you see a fighter you want to support, you will just know.

This is how I pick them...by ticking boxes...:D

(fuck McGrain!)

[Decebal]

It's like me saying I want a great looking woman who is 5'10 with naturally blonde, long hair with decent sized norks. She must be in the top 5% earners in the country, a good cook and a nympho. Who is this woman? If you find her, I will fall in love with her.

I bet you would; if you wouldn't, you either didn't know what you really wanted, in which case - nevermind; you will when you grow up, or...you are gay!:p

[PrideOfWales]

I bet you would; if you wouldn't, you either didn't know what you really wanted, in which case - nevermind; you will when you grow up, or...you are gay!:p

You are going increasingly insane.

[Decebal]

You are going increasingly insane.

...says the guy who was robbed by his favourite fighter and still flew half way across the world to see him and Hopkins hugging and dry-humping each other...

[Montero]

Who is he?

Are you going to say Glen Johnson? I don't think he has above average power though...

[Decebal]

Are you going to say Glen Johnson? I don't think he has above average power though...

Above average = B level, right?

[nervousxtian]

Wow, Decebal, this is a new all time low for you.

You've surpassed Amsterdam on stupid ass threads that are vague and go nowhere.

[doug.ie]

how long you leaving this thread open for then before theres an answer?

[Decebal]

how long you leaving this thread open for then before theres an answer?

The answer will be determined by the voters in the poll!:good

[doug.ie]

The answer will be determined by the voters in the poll!:good

how?...how will you know when everyones done?

[Decebal]

how?...how will you know when everyones done?

I'll give everyone 3 weeks to vote and then pick the fighter who got most votes!:good

[PrideOfWales]

how?...how will you know when everyones done?

Don't try to find any sense in here mate.

[Decebal]

Don't try to find any sense in here mate.

McGrain, is that you!:blood



...Decebal hater...:(

[doug.ie]

Don't try to find any sense in here mate.
newbridge...i was round by your way recently mate...blackwood...calzaghe's built a house there lately..hasnt he??...also staying at a mates house in trelewis...if i'm right, about 10 mins from you...
went to a great gig last year at TOM'S PUB, PONTYPRIDD..you know it?...danny vaughn from tyketto was playing...
was at another venue thats closing down this year...the point in cardiff..thats a shame as its a great venue...went to mike peters from the alarm and stuart gables new band there a few months back...

sorry to go off topic...but the topic seems to have gone off :-)

[scorpy]

He is currently an active Top 50 p4p fighter who has AT LEAST:
above average (B) chin
above average (B) power
very good (B+) defence
great (A) heartHe is a very good (B+) technical boxer who also likes to brawl and go toe-to-toe Mexican style from time to time; he certainly doesn't back out of such a fight.

His style is relentless.

Who is he?

Sounds like Mikkel Kessler except for the toe to toe part but then again, he traded pretty good shots with Calzaghe and Andrade in the past. :think

[Decebal]

Sounds like Mikkel Kessler except for the toe to toe part but then again, he traded pretty good shots with Calzaghe and Andrade in the past. :think

I love Mikkel, but he doesn't have great heart, at least not in the ring. He also doesn't really go toe to toe. His style isn't relentless either...

[PrideOfWales]

newbridge...i was round by your way recently mate...blackwood...calzaghe's built a house there lately..hasnt he??...also staying at a mates house in trelewis...if i'm right, about 10 mins from you...
went to a great gig last year at TOM'S PUB, PONTYPRIDD..you know it?...danny vaughn from tyketto was playing...
was at another venue thats closing down this year...the point in cardiff..thats a shame as its a great venue...went to mike peters from the alarm and stuart gables new band there a few months back...

sorry to go off topic...but the topic seems to have gone off :-)

Yep, Blackwood is only a couple of miles away. Where in Pontypridd is Toms? I used to go to the Maltsters by the bridge for live bands. Not sure if it's still there now but they used to have a kind of underground cave to play in.

[BIG WORM]

its glen johnson......

hes got good defence and is about p4p no50

[brooklyn1550]

He has a crappy chin and not much power.

It's not him.

JMM has a good chin and well above average power.

[brooklyn1550]

Is his defence really that good? Is his chin above average? Not bad, though...close!

Cotto's chin is above average and his defense is good, definitely improved.

[Gandul]

Decebal

I have read all this from page 1... You drive people insane with this stuff... I like your stile!

My pick is Cotto

[Montero]

Cotto or Johnson. I think Cotto is the truth - his chin is underated.

[Decebal]

JMM has a good chin and well above average power.

I disagree about JMM's chin and I don't see anything in terms of power...:think

[Decebal]

I am a big fan of both Johnson and Cotto...so...both will do!:D

[venomus_p4p]

Cotto is the best fit

[doug.ie]

Yep, Blackwood is only a couple of miles away. Where in Pontypridd is Toms? I used to go to the Maltsters by the bridge for live bands. Not sure if it's still there now but they used to have a kind of underground cave to play in.

sorry..treforest...

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you heard of the alarm ??..welsh band?..

so...you be from howard winstone / johnny owen country then??


.

[PrideOfWales]

sorry..treforest...

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you heard of the alarm ??..welsh band?..

so...you be from howard winstone / johnny owen country then??


.

Jesus Christ I know that place!! Never went in there.... looked like a bit of a hole to be honest! Didn't seem to have any windows from the outside. Am I right in thinking it was named after Tom Jones?

Yes, I've heard of the Alarm - bit before my time though. Blackwood is where the Manics are from.

Owen and Winstone are more Merthyr way.

[doug.ie]

yeah...suppose its a bit of a dive...but some of the best gigs i've been to were in dives..
you been at the point in cardiff ?..

you be a cardiff city fc man then??...you be making the trip to wembley..?



*we've fooked up a 'fooked up' thread even more* :-)

[PrideOfWales]

Unfortunately we're kkeeping it on page 1 which is the worst thing. But there's a load of crap on here too.

I moved up to London a couple of years ago and moved in with my girlfriend etc etc so I no longer live in Newbridge but go home every now and again.

Not really that much of a soccerball fan to be honest.

You'd probably like Le Pub in Newport!

[brooklyn1550]

I disagree about JMM's chin and I don't see anything in terms of power...:think

Marquez's right hand and left hook has put Barrera and Pacquiao on queer street. He's a relatively hard hitter (an even better puncher as his offensive arsenal is very diversified), and his KO percentage shows it. Not in the league of Pacquiao in terms of power, but surely above average.

[Decebal]

Marquez's right hand and left hook has put Barrera and Pacquiao on queer street. He's a relatively hard hitter (an even better puncher as his offensive arsenal is very diversified), and his KO percentage shows it. Not in the league of Pacquiao in terms of power, but surely above average.

I think it's his versatile offensive arsenal that makes him effective, rather than his power...a bit like a super-version of Dawson, in this respect.

[Pimp C]

Donaire

[Quik]

Too bad Morales retired...

[Sweet Pea]

It's not Mijares...he doesn't have power and his defence ain't that great.Uh, bullshit?

[Grant1]

Dec

You've obviously started this thread with a fighter in mind, hence the 'Guess the fighter' and NOT 'Suggest a fighter' - you gonna let us in on who you thought fitted the description ??

Cheers
Grant

[Decebal]

Dec

You've obviously started this thread with a fighter in mind, hence the 'Guess the fighter' and NOT 'Suggest a fighter' - you gonna let us in on who you thought fitted the description ??

Cheers
Grant

I was thinking of Cotto, my favourite fighter.:good

[Haye]

antonio margarito

Great defence?

[Grant1]

I was thinking of Cotto, my favourite fighter.:good


:good