(Picture) - Which fighters have this kind of jaw?

[paulfv]

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Some guys who come to mind for me are:

* Roy Jones, Jr.
* Lennox Lewis
* Amir Khan
* Zab Judah


Add your own.

[jyuza]

Wow what a shitty pic, I needed 5 sec to see what it was.

[sean]

roy jones moved up from light heavy to win the heavyweight title.

lennox lewis faced and beat a who`s who of heavyweight punchers.

amir khan yet to be proven.

judah been in with at least 10 world class fighters been stopped once.

the china chin/bum/etc etc is banded about like confetti, when in truth there is hardly a world class fighter in history with a china chin.

[joe33]

desperate dan?

[paulfv]

there is hardly a world class fighter in history with a china chin.
* Marvin Hagler
* Mike McCallum
* Evander Holyfield
* Rocky Marciano
* Ray Mercer
* Lamon Brewster
* Vitali Klitschko


And tons of others I'm forgetting

For whomever mentioned Lewis, he has two 1-punch KO losses, not a good indicator of a strong chin

[paulfv]

All I see is a spuare.........I don't recall anyones chin looking like a square.......

I labeled it

[paulfv]

Floyd Mayweather, Sr., on Roy Jones, Jr.:

"He is a glass-chinned bum"

[paulfv]

Jones Jr...

Judah...

Agreed.

I think Khan might head the list of top prospects with a glaringly glass jaw, at least at the moment.

[ChampionsForever]

It pisses me off when people rag on a fighters chin, if they cant take a punch it has nothing to do with them, its a god given gift if you can take a punch and its unfortunate if you cant, its like making fun of a fighter because hes short its just fucking dumb and I dont see why some of the more intelligent posters focus on this, man just let it be.

If a guy doesnt train, or is an arrogant fuck who boasts about being the best then gets KO'd then sure make fun all you like but its stupid to rag on a fighter just for this one thing, they cant do anything about it :patsch like Amir Khan, fucking hell hes 20!! and ive heard people call him a joke?!?!:dead

[paulfv]

It pisses me off when people rag on a fighters chin, if they cant take a punch it has nothing to do with them, its a god given gift if you can take a punch and its unfortunate if you cant

That's a good point; it's very hard to 'train' a chin.

But you can point out when a guy doesn't have a great chin, just like you can point out when a guy doesn't have a good jab. I don't think that's unfair.

Khan is definitely not a joke. He has a lot of talent. I mean, Lewis' chin didn't stop him from becomming what some consider to be a top-10 all-timer. He's just going to have to work with it, I think.

[cableguy]

* Marvin Hagler
* Mike McCallum
* Evander Holyfield
* Rocky Marciano
* Ray Mercer
* Lamon Brewster
* Vitali Klitschko


And tons of others I'm forgetting

For whomever mentioned Lewis, he has two 1-punch KO losses, not a good indicator of a strong chin

Which also says alot about how good Lewis was as a boxer, to be able to protect his 'glass jaw'

[paulfv]

Which also says alot about how good Lewis was as a boxer, to be able to protect his 'glass jaw'

Totally agree. Manny Steward maximized Lewis' talents and covered up his weaknesses. Unlike, say, a Buddy McGirt does with the guys he trains.

Which is why I have no idea why Jermaine Taylor won't listen to Manny Steward.

[dwilson]

Cotto
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[pioterbezkitu]

Cotto
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PBF
JESUS

You've forgotten to add

McCall and Tua :good

[barneyrub]

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Some guys who come to mind for me are:

* Roy Jones, Jr.
* Lennox Lewis
* Amir Khan
* Zab Judah


Add your own.Yeah right,

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If thats glass it must be of the toughened bullet proof variety!

[A-50]

Roy Jones Chin is pure Glass.
Zab also.
Hasim Rahman has a Glass Jaw also.

[pioterbezkitu]

Roy Jones Chin is pure Glass.
Zab also.
Hasim Rahman has a Glass Jaw also.

You're an pure IDIOT :hey

[sandwichsurgeon]

If there wasn't evidence to prove otherwise people would be claiming Gatti has always had a glass jaw because of the Gomez loss, this china chin stuff is getting out of hand.

[Stewbear]

If there wasn't evidence to prove otherwise people would be claiming Gatti has always had a glass jaw because of the Gomez loss, this china chin stuff is getting out of hand.

I agree it seems anyone who has ever blinked at a punch has a 'grade a china chin' whatever that is meant to mean:patsch

[sues2nd]

roy jones moved up from light heavy to win the heavyweight title.

lennox lewis faced and beat a who`s who of heavyweight punchers.

amir khan yet to be proven.

judah been in with at least 10 world class fighters been stopped once.

the china chin/bum/etc etc is banded about like confetti, when in truth there is hardly a world class fighter in history with a china chin.

Judah got stopped twice.

Lewis doesnt have a china chin....he got caught twice by two hard hitters. Those punches wouldve dropped quite a few fighters out there that are considered iron chinned.

[Zakman]

in truth there is hardly a world class fighter in history with a china chin.

I don't know if people would call these fighters "world class," but Herbie Hide and Fraudley Harrison are CLEAR cases of guys who got rated who had Grade A china chins!!:yep

[venbox]

Terry Norris had one of the weakest chins I've seen in an otherwise world-class, hall of fame fighter.

[andyZOR]

I dont think Lewis had a glass chin at all... His chin was pretty solid.

[barneyrub]

I dont think Lewis had a glass chin at all... His chin was pretty solid.Id agree, check this out

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[fernando4cv3]

* Marvin Hagler
* Mike McCallum
* Evander Holyfield
* Rocky Marciano
* Ray Mercer
* Lamon Brewster
* Vitali Klitschko


And tons of others I'm forgetting

For whomever mentioned Lewis, he has two 1-punch KO losses, not a good indicator of a strong chin

hagler???? da guy who took tommys hearns' best shot and it didnt even phase him. bull shit

[SOUTHERMOST]

Few more with an iron jaw Salvador Sanches,Juan Laporte,Eusebio Pedroza,Lupe Pintor.

[IntentionalButt]

All I see is a spuare.........I don't recall anyones chin looking like a square.......

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[paulfv]

hagler???? da guy who took tommys hearns' best shot and it didnt even phase him. bull shit

No, that was a list of guys with great jaws.

[paulfv]

Id agree, check this out

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Lewis' chin was, unfortunately, not the sturdiest:

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It wasn't long after this fight that Manny Steward really taught Len the 'jab-and- grab' technique necessary to cover-up for his lack of a sturdy jaw. And it worked. So I'm sure Khan can do the same thing.

[PIRA]

Lewis' chin was, unfortunately, not the sturdiest:

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Man you are nothing but a one trick whore, every post somehow gets to LL:deal - 2 knockdowns in a twenty year career indicates nothing but a sturdy chin.

[paulfv]

2 knockdowns in a twenty year career indicates nothing but a sturdy chin.

It indicates a guy who was smart enough to change his style in order to protect a weakness.

Lennox wasn't dumb; he knew he needed to take measures to avoid taking shots he couldn't handle. Manny Steward gave him the tools to do it, and he did it. Kudos to him.

The problem for the glass-jawed Khan is he doesn't have the natural size advantages that Lenny had as a heavyweight. That is, he isn't 4-5" taller than most guys and doesn't outweigh them by 30 pounds or have a much greater reach, so it's going to be a lot tougher for him to use 'jab-and-grab' like LL did so well.

[PIRA]

It indicates a guy who was smart enough to change his style in order to protect a weakness.

Lennox wasn't dumb; he knew he needed to take measures to avoid taking shots he couldn't handle. Manny Steward gave him the tools to do it, and he did it. Kudos to him.

The problem for the glass-jawed Khan is he doesn't have the natural size advantages that Lenny had as a heavyweight. That is, he isn't 4-5" taller than most guys and doesn't outweigh them by 30 pounds or have a much greater reach, so it's going to be a lot tougher for him to use 'jab-and-grab' like LL did so well.

The glaring, to use your description, hole in your arguement is that if there was such a huge weakness then why did it not get exposed until long into LL's career. Unlike Khan who is facing featherdusters LL faced and beat all until these complacent efforts. That is what it is - complacency not chin. Train easy - fight hard.

[paulfv]

You gotta be kidding. When you're fighting the Tyrell Biggs of the world, your jaw isn't going to be tested. Len was smart enough to take guys who could hurt him (like Ruddock) out quickly, but since at least Bruno people knew he had no chin. And then McCall just proved it to the world. LL never had a chin, which led to moments like this:

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So after Lewis got 1-punch KO'd against McCall, he started to hold more, like Steward taught him to. You'll see a ton of that technique against Holyfield and Tua, especially. Also some against Briggs, who was another who wobbled Leggy Lenny.

I guess while Lewis was filiming Ocean's 11 he got too full of himself and forgot the piece of china at the bottom of his face. Rahman soon reminded him. After that fight, back to jab-and-grab and use his size and height against Tyson and others.

Hey, it worked. You have to know your weaknesses.

[PIRA]

You gotta be kidding. When you're fighting the Tyrell Biggs of the world, your jaw isn't going to be tested. Len was smart enough to take guys who could hurt him (like Ruddock) out quickly, but since at least Bruno people knew he had no chin. And then McCall just proved it to the world. LL never had a chin, which led to moments like this:

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So after Lewis got 1-punch KO'd against McCall, he started to hold more, like Steward taught him to. You'll see a ton of that technique against Holyfield and Tua, especially. Also some against Briggs, who was another who wobbled Leggy Lenny.

I guess while Lewis was filiming Ocean's 11 he got too full of himself and forgot the piece of china at the bottom of his face. Rahman soon reminded him. After that fight, back to jab-and-grab and use his size and height against Tyson and others.

Hey, it worked. You have to know your weaknesses.

"LL never had a chin" - classic comment, man goes twenty years and is able to never get hit and thus protect his chin against just about all comers. Fuck LL makes Willie Pep look inadequate. Your statements are becoming more and more extreme as you try to justify your hatin' - give up and crack open the next jar of hatorade and toast the death of any objectivity you had! :deal

[paulfv]

"LL never had a chin" - classic comment, man goes twenty years and is able to never get hit and thus protect his chin against just about all comers. Fuck LL makes Willie Pep look inadequate. Your statements are becoming more and more extreme as you try to justify your hatin' - give up and crack open the next jar of hatorade and toast the death of any objectivity you had! :deal

How about we toast to Lennox's chin?

Oh, right, we don't want to shatter our wine glasses! LOL!!!!!!

:rofl:rofl:rofl

[.trunzx]

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:rofl :rofl :rofl

And yes, he picked liddell to win.. :patsch


This thread is garbage, its not even worth arguing why the fighters he chose do not have glass chins.

[paulfv]

its not even worth arguing why the fighters he chose do not have glass chins.
You're right, trunz. How could I have thought any of those guys had glass jaws?


Let's take a look at those 4 guys, in what are apparently make-believe, doctored images.

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RJJ meditating before his fight with Glen Johnson. Yes, I know it looks like he just got KTFO and would be on the canvas for about 5 minutes, but it's just a pre-fight ritual of Roy's.

:rofl:lol::bbb

[paulfv]

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No 1-punch KO here. Keep 'em moving. :rofl

[paulfv]

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I know it looks like Zab is Chicken Dancing, but really it's all a myth, kind of like how we never landed on the moon!

:lol:

[paulfv]

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This is not really Amir Khan getting knocked down by a featherfisted guy (Limond), and no, really, he does not have a glass jaw. Honest.

:rofl :lol:

[H .]

paulfv are you retarded?

:lol:

[paulfv]

Based on the photographic evidence of my last 4 posts, I think it's fairly easy to come to the correct conclusion:

The 4 guys I mentioned at the start of the thread? When you think of their chins, just think of this:

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[PIRA]

Actually I was looking at that and thinking that is what happened to your brains.

Based on written evidence I think it's fairly easy to come to the correct conclusion: you are a troll.

Stop wasting everyone's time and get in the gym and learn about the sport firsthand - you might actually learn something and if not at least someone has managed to beat you up for wasting our time.

[paulfv]

Actually I was looking at that and thinking that is what happened to your brains.

Based on written evidence I think it's fairly easy to come to the correct conclusion: you are a troll.

Of course, PIRA. The last refuge of the defeated debater is to personally attack the person whom he lost to.

Don't worry, I'm used to it. :)

I know it must be tough looking at those pictures, seeing Lenny all KO'd in the 2nd round like a 6'5" child who stumbled during recess.

BWAHAHAHAHAH!!! Len "Chinless" Lewis, "All-Time Great"

[cardstars]

HAGLER??? WTF are you kidding me? That guy was tough as hell and I can't believe his name would even come up on this thread

[PIRA]

Of course, PIRA. The last refuge of the defeated debater is to personally attack the person whom he lost to.

Don't worry, I'm used to it. :)

I know it must be tough looking at those pictures, seeing Lenny all KO'd in the 2nd round like a 6'5" child who stumbled during recess.

BWAHAHAHAHAH!!! Len "Chinless" Lewis, "All-Time Great"

LOL - and this is where you are going all wrong. This is not a debating board it is a discussion board. But there is plenty little of discussion with yourself as your single minded aim, that taints all your posts, is to denigrate a particular fighter.

It is sad to see self professed fans carry on like fools as though their internet crusade means a damm to anyone - the fact that you are getting used to the insult's really means that you are oblivious to the interesting things happening in the boxing world. We just had a weekend of great fight yet your focused on a great fighter who is well retired with millions in the bank, beautiful wife, child and home and whom is given, not demands, respect worldwide from everyone in the industry. I am sure LL sits up at night and wonders about your indepth knowledge of his career.

Compare that to your internet achievements and smoke it!:yep

[paulfv]

HAGLER??? WTF are you kidding me? That guy was tough as hell and I can't believe his name would even come up on this thread
No, no. Hagler was on the list of guys with GREAT chins that I made because someone said something like there's no such thing as a great chin.

I think I may have solved the Lewis issue. I found this picture of him:

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My God, the man DOES have no chin!

:lol:

[Doppleganger]

You gotta be kidding. When you're fighting the Tyrell Biggs of the world, your jaw isn't going to be tested. Len was smart enough to take guys who could hurt him (like Ruddock) out quickly, but since at least Bruno people knew he had no chin. And then McCall just proved it to the world. LL never had a chin, which led to moments like this:
You have a very selective memory. What about Frank Bruno, Gary Mason, Mike Weaver, Tony Tucker, Phil Jackson and Razor Ruddock, all noted punchers and all of whom Lewis fought before he joined with Manny Steward. If his chin was glass why didn't any of them knock out the 'old' Lewis? You mentioned that Lewis was smart enough to take out Ruddock early but why didn't he take Bruno in the same way? Or don't you regard a man with 38 KOs in 40 wins as a genuine banger? Gary Mason had 34 KOs in 37 wins. Perhaps because he retired with eye retina issues soon after the Lewis fight you've never heard of him? Mike Weaver, an oft beaten veteran but whatever else the man could punch.

Enough of this Lewis 'glass jaw' shit already. Lewis had an average chin at world class level. You simply do not go 14 years with just 2 knockdowns if you have a glass jaw, unless your name is Willie Pep or Pernell Whitaker. Last time I checked Lewis was neither.

EDIT: I just saw your post above. You are clearly an idiot.

[Stewbear]

No, no. Hagler was on the list of guys with GREAT chins that I made because someone said something like there's no such thing as a great chin.

I think I may have solved the Lewis issue. I found this picture of him:

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My God, the man DOES have no chin!

:lol:
That is just not funny or clever at all...
Congratulations on making yourself look like a twat.

[barneyrub]

You gotta be kidding. When you're fighting the Tyrell Biggs of the world, your jaw isn't going to be tested. Len was smart enough to take guys who could hurt him (like Ruddock) out quickly, but since at least Bruno people knew he had no chin. And then McCall just proved it to the world. LL never had a chin, which led to moments like this:

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So after Lewis got 1-punch KO'd against McCall, he started to hold more, like Steward taught him to. You'll see a ton of that technique against Holyfield and Tua, especially. Also some against Briggs, who was another who wobbled Leggy Lenny.

I guess while Lewis was filiming Ocean's 11 he got too full of himself and forgot the piece of china at the bottom of his face. Rahman soon reminded him. After that fight, back to jab-and-grab and use his size and height against Tyson and others.

Hey, it worked. You have to know your weaknesses.in the tua fight there are actually about 3 clinches in the entire fight, try watching the fights first lol.

[BewareofDawg]

Based on the photographic evidence of my last 4 posts, I think it's fairly easy to come to the correct conclusion:

The 4 guys I mentioned at the start of the thread? When you think of their chins, just think of this:

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Lennox Lewis?? Ok, let's put it this way; if he had an "Egg Chin" then he also must have one of the Best Defenses and be the most evasive fighter in history. Here's a list of fighters he stepped in the ring with that COULDN'T crack that "egg chin". Also, please note that he fought both guys that KO'd him a second time and they didn't even make him flinch.

Ruddock
Bruno
Akinwande
Morrison
Mercer
Holyfield
Tyson
Klitschko
Briggs
Grant
Tua

Then Rahman and McCall.

Looking at this guys resume it's fucking laughable how anyone puts Holyfield or Tyson above him :deal Lewis = Top 5 All-time for sure......but he's in my Top 3 All-Time :good

[Bigcat]

I think there are a lot of cats who really can't define actually what a glass jaw is ..

Or is supposed to be..

[PIRA]

I think there are a lot of cats who really can't define actually what a glass jaw is ..

Or is supposed to be..


Exactly. And these fickle fans perpetuate the sheltering of fighters because it now seems the way of the world that you get more props (and cash from the perceived marketability) from beating up an endless amount of outclassed fighters whilst adding no losses in your career then working hard, rebounding from defeat to definitively avenge a loss and become undisputed once more.


A technique flaw and bad luck in one fight and complacency in another does not equal a glass jaw or even hint at it. If any of these armchair critics was hit by either of those shots or indeed any shot thrown by a pro fighter they would run for cover, never to be seen in the gym again. That is imagining they got off the couch in the first place.

[BewareofDawg]

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I know it looks like Zab is Chicken Dancing, but really it's all a myth, kind of like how we never landed on the moon!

:lol:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
There is nothing Not Funny about Tszyu KOing Zab :rofl I can laugh at this fight over and over again. Especially the pics :lol: :lol: :lol:

[paulfv]

Sorry, I had to switch image hosting services, so for anyone who is looking for Sir Egg Chin against Rahman I, here is the correct link:

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I apologize for the messed-up quotations of my original post with this clip (which I have also fixed).

[BewareofDawg]

Sorry, I had to switch image hosting services, so for anyone who is looking for Sir Egg Chin against Rahman I, here is the correct link:

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I apologize for the messed-up quotations of my original post with this clip (which I have also fixed).
Now show Rahman get posterized in the rematch :yep You know...laid out perfectly in line with the Crown :rofl

Out of those two you pick Lewis to have the glass chin :patsch The Rock got knocked out of the ring by Maskaev :rofl ......twice!!!!! :admin

[paulfv]

Out of those two you pick Lewis to have the glass chin :patsch The Rock got knocked out of the ring by Maskaev :rofl ......twice!!!!! :admin
For that clip, see the "Most destructive KO's of the 1990's-2000's" thread :D

[New Wind]

so...
let me get this straight..

If a guy is clipped on the chin by a hard punch he hasn't seen coming and goes down from it, he is glass chinned??

Get real, man.

[goldnarms]

You have a very selective memory. What about Frank Bruno, Gary Mason, Mike Weaver, Tony Tucker, Phil Jackson and Razor Ruddock, all noted punchers and all of whom Lewis fought before he joined with Manny Steward. If his chin was glass why didn't any of them knock out the 'old' Lewis? You mentioned that Lewis was smart enough to take out Ruddock early but why didn't he take Bruno in the same way? Or don't you regard a man with 38 KOs in 40 wins as a genuine banger? Gary Mason had 34 KOs in 37 wins. Perhaps because he retired with eye retina issues soon after the Lewis fight you've never heard of him? Mike Weaver, an oft beaten veteran but whatever else the man could punch.

Enough of this Lewis 'glass jaw' shit already. Lewis had an average chin at world class level. You simply do not go 14 years with just 2 knockdowns if you have a glass jaw, unless your name is Willie Pep or Pernell Whitaker. Last time I checked Lewis was neither.

EDIT: I just saw your post above. You are clearly an idiot.

Exactly...2 KO losses in a heavyweight championship career and he's glass chinned.

[paulfv]

so...
let me get this straight..

If a guy is clipped on the chin by a hard punch he hasn't seen coming and goes down from it, he is glass chinned??

Get real, man.
No, anybody can get knocked out. That's not it.

It's getting 1-punch KO'd that really separates Lewis from the pack. Sure, there are plenty of bums who get 1-punch KO'd all the time (Fraudley Harrison), but not many 'all-timers' who have twice been 1-punch KO'd in their prime. That's where the china chin comes in. And the same goes for RJJ (although some would argue he was no longer in his prime when he got twice 1-punch KO'd).

Lewis was a very good champion, once Manny Steward taught him how to hide his chin and clinch. Before that, he was a 1-punch KO loss waiting to happen. Fortunately for him, most of the guys he fought before getting with Steward couldn't take his punches, so they never got to land anything good of their own on Sir Glass Chin. When they did (Briggs, Bruno), they shook Lewis. It wasn't the hardest thing in the world to do.

Oh, and McCall's trainer when he KO'd Lewis?

Manny Steward.

[barneyrub]

No, anybody can get knocked out. That's not it.

It's getting 1-punch KO'd that really separates Lewis from the pack. Sure, there are plenty of bums who get 1-punch KO'd all the time (Fraudley Harrison), but not many 'all-timers' who have twice been 1-punch KO'd in their prime. That's where the china chin comes in. And the same goes for RJJ (although some would argue he was no longer in his prime when he got twice 1-punch KO'd).

Lewis was a very good champion, once Manny Steward taught him how to hide his chin and clinch. Before that, he was a 1-punch KO loss waiting to happen. Fortunately for him, most of the guys he fought before getting with Steward couldn't take his punches, so they never got to land anything good of their own on Sir Glass Chin. When they did (Briggs, Bruno), they shook Lewis. It wasn't the hardest thing in the world to do.

Oh, and McCall's trainer when he KO'd Lewis?

Manny Steward.
Plenty of guys landed plenty of big shots before and after steward, you need to watch some of his fights. Watch this video and weep my friend.

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[paulfv]

Plenty of guys landed plenty of big shots before and after steward, you need to watch some of his fights. Watch this video and weep my friend.

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Thanks! That one made the 'favorites' list.

I wonder why someone felt they needed to make a "Lennox Lewis had an iron chin" video. LOL!!! :bbb

[Stewbear]

Thanks! That one made the 'favorites' list.

I wonder why someone felt they needed to make a "Lennox Lewis had an iron chin" video. LOL!!! :bbb

because of haters like you, a bit foolish I agree, but still its great to watch the haters responses even though boxing fans are the worst for bias.