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Tom_Tocca
07-16-2007, 04:26 PM
Pavlik asked about his future plans:

I want to win the title and stick around. I want to fight Felix Sturm for the WBA and Arthur Abraham for the IBF and then I want to go up to 168 where Joe Calzaghe will hopefully still be around. I want to take all the belts. That’s one thing you want to conquer in this sport. You want to fight the best, even though anything can happen. You can get hit with a phantom punch, you can get robbed, you can get outboxed, and if that happens you can always say that you fought the best. That’s what I want to do. I’m looking to get those two middleweight fights in the next year and a half, no longer than that before I move up.
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source: fightnews

please, please, please let those 3 guys win their next bouts...Sturm stated 2 weeks before that he's thinking the same way (go to America and fight the winner of Pavlik - Taylor). Though AA is a question mark to come to the US and Sturm ran his mouth alot about his plans...but this would be to good to be true...

C Money
07-16-2007, 04:31 PM
Sounds like a good plan, but hope he's only focused on Taylor right now:good I'm rooting for Kelly, but beating Taylor seems much easier when you arent standing in the ring with him. Pavlik will need the best night of his life and be willing to walk through hell, if he's gonna take it.

Smazz20
07-16-2007, 04:43 PM
All well and good talking about it. He needs to do it. He beat a crude Miranda but he's in against Taylor next and that's a big step up in class. If he does the business there, then i'll be firmly on the bandwagon.

Calzaghe will be long gone by the time he moves up. Kessler, Bute, Froch and even Mundine would be more realistic fights for him.

Jose FM
07-16-2007, 04:51 PM
Good, just what i like to hear from a fighter that has been getting my respect.

achillesthegreat
07-16-2007, 07:35 PM
I would love for Pavlik to beat Taylor then Sturm then Abrahms. Then he can step up to 168 to get some titles. By that point I'm sure Calzaghe won't be around.

Axe
07-16-2007, 07:35 PM
Pavlik asked about his future plans:

I want to win the title and stick around. I want to fight Felix Sturm for the WBA and Arthur Abraham for the IBF and then I want to go up to 168 where Joe Calzaghe will hopefully still be around. I want to take all the belts. That’s one thing you want to conquer in this sport. You want to fight the best, even though anything can happen. You can get hit with a phantom punch, you can get robbed, you can get outboxed, and if that happens you can always say that you fought the best. That’s what I want to do. I’m looking to get those two middleweight fights in the next year and a half, no longer than that before I move up.
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source: fightnews

please, please, please let those 3 guys win their next bouts...Sturm stated 2 weeks before that he's thinking the same way (go to America and fight the winner of Pavlik - Taylor). Though AA is a question mark to come to the US and Sturm ran his mouth alot about his plans...but this would be to good to be true...

Sturm and Abraham are completely irrelevant, as Taylor was the linear, undisputed champion and actually held all 4 belts at the same time. Someone who beats Taylor = undisputed #1 at MW.

Axe
07-16-2007, 07:56 PM
You're right, their belts are irrelevant. Taylor is the one true champ at middleweight and once Pavlik beats him, he'll be the new king.

Still Abraham and Sturm are his most worthy contenders and Kelly should try and clean out the division before he moves up to 168.

It would be good to see the fights simply because they may be somewhat competetive, agreed...but why the thread author started mentioning Abraham's and Sturm's belts, I have no idea. :good

psychopath
07-16-2007, 08:00 PM
Good plan . . . I hope it materializes.

I want to see him fight Abraham win or lose against Taylor.

Kostya Zoo
07-16-2007, 08:02 PM
It would be good to see the fights simply because they may be somewhat competetive, agreed...but why the thread author started mentioning Abraham's and Sturm's belts, I have no idea. :good

that's the way it goes man, it's boxing. evidentley fights with some meaningless paper title attached actually sell more than fights without a title. Pretty riduculous, right?

C Money
07-16-2007, 08:02 PM
The other belts are meaningless because Hopkins had unified and became undisputed and lineal. Re-unifying would just be a way of saying he beat the top contenders as well.

Yet, this kind of talk should be AFTER the Taylor fight. Dont look any further than tomorrow as he isnt CHAMP yet:good

Slaughter27
07-16-2007, 08:04 PM
Since Pavlik won´t beat Taylor that is irrelevant.


I wouldn't be so sure of that.

psychopath
07-16-2007, 08:13 PM
Since Pavlik won´t beat Taylor that is irrelevant.

Stupid comment. The guy is talking of his plan and you're saying irrelevant?

Is it the end for Pavlik if he loses to Taylor? Can't he fight Abraham or other big names? :huh

psychopath
07-16-2007, 09:27 PM
Sure, he can, if he earns a shot after his defeat.

I really don´t think Kelly can beat Taylor. Taylor is the kind of fighter who just is always a bit better than his opponent, he will always fight down the level of his opponent that´s why he looks so bad against 154 pounders.

Win or lose against Taylor the guy will remain inside the top 5 position of the division and it won't be hard for him to get a shot at the titles.

As to Taylor/Pavlik I myself is rooting for Taylor but we can't count Pavlik out just like that. The guy has shown heart and determination.

deram
07-16-2007, 11:04 PM
Pavlik will beat Taylor on a pretty clear UD. Pavlik is skilled, big, strong and young... a combination that Taylor has never met before.

maciek4
07-17-2007, 03:21 AM
Wouldnt you rather see Taylor fight the winner of Forrest/Baldomir next?

jazzboy
07-17-2007, 04:22 AM
I dont understand why taylor gets no love the man is undefeated and will remain that way after he fights pavlik

maciek4
07-17-2007, 04:51 AM
I dont understand why taylor gets no love the man is undefeated and will remain that way after he fights pavlik

He became a superstar and is very demanding now. He fougt B-Hop to get to the top and then started fighting a string of former light middleweights , very good light middleweights but nevertheless. Sturm, Abraham, Miranda, Pavlik, Karmazin are the guys he needs to fight to establish himself as the best middleweight. No more Ike Quartey, Ouma, Spinks, time to fight real middleweights.