Has Kessler ever been hurt or put down?

[Terrible Terry]

I own about 20 Kessler fights and the guy just looks like a killing machine. Has he ever been really hurt in a fight?

[Vantage_West]

yea but isnt a knock out we are waiting for it's a dominating ud..big difference

[hopkinsfan07]

yea but isnt a knock out we are waiting for it's a dominating ud..big difference

agreed :good

[deram]

The answer is:......... No. Never down nor shaken in the slightest.

[magnificentdave]

he got knocked out by calzaghe

[BigReg]

Of course he's never been down. He's an excellent boxer with nice speed and pretty good defense. By the end of the night on Nov. 3 Calzaghe is gonna be on his back, looking at the lights, wishing he was fighting another guy from the contender.

[BigReg]

Easy to look good when your best competition is a timid Mundine.

What about Andrade? He was far from timid, and the Viking Warrior shut his ass out. I'm convinced Andrade is some type of mutant, nobody can take that much punishment without going down.

[deram]

Andrade was a punching bag, about as good as Mayweather's win over Gatti, cept Kessler couldn't even finish.

A better comparison is probably Bika. Although Bika was never in the Ring top 5 like Andrade.

[BigReg]

Andrade was a punching bag, about as good as Mayweather's win over Gatti, cept Kessler couldn't even finish.

I never said anything about Andrade's defense. I just said he was aggressive. Andrade also has a world class chin. He was getting rocked. Not only did he not go down, he didn't have a scratch on his face.

[PATSYS]

I own about 20 Kessler fights and the guy just looks like a killing machine. Has he ever been really hurt in a fight? No, but he will taste one against Calzaghe.

[Chileno606]

What about Andrade? He was far from timid, and the Viking Warrior shut his ass out. I'm convinced Andrade is some type of mutant, nobody can take that much punishment without going down.

Is that you in your avatar? If so, your one Paul Williams-looking muthafaka :rofl

[hopkinsfan07]

Andradewas very bad he looked very off balence every punch

[WhataRock]

The biggest punch Ive seen him take was a right hand against Mundine early in their fight.
He didnt seem hurt though, I dont think the punch landed completely clean but it was a hard punch and the concussive power moved him back a fair bit.

[PeterNielsen70]

Kessler's "power" isn't as great as people think it is, he's a consistently "strong" puncher but he's not going to knock out tough chins, he never has and he probably never will

Agree – but Andrade’s chin was still something quite exceptional. Andrade leaving the fight not even with a slightly scratch. Eric Lucas’ face looked like a tomato after his Kessler encounter. But let’s see JC’s ability regarding taking on the accumulation effect on Nov. 3th.

[New Wind]

Well... Had the fight been JC-Andrade, we would have seen the same picture as Kessler-Andrade, imo.

Only difference is the ref would've stopped it mid-late rounds and you all would have said "Oh, JC hits harder than Kessler"

I can't imagine anyone putting Andrade down cold. Kessler is not a light puncher and he hit andrade with shots that would have put JC to sleep, if his chin hasn't improved since the Mitchell fight.

The question is, then.. will Kessler be able to land like that on JC? No, of course he won't. Not even a nuthugger like myself claims that.
But to call Kessler light fisted is a tad too much.

[New Wind]

I own about 20 Kessler fights and the guy just looks like a killing machine. Has he ever been really hurt in a fight?


And I heard a rumour once that he was KD'ed in an amateur fight, but that he claims that it was a slip, or something like that..

I believe Danish Tabloid BT brought the store, leading into the Beyer fight... or was it the Andrade fight.. I forget.. no matter.. They had an interview with the guy who fought him in the final of the Sealandic Championship back in the mid nineties..
Kessler won, but was, as I recall, counted over..

In the same article, I think, Kessler replied that it was a slip and that he was tired of hearing that story again and again...
hmmm... if it was a slip, why does it bother him that much?

...

At any rate..
If you have 20 fights of Kessler's, I suggest you post them on youtube, asap, for the world to see.
I have seen most of Kessler's fights live, but would love for the world to know Kessler better.

So, please terry.. go ahead:-)

[PeterNielsen70]

But to call Kessler light fisted is a tad too much.

Of course not. But the label a consistently strong puncher is ok. Don't put too much emphasise on the big one-punch KO ability. Timing and pin point accuracy together with good power is vast more important and lethal than great power together with a slightly bad timing - when it comes to winning boxing fights.:yep

[New Wind]

I certainly agree Peter.

My beef is not with the consistency-label.

Beyer wasn't worn down, was he?
i.e. there must be some pop in those hands..

methinks that if JC and his fans are under the impression that Kessler holds no punch, they will be sorely surprised:-)

[Jens S]

Miguel Julio had him stunned for a split second. Kessler walked right into a punch and stopped very, very shortly. He was probably more surprised than hurt.

Jens

[Jens S]

New Wind is right about the article. The link is here: [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Jens

[pinpointzero]

Of course he's never been down. He's an excellent boxer with nice speed and pretty good defense. By the end of the night on Nov. 3 Calzaghe is gonna be on his back, looking at the lights, wishing he was fighting another guy from the contender.

Salt, pepper for your words??? It'll help with the taste.

[New Wind]

great link, Jens..

If anyone is interested, I'll translate the article..
Just say the word..

Blocks... Are you reading what you write? you just admitted that JC doesn't hit squarely..

[dwilson]

Kess has decent power but nothing special. He is a great boxer who has never looked near being hurt, knocked down or losing a decision. But it has to be said that he could not even stop mundine, which is bad.

Like all fighters he has plus points and bad points in his game.

JC V Kess will be great, i can not split em yet.

[New Wind]

Salt, pepper for your words??? It'll help with the taste.

hehe, I like my humble pie with a tad of koriander, if you please:-)

Not that I'm going to need it, tho:-)

[PeterNielsen70]

There is still an unknown aspect of the JC-Kessler fight. JC has by several occasions shown what a great fighter he is, coming up from being tossed over and the like. Kessler’s greatest tests were against Mundine, Beyer and Andrade. But in these fights, however, he wasn’t tested to his outmost limits. I still think Kessler has an extra half gear or a full one, that hasn’t been tested or shown yet.

[New Wind]

Kess has decent power but nothing special. He is a great boxer who has never looked near being hurt, knocked down or losing a decision. But it has to be said that he could not even stop mundine, which is bad.

Like all fighters he has plus points and bad points in his game.

JC V Kess will be great, i can not split em yet.

Well, the mundine fight has been discussed over and over again..
Kessler wasn't at 100% for that fight, due to his injured back, which also postponed the fight 6 weeks, as you no doubt recal.
As a result, Kessler was unable to do any roadwork and only had a fraction of the sparring rounds that he normally has for fights.

Not taking anything away from Mundine, whom I think carried himself well in the fight, but Kessler has said that he was short of breath from round 5 and on.. That might have something to do with it..

And the "could not even stop Mundine, sounds to me like you have the Ring#3 written off as a walkover for any decent fighter..
As that not a little bit harsh?

"Yeah but feather fisted Ottke put him to sleep" - I hear you cry..
He did, with a temple shot in Mundine's 11th fight as a pro, in the 10th round of a fight, which till that point had been dominated by Mundine..
Not bad to take the reighning champ Ottke with more than 20 times as many fights (am/pro) to round ten, let alone dominate him..

Mundine is not as bad as his loss to Ottke would indicate, and I believe his ranking as quite deserved.

Kessler beating Mundine in Australia, to me more than equals anything JC has done since Eubank.

[sean]

Well... Had the fight been JC-Andrade, we would have seen the same picture as Kessler-Andrade, imo.

Only difference is the ref would've stopped it mid-late rounds and you all would have said "Oh, JC hits harder than Kessler"

I can't imagine anyone putting Andrade down cold. Kessler is not a light puncher and he hit andrade with shots that would have put JC to sleep, if his chin hasn't improved since the Mitchell fight.

The question is, then.. will Kessler be able to land like that on JC? No, of course he won't. Not even a nuthugger like myself claims that.
But to call Kessler light fisted is a tad too much.

mitchell has more single punch power than kessler, but the right hand that mitchell caught calzaghe with, was atypical calzaghe mistake which he does again and again in fights and there is no doubt IMO that kessler will land similar right hands when the 2 meet, just IMO kessler does not as hard as the knockdown that calzaghe suffered, but we shall see.

[New Wind]

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If anyone is interested in the highlights of Ottke - Mundine.

[pinpointzero]

I own about 20 Kessler fights and the guy just looks like a killing machine. Has he ever been really hurt in a fight?


Has he ever really fought anyone of note?! :)

[PeterNielsen70]

Has he ever really fought anyone of note?! :)

Exactly, they're simply not around. I'm still waiting for some UFO's to land bringning fighters with some lethal skills.:tong

Waiting for the JC-Kessler fight though. Hope JC can put up better competitions than the other 35-year old we have just watched. (I'm thinking about Gatti, of course).;)

[China_hand_Joe]

Joe should just retire - no fighter and I mean no fighter in history 160-175 could beat Kessler at this stage of their career -fullstop-

[PeterNielsen70]

calzaghe fights better in the face of adversity, you knock him down then he will get back up and knock you out, or shut you out, thats jus the way it is, his heart is his biggest weopan, lets see what kessler does when he's in deep water

You mean – lets see what Kessler will do, when he KO’s JC. And JC comes back up on his feet very angry and wild swinging? Kessler is a boxer not a swinger, so if Kessler manage to floor JC, we will not witness a comeback from JC – I’ll guarantee. :hey

[dwilson]

Well, the mundine fight has been discussed over and over again..
Kessler wasn't at 100% for that fight, due to his injured back, which also postponed the fight 6 weeks, as you no doubt recal.
As a result, Kessler was unable to do any roadwork and only had a fraction of the sparring rounds that he normally has for fights.

Not taking anything away from Mundine, whom I think carried himself well in the fight, but Kessler has said that he was short of breath from round 5 and on.. That might have something to do with it..

And the "could not even stop Mundine, sounds to me like you have the Ring#3 written off as a walkover for any decent fighter..
As that not a little bit harsh?

"Yeah but feather fisted Ottke put him to sleep" - I hear you cry..
He did, with a temple shot in Mundine's 11th fight as a pro, in the 10th round of a fight, which till that point had been dominated by Mundine..
Not bad to take the reighning champ Ottke with more than 20 times as many fights (am/pro) to round ten, let alone dominate him..

Mundine is not as bad as his loss to Ottke would indicate, and I believe his ranking as quite deserved.

Kessler beating Mundine in Australia, to me more than equals anything JC has done since Eubank.

Im not disrespecting Mundine or Kessler but a fighter does not improve his chin. Mundine has improved his boxing ability but he is not the second coming as many people on here believe. The fact is that Kess (appently crippled) beat him with ease. Now since then we are to beleive that was the old Mundine and not the new amazing mundine. It either means that Mundine was a soft opponent or that Kes did not hve the power to stop him.

Kess has beaten as good as opposition as JC recently, that is another agument entirely.

I stand by the fact that Kes has decent power but not amazing power that JC should b scared of.

[Smazz20]

how you guys say it, nut hugger?, cock smoker?, kesslers little bitch?, but scratcher?, ass licker?, groupie?, o yeh and I forgot HATER


Your only a noob but I assure you, he's arguably Calzaghe's biggest fan on here:good

[deram]

Has he ever really fought anyone of note?! :)

Well, the reason why this fight is so obviously between the two best is because he basically singlehandedly cleaned out the division according the Ring.

Mundine (no. 3)
Beyer (no. 4)
Siaca (no. 5)
Andrade (no. 5)

Meanwhile Clzaghe was fighting Ashira, Pudwill, Bika, Lacy and Manfredo.

[Smazz20]

Well, the mundine fight has been discussed over and over again..
Kessler wasn't at 100% for that fight, due to his injured back, which also postponed the fight 6 weeks, as you no doubt recal.
As a result, Kessler was unable to do any roadwork and only had a fraction of the sparring rounds that he normally has for fights.

Not taking anything away from Mundine, whom I think carried himself well in the fight, but Kessler has said that he was short of breath from round 5 and on.. That might have something to do with it..

And the "could not even stop Mundine, sounds to me like you have the Ring#3 written off as a walkover for any decent fighter..
As that not a little bit harsh?

"Yeah but feather fisted Ottke put him to sleep" - I hear you cry..
He did, with a temple shot in Mundine's 11th fight as a pro, in the 10th round of a fight, which till that point had been dominated by Mundine..
Not bad to take the reighning champ Ottke with more than 20 times as many fights (am/pro) to round ten, let alone dominate him..

Mundine is not as bad as his loss to Ottke would indicate, and I believe his ranking as quite deserved.

Kessler beating Mundine in Australia, to me more than equals anything JC has done since Eubank.

You make that sentence sound like Kessler beat Mundine when he was ranked 3rd. Where was Mundine actually ranked when he fought Kessler? I prepare to stand corrected of course, but i'm pretty positive he was at most, 6th.

[deram]

mitchell has more single punch power than kessler, but the right hand that mitchell caught calzaghe with, was atypical calzaghe mistake which he does again and again in fights and there is no doubt IMO that kessler will land similar right hands when the 2 meet, just IMO kessler does not as hard as the knockdown that calzaghe suffered, but we shall see.

I agree.

[New Wind]

he might have more power, but he is half as fast and his own KD came as a result of his eagerness to end it quick against what he percieved was a hurt JC.

Kessler will never make that kind of rookie mistake.

Iceman!

[New Wind]

Has he ever really fought anyone of note?! :)

He fought your dad for the hand of your mother and sadly your dad won by tko late rounds..

Sadly, coz look what happened. you, nube.

[China_hand_Joe]

1st prime or 2nd prime Calzaghe can beat anyone in history at 168, not now though

[New Wind]

uh... what?

China??

you having 2nd thoughts on your God of equine resemblance?

[Smazz20]

not really the biggest fan, I think its a 50-50 fight, but I guarantee you that calzaghe aint getting knocked out, thats for sure, and if you can't respect his talent, then you got no respect for anythin, he may not have had the opposition you like, but this is the fight everybody wanted and he stepped up

I'm a Calzaghe fan also. I'm thrilled that he's fighting Kessler. It's the biggest fight in boxing now. It unifies the division witht the absolute two best going head to head. None of the bullshit that's going on at 140/147 and heavyweight.

I've pegged Calzaghe for a comfortable ud. But maybe it'll still be a good enough fight to warrant a rematch??

[China_hand_Joe]

uh... what?

China??

you having 2nd thoughts on your God of equine resemblance?I'm not some kind of delusional fan, I'm not even a Calzaghe fan, I just respect his talent, not even the best boxer of the last decade is immune to time -fullstop-

[Mon43]

he might have more power, but he is half as fast and his own KD came as a result of his eagerness to end it quick against what he percieved was a hurt JC.

Kessler will never make that kind of rookie mistake.

Iceman!
JC was hurt in that fight, if you watch the exchange that ended with Mitchell going down he hurts JC badly to the body, and he looked very close to going down again, just caught him with a cracking left hook.

Slightly early stoppage in that fight, not a bad decision really, but it was shaping up into a real stormer, Calzaghe was very impulsive and taking a lot of risks, made for a real exciting brawl. Could have done with a few more rounds.

[yesihavearm]

No he hasnt. But then again, his best opponent by about a million miles has been an average Anthony Mundine. Says it all really.

[PeterNielsen70]

I think its going to be very far from a comfortable ud for either of them, this fight has one of the following endings:

1. calzaghe's relentles pressure eventually gets to kessler in the later rounds, he stops fightin back, and the ref stops the fight, same way manfredo fight was stopped
2. kessler catches calzaghe good early and for once calzaghe realises he's in trouble so he becomes defensive and looses on points (if he makes it a war then I could see him being ko'ed, but I think he's smarter then that)
3.a split decision win for either of them, probably favouring calzaghe seein as its in wales

I cant wait for real

I'll go with #2 then, with some extra chilipeper.:deal

[deram]

he might have more power, but he is half as fast and his own KD came as a result of his eagerness to end it quick against what he percieved was a hurt JC.

Kessler will never make that kind of rookie mistake.

Iceman!

Kessler's average punch over an entire fight is harder imo. but Mitchell's hardest punch is probably harder. However, Kessler punches consistently hard so pretty much every punch can have a nasty effect if the opponent is not careful or has a really good chin.

[VIP]

No he hasnt. But then again, his best opponent by about a million miles has been an average Anthony Mundine. Says it all really.

Anthony Mundine is a vastly underrated boxer.

[deram]

Anthony Mundine is a vastly underrated boxer.

Not by real boxing fans. It is no coincidence that he is ranked no. 3 by the Ring behind two exceptional champions.

[dragosuhail]

i think this fight comes down to stamina since both have great strengths and skills.

the worry for calzaghe is that he will be 36 at fight time while kessler is in his prime in his late 20's.

kessler WILL NOT get trapped againsst the ropes where joe can do his best work. he will move all night making those 36 year old legs work. i know calzaghe fought the better opposition career wise but that doesn't mean one iota, if you grow old. sure you learn a few tricks but this sport is so physically demanding that cannot be dismissed.

so looking at it this way i figured kessler has the better chance of a win. saiko bika and joe fought a sloppy exhusting fight and then against manfredo he apparently broke his hand AGAIN in the second or third round? whereas you look at kessler and he made andrade who is kinda like a saiko bika in a way look like a fool in there and kessler only got stronger as the fight went one whereas joe got weaker.

only sad part for me is that one will be a loser as i am a fan of both. for the sport tho i do hope kessler wins since joe calzaghe wont be around much more after this fight if he doesn't retire straightaway win or lose.

[China_hand_Joe]

It is no coincidence that he is ranked no. 3 by the Ring behind two exceptional champions.Do you think it is a conspiracy then -questionmark-

[New Wind]

would you care to elaborate on that one, Legend?

And before you start, let's agree that Bhop and Jones might as well have gone to see Joe, as Vice versa, as this fight with Kessler proves that money is makeable outside of the US (amazingly enough, huh?)

Yes, there is such a a thing as a world outside the US.

[yesihavearm]

No, Mundine is not 'vastly under-rated' at all. He's lost everytime he's stepped into a higher level of competition.

And please dont call Kessler an exceptional champion. Once novembers over and done with people will be saying Oh yes Calzaghe beat another over-hyped euro. Why wont he stop ducking Bute or Froch or some nonsense like that.

[Harry]

No, Mundine is not 'vastly under-rated' at all. He's lost everytime he's stepped into a higher level of competition.

And please dont call Kessler an exceptional champion. Once novembers over and done with people will be saying Oh yes Calzaghe beat another over-hyped euro. Why wont he stop ducking Bute or Froch or some nonsense like that.

yes kessler is a exceptional champion lost only 4 rounds max in hes career and like all other of hes fights it will be onesided against calzaghe. take blocky with you and go get some glasses newb:bbb

[PeterNielsen70]

God I love those online whatever language to english translators.
Here is the above link after online translation:

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Methinks its a BIT off lol.

OK - here is a quick transl. I hope it's a little better.

B.T. (red. Danish newspaper) has met the only man, who successfully has been able to knock the Danish world champion to the floor.

Either the yellow Budstikken-car or Rasmus Thomsen’s tonsured crown creates the smallest stir, when he (red. Thomsen) attends the interview at B.T. downtown Copenhagen.

None of the passing pedestrians knows that he holds a secret (red. hhhuuu), which at the utmost consequence could have changed the history of boxing.

At the Zealand championships in 1998 he delivered that only single punch, which has floored Kessler to this given day.

‘It happened in the 1st round. I caught him with a left throw, and he went down. He didn’t needed help in getting back up on his feet, though, but he was knocked over and went full stretched on the floor’, continues Rasmus Thomsen, clearing up details on the exiting championship fight.

Few month later Mikkel Kessler turned pro, where he continued his undefeated march, now holding the two big world championships belts. Belts he on Saturday will be defending against the challenger Librado Andrade.

For 11 years the Danish darling of boxing hasn’t lost a single fight, but a lot could have been different, if Rasmus Thomsen at that time in 1998 had been just as hungry a fighter as his opponent.

‘I never really had the full commitment regarding my boxing, but I only went in for it as a hobby at that time. I had no ambitions related to turning pro or becoming a world champion’, explains Rasmus Thomsen.