The Thread To End All Tyranny

[Toopretty]

OK , to those who say floyd is a hype job and not the best fighter p4p b/c he has not fought or beaten the best. Name one fighter out there now that has fought and BEAT more top fighters in 10 years of boxing. Ok, I will wait:cool:..........Anybody from 135-154.

[Caper]

OK , to those who say floyd is a hype job and not the best fighter p4p b/c he has not fought or beaten the best. Name one fighter out there now that has fought and BEAT more top fighters in 10 years of boxing. Ok, I will wait:cool:..........Anybody from 135-154.

PBF's the man but he needs to take on at least three of the top 5 or 6 Welter Weights before leaving the game...he owes himself and his fans that much.

Still PBF's the most skilled dude in the game no doubt

I still got beef with your ass though, trying to shit on me in another thread because I said Cintron would KO Margo in a rematch. Bitch :smoke

[DaHead242]

I thought it said; "The thread to end all Trannys" and Ray Leonard fom 1979-1989 beat more greats....perhaps you mean a 10 year career, not ten year period.

[Toopretty]

PBF's the man but he needs to take on at least three of the top 5 or 6 Welter Weights before leaving the game...he owes himself and his fans that much.

Still PBF's the most skilled dude in the game no doubt

I still got beef with your ass though, trying to shit on me in another thread because I said Cintron would KO Margo in a rematch. Bitch :smoke

Hold up.that wasnt me..lol I agree..shit Margo is a bum Cintron got surgical with that right hand. He turned into a monster..lol

[Toopretty]

I am talking about current fighters fighting now.

[thesandman]

I am talking about current fighters fighting now.

Well to be honest, the guys he's beaten from 140 up aren't all that much to shout about.

ODLH obviously the biggest name, but rarely fights, PBF really did not a lot, and won a SD.

I really can't be fucked looking up people and comparing records, but the biggest names he's beaten at each weight are what???

140 - Gatti?? (looks good now after last weekend right???)
147 - Baldo? Judah after losing to Baldo?? You tell me.
154 - 1 fight. SD over an inactive ODLH.

Stuff of legends? Or stuff of cherry picking division hopper. You tell me.

[El Bombasto]

Well to be honest, the guys he's beaten from 140 up aren't all that much to shout about.

ODLH obviously the biggest name, but rarely fights, PBF really did not a lot, and won a SD.

I really can't be fucked looking up people and comparing records, but the biggest names he's beaten at each weight are what???

140 - Gatti?? (looks good now after last weekend right???)
147 - Baldo? Judah after losing to Baldo?? You tell me.
154 - 1 fight. SD over an inactive ODLH.

Stuff of legends? Or stuff of cherry picking division hopper. You tell me.

:yep

[Caper]

I am talking about current fighters fighting now.

:oops:

[Caper]

Hold up.that wasnt me..lol I agree..shit Margo is a bum Cintron got surgical with that right hand. He turned into a monster..lol

Its that Kronk homey!

:yep

[Toopretty]

Seems like cunts like yourselves forgot a whole featherweight lightweight career before that. We are talking 10 years. Castillo twice..Corrales. Hernandez Chavez was solid. Corley was a solid 140pd guy and even champ once. Seems like you cunts forgot a whole half a decade. lol

[Toopretty]

sandman you just got turned into mud with your dumb ass. That same inactive ODH knocked out hard head mayorga who would beat the shit out of margarito probably

[dyolf82]

I agree floyd is the man but there are others that have a nice resume like winky and b-hop. winky beat mosley twice, trinidad and ike quartey who has been robbed by many( de la hoya) B-hop beat de la hoya, trinidads 1st loss, antonio tarver, glen johnson ( didn't know that did you) and william joppy( he was a good prospect) I think their resume is just as impressive. The only thing that seperates them from pbf is he hasn't lost, that's why he is the p4p champ. Oh yeah mosley has a good resume to.

[Illmatic]

titles in three divisions and an undisputed welterweight championship is no joke at 140-154. Maybe if a certain Brit wouldve signed on the dotted line he wouldve had two undisputed championships, and 154 doesnt have a champion so he just beat the only ATG at that weight....i guess thats no big deal, I mean, everyone does that, right?

[Toopretty]

I agree floyd is the man but there are others that have a nice resume like winky and b-hop. winky beat mosley twice, trinidad and ike quartey who has been robbed by many( de la hoya) B-hop beat de la hoya, trinidads 1st loss, antonio tarver, glen johnson ( didn't know that did you) and william joppy( he was a good prospect) I think their resume is just as impressive. The only thing that seperates them from pbf is he hasn't lost, that's why he is the p4p champ. Oh yeah mosley has a good resume to.


I know Winky has that title hands down. But I said 135-154, Winky beat Mosley twice and as his claim to fame, then he moved up

[thesandman]

sandman you just got turned into mud with your dumb ass. That same inactive ODH knocked out hard head mayorga who would beat the shit out of margarito probably

WTF are you on about?

ODLH beat "I show up as the fight seller\punching bag" Mayorga what, a year ago?

Trinidad did the same - and look what happened when he fought a good fighter in Winky.

Beating Mayorga means sweet fuck all these days. Why do you think he's signed to fight Vargas in a bizarre 162 fight?

ODLH is still a good fighter. Top 5 or 6 at 154 probably, but that's all.

How long ago was his last good win at 154??? - Mayorga is not a good win these days.

[Kostya Zoo]

OK , to those who say floyd is a hype job and not the best fighter p4p b/c he has not fought or beaten the best. Name one fighter out there now that has fought and BEAT more top fighters in 10 years of boxing. Ok, I will wait:cool:..........Anybody from 135-154.

Why's it got to be 135-154? Are top lb4lb fighters suddenly limited to these weight classes?

[Toopretty]

Mayorga is better then Margarito...Beat better fighters too..lol

[Sweet Pea Pacquiao]

PBF is #1, but Winky can make a big case with a convincing win over Hopkins. In my opinion, he would jump over Pacquiao. That is, unless Pacquiao were to beat Barrera and Marquez in consecutive fights.

However, a win over Hatton or Cotto would solidify PBF as #1.

[Toopretty]

No goober..the point I am trying to make is that you idiots said floyd duck and dodged his way up to 154 from wherever and he is overrated never fought anybody. What I am saying is that he fought more top fighters and WON then anybody in that mix from 135-154 that are currently fighting. Period. Case closed.go fish..tonk..checkmate...

[rekcutnevets]

Why anybody from 135-154? I thought you said pound for pound. That should include every division.

I have him pound for pound currently, but I don't think those than have Manny Pacquiao are crazy. Manny beat Barrera and Morales. He had a draw with Marquez, and many thought the knock downs in the first should have won that fight for him.

[thesandman]

Why's it got to be 135-154? Are top lb4lb fighters suddenly limited to these weight classes?

Yep. And they've got to have the first name Floyd, and so does their Dad.

Interesting question.

Are:

Kostya Tszyu (IBF and Linear 140 champ)
Carlos Maussa (WBA light Welter champ)
Luis Callazo (WBA Welter champ)
Juan Urango
Jose Luis Castillo


a better collection of fighters than:

Gatti (WBC 140 champ - "given" belt after WBC stripped KT)
Sharmba Mitchell. Basically done and fighting at 147
Zab Judah. Just lost to Baldo.
Baldomir. We all know the story here. (WBC and linear 147 champ)
ODLH. (WBC 154 champ)


I would say yes. And I'm not a great fan of Hatton, but lately he's fought better fighters.

[maracho]

Baldomir, Judah, Bruseles, Gatti, Mitchell, Corley, Sosa, over the hill la Hoya are not elite at least not when Floyd got to them. So I’ll give him two for his carreer including Corrales and Castillo.

Modern 135-154 lbs. Fighters who have fought more prime elite fighters include De La Hoya, Tszyu, Castillo, Casamayor, Raheem, Frietas, Corrales, Forest, Ouma, Gatti, Mayorga, Winky, Trinidad, Mosley, Quartey, Vargas, Whitaker, Julio Caesar Chavez etc…..

Heck, Margarito's wins over Clottey (who pounded Baldomir better than Floyd) and Cintron are way more impressive than Floyd’s latest wins.

Floyd's not old school like the above fighters he's just become a fattened franchise

[Toopretty]

The dumbest shit I ever read. Maussa/collazo better then judah..hahahahahahahahahahahha..Urango...Urango...better then baldomir..A 36 year old injured Tsyu better then ODH who is a little past his prime but can beat 90% of the fighters at 147-154 bbbbyee knockout..buahahahahhahabuahahahahahah

[thesandman]

The dumbest shit I ever read. Maussa/collazo better then judah..hahahahahahahahahahahha..Urango...Urango...better then baldomir..A 36 year old injured Tsyu better then ODH who is a little past his prime but can beat 90% of the fighters at 147-154 bbbbyee knockout..buahahahahhahabuahahahahahah

Name the last good opponent Judah beat, and when was it?

Name the last good opponent Baldo beat, that wasn't the above asshat. Gatti??? We all saw how much he's got left in the tank last weekend.

KT better than ODLH? Probably about the same. ODLH has won exactly how many fights in the last 3 years? Against who?? You can even throw in the gimme against Sturm if you like.

Are you saying KT couldn't have beat 90% of the fighters at 140 before Hatton? Ask Sharmba about that. Especially as Sharmba is on Floyds "this is what makes me great" list.

Floyd IMO is far and away the best boxer around at the moment. He just doesn't fight the people to prove it, that's all.

It's like New Zealand only playing rugby against Italy, Scotland and Spain, because they know they can beat the shit out of them 99.9 times out of 100.

[Toopretty]

Name the last good opponent Judah beat, and when was it?

Name the last good opponent Baldo beat, that wasn't the above asshat. Gatti??? We all saw how much he's got left in the tank last weekend.

KT better than ODLH? Probably about the same. ODLH has won exactly how many fights in the last 3 years? Against who?? You can even throw in the gimme against Sturm if you like.

Are you saying KT couldn't have beat 90% of the fighters at 140 before Hatton? Ask Sharmba about that. Especially as Sharmba is on Floyds "this is what makes me great" list.

Floyd IMO is far and away the best boxer around at the moment. He just doesn't fight the people to prove it, that's all.

It's like New Zealand only playing rugby against Italy, Scotland and Spain, because they know they can beat the shit out of them 99.9 times out of 100.

Ask yourself who is the last good or any good opponent that maussa or Collazo beat...And yeah Kosta's claim to fame is beating mitchell and judah....and floyd beat both so what are you talking about. Who else did kosta beat. Dont give me no JCC, he was fucking 40..lol

[Toopretty]

Ask yourself who is the last good or any good opponent that maussa or Collazo beat...And yeah Kosta's claim to fame is beating mitchell and judah....and floyd beat both so what are you talking about. Who else did kosta beat. Dont give me no JCC, he was fucking 40..lol

better yet urango...lol

[thesandman]

Ask yourself who is the last good or any good opponent that maussa or Collazo beat...And yeah Kosta's claim to fame is beating mitchell and judah....and floyd beat both so what are you talking about. Who else did kosta beat. Dont give me no JCC, he was fucking 40..lol

Kostya's claim to fame is becoming undisputed champ, and clearing out a division, and ruling it for a few years.

When has your boy Floyd done that?


Are you saying that Floyd has to feast on KT's leftovers now? At a higher weight too......

nd yeah Kosta's claim to fame is beating mitchell and judah....and floyd beat both so what are you talking about.

[Toopretty]

Mitchell is the same. He was never a great fighter. Neither was judah. Those are just two of many names on Floyds resume. And the biggest on Tsyus.wow.talk about losing this argument. Defending your title once a year against mandatories dont mean shit. That is whack. stepping up fighting naturally bigger stronger guys who are top 10 in there division is a lot more..should I say dangerous..or valiant.. or respectable.. Fuck that defending against mandatories shit..floyd could of did that....he took the high hard road. Lets say tsyu took that kind of risk..lol.wow..

[planetzion]

:lol: :lol: Well to be honest, the guys he's beaten from 140 up aren't all that much to shout about.

ODLH obviously the biggest name, but rarely fights, PBF really did not a lot, and won a SD.

I really can't be fucked looking up people and comparing records, but the biggest names he's beaten at each weight are what???

140 - Gatti?? (looks good now after last weekend right???)
147 - Baldo? Judah after losing to Baldo?? You tell me.
154 - 1 fight. SD over an inactive ODLH.

Stuff of legends? Or stuff of cherry picking division hopper. You tell me.

cherry picking division hopper :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

mayweather sucks :lol: :lol:

[thesandman]

Mitchell is the same. He was never a great fighter. Neither was judah. Those are just two of many names on Floyds resume. And the biggest on Tsyus.wow.talk about losing this argument. Defending your title once a year against mandatories dont mean shit. That is whack. stepping up fighting naturally bigger stronger guys who are top 10 in there division is a lot more..should I say dangerous..or valiant.. or respectable.. Fuck that defending against mandatories shit..floyd could of did that....he took the high hard road. Lets say tsyu took that kind of risk..lol.wow..

Stepping up and fighting naturally bigger stronger guys?

ODLH started at what weight?

And you've just shot your own argument right in the foot.

stepping up fighting naturally bigger stronger guys who are top 10 in there division is a lot more..should I say dangerous..or valiant.. or respectable..

Top 10 is right. Don't go near top 5.

So you tell me.

Fighting mandatories and clearing out a division OR stepping up a division and picking the weakest belt holder, then leaving the weight before being forced to defend a title.

You've just said so yourself. Don't defend the title. Move on, and find the weakest link in the next weight.

Out of all of Floyds last few fights, only Baldo hasn't himself stepped up weight classes too.

You can bet your sweet arse Floyd will never ever fight anyone who actually STARTED in the higher weight classes. Or who is really naturally bigger, unless they are shit. eg Baldo.


Floyd is without doubt a cherry picker.

Defend your title? Fuck that say Floyds fans, he might actually have to fight somebody that stands a chance then.

[Grinder]

The dumbest shit I ever read. Maussa/collazo better then judah..hahahahahahahahahahahha..Urango...Urango...better then baldomir..A 36 year old injured Tsyu better then ODH who is a little past his prime but can beat 90% of the fighters at 147-154 bbbbyee knockout..buahahahahhahabuahahahahahah

Floyd (would have) dodged KT. KT is the type of precision fighter that could KTFO PBF and send him into the same place he sent Zab.

There are others he has avoided at lower weights.

Take Gatti as an example. That was the easiest fight of all the four titles and PBF went for it. How long ago was that? What happened to Gatti four days ago against a "Contender"?

PBF takes the $ and the easy road. Too bad, because he can box.