Amir Khan compared to Prince Naseem?

[Outboxer]

We're all seeing what Khan looks like at the moment as a prospect, but how does he compare to Naseem (when HE was a prospect)?

This is what Naseem looked like in the ring when he'd had less fights than Khan does at the moment -

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[Muskyrat]

Similar in the way theyre hyped and that they needed to tighten theyre defence. Not similar styles though

[kurt2006]

Khan is no where near Hamed in terms of ability. Hamed had power and a chin. Khan has speed but nothing else.

[achillesthegreat]

Khan and Hamed are comparable. Hamed was a little more talented. He was very strong, hit immensely hard, took a great shot and had great reflexes with quite fast hands. Hamed was also a small man in his division, where as Khan is a big man in his!

I'm just watching the video. Hamed is one of the most audacious fighters every.

[DonPrestige]

Khan has more technical skill but not the natural talent of Naz. Will it take him further than Naz, dont think so but time will tell. Naz garnered a lot of respect because of that knockout power so combine that with his speed and reactions and he was dangerous. I just dont see that with Khan and now people think he's glass chinned people are gonna come right after him but hey maybe the kid can handle it.

[achillesthegreat]

Agreed, Don P. Are people gagging for a shot to tag that chin when previously they would have felt him out, thus giving Khan a chance to dictate the fight.

[naked heels]

I think khan is technically better than naz was at the same stage in their career.Both too wild and eager to please but if you was a trainer and you had the choice i think you would pick khan to work with.Khan has a lot to add to his game,naz had so much you would want to take away from his game before you started adding.I think khan is a lot more compact than naz and doesnt make as many glaring mistakes but of course time and opposition will tell.

[achillesthegreat]

People are talking alot of shit about Khans last fight but they are all wrong. On the chin issue that is one thing. However technically Khan has come on leaps and bounds.

He is not all bouncey on his toes like an amatuer. He is picking his shots more. Pacing himself better and yes he does keep his gloves up.

Khan never got caught because his gloves were low. He got caught because he was throwing a looping counter left hook when Limond threw a right down the pipe. Limonds punch got there quicker and harder. Khans defence has improved.

Khan still has a long way to go and as long as he is improving I am happy.

[mmickyward]

naseem was a freak(in a good way) and could knock a man out even while off balance.I like khan but unfortunaely dont see him winning a world title.I think some of the comparisons are made just coz both guys have asian roots(or their lack of driving skills).Amir creates the same buzz but in my opinion will never come close to matching the princes achievements

[Mook]

Hamed is one of the best fighters of the past 20 years. One loss did not make him a crud fighter.

Looking at them, hamed already had that incredibly unorthodox style down to a tee, but I don't think Khan has mastered the way he wants to fight just yet.

[The taff]

There's no comparison IMO. I wasn't a fan of Hamed's, but he DID have awesome power and had such a weird style.

They just get compared because because they are both asians.

Hamed WAS world class even though he was cocky as fk. Khan ISN'T world class. I know its early days, but Khan isn't going to get there, european tops (and that if he's lucky).

[The taff]

We're all seeing what Khan looks like at the moment as a prospect, but how does he compare to Naseem (when HE was a prospect)?

This is what Naseem looked like in the ring when he'd had less fights than Khan does at the moment -

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Just watched that, forgotten just how f'en cocky he was :yep

[Napuis]

Their only similarities are their weight divisions (roughly) and their racial ethnicity. Reminds me of how great Nas was though...simply brilliant

[kurt2006]

I think khan is technically better than naz was at the same stage in their career.Both too wild and eager to please but if you was a trainer and you had the choice i think you would pick khan to work with.Khan has a lot to add to his game,naz had so much you would want to take away from his game before you started adding.I think khan is a lot more compact than naz and doesnt make as many glaring mistakes but of course time and opposition will tell.

If I was a trainer I would think..:huh who will get me big paydays and Hamed would be the best choice.

Hamed was far more exciting to watch and never did he get wobbled as badly as Khan did on Saturday. The knockdowns against Alicia etc had little effect on Hamed.

[Amsterdam]

Their only similarities are their weight divisions (roughly) and their racial ethnicity. Reminds me of how great Nas was though...simply brilliant

Ethnically they are actually quite different. Both middle easterners, but of very different cultures.

[stake501]

No comparison....hamed's chin was solid.....Kelly wasa fearsome puncher as well when they fought

Barrera couldnt get hamed out of there and this is prime Barrera against a shell of the former Hamed.

Put it this way Prime Hamed (robinson beating Hamed) would have knocked Barrera Hamed out in 3 rounds.

i think hamed gets extra stick not only becasue he was cocky but because we know if he stayed with Ingle how good he could have become. His attitude in the documentary before the Barrera fight was unbelievable. You could see in the run up tothe fight there was no way Hamed would win considering he had done almost zero training.

[stake501]

Ethnically they are actually quite different. Both middle easterners, but of very different cultures.

I think Khan is not middle eastern but south asian (from ****stan?)

[Nemesis]

Khan couldnt carry Hamed's jockstrap!

Hamed actually had the reflexes to not get hit, whilst Khan has better hand speed

Hamed had the potential to be a top 3 Featherweight of all time, unfortunately gluttony got the better of him

[UndisputedUK]

Hamed was a huge puncher and had a very decent chin. He was knocked down by big hitters, Kevin Kelley (the flash) and Daniel Alicea but was not hurt.

I would say Khan has great speed, average power at British level and a weak beard. He's not a concussive puncher and he will struggle to make the lightweight limit.

He may win a few fights, but when a proper lightweight with a 50-60% KO clip hits him, he's gone. A move to 140 will see him Kayoed even earlier.

Good luck to him, if he has success, it's against the odds. If he continues to fight he should provide some excitement. I'll still watch him.

[rooq]

they're incomparible. khan is just a very fast orthodox fighter who's tall for his weight division. hamed was a very unorthodox fighter, small for his division but with great punching power. he was arrogant but came out with shit with a smile on his face and you could tell he was just playing the hype game and it was fun to watch. khan wants to be like that but can't carry it off - he just comes across as a bit of a twat when he tries to act cocky.

hamed was also nowhere near as hyped as khan...not until he actually deserved it. he didn't have his whole career aired at prime time.

so to summarise....why the hell are we comparing khan to hamed????

[Brighton bomber]

No comparisons in my opinion. Hamed is much more naturally gifted than Khan. Hamed had fast hands, superb reflexes, good chin, great agility and flexibility and most importantly huge power. Khan has speed and is tall for his division but lacks Hameds natural gifts. Hamed also had a good trainer and while he was never as technically sound he had more skill and a very awkward but effective style that worked for him.

[Nemesis]

No comparisons in my opinion. Hamed is much more naturally gifted than Khan. Hamed had fast hands, superb reflexes, good chin, great agility and flexibility and most importantly huge power. Khan has speed and is tall for his division but lacks Hameds natural gifts. Hamed also had a good trainer and while he was never as technically sound he had more skill and a very awkward but effective style that worked for him.

just a side note Emanuel Steward was saying he was knocking middleweights out regularly in sparring

[stake501]

Steward also said he hardly ever showed up for sparring

[Brighton bomber]

just a side note Emanuel Steward was saying he was knocking middleweights out regularly in sparring

Yes from earlyon in his career people were saying he hit like a middleweight which is shocking for a guy who started at flyweight.

[kurt2006]

Yes from earlyon in his career people were saying he hit like a middleweight which is shocking for a guy who started at flyweight.

They used to say he sparred with the likes of Johnny Nelson, Ryan Rhodes and co.

Khan has become cocky but does not have the ring skill to carry this off. Hamed was cocky but his performances in the ring backed this up.

[The taff]

Put it this way Prime Hamed (robinson beating Hamed) would have knocked Barrera Hamed out in 3 rounds.

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I dont think so, Prime Hamed when he beat Robinson?? Robinson was a tough but very average journeyman who Hamed beat in 8 rounds, Barrera is in a different class altogether. When Hamed fought the elite, he got beat - end of. Cracks were showing before that fight big time.

[Vantage_West]

There's no comparison IMO. I wasn't a fan of Hamed's, but he DID have awesome power and had such a weird style.

They just get compared because because they are both asians.

Hamed WAS world class even though he was cocky as fk. Khan ISN'T world class. I know its early days, but Khan isn't going to get there, european tops (and that if he's lucky).

the man i feel suits khan down to a tee is this man jawaid khalik
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he was of ****stani origins,was a british boxer and very very much like khan in the way he used his skill,power and speed. also he was a welterwieght. and 5'10

if anyone has a chance to find a fight of him you'll see how similar they are.

and about khans chin...those were some stunning shots and it was a brutal right hand that caught khan...people make out that he was exposed:huh but idnt he knock willie over, break his jaw,broke his nose ,perferate his eardrum and actually finish willies career (so i heard).

i feel people are looking into that weak chins make poor champions some of the best fighters in history had dodgy chins

[Vantage_West]

I dont think so, Prime Hamed when he beat Robinson?? Robinson was a tough but very average journeyman who Hamed beat in 8 rounds, Barrera is in a different class altogether. When Hamed fought the elite, he got beat - end of. Cracks were showing before that fight big time.robinson was by no means a 'average' journeyman he was maybe one of the top 5 best welsh champions he had lung problems early in his career and later grew with them if you watch him fight he was somthing special not AVERAGE stop looking into his record and actully watch the man

[kurt2006]

I dont think so, Prime Hamed when he beat Robinson?? Robinson was a tough but very average journeyman who Hamed beat in 8 rounds, Barrera is in a different class altogether. When Hamed fought the elite, he got beat - end of. Cracks were showing before that fight big time.

I think you need to rephrase that. When a cocky guy from Sheffield who could not be ar$ed to train fought MAB he got beat.

If you think that was a prime Hamed in with MAB then you are wrong.

Khan will never reach the heights of Hamed.

[The taff]

robinson was by no means a 'average' journeyman he was maybe one of the top 5 best welsh champions he had lung problems early in his career and later grew with them if you watch him fight he was somthing special not AVERAGE stop looking into his record and actully watch the man

Haven't had to look at his record as i've seen most of his fights actually. In fact some of his early losses i thought he was robbed. He beat a shot Duke McKenzike and Ho Ko, and an old Cruz. He came at a time when the division was weak. I like Steve Robinson, and i am also Welsh, he had a great defense, but you cant put him in the league of the top featherweights in the world while he held that belt. Maybe i should re phrase it to good journeyman.


Plus Robinson was scared of Naz when he took that fight, he had no option but to fight him. When he fought Cruz, just Naz being there in the arena was getting to him. He had lost that fight before he even got in the ring. So Naz beating Steve Robinson wasn't Naz beating a top level fighter IMO. If you are saying that was Prime Naz, in my opinion he still wouldn't have beaten Barrera at that point in his career.

Barrera at that point was heads above Robinson

[The taff]

I think you need to rephrase that. When a cocky guy from Sheffield who could not be ar$ed to train fought MAB he got beat.

If you think that was a prime Hamed in with MAB then you are wrong.

Khan will never reach the heights of Hamed.

I never said he was prime in that fight, but lets face it once he was fighting at top level, cracks were already showing, thats my point.

[hitman_hatton1]

hamed was so much more suited to the pro's.

for a start he was a terrific puncher. u can question everything else about him but not his power. :bbb

great reflexes and a very loose, fluid style.

great stamina.

he was tough thru many years of sparring bigger men and often full fledged pro's.

naz was sparring pro's and being groomed for the pro's in his early teenage years.

khan has been boxing in the amateurs for years and been surrounded by amateurs.

naz was a much better prospect. :deal

[1fletch]

Fucking hell whenever I see the old videos where he says at the end something like 'il be a legend, best ever', I wanna weep. I hope he does come back, win or loss he needs to prove himself more than he ever did in his winning streak

[The taff]

Fucking hell whenever I see the old videos where he says at the end something like 'il be a legend, best ever', I wanna weep. I hope he does come back, win or loss he needs to prove himself more than he ever did in his winning streak

He wouldn't be any good if he came back now, he's been out too long, his prime has past him by.

[stake501]

Taff...I never said prime Hamed would beat Barerra......

what I meant to convey was that the version of Hamed who fought Robinson (young hungry talented and Ingle trained) would have beaten the Hamed who fought Barrera (lazy spoilt arrogant Steward trained ) within three rounds.


He had all the physical tools to be great, he didnt have the mental foritude to stay at the top once he reached it.

[hitman_hatton1]

Taff...I never said prime Hamed would beat Barerra......

what I meant to convey was that the version of Hamed who fought Robinson (young hungry talented and Ingle trained) would have beaten the Hamed who fought Barrera (lazy spoilt arrogant Steward trained ) within three rounds.


He had all the physical tools to be great, he didnt have the mental foritude to stay at the top once he reached it.

the 95 hamed was world's better.

such a shame ****** never grew a pair and ordered the wbo to make the barrera fight back in 95. :rasta

i personally think hamed just had a young man's style.

i think he speeded up his decline by fighting less often and letting his weight go in between fights.

but his style and lack of fundamentals would have always brought about his downfall earlier than expected i think. :-(

[The taff]

Put it this way Prime Hamed (robinson beating Hamed) would have knocked Barrera Hamed out in 3 rounds.

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. In the middle of your post top of page 2, only responding to what you said - so you are saying he would have beat himself ? Sorry, thought you were saying robinson beating Hamed would beat Barrera in 3 rounds, sorry it was the way i read it obviously.

I apologise.

[Outboxer]

The Hamed who beat Robinson was just scary.

He literally looked as if he was completely playing in the ring on that night -- it was Hamed's masterpiece.

[TheSweetScience]

Khan is no where near Hamed in terms of ability. Hamed had power and a chin. Khan has speed but nothing else.

Hamed had a chin? Khan has speed/power..just doesn't have the one punch KO power

[Papa_Bear]

Hamed had a chin? Khan has speed/power..just doesn't have the one punch KO power

He most certainly did. With that style of his, he would barely have lasted a couple of years at the top level without one.

[El Cepillo]

Their only similarities are their weight divisions (roughly) and their racial ethnicity. Reminds me of how great Nas was though...simply brilliant


Hamed is a British Arab of Yemini descent. Amir Khan is a British Muslim of ****stani descent. Two very different cultures and ethnicities there, my friend. :-(

[El Cepillo]

If Amir Khan has half as much success in his career as Naseem Hamed did, then I will eat my hat.

[El Cepillo]

Hamed had a chin? Khan has speed/power..just doesn't have the one punch KO power

It is fair to say that a guy who had 37 fights, and never got hurt or knocked out had a good chin. Don't ya think? :think

[hitman_hatton1]

It is fair to say that a guy who had 37 fights, and never got hurt or knocked out had a good chin. Don't ya think? :think

barrera had him hurt in those last 2 rds.

he was surviving in those last 2 rds. :yep

[El Cepillo]

barrera had him hurt in those last 2 rds.

he was surviving in those last 2 rds. :yep

Hamed's training camp for that fight consisted of getting a haircut and playing playstation. :lol:

[TFFP]

On talent, maybe not too far behind. In physical terms anyway, both were and are very talented, but obviously technically flawed. Hamed was always going to struggle against a fine technician, and Khan has no inside ability and still an unproven defence.

I think the key difference is Hamed always had a very solid chin and was mostly knocked down due to balance issues. Hamed was also a much stronger puncher, if Khan had that type of power to offset his chin he would be a live player for world titles.

[trotter]

There's no comparison.

I watched a Hamed fight, his 13th I think, on Nuts and it served to remind me how good he was. Different league altogether from Amir IMO. Nastier, spiteful fighter, way more single shot power, able to land clean hard punches from anywhere while staying out of range and elusive.

Nas was a sensationally gifted athlete and boxer.

As people have said, the only reason they are compared is because they are of broadly similar descent.

[Boxing Fanatic]

Hamed is just better. Maybe one day, Khan can prove us all wrong.

[kurt2006]

Comparing Naz to Amir is like comparing a Lamborghini to a Skoda Fabia.

Khan is not even close to Naz in any department. He has speed, a dodgy chin and a fan who calls himself Iron Bull and thats about it.

[JIM KELLY]

why do folks compare them to each other? I don't see anything similar in relation to boxing!
A better comparison is whitter and hamed.
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[El Cepillo]

comparing naz to amir is like comparing a lamborghini to a skoda fabia.

Khan is not even close to naz in any department. He has speed, a dodgy chin and a fan who calls himself iron bull and thats about it.


:d

[ShadowWorks]

The strange thing is Nas got lazy, bored then worse, Amir is working harder and doing the right things, this is a sliding scale, Nas shone very bright for a short time and Amir could get brighter, just off the bat Nas was leagues apart on ability, Amir looks like a hard worker, we will have to see how far hard work will get him.

[mattress]

No comparison at all....apart from hair colour and religion.

[Sir James]

Prince naseem was a genuine world champion and genuinely world class. Amir Khan is just some amateur who wants to become a pro boxer but never will. He was KTFO brutally by a Colombian taxi driver...:lol:

Comparing these two is an insult to the great Prince Naseem Hamed. I love Hamed and I dont want him to be insulted to be compared to an amateur asian fighter like Khan again. Once Khan can beat a domestic level british fighter then I will start to take notice.

[ShadowWorks]

He was KTFO brutally by a Colombian taxi driver..

Prescott does not drive a taxi, he is a professional boxer.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I don't really see the basis of comparison. Khan has got a major weakness which you cannot paper over the cracks.