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Relentless
07-17-2007, 12:09 PM
that most of them are/were sprinters,

shane mosley, winky wright, paulie malignaggi, luis collazo, kostya tszyu, jeff lacy, kermit cintron and paul williams

-are some that i noticed which had sprinters as their strength and conditioning coaches.

younghypnotiq
07-17-2007, 12:56 PM
should boxers join the track team? or are jsut incorportate sprinting into our workout?

Tettsuo
07-17-2007, 01:34 PM
Boxing is like doing 12 rounds of wind sprints.

Primadonna Kool
07-17-2007, 07:39 PM
should boxers join the track team? or are jsut incorportate sprinting into our workout?

Sprinters training program 100m, 200m, 400m sprinters, is all about speed endurance, explosiveness and Power, and Power to weight ratio
Sprinting is a high intensity sport, but you must maintain a yearly round conditioning programmes/fitness. Most movements in boxing, are all Aneroibic. Your muscles are working so hard, that the muscles demand for enregy surpass what the Aerobic energy system can produce, at Low Intensity, sprinting is a Anaerobic exercise, your muscles are working without oxygen. Most sprinters train like Olympic Power Lifters in the gym, Low reps high weight the main emphasis on improve maximum strength, to transfer into power.

Power is applying a force in the shortests amount of time. That is what Power is.

Sprinting should be incorporated into your program, This is stressing both the anaerobic energy system and Aerobic energy system,and improving Lactate Tolerance. For example, if i was to go down my local track. And decide to do 10x 200m with 1min recovery. After my first rep, my heart rate will be before 80%, this is the area where your Vo2max is being worked. As an athlete and boxer, you will be training your body to be explosive under fatigue, and Aerobic fitness and at high intensity. In boxing, you do not go at a slow pace, it is not a jog in the park.

David Haye, strength and conditioning coach was Duane Ledajoe, former European 400m sprint champion.

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younghypnotiq
07-17-2007, 07:50 PM
what do you recomend for me? sprints with jogs inbetween or sprint then rest sprint then rest

Relentless
07-17-2007, 07:53 PM
well he must have been doing a bad job because haye always tires.

Primadonna Kool
07-17-2007, 08:18 PM
well he must have been doing a bad job because haye always tires.

Duane Ledajoe, only started working with him for his last fight.

Primadonna Kool
07-17-2007, 08:19 PM
what do you recomend for me? sprints with jogs inbetween or sprint then rest sprint then rest

What ever you fancy doing, you could do 200m sprints, followed by a 200m jog. Or 200m sprints, with 1min recovery.

Kolya
07-17-2007, 09:50 PM
I think when Holyfield was moving up, and even at Heavyweight, Lee Haney played a big role in his camp. Manny Steward actually thinks very highly of Haney.

younghypnotiq
07-17-2007, 11:29 PM
What ever you fancy doing, you could do 200m sprints, followed by a 200m jog. Or 200m sprints, with 1min recovery.

thanks :good

Relentless
07-18-2007, 06:23 AM
I think when Holyfield was moving up, and even at Heavyweight, Lee Haney played a big role in his camp. Manny Steward actually thinks very highly of Haney.

i thought evander holyfield had dr squat fred hatfield helping him??

ofcourse alot of them are/were power lifters aswell such as manny pacquaio's old strength and conditioning coach ******e fortune who was also a boxer, ricky hattons guy looks pretty good but most guys have sprinters as their coach.

achillesthegreat
07-18-2007, 07:37 AM
Duane Ladajo is still working with Haye. He worked with him on the Bonin fight.

Duane is still in great shape.

Relentless
07-18-2007, 07:39 AM
well we didn't really get to see what ladajo has done with haye since the fight was over in 1

boxexpert
07-18-2007, 04:29 PM
today,i just ran 2x800m,2x400m,2x200m and 2x100m. felt good,next week ill do 12x200m

Kenny
07-18-2007, 11:00 PM
Mr. Kool,

I know what your saying but the fact is that if a boxer is in the condition he should be then boxing is not anaerobic...it is actually using the beta oxidation systen of energy demand and recovery and some lactate system as the fighters get into it.

If it were primarily anaerobic a fighter would simply shut down and stop firing withion seconds.

I'm a strength and conditioning trainer and have trained both boxers and mma fighters as well as most athletes.

I didn't read the rest of your post yet so I won't go on.

Kolya
07-18-2007, 11:01 PM
i thought evander holyfield had dr squat fred hatfield helping him??

ofcourse alot of them are/were power lifters aswell such as manny pacquaio's old strength and conditioning coach ******e fortune who was also a boxer, ricky hattons guy looks pretty good but most guys have sprinters as their coach.

He worked with him as well, particularly before the Tyson fight. But when he was moving up to heavyweight, it was Lee Haney who helped him do it; I assume they're friends as both are from Atlanta and are born again Christian.

Kenny
07-18-2007, 11:02 PM
Actually, Lee Haney ONLY implemented DR. Fred Hatfields training program for Evander because they were not in the same state. Dr Fred is a world holder in powerlifting and a brilliant man. His seminar is the best I've ever been to regarding strength and conditioning.

Kolya
07-18-2007, 11:04 PM
Yes, I Know Hatfield is a great strength and conditioning coach, I read the program he had for Holy and would implement it if I had the chance. But I do believe he worked with Lee Haney on a mass building weight lifting plan when he moved up; or so I was always told.

JMonster
07-18-2007, 11:39 PM
i would just run...a lot of fights, especially at our levels, can be won just because u have better stamina than ur opponent

boxbible
07-19-2007, 02:20 AM
Boxing is like middle distance running... a mixture of anaerobic and aerobic endurance... you gotta work both... PERIOD.

achillesthegreat
07-19-2007, 03:16 AM
well we didn't really get to see what ladajo has done with haye since the fight was over in 1
Maybe that in itself was a demonstration!

I saw clips of him and Haye running in the mountains.

achillesthegreat
07-19-2007, 03:17 AM
Boxing is 50-50 when it comes to anaerobic and aerobic.

Relentless
07-19-2007, 07:44 AM
Maybe that in itself was a demonstration!

I saw clips of him and Haye running in the mountains.

link??

i thought haye never runs.

achillesthegreat
07-20-2007, 03:08 AM
link??

i thought haye never runs.
Haye has switched up his training alot. You have two Hayes, pre and post Carl Thompson.

Watch the Sky Broadcast and you will see him running in the mountains with Duane. You will also see him doing LOTS of S&C.