Cintron vs Cotto?

[Doomas]

After Margarito loss, and great perfomance by Cintron this looks like a possible and very bloody matchup. Who would you pick to win this one?

I give slight edge to Cintron, becouse of his good stamina, height and amazing power, alltho Cottos heart and pressure style would help alot in this one.:bbb

[Alo2006]

Call me crazy, but I think Cintron would KO Cotto. Yeah I said it :D :yep

[Relentless]

you're crazy

[InHumanForm]

if cintron would hit cotto with that left hook/upper cut right hook combo he took out mathysse with, cotto would go down for good. and that's coming from a huge cotto fan, but damn Cintron looked strong.

[Relentless]

and are we forgetting who cintron was fighting?

[Lampley]

and are we forgetting who cintron was fighting?

Yeah, I think Kermit is in danger of getting seriously overrated on this forum. It was a great win and he looks extremely dangerous, but he still has much to prove.

[InHumanForm]

i realize he was fighting a low grade opponent, but the man has accumilated quite the KO percentage and now with Manny helping him "Klitchko" it up his power may be even more deadly. This fight would be a war, but i think it would be much closer than some would think and Cotto would be hurt at some point.

[mightyd40]

i think that cotto would walk through cintron via brutal ko.

[dwilson]

The same old story of a guy ko'ing a decent guy then being proclaimed as the second coming. Cotto by ko.

[amunz81]

beinf a fellow rican myself i would hate to see this fight, wouldnt want either one of them to lose! lol

[JAM Killer]

Cotto would destroy Cintron. No doubt in my mind.

[the_what]

Cintron has the power to keep Cotto down for the count if he were to land his right hand. But if Cotto can weather the storm early he would dominate Cintron in the late rounds. Would be a great fight.

[jc]

Power definately goes to Cintron imo, I dont think anyone can doubt that. All round ability goes to Cotto though imo.

I like Cintron alot, his last fight really impressed me, if he has the depth in talent to last with the top names at 47 is yet to be seen but its great to have even more added spice to this already great division...

[Imperial1]

I will go with Cotto ...As impressive as Cintron looked I am not totally sold on him just yet !He needs another fight agaisnt a top ranked fighter before he can step to the likes of Cotto ..

[Doomas]

Yeah, I think Kermit is in danger of getting seriously overrated on this forum. It was a great win and he looks extremely dangerous, but he still has much to prove.
Yes your probably right.He doesnt have alot of fights compared to others, but I think its time to see what he realy is made off.

[Stimulant]

Cotto would punish Cintron til he quit.

[Lampley]

Yes your probably right.He doesnt have alot of fights compared to others, but I think its time to see what he realy is made off.

That's how I feel too. I'd like to see Cintron vs. Williams, because until that is settled, I don't think either of those guys has the status to command a fight against the Big 3, unless something just falls in their laps.

[Alo2006]

if cintron would hit cotto with that left hook/upper cut right hook combo he took out mathysse with, cotto would go down for good. and that's coming from a huge cotto fan, but damn Cintron looked strong.

That's what I'm saying. Cotto is not a bob a weave type fighter. He comes in to destroy, which Cintron would fair well against, being that he's a good counter puncher. Cotto style is made for Cintron's style.

[DatBo215]

I would hate to see this match up any time soon being Puerto Rican and all... i would rather see them both go as far as the can before they fight, but if the were to fight soon cotto by ko. Cintron is looking better and he is very strong, but he hasn't shown he could do it against tougher comp and he hasn't yet shown he can now handle pressure fighters. yea he looked great in his last fight but matth just let him go to work. Cotto would bring the fight to him like margo did. I also think cintron is close to being a bit overrated. I mean he looked good this weekend, but his oppenent was coming off a year and a half layoff and all... i think we gotta see him against some tougher comp still.

[WhataRock]

I think Cintron's chin is a little underrated and he has improved in all fields since the Margarito debacle.

I will say Cotto gets it but it will be an exciting fight.
Cotto has been caught and hurt by punches from guys who fight unorthodox and caught with a fairly unorthodox punch. Cintron is more talented than skillfull, so I think he fits this bill.
I think Cintron hits a lot harder than Judah and Torres, plus has the bulk to at least not get bullied around by Cotto. If not turn the tables on him.

Cotto is special though, he has a lot more skill and he is the kind of fighter that will find a way and would never allow himself to get totally dominated by a fighter like Cintron. I don'tm think Cotto has that kind of fight turning one punch power but he has that kind of power that can drain a guy and take the fight out of him.
I think Cintron's ability to take big punches is underrated but its clear he is not the guy who could take sustained punishment.
I feel he has more chin than true heart, which would play into Cotto's hands.

No doubt however that Kermit is a huge punchers chance in this fight.

[Toopretty]

Cintron cant box...BUT..he has the most powerful punch out of all the god damn welters..I mean I know power. It wasnt like he landed a lucky punch. He was cracking dude with that right hand with combos. I mean those were HUGE punches. Cotto is hittable, but he can break cintron down very easy. Shit I dont know about this one. I like Cotto a whole lot, Cintron been a hype job..but that right hand...I mean..motherfucker looked like hearns..I know the other math dude was standing dead in front of him coming forward and not throwing a jab or anything. But Cintron got a mother fucking equalizer. I dont like him and I have to admit that. He probably lose, but in the back of my mind I can see him catching cotto in an exchange. I would like to see cintron/clottey or williams to further assess his new found abilities. lol

[H .]

Cotto by KO. I'd rather see Cintron fight Williams.

[errsta]

I'm with the crazy guy...I'd go with Cintron.

The margarito debacle was 99% mental and I think training at kronk has done wonders for his exposure. For all of his power, he still has not fallen in love with his power to the point of getting into unecessary exchanges. He is cautious enough to follow whatever gameplan Steward lays out for him.

Cintron is an attentive enough pupil to not go to war with Cotto and I feel Cotto would be KO'd. Cintron better watch his balls though...

[Chileno606]

Cintron has a good punchers chance, but I would still favor Cotto to win by TKO eventually. Cintron is too robotic in his movements and doesnt fight well going back. Cotto's pressure and body work would break him down and KO him. also, Cintron cant fight on the inside.

[TheGreat]

Cintron went life and death with light punching Estrada and was shook up several times so I feel Cotto would kill the hype job known as Cintron.

[scurlaruntings]

Stylewise Cintron is terrible for anyone bar Margarito and Williams at 47.He is literally a massive welter and im not sure HOW he manages to make weight considering he wrestled in college at 154.His power is phenomenal.I dont think even the great Cotto could take shots like that and unless he could get in close would be on the end of a KO.

[Sug3]

I made a thread a long time ago saying cintron would ko cotto and mosley would outclass cotto and i still stick by my word,it took cintron to knockout matthysse for most of u to realize that.U forget that cotto struggled with urkal and urkal is not half the fighter margarito is,cotto to me needs to fight a real welterweight like clottey in order to step up against guy's like margarito,williams,mosley or cintron.Cotto would get seriously hurt against cintron and dont expect arum or cotto to even mention cintron.

[carras]

Cotto by late tko.
I'd rather see williams/cintron

[psychopath]

Tough fight for both.

Don't forget that Cintron melted under pressure of Margarito's attack. But Damn he showed tremendous improvement under Manny. If the guy can adjust and take the heat of Cotto's onslaught and hit Coto with those three bombs combination, he can win this fight. No way he can K.D. Coto with a single punch. The only way he can do it is the way he put down Mattysse.

. . . I'm still chosing Coto.

[albaneze]

Call me crazy, but I think Cintron would KO Cotto. Yeah I said it :D :yep

More crazier than crazy......

[Sug3]

My top 10 welterweight rankings right now.

1.Paul Williams
2.Shane mosley/Floyd Mayweather
3.Kermit Cintron/Antonio Margarito
4.Joshua Clottey
5.Miguel Cotto
6.Luis collazo
7.Zab Judah
8.Carlos Quintana
9.Joel Julio
10.Andre Berto


The reason why i put cotto at number 5,because he really struggle against a junior welterweight in urkal,just imagine what margarito's pressure would do.I dont see cotto beating anybody above the top 4 i mentioned.Williams would make cotto look like a sparring session especially with all the angles and movement he would give cotto,mosley would outclass cotto like i said before,clottey has the chin,stamina and ability to win a decision against cotto,margarito would break cotto down and stop him late,cintron would destroy and knock cotto out and mayweather would just simply pick him apart.

[Luigi1985]

My top 10 welterweight rankings right now.

1.Paul Williams
2.Shane mosley/Floyd Mayweather
3.Kermit Cintron/Antonio Margarito
4.Joshua Clottey
5.Miguel Cotto
6.Luis collazo
7.Zab Judah
8.Carlos Quintana
9.Joel Julio
10.Andre Berto


The reason why i put cotto at number 5,because he really struggle against a junior welterweight in urkal,just imagine what margarito's pressure would do.I dont see cotto beating anybody above the top 4 i mentioned.Williams would make cotto look like a sparring session especially with all the angles and movement he would give cotto,mosley would outclass cotto like i said before,clottey has the chin,stamina and ability to win a decision against cotto,margarito would break cotto down and stop him late,cintron would destroy and knock cotto out and mayweather would just simply pick him apart.


If the sun shines, weed takes effect with more intense, buddy...

[King Dan]

Cotto would stop Cintron late, probably after getting buzzed pretty good.

Top welters:

Floyd
Cotto
Mosley
Williams
Margarito

[Relentless]

My top 10 welterweight rankings right now.

1.Paul Williams
2.Shane mosley/Floyd Mayweather
3.Kermit Cintron/Antonio Margarito
4.Joshua Clottey
5.Miguel Cotto
6.Luis collazo
7.Zab Judah
8.Carlos Quintana
9.Joel Julio
10.Andre Berto


The reason why i put cotto at number 5,because he really struggle against a junior welterweight in urkal,just imagine what margarito's pressure would do.I dont see cotto beating anybody above the top 4 i mentioned.Williams would make cotto look like a sparring session especially with all the angles and movement he would give cotto,mosley would outclass cotto like i said before,clottey has the chin,stamina and ability to win a decision against cotto,margarito would break cotto down and stop him late,cintron would destroy and knock cotto out and mayweather would just simply pick him apart.

:nutcase

[El Bombasto]

Cotto's too tough for Cintron. Kermit may have some early moments, but I think Miguel breaks him down for a late KO.

[El Bombasto]

My top 10 welterweight rankings right now.

1.Paul Williams
2.Shane mosley/Floyd Mayweather
3.Kermit Cintron/Antonio Margarito
4.Joshua Clottey
5.Miguel Cotto
6.Luis collazo
7.Zab Judah
8.Carlos Quintana
9.Joel Julio
10.Andre Berto


The reason why i put cotto at number 5,because he really struggle against a junior welterweight in urkal,just imagine what margarito's pressure would do.I dont see cotto beating anybody above the top 4 i mentioned.Williams would make cotto look like a sparring session especially with all the angles and movement he would give cotto,mosley would outclass cotto like i said before,clottey has the chin,stamina and ability to win a decision against cotto,margarito would break cotto down and stop him late,cintron would destroy and knock cotto out and mayweather would just simply pick him apart.

You are giving Williams way too much credit for beating Margarito

[Caper]

Excellent thread

To be honest with you if Cintron continues to improve he can derail Cotto and really KO that train. I'm a big fan of Cotto but Cintron's punching power is scary :scaredas:

With that said for some reason Cotto just has that determination factor that you rarely see in a fighter, there's no quit in him and that seems to be Kermits Kryptonite.

I really can't chose a winner at the moment, I rather see Cintron fight Williams first to see how he handles volume pressure as compared to Cotto's power punching pressure.

[IntentionalButt]

Yes, please!

[Caper]

Excellent thread

To be honest with you if Cintron continues to improve he can derail Cotto and really KO that train. I'm a big fan of Cotto but Cintron's punching power is scary :scaredas:

With that said for some reason Cotto just has that determination factor that you rarely see in a fighter, there's no quit in him and that seems to be Kermits Kryptonite.

I really can't chose a winner at the moment, I rather see Cintron fight Williams first to see how he handles volume pressure as compared to Cotto's power punching pressure.

On second thought scratch that I rather see Cintron fight Margo first then Williams. That's if he can negate what happened the first fight.

[Ramshall1]

Shane
Cintron
Cotto
Margarito
FMJ
Williams

Any of these guys are capable of beating any of the others.

[IntentionalButt]

Shane
Cintron
Cotto
Margarito
FMJ
Williams

Any of these guys are capable of beating any of the others.

Maybe at Russian Roullete, but that's about it.

[Alo2006]

I'm with the crazy guy...I'd go with Cintron.

The margarito debacle was 99% mental and I think training at kronk has done wonders for his exposure. For all of his power, he still has not fallen in love with his power to the point of getting into unecessary exchanges. He is cautious enough to follow whatever gameplan Steward lays out for him.

Cintron is an attentive enough pupil to not go to war with Cotto and I feel Cotto would be KO'd. Cintron better watch his balls though...


That's all my crazy butt was saying :lol:

[Alo2006]

Shane
Cintron
Cotto
Margarito
FMJ
Williams

Any of these guys are capable of beating any of the others.


Put Clottey in that mix :good

[Ramshall1]

Put Clottey in that mix :good

I think he's just below that level right now, but given another shot at the top and maybe he proves to be top 5 worthy.

[markbrooklyn]

Cintron has NO heart and is a pussy.. Yeah he knocked that dude out cold but so what? He had power when he was facing Margarito and Margarito hit him with some good shuts but nothing major and he fell to the canvas and looked over to his corner for them to stop the fight. Cotto will destroy him. As soon as he gets hit in that skinny body he will take a dive trust me on that one! Someone please upload the fight between Cintron and Margarito so you can see what a PUSSY and heartless punk he is.

[Relentless]

Cintron has NO heart and is a pussy.. Yeah he knocked that dude out cold but so what? He had power when he was facing Margarito and Margarito hit him with some good shuts but nothing major and he fell to the canvas and looked over to his corner for them to stop the fight. Cotto will destroy him. As soon as he gets hit in that skinny body he will take a dive trust me on that one! Someone please upload the fight between Cintron and Margarito so you can see what a PUSSY and heartless punk he is.

you definatly never boxed before, even if you sparred you would have known how much balls it takes to get into the ring.

[Lance_Uppercut]

I think Cotto breaks him down or wins a UD. Cotto on another level then Cintron right now.

[Lance_Uppercut]

I wouldn't say that Cotto's on a higher level than Cintron. His biggest win is against a small welter weight in Judah and even that win wasn't too convincing in many people's eyes. WHo knows what would have happened if he hadn't low blowed judah's testicles, and as far as I know, boxing is about styles and I believe Cintron has what it takes to frustrate Cotto.

Cintron by KO

It's not Cotto's biggest win that seperates them, it's overall competition. Cotto's steped up a long time before Cintron did. And he'd have beaten Judah regardless of the low blows. It was the pounding to the face and body that beat Judah into submission.

Cintron's still a work in progress. He's not even close to his potential. Now whether he reaches it is another story.

[joe the great]

How about Williams-Cintron?

[lyricalmist]

i just watched cintron-matthysse (sp.i prob butchered it) on hbo on demand and while that was a great performance by cintron i didnt really see anything but his power that could give cotto problems.

after all, there was only 2 rounds worth to see.

at this point I feel that cotto still beats him as i feel he is a superior fighter with more experience.

cintron still has plenty of time to step up so its not like the possibility of him beating cotto ever is none.

[markbrooklyn]

you definatly never boxed before, even if you sparred you would have known how much balls it takes to get into the ring.

Ummmm.. I never claimed to have boxed. Is this a boxers forum to write comments or a fans? To me hes a pussy if he can go and dish it to people and knock them out but when the shoe is on the other foot he goes and quits and looks in his corner almost cryin. sorry

[achillesthegreat]

Yeah, make the fight happen. Would be great to see O Man just break down. He would just fall apart.

[Chiko_Tech]

I heard in a puertorrican newspaper that Cintron will be in the undercard of Mayorga vs Vargas against p4p Jessie Feliciano, he said that he want to stay busy and not been incative like he was recently, he will fight two times this year and then go for a mega fight in 2008.


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[Danny]

and are we forgetting who cintron was fighting?

My thinking exactly. Cintron last outnig was a very impressive KO, & I feel Kermit has improved under Manny Steward. However, going in their with Cotto is an entirely different proposition in my view. Cintron may have looked strong, but I doubt he can match Cotto for strength.

As in the majority of Cotto's bouts, his body attack would be a key factor. Miguel knows the importance of a sustained body attack, how effective it can be etc.

It's a fight I'd like to see, actually.

[Caper]

I heard in a puertorrican newspaper that Cintron will be in the undercard of Mayorga vs Vargas against p4p Jessie Feliciano, he said that he want to stay busy and not been incative like he was recently, he will fight two times this year and then go for a mega fight in 2008.


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Jeez why would Cintron waste his time against Jessie, I can't take this talk seriously, Jessie will be crushed. Really I'm concerned for his health.:dead

[pjo479]

would be an interesting fight to say the least ... i think cintron would present alot of problems for cotto just based on his size