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compukiller
05-08-2008, 10:52 PM
The injury or the violent KO he would have received in the actual fight against Mosley??:think

Fab2333
05-08-2008, 10:56 PM
injury, who said mosley was gonna KO him?

compukiller
05-08-2008, 10:58 PM
injury, who said mosley was gonna KO him?


Common sense would dictate he would. Mosley is too much for Zab, and would not last 6 or 7 rds.

Atritionist
05-08-2008, 11:05 PM
I think Zab was on his way to get knock out. The injusy saved him. I hope the fight gets re scheduled and still happends in the near future.

SchweitzerMan
05-08-2008, 11:09 PM
Hopefully. Maybe sometime in July

WhataRock
05-08-2008, 11:12 PM
I dont share everyone's confidence of SSM just mowing through Zab.

Believe me this being from a huge Sugar fan, that was a fight that made me nervous. Who knows this could benefit shane.

CJLightweight
05-08-2008, 11:14 PM
of course the injury was worse..

Borincano
05-08-2008, 11:22 PM
I believe the beating he was going swallow again. Another lose like the Cotto fight and he has to think about calling it a career.

I_Neutral
05-08-2008, 11:36 PM
What would be worse for zab is not making the x amount of millions he'll get fighting mosley.

Marnoff
05-08-2008, 11:39 PM
This fight being called off is a damn shame, and I really hope they can reschedule it very soon. This had fireworks written all over it.

El Matador
05-08-2008, 11:41 PM
This fight being called off is a damn shame, and I really hope they can reschedule it very soon. This had fireworks written all over it. This is pretty lame news to me. I just read the article.

I was looking forward to a great fight with Mosley being triumphant. Looks like we're all going to have to wait.:crybaby

Dynamite Kid
05-08-2008, 11:45 PM
The injury or the violent KO he would have received in the actual fight against Mosley??:think

What in your mind makes you think that would have happened for sure? It's the Mosley camp right now that looks suspect not Zab.

Dynamite Kid
05-08-2008, 11:46 PM
Common sense would dictate he would. Mosley is too much for Zab, and would not last 6 or 7 rds.

Delousional:-(

El Matador
05-08-2008, 11:47 PM
What in your mind makes you think that would have happened for sure? It's the Mosley camp right now that looks suspect not Zab. Please explain.:huh

compukiller
05-08-2008, 11:50 PM
Delousional:-(

Zab folds under pressure in his fights, and Mosley can provide pressure to Zab all night long.

Dynamite Kid
05-08-2008, 11:52 PM
Please explain.:huh

The fight could have been rescheduled for HBO WCB. Jin Mosley turned it down and said "absloutley not" and Shane isn't doing anything about it. Now Shane and Jin are looking at Mayorga to take Zab's place. I see now why Shane didn't wanna take the 100,000 side bet. Deep down he wasn't to sure about this fight.

Dynamite Kid
05-08-2008, 11:58 PM
Zab folds under pressure in his fights, and Mosley can provide pressure to Zab all night long.

Shane Folds when things aren't going his way either. Look back at his first fight with Forrest, and his first fight with Winky. Skill wise Zab is way better than Mosley. Better jab, faster, puts punches together better. Cardio is all Mosley got over Zab, and if Zab came prepared to go 12 rds, then Zab wins. Power wise I think there equal. Neither one of them have ko'd big name fighters at welterweight, however Zab is more noted for knocking out Cory Spinks than anyone Shane has at 147:good

compukiller
05-09-2008, 12:00 AM
Shane Folds when things aren't going his way either. Look back at his first fight with Forrest, and his first fight with Winky. Skill wise Zab is way better than Mosley. Better jab, faster, puts punches together better. Cardio is all Mosley got over Zab, and if Zab came prepared to go 12 rds, then Zab wins. Power wise I think there equal. Neither one of them have ko'd big name fighters at welterweight, however Zab is more noted for knocking out Cory Spinks than anyone Shane has at 147:good

Shane beat a prime Oscar at 147, and gave Cotto a great fight (without being Ko'ed in the process).

Zab has not won a real fight in 4 years. He mentally does not have it anymore.

Dynamite Kid
05-09-2008, 12:08 AM
Shane beat a prime Oscar at 147, and gave Cotto a great fight (without being Ko'ed in the process).

Zab has not won a real fight in 4 years. He mentally does not have it anymore.

I'm not talking about Shane beating prime Oscar. I was talking about Shane and Zab's equal power. Shane hasn't ko'd anyone with a name at 147. And so what Zab got tko'd against Cotto. Look at Cotto's face after the Judah fight, and he'll say himself Zab is better than Shane. Cotto said that. Shane and Cotto had a great fight, but the Zab-Cotto fight was more physical. Zab really tested Cotto and provided a fight of the year candidate. Shane was just throwing 1 punch at a time. Just cause Shane went the distance and Zab didn't don't mean nothing. Both fights were fought differently.

compukiller
05-09-2008, 12:12 AM
I'm not talking about Shane beating prime Oscar. I was talking about Shane and Zab's equal power. Shane hasn't ko'd anyone with a name at 147. And so what Zab got tko'd against Cotto. Look at Cotto's face after the Judah fight, and he'll say himself Zab is better than Shane. Cotto said that. Shane and Cotto had a great fight, but the Zab-Cotto fight was more physical. Zab really tested Cotto and provided a fight of the year candidate. Shane was just throwing 1 punch at a time. Just cause Shane went the distance and Zab didn't don't mean nothing. Both fights were fought differently.

Cotto said Shane was his toughest fight. And Shane, having an iron chin, has never been KO'ed and would have never lost to Spinks, Baldomir, or been KO'ed with one punch by Kostya Tszyu.

He is quite simply a class above Zab. Always has been, always will be.

Bslice
05-09-2008, 12:14 AM
Cotto said Shane was his toughest fight. And Shane, having an iron chin, has never been KO'ed and would have never lost to Spinks, Baldomir, or been KO'ed with one punch by Kostya Tszyu.

He is quite simply a class above Zab. Always has been, always will be.:yep

jimmie
05-09-2008, 12:19 AM
I'm not talking about Shane beating prime Oscar. I was talking about Shane and Zab's equal power. Shane hasn't ko'd anyone with a name at 147. And so what Zab got tko'd against Cotto. Look at Cotto's face after the Judah fight, and he'll say himself Zab is better than Shane. Cotto said that. Shane and Cotto had a great fight, but the Zab-Cotto fight was more physical. Zab really tested Cotto and provided a fight of the year candidate. Shane was just throwing 1 punch at a time. Just cause Shane went the distance and Zab didn't don't mean nothing. Both fights were fought differently.

Cotto dominated both fights in the middle but atleast Shane came back the last 4-5 rounds and performed better then Cotto and made the fight a close one. Zab just continued to be assaulted and nearly got killed. I dont remember Cotto saying Zabs better he said he hit harder and so what Zabs a good puncher but he cant dent a great chinned fighter he never has. Shane at worst won 4-5 rounds Zab won 2 on his own and another do to a low blow. Cotto even admitted he ran away in the last round cause he thought it was the easy way to go cause Shane was getting to him.

jimmie
05-09-2008, 12:24 AM
Shane Folds when things aren't going his way either. Look back at his first fight with Forrest, and his first fight with Winky. Skill wise Zab is way better than Mosley. Better jab, faster, puts punches together better. Cardio is all Mosley got over Zab, and if Zab came prepared to go 12 rds, then Zab wins. Power wise I think there equal. Neither one of them have ko'd big name fighters at welterweight, however Zab is more noted for knocking out Cory Spinks than anyone Shane has at 147:good

:lol: Shane folds ? Then what does Zab do atleast Mosley never lost to Carlos Baldomir and whens Mosleys ever getting stopped ? Zab DOES NOT put combos together better then Mosley this aint fucking 2005 when Zab actually knew what a combo was. His last 3 fights hes just flicked a jab out and telegraphed left uppercut over and over. Shane didnt combo much vs Cotto but atleast he used more then one punche he used a variety and has done that his entire career even when he has resorted to 1 at a time. Zab doesnt even use a stiff jab much like Mosley so there jabs arent worth talking about. Zabs never been a 12 round fighter and theres a reason for that cause he doesnt have what it takes. Hes done after 4-5 rounds the only guy he ever did well vs late of note was Cory Spinks who himself is dead tired later from running in circles. Mosley ALWAYS gets a 2nd wind around round 8 and starts to put it on his opponets.

Dynamite Kid
05-09-2008, 12:24 AM
Cotto said Shane was his toughest fight. And Shane, having an iron chin, has never been KO'ed and would have never lost to Spinks, Baldomir, or been KO'ed with one punch by Kostya Tszyu.

He is quite simply a class above Zab. Always has been, always will be.

Cotto NEVER ever said that:lol: Maybe you should look back at Cotto's comments before and after the Mosley fight. He DOUBTED Shane would be his toughest fight, he said "we'll see". Then after he said the Zab was tougher. Looks like Cotto would disagree with you:hey So what Zab lost those fights. He beat Spinks back. And Spinks beat Mayorga and Mayorga is who Jin and Shane are looking for now for a replacement. Spinks wasn't no chump. Baldomir should have never happened, Tyszu? Hey shit happens. We talking how Shane and Zab would match up. And Zab is better than Mosley. Why you think his wife turned down a later date with Zab. The fight could have still been in June and could have been for free on WCB but Jin turned it down and said "absolutley not" and Shane ain't doing nothing about it:lol:

jimmie
05-09-2008, 12:28 AM
Cotto NEVER ever said that:lol: Maybe you should look back at Cotto's comments before and after the Mosley fight. He DOUBTED Shane would be his toughest fight, he said "we'll see". Then after he said the Zab was tougher. Looks like Cotto would disagree with you:hey So what Zab lost those fights. He beat Spinks back. And Spinks beat Mayorga and Mayorga is who Jin and Shane are looking for now for a replacement. Spinks wasn't no chump. Baldomir should have never happened, Tyszu? Hey shit happens. We talking how Shane and Zab would match up. And Zab is better than Mosley. Why you think his wife turned down a later date with Zab. The fight could have still been in June and could have been for free on WCB but Jin turned it down and said "absolutley not" and Shane ain't doing nothing about it:lol:

Read the article its saying dont be suprised if Mayorga is considered for the fight because hes the only avaible big name out there. Never says the fight is being discussed. Spinks beat Mayorga big fucking whoop. Mayorga owns 2 wins over Forrest who beat Shane twice its a good win for him.

Dynamite Kid
05-09-2008, 12:34 AM
:lol: Shane folds ? Then what does Zab do atleast Mosley never lost to Carlos Baldomir and whens Mosleys ever getting stopped ? Zab DOES NOT put combos together better then Mosley this aint fucking 2005 when Zab actually knew what a combo was. His last 3 fights hes just flicked a jab out and telegraphed left uppercut over and over. Shane didnt combo much vs Cotto but atleast he used more then one punche he used a variety and has done that his entire career even when he has resorted to 1 at a time. Zab doesnt even use a stiff jab much like Mosley so there jabs arent worth talking about. Zabs never been a 12 round fighter and theres a reason for that cause he doesnt have what it takes. Hes done after 4-5 rounds the only guy he ever did well vs late of note was Cory Spinks who himself is dead tired later from running in circles. Mosley ALWAYS gets a 2nd wind around round 8 and starts to put it on his opponets.

Hey I never said Zab doesn't fold. But Zab AIN'T the only one that gets fustrated when things don't go his way. And Zab DOES put punches together better than Mosley now. His combinations ARE better. Mosley's just throwing 1 punch at a time. You say Zab is telegraphing that uppercut? Yet Cotto still couldn't get away from it:lol: Zab even wobbled Cotto 3 times, Mosley didn't.

Dynamite Kid
05-09-2008, 12:38 AM
Read the article its saying dont be suprised if Mayorga is considered for the fight because hes the only avaible big name out there. Never says the fight is being discussed. Spinks beat Mayorga big fucking whoop. Mayorga owns 2 wins over Forrest who beat Shane twice its a good win for him.

Dude you seem to not be looking at what's in front of you. If Shane REALLY wanted the Zab fight. He would tell his wife:lol: The Mosley camp is suspect. The fight could have been rescheduled, THE MOSLEY CAMP TURNED IT DOWN! It could have worked out BETTER at a later date. It would have been on FREE HBO, AND IT COULD HAVE STILL HAPPENED IN JUNE. JIN MOSLEY TURED IT DOWN:lol: That's not that difficult to understand.

jimmie
05-09-2008, 01:02 AM
Dude you seem to not be looking at what's in front of you. If Shane REALLY wanted the Zab fight. He would tell his wife:lol: The Mosley camp is suspect. The fight could have been rescheduled, THE MOSLEY CAMP TURNED IT DOWN! It could have worked out BETTER at a later date. It would have been on FREE HBO, AND IT COULD HAVE STILL HAPPENED IN JUNE. JIN MOSLEY TURED IT DOWN:lol: That's not that difficult to understand.

Yeah cause let me guess Shane is scared of Judah a guy whos the 8th best fighter Shanes fought in his career :patsch

Dynamite Kid
05-09-2008, 01:51 AM
Yeah cause let me guess Shane is scared of Judah a guy whos the 8th best fighter Shanes fought in his career :patsch

First off let me get something straight. As far as recent opponents other than Cotto, Judah is the best guy he could have fought right now. Zab is better than Collazo, Vargas, Jose Luis Cruz, and David Estrada. Zab is a FAR bigger threat than they are. So yes, the Mosley camp looks VERY suspect. They dumped the fight when it could have been postponed. That's fishy to me. It doesn't sound to me like they were to thrilled about this fight. Shane turned down 100,000 that's number 1, and Jack Mosley seemed already start preparing the Mosley camp for a possible loss by saying both fighters can come back whoever loses. Which is TOTAL CRAP cause already took his share of losses. Hell Vernon and Winky said Zab got power over Shane. Why would Jin Mosley turn around and abandon the fight like that by saying "absolutley not" to the fight being postponed? Why doesn't Shane speak up and make that decision for himself? That's fishy:bart

jimmie
05-09-2008, 03:04 AM
First off let me get something straight. As far as recent opponents other than Cotto, Judah is the best guy he could have fought right now. Zab is better than Collazo, Vargas, Jose Luis Cruz, and David Estrada. Zab is a FAR bigger threat than they are. So yes, the Mosley camp looks VERY suspect. They dumped the fight when it could have been postponed. That's fishy to me. It doesn't sound to me like they were to thrilled about this fight. Shane turned down 100,000 that's number 1, and Jack Mosley seemed already start preparing the Mosley camp for a possible loss by saying both fighters can come back whoever loses. Which is TOTAL CRAP cause already took his share of losses. Hell Vernon and Winky said Zab got power over Shane. Why would Jin Mosley turn around and abandon the fight like that by saying "absolutley not" to the fight being postponed? Why doesn't Shane speak up and make that decision for himself? That's fishy:bart

Relax give a couple more days and lets here from some more legit sources. BT.com is a pro Judah site and they have straight up admitted that. Zab at this point is no better then a prime Collazo and especially a big strong Fernando Vargas who has more ability even now then Zab Judah will ever had. When will you people learn theres alot more to boxing then fast hands. He doesnt even use his fast hands anymore he just throws the same punch over and over with bad footwork and balance. Mayweather and Cotto ruined him and thankgod for that hes annoying and disgraces the sport ever time he shows his ugly mug on TV.

Dynamite Kid
05-09-2008, 08:04 PM
Relax give a couple more days and lets here from some more legit sources. BT.com is a pro Judah site and they have straight up admitted that. Zab at this point is no better then a prime Collazo and especially a big strong Fernando Vargas who has more ability even now then Zab Judah will ever had. When will you people learn theres alot more to boxing then fast hands. He doesnt even use his fast hands anymore he just throws the same punch over and over with bad footwork and balance. Mayweather and Cotto ruined him and thankgod for that hes annoying and disgraces the sport ever time he shows his ugly mug on TV.

You say Zab is no better than a prime Collazo and especially a big and strong Vargas? Let me remind you of something, that WASN'T a big and strong Vargas that Mosley fought. Prime Vargas would have done away with Mosley and would have scared him back to 147:lol: That was a wasted shadow of Vargas on the verdge of someone exposing him. Just so happens it was Shane... and Mayorga:-( And I can't believe you said Zab is no better than Collazo. I don't know what to say about that one, that's just biased anti-Judah talk:-(