View Full Version : Darnell "Ding-a-ling" Wilson Vs. Guillermo Jones
maracho
07-17-2007, 02:54 PM
Heck with Adameck, Maccarenelli, and Arslan, Guillermo Jones has the more impressive record and I don’t know why on earth these guys are rated above him at Cruiser. Jones KO’d Jeremy Bates in the 1st, Kelvin Davis in the 4th, Braithwaite in the 4th and before that won the later rounds in an extremely close fight with Cunningham. Cunningham even said that he and Jones deserve the big fights more than anyone. Their records are as impressive as those of Marmeck’s and Haye’s.
Ding also should get a shot but needs a tune-up so a match between these two seems most appropriate. The winner can take on Cunningham or the winner of Marmeck/Haye.As Ding said himself, forget the abc belts (although Jones has the Latino WBC & WBA) and make the best fights happen:good
emanuel_augustus
07-17-2007, 03:49 PM
Jones is a tough fight at Cruiser. He has good skills, knows how to work in range, and an excellent workrate for the division. That's a tough fight for Ding.
Looks like Jones may be campaigning at heavy though.
maracho
07-17-2007, 04:10 PM
Jones is a tough fight at Cruiser. He has good skills, knows how to work in range, and an excellent workrate for the division. That's a tough fight for Ding.
Looks like Jones may be campaigning at heavy though.
I cant blame him for going to heavy because he sure aint getting his deserved recognition in the rankings nor obviously on this forum. Ding-a-ling has also refused to respond to two direct question concerning "El Felino". Probably cause of high risk/low reward but actually Don King really likes Guillermo and should be able to make things happen.
emanuel_augustus
07-17-2007, 04:13 PM
Guillermo clearly beat Johnny Nelson for the WBO title and was robbed. By all accounts he beat Cunningham too.
He could still win a belt at Cruiser.
I cant blame him for going to heavy because he sure aint getting his deserved recognition in the rankings nor obviously on this forum. Ding-a-ling has also refused to respond to two direct question concerning "El Felino". Probably cause of high risk/low reward but actually Don King really likes Guillermo and should be able to make things happen.
I tell you what, get a contract between him and I for a title fight eliminator on showtime or hbo and you will be amazed at how fast I'll sign.
Btw when he fought kelvin davis, davis suffered a torn left bicep and couldn't use his arm, albeit jones did stun him good in the final seconds of the 3rd round.:deal
jyuza
07-17-2007, 04:22 PM
Hmmm Jones is probably the most over rated fighter at cruiser in my opinion.
He has no style at all, hitting and swinging without thinking and his punches are quite light for a 200er (well he is originally from welterweight I think).
I am not nut hugging or sh*t but Ding would have no problem against him (in my opinion) and probably even KO him.
This fight will never take place though but personally I just don't care, Ding should just move up to the next step by fighting a champ or a good contender and Jones would be a waste of time.
Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 04:34 PM
I tell you what, get a contract between him and I for a title fight eliminator on showtime or hbo and you will be amazed at how fast I'll sign.
Btw when he fought kelvin davis, davis suffered a torn left bicep and couldn't use his arm, albeit jones did stun him good in the final seconds of the 3rd round.:deal
You'll take this guy out before the 5th, which is the usual routine. He is not as good as Nwodo in my opinion, you can find him and put him away earlier.
Get that cardio in though Ding!:deal
emanuel_augustus
07-17-2007, 04:57 PM
Hmmm Jones is probably the most over rated fighter at cruiser in my opinion.
He has no style at all, hitting and swinging without thinking and his punches are quite light for a 200er (well he is originally from welterweight I think).
I am not nut hugging or sh*t but Ding would have no problem against him (in my opinion) and probably even KO him.
This fight will never take place though but personally I just don't care, Ding should just move up to the next step by fighting a champ or a good contender and Jones would be a waste of time.
Wrong. He throws a lot of punches from all angles, moves well, and has power with either hand. He beat Braithwaite, Davis, and actually beat Nelson and Cunningham. An entertaining fighter to watch.
emanuel_augustus
07-17-2007, 04:58 PM
You'll take this guy out before the 5th, which is the usual routine. He is not as good as Nwodo in my opinion, you can find him and put him away earlier.
You guys apparently haven't seen Jones. Jones is clearly a big step above Nwodo.
maracho
07-17-2007, 05:00 PM
Hmmm Jones is probably the most over rated fighter at cruiser in my opinion.
He has no style at all, hitting and swinging without thinking and his punches are quite light for a 200er (well he is originally from welterweight I think).
I am not nut hugging or sh*t but Ding would have no problem against him (in my opinion) and probably even KO him.
This fight will never take place though but personally I just don't care, Ding should just move up to the next step by fighting a champ or a good contender and Jones would be a waste of time.
Most fans like sprit over technique and thats mainly why Ding and Mormeck are popular now so you are obviously just biased against the better boxer Jones for secret reasons.
Cunningham and Jones are two of the best technical boxers in the devision but great boxing skills aint the only thing that got them were they are or rather should be. Look where Braithwaite's superior boxing skills got him.
brooklyn1550
07-17-2007, 05:02 PM
Jones would be a very tough fight, but winnable.
Wrong. He throws a lot of punches from all angles, moves well, and has power with either hand. He beat Braithwaite, Davis, and actually beat Nelson and Cunningham. An entertaining fighter to watch.
:thumbsup
Most fans like sprit over technique and thats one reason why Ding and Mormeck are popular now so you are obviously just biased against the better boxer Jones for secret reasons.
Cunningham and Jones are two of the best technical boxers in the devision but great boxing skills aint the only thing that got them were they are. Look where Braithwaite's superior boxing skills got him.
I have seen a few of his fights and feel he is definitely among the top tier cruisers. One thing I do know is my strengths and weaknesses aswell as his, he is a great opponent for my strengths. He throws a ton of right hands. I'm not just a crude puncher, I'm a very good counter puncher. Also, he would have clearly beat steve had he not dropped his punch count so much.:deal
You guys apparently haven't seen Jones. Jones is clearly a big step above Nwodo.
Not power or stamina wise.:deal
Nwodo didn't throw as many punches as he usually does because he was leary of my counter punching ability. He actually called me on the phone last week and we talked about our fight.:bbb
maracho
07-17-2007, 05:17 PM
I tell you what, get a contract between him and I for a title fight eliminator on showtime or hbo and you will be amazed at how fast I'll sign.
Btw when he fought kelvin davis, davis suffered a torn left bicep and couldn't use his arm, albeit jones did stun him good in the final seconds of the 3rd round.:deal
That would be great and I believe what you say. The only thing us fans can do is keep complaining about the rankings but I would be calling Don King (Jone's promoter) or Cunningham's promoter. Your coming to these forums also shows a lot of courage and has worked well in my opinion.
Nawfal
07-17-2007, 05:26 PM
i think guillermo jones wins this
too good a boxer for ding
emanuel_augustus
07-17-2007, 05:35 PM
Not power or stamina wise.
Nwodo didn't throw as many punches as he usually does because he was leary of my counter punching ability. He actually called me on the phone last week and we talked about our fight.
Jones has superior stamina for sure and has more proven power than Nwodo against higher level opposition. Jones throws a ton of punches for a Cruiser, he seriously outworked Johnny Nelson and overwhelmed Braithwaite, who was still a top 5 guy at the time. He also buzzed and stopped Davis at at time when he was still a top contender.
That would be great and I believe what you say. The only thing us fans can do is keep complaining about the rankings but I would be calling Don King (Jone's promoter) or Cunningham's promoter. Your coming to these forums also shows a lot of courage and has worked well in my opinion.
Dino Duva is pushing extremely hard for the Cunningham fight right now. It partially depends on whether or not the Oleg/Peter fight comes off on the said date.
maracho
07-17-2007, 07:03 PM
Dino Duva is pushing extremely hard for the Cunningham fight right now. It partially depends on whether or not the Oleg/Peter fight comes off on the said date.
Cool! Cunningham may be the fastest most dangerous cruiser out there but you have the power and chin to win and all you need is the ability to put on constant overwelming pressure. I know you've heard this a hundred times but just in case I would go to any means to improve add the weapon of stamina including reading all available literature, consulting all available sports doctors and trainers, and eating right. There are tons of sites like this one [Only registered and activated users can see links] that I have not read yet but seems interesting. I just got some tea called yerba Mate thats has all the endurance qualities of tea and coffee yet is not supposed to give any tension (last thing you want with an experienced fighter). There are all kinds of tropical fruits and berries that are good to but I forget their names off hand. I have been hearing alot about pourridge. Just experiment and see what foods work . Varied and strenuos jumping excersises work both the lungs and legs.
Fitir
07-18-2007, 06:49 AM
Guillermo Jones is a very good boxer but I don't think he would have beaten the pre-Mormeck version of Braithwaite. Big Truck had proven his heart in his fights but he had lost much confidence : the first defeat is something in a boxing career (I imagine it's worse in a unification fight !). Jones is experienced and he had been Mormeck's sparring for Braithwaite : he knew exactly what he had to do. He was the worst possible opponent for a come back fight and the end of the fight was a bit strange...
Bummy Davis
07-18-2007, 07:50 AM
Ding is on a good streak, needs a title fight, Jones is good, but inactive, Ding has a exciting style and would bring it to the crusiers,Haye is not known in the U.S. nor Enzo but bring on Mormeck or make Jones fight for a title
jyuza
07-18-2007, 08:46 AM
Most fans like sprit over technique and thats mainly why Ding and Mormeck are popular now so you are obviously just biased against the better boxer Jones for secret reasons.
Cunningham and Jones are two of the best technical boxers in the devision but great boxing skills aint the only thing that got them were they are or rather should be. Look where Braithwaite's superior boxing skills got him.
Sorry I watched his fight against Braithwaite and I wasn't surprised at all.
Plus, the poor man seemed to have some stamina issues. His win over Wayne was a prematured stoppage and since he got a terrible cramp right after the end of the 4th round, I have no doubt Braithwaite would have beaten him if the ref let the fight continue.
emanuel_augustus
07-18-2007, 10:30 AM
Sorry I watched his fight against Braithwaite and I wasn't surprised at all.
Plus, the poor man seemed to have some stamina issues. His win over Wayne was a prematured stoppage and since he got a terrible cramp right after the end of the 4th round, I have no doubt Braithwaite would have beaten him if the ref let the fight continue.
Cramps have nothing to do with stamina issues. Jones at 200 pounds has ability to throw a large volume of punches over the distance. He did it against Tim Williamson in searing heat, badly outworked Sione Asipelli, Johnny Nelson, and even Braithwaite despite the cramping issues.
Jones may be too old now and he's been inactive, but he's a very underrated fighter--awkward, hard to get inside on, throws punches at odd angles, and has power in the right hand. Noone has ever convincingly beaten the guy.
Cool! Cunningham may be the fastest most dangerous cruiser out there but you have the power and chin to win and all you need is the ability to put on constant overwelming pressure. I know you've heard this a hundred times but just in case I would go to any means to improve add the weapon of stamina including reading all available literature, consulting all available sports doctors and trainers, and eating right. There are tons of sites like this one [Only registered and activated users can see links] that I have not read yet but seems interesting. I just got some tea called yerba Mate thats has all the endurance qualities of tea and coffee yet is not supposed to give any tension (last thing you want with an experienced fighter). There are all kinds of tropical fruits and berries that are good to but I forget their names off hand. I have been hearing alot about pourridge. Just experiment and see what foods work . Varied and strenuos jumping excersises work both the lungs and legs.
I was speaking with a strength and conditioning trainer and he mentioned some of the same things. Thanks alot for your help. For my next fights, I will finally have real training camps which include some much needed top level sparring as well.:thumbsup
Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 05:30 PM
Ding -
I rate Guillermo Jones quite well, he's awkward and can fight in and out and has shown a sturdy jaw so far. What round do you think you'd get him in?:D
Also, who do you have for Wayne vs. Enzo this weekend? I'm taking Wayne.
Ding -
I rate Guillermo Jones quite well, he's awkward and can fight in and out and has shown a sturdy jaw so far. What round do you think you'd get him in?:D
Also, who do you have for Wayne vs. Enzo this weekend? I'm taking Wayne.
I think this is an extremely exciting fight based on their styles and flaws, and pretty suprised it hasn't been hyped up more.
scurlaruntings
07-18-2007, 06:16 PM
Guillermo clearly beat Johnny Nelson for the WBO title and was robbed. By all accounts he beat Cunningham too.
He could still win a belt at Cruiser.Clear? Did you even see the fight? It was a shocking mess.One of the worst fights iv ever seen.Jones work was hardly much better and yes Nelson did get a home town draw but the there was no way he beat him clearly.The fight stunk.
scurlaruntings
07-18-2007, 06:17 PM
I think this is an extremely exciting fight based on their styles and flaws, and pretty suprised it hasn't been hyped up more.I hear you have a computer firm of some sort? Whats it Ding enterprises or something like that? Maybe we could hook up.Im around your size and could do with some good sparring and could fix your PC`s aswell!:lol:
maracho
07-18-2007, 11:09 PM
I was speaking with a strength and conditioning trainer and he mentioned some of the same things. Thanks alot for your help. For my next fights, I will finally have real training camps which include some much needed top level sparring as well.:thumbsup
Your welcome:good
teetop
07-18-2007, 11:43 PM
I tell you what, get a contract between him and I for a title fight eliminator on showtime or hbo and you will be amazed at how fast I'll sign.
Btw when he fought kelvin davis, davis suffered a torn left bicep and couldn't use his arm, albeit jones did stun him good in the final seconds of the 3rd round.:deal
Ding! Your back. Welcome. No other recognized world class fighter
comes to chat with us common folk. So thanks for hangin' out. Just
think we have a future world champ hangin' out with us shootin' the
shit like jesus did the disciples.
By the buy, great highlight reel shite a few weeks back. That was some
scary stuff man. I wanna see you in with the winner of mormeck/haye.
Laters.
teetop
07-18-2007, 11:45 PM
Wrong. He throws a lot of punches from all angles, moves well, and has power with either hand. He beat Braithwaite, Davis, and actually beat Nelson and Cunningham. An entertaining fighter to watch.
He didn't beat cunningham. the decision was just.
Steve C and Malik scott both beat ding a ling i do like to watch him but i don't think he has the stamina and boxing skills needed to beat the elite..
aliwasthegreatest
07-19-2007, 12:01 AM
Ding you got this shit homie. make ESB proud. you know we all wanna hear a shout out to ESB on HBO or SHO lol
Steve C and Malik scott both beat ding a ling i do like to watch him but i don't think he has the stamina and boxing skills needed to beat the elite..
I know who you are, whats up man? Tough break in the last one, but I know you'll get back. I dont believe i'll ever be fighting malik scott. I hope steve c is as confident as you are because the fight is under negotiations and if it dont come off, you know why?? :hey
Why not have an easy defence when his mandatory isn't due until May 2008, Holla!! :smoke
Just out of curiosity ding, Do you still have a day job, or do you box full time now?
Yeah, I run my small company DNG Technologies>:thumbsup
Just for the record, You don't look like someone who runs a technology company.
:dunnowha:
Its 2:45 a.m. on the east coast, why on earth are you skill awake
poker tourney. but now, goodnight :tired
I know who you are, whats up man? Tough break in the last one, but I know you'll get back. I dont believe i'll ever be fighting malik scott. I hope steve c is as confident as you are because the fight is under negotiations and if it dont come off, you know why?? :hey
Why not have an easy defence when his mandatory isn't due until May 2008, Holla!! :smoke
Thats true honestly i think you have the skills if the stamina thing is in order i think you can do it i do enjoy watching you you have a punchers chance... always fun to watch
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