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Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 06:25 PM
The "Blocky prediction" is that Calzaghe butchers Kessler and grinds him down to a late stoppage after a beautiful, brutal one sided affair.

I take it as my cemented pick.

Who else is taking it? Come on JC fans, we've got one more career defining performance for our guy and it's going to be phenominal, don't submit to the will of evil people like DanePugilist, Decebal and Deram who say otherwise.

Calzaghe by a supernatural, murderous display.

:deal

RAMPAGE0017
07-17-2007, 06:26 PM
I think Calzaghe will take it, but I'm just not sure about seeing him stop Kessler.

Pimp C
07-17-2007, 06:27 PM
Calzaghe by UD he's too much for Kessler:deal

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 06:28 PM
I think he stops Kessler as well. This is one of few times I agree with Blocky.

:good :good

duran77
07-17-2007, 06:28 PM
Given his hand problems I am no so sure about the stoppage either, but what is up with China Hand Joe? He says Kessler will stop Calzaghe. I never expected that from him. I think JC by UD handily

psychopath
07-17-2007, 06:38 PM
The "Blocky prediction" is that Calzaghe butchers Kessler and grinds him down to a late stoppage after a beautiful, brutal one sided affair.

I take it as my cemented pick.

Who else is taking it? Come on JC fans, we've got one more career defining performance for our guy and it's going to be phenominal, don't submit to the will of evil people like DanePugilist, Decebal and Deram who say otherwise.

Calzaghe by a supernatural, murderous display.

:deal

Supernatural? Murderous? That's way overboard.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm looking at this as 60/40 fight for Calzaghe and it's not going to be easy. It's going to be very competitive and I'm not discounting an upset . . . in fact I'll be rooting for one. :yep :hey

Zakman
07-17-2007, 06:42 PM
Count me in - I've been saying that Calzaghe does a "Lacy" on him since they've been talking about this fight. Calzaghe by late TKO in a MUCH more one-sided fight than people expect.

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 06:52 PM
Count me in - I've been saying that Calzaghe does a "Lacy" on him since they've been talking about this fight. Calzaghe by late TKO in a MUCH more one-sided fight than people expect.

Excellent, the 2005/2006 fight prediction king joins in on the Blocky prediction.

Drew101
07-17-2007, 06:58 PM
If Calzaghe wins (and I don't think he will), it will be a closely contested fight, with Calzaghe's greater volume carrying the decision. I would be utterly shocked if he were able to pull a "Lacy" on a fighter who is considerably more skilled, and has many more facets to his game.

Personally, I think Kessler stops JC late in the fight.

Decebal
07-17-2007, 07:03 PM
but what is up with China Hand Joe? He says Kessler will stop Calzaghe. I never expected that from him.

Mind games, manipulation and win-win strategising; he hopes that Joe will win so that he can say it was a past-his-second-prime Joe that did it. If he loses...well, he would not have lost had he been at least past-his-first-prime.

But, undoubtedly, deep down, there grows a grain of doubt. China Joe is no fool.

Decebal
07-17-2007, 07:05 PM
Count me in - I've been saying that Calzaghe does a "Lacy" on him since they've been talking about this fight. Calzaghe by late TKO in a MUCH more one-sided fight than people expect.

But for that to happen, Calzaghe would have to be better than he was against Lacy, right? Because Kessler is not on par with Lacy...Also, this assumes that Kessler will not have improved for the fight? Who can improve more of the two? I go with the younger man.

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 07:11 PM
But for that to happen, Calzaghe would have to be better than he was against Lacy, right? Because Kessler is not on par with Lacy...Also, this assumes that Kessler will not have improved for the fight? Who can improve more of the two? I go with the younger man.

Incorrect. Kessler is highly tentative when pressured/swarmed and against speed and high volume workrate, this will make him more and more tenative as the fight goes along and it will give Calzaghe more oppurtunities to land his body of work on a docile Kessler who can't take the heat.

Kessler is a better fighter than Lacy, but he's at a tremendous stylistic difficulty.

All of this is explained well in the Blocky prediction.

Zakman
07-17-2007, 07:13 PM
But for that to happen, Calzaghe would have to be better than he was against Lacy, right? Because Kessler is not on par with Lacy...Also, this assumes that Kessler will not have improved for the fight? Who can improve more of the two? I go with the younger man.

All things being equal, normally I WOULD go with the younger guy. But I'm just not convinced that Kessler is at Calzaghe's level. He may not be as unproven as Lacy was, but he sure is compared to Calzaghe. My take is it's too much of a step up for him, just like it was for Lacy.

BigReg
07-17-2007, 07:14 PM
I'm definately going with Kessler. I think people are sleeping on Kessler. He's alot more talented than people give him credit. I have no idea why people are comparing him to Lacy, they have two entirely different styles. J.C has been living off that Lacy win for too long. Kessler 116-112.

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 07:16 PM
All things being equal, normally I WOULD go with the younger guy. But I'm just not convinced that Kessler is at Calzaghe's level. He may not be as unproven as Lacy was, but he sure is compared to Calzaghe. My take is it's too much of a step up for him, just like it was for Lacy.

Calzaghe at 35 is still at 80%, very fresh for 35. People going off of Bika and Manfredo have to remember Salem and Ashira as reasoning on why Lacy would "destroy" Calzaghe.

Decebal
07-17-2007, 07:18 PM
Incorrect. Kessler is highly tentative when pressured/swarmed and against speed and high volume workrate, this will make him more and more tenative as the fight goes along and it will give Calzaghe more oppurtunities to land his body of work on a docile Kessler who can't take the heat.

Kessler is a better fighter than Lacy, but he's at a tremendous stylistic difficulty.

All of this is explained well in the Blocky prediction.

You mean that thread in which Blocky writes what Kessler would have to do to win, only to say that he cannot see it happening? Is there a link?

It's a good analysis, IF Joe can carry out his gameplan. If Kessler plans to let Joe do his thing, he will lose; might as well stay at home. Kessler needs to frustrate Joe to stop him from daring to swarm him in the usual way and to impose his will on the fight and dominate Joe. It's the only way, I think.

Max Molyneux
07-17-2007, 07:21 PM
I agree with Blocky.

Decebal
07-17-2007, 07:22 PM
don't submit to the will of evil people like DanePugilist, Decebal and Deram who say otherwise.



The Deuce's Dozen, please!:lol:

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 07:23 PM
The point is that Kessler cannot do that like Reid could. Reid at his peak was like an immovable prick with a cast iron chin, this is not the same for Kessler, whom cannot fight well out of his comfort zone against speed, swarming and workrate.

Calzaghe's footspeed will be a shock to Kessler and will tell the story of the fight.

Kessler fans use Reid as an example of landing right hands that stopped Calzaghe in his tracks, but Reid is a different fighter than Kessler all together.

A tentative fighter never does well against a lightning fast swarmer, why is this any different?

So in knowing that it's highly unlikely that Kessler can stop the swarming, which will make him docile from the attack and therefore vulnerable to the long brutalisation that he will recieve as Calzaghe keeps a frantic pace over a cautious, retreating man... then you've got it pinned Decebal, he may as well stay home.

Supernatural brutality, war Calzaghe!:deal

Max Molyneux
07-17-2007, 07:23 PM
How Is Kessler's chin?

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 07:25 PM
The Deuce's Dozen, please!:lol:

But that damn DanePug is the most evil of them all, he created the spambot Deram, which is programmed to seek and destroy Calzaghe threads.

Then he just acts like a reasonable sort but has a volatile plan in the works.

Luckily, China hand Joe and I created Blocky to even the odds.:happy

Decebal
07-17-2007, 07:27 PM
So in knowing that it's highly unlikely that Kessler can stop the swarming, which will make him docile from the attack and therefore vulnerable to the long brutalisation that he will recieve as Calzaghe keeps a frantic pace over a cautious, retreating man... then you've got it pinned Decebal, he may as well stay home.

Supernatural brutality, war Calzaghe!:deal

I notice you're starting to miss the Poetry Pictorial:

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Max Molyneux
07-17-2007, 07:27 PM
Luckily, China hand Joe and I created Blocky to even the odds.

And you never told me!

PeterNielsen70
07-17-2007, 07:28 PM
Don’t you think that it is very plausible that a guy, who has never really been tested in a fight, will have an extra gear when/if really being forced to show all that he is capable of doing? I’m talking of Kessler of course. Be prepared for a world class boxing demonstration on Nov. 3rd.:scaredas: :scaredas: :scaredas: If I was hoping for old man Joe.;)

Watch “Weekly boxing talk show” on Youtube. From 2:55 onwards the JC-Kessler fight is mentioned, by the way:

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Decebal
07-17-2007, 07:29 PM
But that damn DanePug is the most evil of them all, he created the spambot Deram, which is programmed to seek and destroy Calzaghe threads.

Then he just acts like a reasonable sort but has a volatile plan in the works.

Luckily, China hand Joe and I created Blocky to even the odds.:happy

:lol: you're still arguing about whether to give your Blockbot a beer belly or not, whereas we've got Deram down to a T

Nemo
07-17-2007, 07:32 PM
Kessler is the man to beat Calzaghe. Get ready for a major upset cause Joe is going down. :yep
I expect the fight to be close but the Viking will put too much hurt on Joe unless joe hurts himself first. :lol: Kessler by KO/TKO
I do want to say that I give full credit to Joe and his team for taking this very risky fight, especially that he plans to go to 175 afterwards. He has a lot to lose and if he does lose, unfortunately theres not much left for him.

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 07:32 PM
:lol: you're still arguing about whether to give your Blockbot a beer belly or a six-pack, though, whereas we've got Deram down to a T

We all know the Blockbot has perfect abs mate. He was designed muscled on purpose, and to dish out high levels of raging testosterone filled insults.:lol:

Deram has no personality, DanePug forgot to program one in.

You have to give CHJ and I credit for programming Blocky with a colourful persona.:lol:

Decebal
07-17-2007, 07:40 PM
You have to give CHJ and I credit for programming Blocky with a colourful persona.:lol:

Blocky is China Joe's alter ego, that's for sure! And the abs must come from you! Deram is meant not so much to spit and spatter as to railroad you relentlessly into giving up.

Decebal
07-17-2007, 07:42 PM
Kessler is the man to beat Calzaghe. Get ready for a major upset cause Joe is going down. :yep
I expect the fight to be close but the Viking will put too much hurt on Joe unless joe hurts himself first. :lol: Kessler by KO/TKO
I do want to say that I give full credit to Joe and his team for taking this very risky fight, especially that he plans to go to 175 afterwards. He has a lot to lose and if he does lose, unfortunately theres not much left for him.

Welcome back, Nemo, you were missed!:good

Axe
07-17-2007, 07:44 PM
Calzaghe by a supernatural, murderous display.

:deal

This thread may very well bite you in the ass and become a Kessler-nuthugger stomping ground in 3 months time. :yep

Kessler-Calzaghe is a rather close fight and you're prediction is going to be way off the mark, imo.

Axe
07-17-2007, 07:50 PM
We all know the Blockbot has perfect abs mate. He was designed muscled on purpose, and to dish out high levels of raging testosterone filled insults.:lol:

Deram has no personality, DanePug forgot to program one in.

You have to give CHJ and I credit for programming Blocky with a colourful persona.:lol:

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Good stuff! :D

China_hand_Joe
07-17-2007, 07:56 PM
There are two dozen Danish aliases leaving the forum in November thanks to their bets with Blocky

Decebal
07-17-2007, 08:00 PM
There are two dozen Danish aliases leaving the forum in November thanks to their bets with Blocky

At least I won't need to make up aliases for when Bute takes on Kessler for all the belts...

China_hand_Joe
07-17-2007, 08:06 PM
I remember Blocky mentioning an amature record something like 106-16-1 once, I actually believe him

Decebal
07-17-2007, 08:11 PM
I remember Blocky mentioning an amature record something like 106-16-1 once, I actually believe him

106-16-1 is the molecular ratio of carbon ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), nitrogen ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and phosphorus ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) in phytoplankton ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) (appear as green discolorations of the water)...either that, or they read the stats upside down in NZ.

China_hand_Joe
07-17-2007, 08:15 PM
Blocky seriously is an accomplished amature mate

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 08:16 PM
Blocky seriously is an accomplished amature mate

Blocky is a god.

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 08:17 PM
This thread may very well bite you in the ass and become a Kessler-nuthugger stomping ground in 3 months time. :yep

Kessler-Calzaghe is a rather close fight and you're prediction is going to be way off the mark, imo.

MY prediction?

You mean the Blocky prediction. Full credit goes to Da Block on this one.:nod

Decebal
07-17-2007, 08:19 PM
MY prediction?

You mean the Blocky prediction. Full credit goes to Da Block on this one.:nod

where is the thread where he made the prediction again?:huh

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 08:21 PM
where is the thread where he made the prediction again?:huh

Ever since he has joined ESB, he's made this prediction public. Find a thread on Calz-Kessler where Blocky doesn't claim that Calzaghe will trash him.

You can find it anywhere.

Decebal, when will you adopt the Blocky prediction?

Decebal
07-17-2007, 08:22 PM
Blocky seriously is an accomplished armature mate

A bit harsh...but caricature is about right!:good

Decebal
07-17-2007, 08:25 PM
Decebal, when will you adopt the Blocky prediction?

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Max Molyneux
07-17-2007, 08:36 PM
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Look what happened to Lacy when he called Joe a slapper.

Decebal
07-17-2007, 08:38 PM
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Look what happened to Lacy when he called Joe a slapper.


"I don't want to reveal my tactics, but I'll keep my distance as usual. I'm a more intelligent fighter than Calzaghe. "Lacy was too slow to take him on, but I know that I'm number one in the division and I'm going to kick his ass."

enough said!

DoumB
07-17-2007, 08:43 PM
Kessler will loose the early rounds to a busy calzag but after joe break his hands hes gonna take over a less active JC and maybe score a late TKO, Kessler is a lot more skilled then Jeff Lacy and is bigger, JC wont be able to tag him like he did with JL, this is going to be a real long night for joe I think

DoumB
07-17-2007, 08:46 PM
I remember Blocky mentioning an amature record something like 106-16-1 once, I actually believe him

just like his abs?:lol:

that guy is a complete joke

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 08:47 PM
Kessler will loose the early rounds to a busy calzag but after joe break his hands hes gonna take over a less active JC and maybe score a late TKO, Kessler is a lot more skilled then Jeff Lacy and is bigger, JC wont be able to tag him like he did with JL, this is going to be a real long night for joe I think

Kessler has no strength advantage over Calzaghe, the size means little on such a tentative fighter.

Max Molyneux
07-17-2007, 08:51 PM
[Only registered and activated users can see links]******.tv/drill/News/data/upimages/calzaghe_slayer.jpg

This would make a cool avatar.

DoumB
07-17-2007, 08:53 PM
Kessler has no strength advantage over Calzaghe, the size means little on such a tentative fighter.

u kidding right?

kessler is proly 10 times stronger then JC, its known that kessler is realy strong super midle

China_hand_Joe
07-17-2007, 08:53 PM
just like his abs?:lol:

that guy is a complete jokeBlocky is a gifted human being, I am 100% serious about that

DoumB
07-17-2007, 08:53 PM
[Only registered and activated users can see links]******.tv/drill/News/data/upimages/calzaghe_slayer.jpg

This would make a cool avatar.
:lol:

Decebal
07-17-2007, 08:54 PM
[Only registered and activated users can see links]******.tv/drill/News/data/upimages/calzaghe_slayer.jpg

This would make a cool avatar.

What a great pose! Well done, Max!

Decebal
07-17-2007, 08:54 PM
Blocky is a gifted human being, I am 100% serious about that

In what way?

Max Molyneux
07-17-2007, 08:55 PM
What a great pose! Well done, Max!

I wouldn't wear a Sentanta Sports hat.

Orishaman
07-17-2007, 08:55 PM
Calzaghe will win but it will not be a walk in the park

DoumB
07-17-2007, 08:55 PM
Blocky is a gifted human being, I am 100% serious about that

I am sure u are joe... I am sure:yep

Decebal
07-17-2007, 08:57 PM
I am sure u are joe... I am sure:yep

He is. China Joe!

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 08:58 PM
u kidding right?

kessler is proly 10 times stronger then JC, its known that kessler is realy strong super midle

No, I am not kidding. Save for Mundine's fragile mentality, he actually was a bit stronger than Kessler. Calzaghe is stronger than Mundine.

Don't be blind.

Decebal
07-17-2007, 08:58 PM
I wouldn't wear a Sentanta Sports hat.

...can no longer see it now, once it's in your avatar.

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 08:59 PM
He is. China Joe!

Does anyone give more satisfaction on this forum to you than China hand Joe?:lol:

DoumB
07-17-2007, 09:01 PM
No, I am not kidding. Save for Mundine's fragile mentality, he actually was a bit stronger than Kessler. Calzaghe is stronger than Mundine.

Don't be blind.

well I dont think ur serious man, Kessler is a realy strong fighter, his style simply doesnt show it,

Decebal
07-17-2007, 09:03 PM
Does anyone give more satisfaction on this forum to you than China hand Joe?:lol:

:lol: China Joe is pretty funny in a dead-pan sort of way and I am not the only one who appreciates his posts...but I have many favourites here!;)

China_hand_Joe
07-17-2007, 09:03 PM
In what way?His all round natural talent in everything - mental and physical - he has good genes

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 09:06 PM
well I dont think ur serious man, Kessler is a realy strong fighter, his style simply doesnt show it,

No, I am absolutley 100% serious. There is no strength advantage that Kessler has over Calzaghe. Lacy was limited, but very strong and Calzaghe threw him around like a ragdoll.

Kessler being bullied by Mundine even for a few rounds is telling that his strength is not a reflection of his size. Kessler's bread and butter are his boxing skills and ring generalship, I don't feel he's the most raw physically strong SMW.

Decebal
07-17-2007, 09:06 PM
His all round natural talent in everything - mental and physical - he has good genes

:roll: ...it was you who said Vicious Boxer would be World Champ one day, wasn't it...and that we would all regret having ever doubted him, right?

China_hand_Joe
07-17-2007, 09:08 PM
:roll: ...it was you who said Vicious Boxer would be World Champ one day, wasn't it...and that we would all regret having ever doubted him, right?When was I proven wrong on that

Decebal
07-17-2007, 09:09 PM
I am waiting to be proven wrong on that

Don't forget to bring your skates!

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Decebal
07-17-2007, 09:11 PM
Does anyone give more satisfaction on this forum to China hand Joe than Blocky?:lol:

I guess not!:conf

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 09:13 PM
I guess not!:bart

He'll grow up.

Decebal
07-17-2007, 09:15 PM
He'll grow up.

Do you mean to say he'll become even MORE enlightened?!:scaredas:

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 09:17 PM
Do you mean to say he'll become even MORE enlightened?!:scaredas:

Ja, glaube.

El Bombasto
07-17-2007, 09:18 PM
Calzaghe takes it, although Kessler will win quite a few early rounds before JC wears him down. Forget about the KO though

Decebal
07-17-2007, 09:22 PM
Ja, glaube.

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China Joe??

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 09:24 PM
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China Joe??

I figured China hand Joe even was able to breath fire, I doubt this is an adequate model.:think

Decebal
07-17-2007, 09:28 PM
I figured China hand Joe even was able to breath fire, I doubt this is an adequate model.:think

His idolatry of Blocky is fiery, you're right.

sjc
07-17-2007, 09:29 PM
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Look what happened to Lacy when he called Joe a slapper.
Mikkel... :patsch

Kessler has some successful rounds early and mid, catching Calzaghe coming in and from range and seeming to have the upper hand in spells. By round 8 Joe's workrate starts to tell on the Dane and the tide starts to turn gradually from a pretty even contest to an increasingly more one sided one.

Calzaghe swarms to a TKO11

...provided his hands hold up. If he busts one before round 7, Kessler wins a reasonable to tight UD and Joe should retire. If he should bust a hand after round 7, I'll say a draw... or MD/SD Kessler.

Hope someones gonna be resurecting this thread on Nov 4th.

satyriion
07-18-2007, 05:52 AM
:? No, I am absolutley 100% serious. There is no strength advantage that Kessler has over Calzaghe. Lacy was limited, but very strong and Calzaghe threw him around like a ragdoll.

Kessler being bullied by Mundine even for a few rounds is telling that his strength is not a reflection of his size. Kessler's bread and butter are his boxing skills and ring generalship, I don't feel he's the most raw physically strong SMW.



So you are still convinced that Bika is the big liar on Palle's payroll ?

Bika's is of the very clear observation that Kessler is way stronger than Calzaghe. Basically he is the only person to talk with authority about that matter. Ha fought JC for 12 and Kessler for 60. I think his body knows the facts.

Maybe skils and generalship is prominent features of Kessler talent, but power obviously is coming close.

I have not seen the 1/2 odds, but I have see the percetages saying 58/42 for JC. If the bookies consider him that much better than Kessler then I am surprised that he is not leading more, considering hometurf with 60.000 + fanatic supporters. I would weigh that a lot more than 10% of the equation.

Anyway, Joe may be the first to put so much pressure on Kessler that he really has to fight for it, with his life. That will be first time for Mikkel, but somehow I think he appreciates the opportunity to let himself go 100%.

I am not a "writer" like Blocky. But somehow my predictions about the fight has been way better than Blockys pathetic prediction of no contes. The fight would never be on. Right Blocky. Joe had no incentive and it was a lose/lose configuration for Joe. I agree with the lose/lose for Joe but from another point of view.

Blocky the "fight analyst" has no objectivity in this matter. But his deductions sucks. For months he wrote a lot of shit claiming this fight wouldent do shit for Joe. Listen to Joe now. He has no doubt Kessler is the best doing the most for his legacy. Calzaghes deduction is in complete opposition to Blocky. Ok he needs to sell the match.

Another thing. How come ****** expect 60.000 or more if this was a insignificant fight. They UK audience knew way less about Kessler than the US audience did. But it is selling real fast this time. The contract isent even signed yet.

I think a lot of americans tend to favour Joe because he humiliated Lacy. Making Joe anything but a boxing god would denigrate Lacy completely and make him look worse than ever.

Lacy could have boxed Kessler just as easy as Joe back then. Kessler. Anybody remember the open letter Kessler wrote to Lacy. Kessler was frustrated that Joe wouldent fight him. But Lacy preferred Joe in the end. It could have been monet or it could have been that he considred his chances better against Joe than against Kessler. I think he was spot on that prediction.

My conclusion so far is that all the previous stated reasons for Joe not meeting Kessler, advocated by blocky et al. has been clarly disproved by ****** and Joe himself. That what i would call shitty predictions made by a biased mind.

To Joe this is the biggest and most important match ever. He says so himself. Kessler is his most dangerous opponent ever.

I am looking forward to Blocky packing his shit and crawl humiliated back down his shithole never to surface on ESB anymore. The guy is arrogant and condescending and htere is no more pleasurable thing in the world than knowing how he has to suffer utter humiliation and being the new laughing stock on ESB.

I think Joe has paved the road for an honourable defeat against someone he considers a clear #2. And the best he has met. It will not be a disgrace to loose to a younger and stronger guy.

It will be a disgrace to have been an "analyst" with superior knowledge and be sooo wrong. God I cant wait.......

China_hand_Joe
07-18-2007, 06:30 AM
Bika also said some guy named Sakio would be too good for Calzaghe beat but I do actually entirely agree with him this time, Kessler is special

achillesthegreat
07-18-2007, 07:59 AM
If we don't all contribute to The Kessler Health Fund then we are all part of pre-meditated murder.

ChuckYoungblood
07-18-2007, 08:25 AM
Yada yada Blocky yada yada Kessler yada yada jab ineffective yada yada too stiff and orthodox yada yada Joe yada yada lightning fast yada yada supernatural yada yada dominate yada yada.

Because ppl repeat something again and again doesn't make it bulletproof. But this fight should make for some interesting avatar-betting or forum-absence-bets: Perhaps Joe will win, but Kessler won't be ko'ed, and it will be pretty even. Go Kessler!

Brighton bomber
07-18-2007, 08:40 AM
This isn't going to be like Calzaghe/Lacy. Kessler is a very good fighter and his right hand will definately be a factor in the fight as Calzaghe has always been susceptible to straight right. I expect to see Kessler be out worked throughtout but have sucess early with the right hand. Calzaghe's chin takes everything Kessler can throw at him and he regularly finds a way past Kesslers jab. Kesslers lack of infighting skills is what will cost him the fight. From range Kessler has the edge but Calzaghe is faster and is able to get inside and dominate in mid to close range. Calzaghe by UD or even a late TKO if his hands hold up.

stiflers mum
07-18-2007, 09:42 AM
blocky speaks the truth :deal
calzaghe will spank kesslers arse into row 6, and all of denmark wont be able to stand him even more. :deal

PeterNielsen70
07-18-2007, 10:09 AM
Michael Marley reads these forums, being the American advisor to Kessler and his team, I do wonder if some of the things get back to him from this forum - I know for a fact Kessler saw the articles I wrote for ESB (dispute it, do me proud)

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lol – Yes he saw it, and shook his head. I think the Kessler team pays very much attention on what Michael Marley and your analysis bring forward, as they obviously can’t think for themselves, and doesn’t know anything about boxing. I think Kessler really appreciates that you now have made the conclusion that he is good form the distance. It has been a puzzle for Kessler and his team for years, how he was capable of winning fights – but now they know.

And here is a much simpler analysis on what will happen on Nov. 3rd. It turns out that Kessler simply both is a better boxer and stronger fighter. Kessler UD (117-113)*3 or late TKO.

Decebal
07-18-2007, 10:25 AM
Yada yada Blocky yada yada Kessler yada yada jab ineffective yada yada too stiff and orthodox yada yada Joe yada yada lightning fast yada yada supernatural yada yada dominate yada yada.

Because ppl repeat something again and again doesn't make it bulletproof. But this fight should make for some interesting avatar-betting or forum-absence-bets: Perhaps Joe will win, but Kessler won't be ko'ed, and it will be pretty even. Go Kessler!

:lol: You should start a yada yada thread. As long as you call it the Calzaghe Kessler Yada Yada Thread, people will flock like moths around a bulb.

Decebal
07-18-2007, 10:33 AM
Michael Marley reads these forums, being the American advisor to Kessler and his team, I do wonder if some of the things get back to him from this forum - I know for a fact Kessler saw the articles I wrote for ESB (dispute it, do me proud)



As you very well know, Blocky, I was the one responsible for convincing Joe that he needed to redeem himself and his legacy by arranging to fight Kessler. Had it not been for me and my various posts, YOU would be looking forward to Calzaghe v. Manfredo II. But not ONE word of thanks from you...no appreciation...no respect.:verysad

Laydown
07-18-2007, 10:55 AM
Kessler talking distance, which is obviously key for him as noted by my "How Kessler could win"

wo[Only registered and activated users can see links] Kessler has noted that from your post...:patsch :nut :nut

Calzaghe's been in the gym working with Enzo Mac throughout this entire negotiation process so his health is going to be tip top, his hand injury wasn't as serious as was made out (he wanted this fight in July, remember?)





You're still a liaer - Dickhead

Cut from Joe's homepage dated 27/4/2007:
“I’m very pleased with the results of the x-ray and the doctor’s diagnosis. The pain and swelling should disappear over the next four weeks and then I can begin light training. A fight in July is completely ruled out however I am very much looking forward to a big showdown in September”. “I’m very pleased with the results of the x-ray and the doctor’s diagnosis. The pain and swelling should disappear over the next four weeks and then I can begin light training. A fight in July is completely ruled out however I am very much looking forward to a big showdown in September”.

king-mal
07-18-2007, 10:59 AM
Blocky,Do you suffer from xenophobia? I think you do!!

Do you know how retarded you look and sound with the things you say?! Your words of wisdom with how mikkel kessler should box joe calzaghe is probably the most childish thing i have read in the history of boxing forums.

In case you hadn't noticed without your glasses on kessler is unbeaten in 39 fights and has never looked like getting beaten,What makes you think he needs advice by a little turd like you?

The way you give your analysis on this fight is like you are playing your playstaion with your school friends in your bedroom.

There has been hundreds if not thousands of fights over the years that looked as though one particular fighter didn't stand a chance in hell because on paper it looked like he didn't have the necessary abilty to do so only to see the unthinkable happen.

Since when has it became a crime to get behind a fighter from your country??

Your abuse for anybody backing kessler to win is worse then a couple of school kids arguing in the playground over who is the better superhero?Batman or superman.

Your idea of repeating the same garbage and hate that comes out of your filthy little mouth needs to stop.

There are alot of supporters on both sides who have opinions on who will win and how the outcome will pan out and everyone on here debate the points then move on.But you resort to kids tactics by name calling and gutter trash tactics from the comfort of your own home.

if you want to be taken seriously by the adults on here you first need to show some respect and whilst your at it,,Go and see a psychiatrist to help you with your hate of danish people and jealousy of kessler.

I would have thought you would be over the fact that your missus loves the viking warrior mikkel kessler and danes in general.

My apologies if your offended with your own treatment.

Say hello to uncle franky for me now wont ya:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 05:12 PM
If we don't all contribute to The Kessler Health Fund then we are all part of pre-meditated murder.

:yep :yep

It's so sad that it comes down to such things.

Astola
07-18-2007, 05:13 PM
Great thread! A new way to discuss the fight process...

Anyway . I still feel very sure that the fight will be a classic considering the Inside vs outside aspect.

Both fighters are superior in what they do and therefore we have a megafight coming up. I dont care shit about Blocky's statements about Kesslers Jab (or the statement that Joe is capable of winning from the outside:patsch ) but I know that come fightnight - this fight is a fuckin' coin toss....

Although its close I think that Joe will loose this one. Kessler is by fuckin space ages leagues above any fighter Joe has faced. Prime Lacy, Eubank, Reid, Mitchell would loose to todays Kessler.

Then theres the southpaw vs orthodox discussion:rofl

Some people really beleive that an orthodox fighter always looses to a southpaw because his jab wont work or something else... This statement is allright considering that southpaws may have a 60/40 advantage to begin with. But its fuckin bullshit analyzing this matchup.

Both fighters adapt perfect etc...


Kessler by tko round 11 is my prediction. In a close fight with a lot of trading.

Decebal
07-18-2007, 05:18 PM
I would have thought you would be over the fact that your missus loves the viking warrior mikkel kessler and danes in general.



:lol: really, why does Blocky hate the lovely Danes??

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 05:20 PM
Great thread! A new way to discuss the fight process...

Anyway . I still feel very sure that the fight will be a classic considering the Inside vs outside aspect.

Both fighters are superior in what they do and therefore we have a megafight coming up. I dont care shit about Blocky's statements about Kesslers Jab (or the statement that Joe is capable of winning from the outside:patsch ) but I know that come fightnight - this fight is a fuckin' coin toss....

Although its close I think that Joe will loose this one. Kessler is by fuckin space ages leagues above any fighter Joe has faced. Prime Lacy, Eubank, Reid, Mitchell would loose to todays Kessler.

Then theres the southpaw vs orthodox discussion:rofl

Some people really beleive that an orthodox fighter always looses to a southpaw because his jab wont work or something else... This statement is allright considering that southpaws may have a 60/40 advantage to begin with. But its fuckin bullshit analyzing this matchup.

Both fighters adapt perfect etc...


Kessler by tko round 11 is my prediction. In a close fight with a lot of trading.

Exactly! I'm sick of it, so I just went to the darkside and took ol' Blocky's prediction as my own.

How about that wager?:hey

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 05:21 PM
:lol: really, why does Blocky hate the lovely Danes??

Blocky is with multiple women at once, the design was to charm x3.:yep

Astola
07-18-2007, 05:23 PM
Exactly! I'm sick of it, so I just went to the darkside and took ol' Blocky's prediction as my own.

How about that wager?:hey

Im fuckin on, sir!

I am very sure that Kessler will win the fight. But I have to admit that Id like to know who the judges will be + whos the ref. etc. before we settle it :good

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 05:25 PM
Im fuckin on, sir!

I am very sure that Kessler will win the fight. But I have to admit that Id like to know who the judges will be + whos the ref. etc. before we settle it :good

Fair call.

I almost hope that Hopkins doesn't dominate Winky this weekend, because if he does that'll probably send my head into outerspace and I'll make a crazy bet!:lol:

I've gotten everything under the sun spot on lately....:yep

Astola
07-18-2007, 05:31 PM
Fair call.

I almost hope that Hopkins doesn't dominate Winky this weekend, because if he does that'll probably send my head into outerspace and I'll make a crazy bet!:lol:

I've gotten everything under the sun spot on lately....:yep

Good for you - especially since its what brings butter on the table....?

Have too admit that I dont have fuckin clue about Hops vs. Winky....

The fight is strangely lost and forgotten in my mind? Kinda like "seen it before - theyre old and I want to see Cotto/Mosley/PBF instead..."

Decebal
07-18-2007, 05:31 PM
Fair call.

I almost hope that Hopkins doesn't dominate Winky this weekend, because if he does that'll probably send my head into outerspace and I'll make a crazy bet!:lol:

I've gotten everything under the sun spot on lately....:yep

how much are you puting on BHop, Amsterdam, mate?

Decebal
07-18-2007, 05:34 PM
Blocky is with multiple women at once, the design was to charm x3.:yep

Yes, with Lady Palm and her six daughters - Blocky's well endowed!

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 05:37 PM
Good for you - especially since its what brings butter on the table....?

Have too admit that I dont have fuckin clue about Hops vs. Winky....

The fight is strangely lost and forgotten in my mind? Kinda like "seen it before - theyre old and I want to see Cotto/Mosley/PBF instead..."

Yes, that's the reason I do it every weekend, it's part of my income... and I'm not a well off person just yet.

Go Hops!:bbb

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 05:37 PM
how much are you puting on BHop, Amsterdam, mate?

PM'd.

Astola
07-18-2007, 05:43 PM
Yes, that's the reason I do it every weekend, it's part of my income... and I'm not a well off person just yet.

Go Hops!:bbb

Dont bet too much on Joe vs. Kessler. This fight is a bad bookie bet no matter what. Anything is likely to happen....

But a symbolic money bet between two dudes is allright. Just dont go bet the house, wife, dog, pension or anything...:good

Decebal
07-18-2007, 05:46 PM
Dont bet too much on Joe vs. Kessler. This fight is a bad bookie bet no matter what. Anything is likely to happen....

But a symbolic money bet between two dudes is allright. Just dont go bet the house, wife, dog, pension or anything...:good

Just out of interest, has a bet involving a family member ever been legally enforced?

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 05:47 PM
Dont bet too much on Joe vs. Kessler. This fight is a bad bookie bet no matter what. Anything is likely to happen....

But a symbolic money bet between two dudes is allright. Just dont go bet the house, wife, dog, pension or anything...:good

Could never bet my girlfriend, she's got no price.:p

But Astola, I heard you have a hell of a nice looking lady friend, are you a real betting man?:yep

If I win, Blockbot gets her. *shiver*

Astola
07-18-2007, 05:50 PM
Just out of interest, has a bet involving a family member ever been legally enforced?

:lol: Hmm dont know but in America it might be the case...:D

Astola
07-18-2007, 05:54 PM
Could never bet my girlfriend, she's got no price.:p

But Astola, I heard you have a hell of a nice looking lady friend, are you a real betting man?:yep

If I win, Blockbot gets her. *shiver*

Hmm - hell yeah she is a niece piece of work! But I would never involve such a treasure in anything as stupid as a boxing bet;)

Blocky wouldnt get her anyway because she wouldnt (many reasons - no need to get personal) :yep

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 05:55 PM
Where's Deram's personality drained, expressionless opinion when we need it?

This thread is not complete without Deram and his creator DanePug.

Also, Pecks, Teke and JC need to come on over and join the fun.:good

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 05:56 PM
Hmm - hell yeah she is a niece piece of work! But I would never involve such a treasure in anything as stupid as a boxing bet;)

Blocky wouldnt get her anyway because she wouldnt (many reasons - no need to get personal) :yep

Well, CHJ and I put a pile of money in Blockbot(did you see those damn abs! The passionate pursuit of perfection), we can't afford to have him damaged in anyway.

Decebal
07-18-2007, 05:56 PM
Where's Deram's personality drained, expressionless opinion when we need it?

This thread is not complete without Deram and his creator DanePug.

Also, Pecks, Teke and JC need to come on over and join the fun.:good

:happy :happy :happy

Astola
07-18-2007, 06:01 PM
Well, CHJ and I put a pile of money in Blockbot(did you see those damn abs! The passionate pursuit of perfection), we can't afford to have him damaged in anyway.

Didnt see them - but I'll bet I can compete:hey

Fuck the Blocky dude - hes too young and has got zero experience too know what the fuck hes talking about. Although he sometimes qualify with insightfull comments....

I saw Blocky in a green T-shirt and another pic with his girl.... its a disgrace that he shows this in a boxing forum:deal

Astola
07-18-2007, 06:03 PM
Where's Deram's personality drained, expressionless opinion when we need it?

This thread is not complete without Deram and his creator DanePug.

Also, Pecks, Teke and JC need to come on over and join the fun.:good


I miss these dudes as well - Ive enjoyed reading posts over the last month or so.... We can make a bet on how long time it will take before one of them enter...:yep

Decebal
07-18-2007, 06:06 PM
I miss these dudes as well - Ive enjoyed reading posts over the last month or so.... We can make a bet on how long time it will take before one of them enter...:yep

20 minutes??

digiram
07-18-2007, 06:07 PM
I'm going with Kessler by TKO 10th-11th, and everyone is going to say that Calzahge got old overnight.

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 06:08 PM
Didnt see them - but I'll bet I can compete:hey

Fuck the Blocky dude - hes too young and has got zero experience too know what the fuck hes talking about. Although he sometimes qualify with insightfull comments....

I saw Blocky in a green T-shirt and another pic with his girl.... its a disgrace that he shows this in a boxing forum:deal

You're questioning CHJ's design of creating a "colourful figure" to combat the robot Deram?

The design is perfection, look at the response. CHJ and I are geniuses, it will show over when our enlightened Communist regime takes over the whole world.:yep

Astola
07-18-2007, 06:08 PM
20 minutes??

Ok for the fun of it I'll say 15 minutes...

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 06:09 PM
Ok for the fun of it I'll say 15 minutes...

2 days.

Astola
07-18-2007, 06:11 PM
You're questioning CHJ's design of creating a "colourful figure" to combat the robot Deram?

The design is perfection, look at the response. CHJ and I are geniuses, it will show over when our enlightened Communist regime takes over the whole world.:yep

Please show me the art!! I have been off for a while...

I must admit - You are a bloody good poster but CHJ is who everybody else wants to be:yep :good

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 06:13 PM
Please show me the art!! I have been off for a while...

I must admit - You are a bloody good poster but CHJ is who everybody else wants to bee:yep :good

And you're a good poster, but you don't come on hardly at all. Take some time off from fucking that bird(hard to do) and come on here to give Blockbot some abuse.:lol:

Decebal
07-18-2007, 06:16 PM
I'm going with Kessler by TKO 10th-11th, and everyone is going to say that Calzahge got old overnight.

I have to say I truly respect Joe for saying that he feels he will be in the form of his life come fight-night. He certainly gives himself no excuses where his age is concerned; quite the opposite in fact. I think that is fair. If Joe loses, it won't be because of his age. He may never have had a real prime, the way ****** arranged fights for him, and we all know that his body is younger than that of an average boxer of similar age because of his training regime, etc., etc., so no...personally, I won't accept any excuses of this kind, either for making the loss look less bad, or for making the victory look even better.

Astola
07-18-2007, 06:17 PM
And you're a good poster, but you don't come on hardly at all. Take some time off from fucking that bird(hard to do) and come on here to give Blockbot some abuse.:lol:

Ill choose the bird anytime dude:D

But when Im bored I'll show up. And predictions on this fight and others may help you and others in making your own prediction - winning mo money.

Decebal
07-18-2007, 06:18 PM
I must admit - You [Amsterdam] are a bloody good poster but CHJ is who everybody else wants to bee:yep :good

I underrate China Joe

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 06:22 PM
Ill choose the bird anytime dude:D

But when Im bored I'll show up. And predictions on this fight and others may help you and others in making your own prediction - winning mo money.

Yeah, I understand, hot pussy is addictive.

But, if you'll just realise that the Blocky prediction is reality, you'll not lose any wagers to me.:yep

Astola
07-18-2007, 06:28 PM
Yeah, I understand, hot pussy is addictive.

But, if you'll just realise that the Blocky prediction is reality, you'll not lose any wagers to me.:yep


No I'll win the wager by claiming Kessler will win - causing you to loose money.

I said it before - Blockys prediction is old school and wont stand the test of time....

huki
07-18-2007, 06:57 PM
I'm in a strange position here. I would love nothing more than to see Calzaghe lose in front of thousands of his fans, but at the same time, I don't want Kessler to win and have every Dane on here making threads about him being an ATG SMW. It's a really difficult pick.. Calzaghe seems to have the style advantage and experience on his side, but no one has seen Kessler perform in a big match and I think he will step up to another level and come away with the win. If Calzaghe wins, it also creates the Hopkins vs Calzaghe opportunity and it would be so perfect if Hopkins retired with a win over him.

Amsterdam/Zakman what do you think would be the biggest threat to Calzaghe at 168-175? Dawson? What would be your picks for Calzaghe vs Dawson/Hopkins? Oh, and Amsterdam, would you actually put money on Calzaghe beating Kessler by KO? That pick seems crazy. He owned Lacy all over the ring for every second and couldn't stop him, there's no way he will be owning Kessler like that.

Dantes
07-18-2007, 07:01 PM
If Calzaghe wins (and I don't think he will), it will be a closely contested fight, with Calzaghe's greater volume carrying the decision. I would be utterly shocked if he were able to pull a "Lacy" on a fighter who is considerably more skilled, and has many more facets to his game.

Personally, I think Kessler stops JC late in the fight.

:good

Amsterdam
07-18-2007, 07:07 PM
I'm in a strange position here. I would love nothing more than to see Calzaghe lose in front of thousands of his fans, but at the same time, I don't want Kessler to win and have every Dane on here making threads about him being an ATG SMW. It's a really difficult pick.. Calzaghe seems to have the style advantage and experience on his side, but no one has seen Kessler perform in a big match and I think he will step up to another level and come away with the win. If Calzaghe wins, it also creates the Hopkins vs Calzaghe opportunity and it would be so perfect if Hopkins retired with a win over him.

Amsterdam/Zakman what do you think would be the biggest threat to Calzaghe at 168-175? Dawson? What would be your picks for Calzaghe vs Dawson/Hopkins? Oh, and Amsterdam, would you actually put money on Calzaghe beating Kessler by KO? That pick seems crazy. He owned Lacy all over the ring for every second and couldn't stop him, there's no way he will be owning Kessler like that.

I'll have a pile on Calzaghe straight victory, then a bit on Calzaghe by KO.

Calzaghe bullies Dawson to a close UD, great fight.

Calzaghe outworks Hopkins and pops in and out for a very wide UD.

yesihavearm
07-18-2007, 07:21 PM
haha dont even mention kessler in the same sentence as a Prime Eubank. Chris would have absolutely schooled him, much like Joe is in nov.

yesihavearm
07-18-2007, 09:52 PM
the same calzaghe who's beaten a total of 2 worthwhile opponents- Shot eubank and hype-train lacy?
As opposed to Kessler ? Who's best opponent by about a million miles is a timid Mundine.

Eubank
Woodhall
Reid
Brewer
Sheika
Lacy
Bika

Kicks the shit out of Kesslers resume.


And hype-train ? Please, can we only use that phrase when refering to Kessler himself.

satyriion
07-19-2007, 08:00 AM
Tocker Pudwill would represent a tough challenge compared to what Kessler has been facing his ENTIRE career.


Lets see Blocky's Kessler v Calzaghe predictions so far.

They will never meet. Lose/lose for joe.

Mikkel is only 3 mil worth.

Mikkel won't draw the audience. Unknown entity to US

I am impressed you have not gone down your shit´hole yet, but come november 4th, you are gonna be one humiliated and totally stripped
"authority" on boxing.

Calzaghe is gonna get severly hit trying to "swarm" mikkel. He will taste straight right too much and end up like the other old guys like Beyer, Siaca, Lucas.
Hell they were all younger men than Joe. Joe will simply not leave his seat for round 9. That is if he has brains left. If not we will all enjoy seeing Joe fumbling round on the canves trying to figure out where he is and what happend to him, unable to stand up.

When he gets up he will face the reality of being beat in front of 60.000+ fans. Woouuw is that humiliating.

It is gonna one big bitter pill to swallow.

THN
07-19-2007, 08:34 AM
In Blocky's opinion Kessler must be crazy, why meet Calzaghe, he could do as Mundine, meet tomatoe cans, earn good money. But he insists to meet Calzaghe why? Bc. he think he's the real world champion. Whats the problem Blocky? if youre rigth he will be taught a lesson! but at least he would have shown some currage. I dont now the outcome of this figth, but i think your hate Blocky, makes you blind for the facth that Kessler is very good and clever in the ring. He hasent lost he's head in a figth, and thats why he looks
one dimensionel, bc. he do what boxing is about, hit without beeing hit yourself. "The noble art of self defence".
Calzaghe somtimes loose he's concentration and figth like a mad man, i think Kessler will take advantage of that, cool and calm he will destyroy Calzaghe.
But we'll se the 4 of november, if Calzaghe win's i'll cheer him, bc. he will be damn good.

Amsterdam
07-19-2007, 06:46 PM
Lets see Blocky's Kessler v Calzaghe predictions so far.

They will never meet. Lose/lose for joe.

Mikkel is only 3 mil worth.

Mikkel won't draw the audience. Unknown entity to US

I am impressed you have not gone down your shit´hole yet, but come november 4th, you are gonna be one humiliated and totally stripped
"authority" on boxing.

Calzaghe is gonna get severly hit trying to "swarm" mikkel. He will taste straight right too much and end up like the other old guys like Beyer, Siaca, Lucas.
Hell they were all younger men than Joe. Joe will simply not leave his seat for round 9. That is if he has brains left. If not we will all enjoy seeing Joe fumbling round on the canves trying to figure out where he is and what happend to him, unable to stand up.

When he gets up he will face the reality of being beat in front of 60.000+ fans. Woouuw is that humiliating.

It is gonna one big bitter pill to swallow.

:lol:

The Blocky prediction is an ATG.