View Full Version : Fragomeni vs Kraj for Haye's vacant title
Czech olympic silver medalist Rudolf Kraj will square off against Italian brawler Giocobe Fragomeni for the WBC's vacant cruiser weight title.
Kraj beat American Matt Godfrey in an eliminator in his last outing to a ring.
I guess it is fair to say that the Italian will be the underdog in this upcomming fight.
Your opinion????
avk47
05-13-2008, 06:47 AM
I am actually a huge fan of Fragomeni. He has a very nice style of boxing technically. Unfortunatly, he is a short, come-forward fighter with not enough power. That is the main limit on his career, because if he was a banger Haye would have had a much tougher fight against him.
I think his is the underdog agains Kraj, but I'm going to pick Fragomeni to win!
dwilson
05-13-2008, 06:49 AM
This looks a good fight. I am really excited about the prospect Kraj and he definetly seems ready to make the push to a title and in Fragomeni he gets a ggod old opperator to go up against. I can see Kraj winning this and maybe pulling off a late stoppage if Fragomeni's last performance is anything to go by.
How do you think the fight will go Odo and who is in line to fight the winner?
This looks a good fight. I am really excited about the prospect Kraj and he definetly seems ready to make the push to a title and in Fragomeni he gets a ggod old opperator to go up against. I can see Kraj winning this and maybe pulling off a late stoppage if Fragomeni's last performance is anything to go by.
How do you think the fight will go Odo and who is in line to fight the winner?
Tough question,dwilson!
Fragomeni didnt impress me much in one of his last fights against El Hadak. Kraj looked better against the same opponent IMO.
Not really sure but Fragomeni seems to be tailor made for Kraj. The Czech is a very lazy fighter inside the ring who doesnt really go for the kill or hunts down an overmatched opponent.At times he fights as lethargically as if he has taken a handful of sleeping pills.However,Kraj looks quite good against an opponent who comes at him and tries to duke it out.The Czech is a capable counterboxer who has pop in his fists.
Arslan vs Kraj would be a great fight by the way.
I will bet my money on Kraj by either a stoppage victory or a wide point decision.Fragomeni seems to be out of his shoes against the Czech.Well,hopefully he wont prove me wrong and outpoint the inactive Czech over 12 rounds!!!!
dwilson
05-13-2008, 10:48 AM
Tough question,dwilson!
Fragomeni didnt impress me much in one of his last fights against El Hadak. Kraj looked better against the same opponent IMO.
Not really sure but Fragomeni seems to be tailor made for Kraj. The Czech is a very lazy fighter inside the ring who doesnt really go for the kill or hunts down an overmatched opponent.At times he fights as lethargically as if he has taken a handful of sleeping pills.However,Kraj looks quite good against an opponent who comes at him and tries to duke it out.The Czech is a capable counterboxer who has pop in his fists.
Arslan vs Kraj would be a great fight by the way.
I will bet my money on Kraj by either a stoppage victory or a wide point decision.Fragomeni seems to be out of his shoes against the Czech.Well,hopefully he wont prove me wrong and outpoint the inactive Czech over 12 rounds!!!!
I see it being an ok fight but do not expect Kraj to over impress. He will win and probably comfortably. Great to see Kraj making a step up and getting near a title. Frag comes in as a decent opponent but his age will be a factor.
Kraj will win this fight.
boxexpert
05-18-2008, 04:33 PM
ill pick for kraj.
although im not too happy with that matchup,because both dont have the class of david haye.there are better boxers than those two
ill pick for kraj.
although im not too happy with that matchup,because both dont have the class of david haye.there are better boxers than those two
Nah! Neither Kraj nor Fragomeni play in Haye's league! You are also right in saying that there are better fighter out there at cruiser weight than Kraj and Fragomeni.
Anyway! Kraj won an eliminator against Gofrey.Therefore he rightfully gets a shot at the title,but why on earth is the limited Italian his opponent. What has he done to justify his nomination as Kraj's opponent?
emanuel_augustus
05-20-2008, 03:59 PM
Does Fragomeni really deserve a title shot? He hasn't done much since the loss to Haye, save a win over average Rossitto.
andyZOR
05-20-2008, 04:56 PM
Kraj will win, then we see him vs WLodarczyk
Does Fragomeni really deserve a title shot? He hasn't done much since the loss to Haye, save a win over average Rossitto.
You made a very good point,emanuel!!!
Why on earth does Fragomeni deserve a title shot??? I dont get it!!!
boxexpert
05-25-2008, 03:09 PM
thats boxing; it is not always the "correct" boxer who deserves a titleshot. promoters do manage those matchups. its all about money.
id rather see firat arslan fight for the title,he has worked so hard for his succeess and deserves it.
Tunney5
05-25-2008, 04:02 PM
Kraj should win this.
thats boxing; it is not always the "correct" boxer who deserves a titleshot. promoters do manage those matchups. its all about money.
id rather see firat arslan fight for the title,he has worked so hard for his succeess and deserves it.
Arslan has his own castle where he is the king of the wba title.
By the way Kraj and his style reminds me a little bit of Brudov and his style.
Kraj vs Arslan would probably be great fun to watch.
shawn1262231
07-22-2008, 05:15 AM
When is this fight taking place?
andyZOR
07-22-2008, 11:43 AM
The winner of Kraj vs Fragomeni must fight in first defense with former IBF champ Krzysztof Wlodarczyk ([Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]))
Yea I said that. :D
Good to see Two Polaks getting a title shot! :yep
shawn1262231
07-23-2008, 08:02 PM
When is this fight taking place? I haven't been able to find any new info on this fight for a while now.
emanuel_augustus
07-23-2008, 09:18 PM
By the way Kraj and his style reminds me a little bit of Brudov and his style.
Kraj vs Arslan would probably be great fun to watch.
I haven't seen Kraj. Brudov struck me as a fair boxer, good technician, but not a lot of power. Is this what you mean in the comparison?
Brudov/Arslan was a good fight.
Kraj was solid in the Godfrey fight. I thought it could have gone either way (scored for Godfrey by a point), but Kraj's straight right proved to be the decisive factor in the scoring.
I'd love to see Kraj in there with someone like Brudov, Arslan, or Wlodarczyk.
Tom_Tocca
07-24-2008, 03:57 PM
Kraj don't like body shots - I remember him from polish league. He was TKO by body shots two times i think. Of course it was somethink like 9 years ago but still I believe that Fragomeni or Włodarczy can KO him like that.
Fragomeni won't KO Kraj - I would have given Rossitto the chance to do it, but Fragomeni will be beaten on points - given that Kraj don't start as negative as he use to do.
sandwedge
07-24-2008, 05:53 PM
Kraj ud
I haven't seen Kraj. Brudov struck me as a fair boxer, good technician, but not a lot of power. Is this what you mean in the comparison?
Brudov/Arslan was a good fight.
Arslan vs Brudov was a very exciting fight indeed,emanuel!
By the way I for my part had Brudov ahead on points after 12 bloody close rounds.
Yep! Kraj is a good technician with a good defence,but he isnt known to be a puncher.Well,he for sure is no feather fisted fighter either.
Brudov takes more risks in a fight than Kraj ,but there are some similarities between them.
Arslan would probably beat his stable mate Kraj,too.
The Czech olympian silver medalist tends to be too lethargic and passive at times.Arslan has an excellent chin,and to be passive against Arslan is suicide.
emanuel_augustus
07-28-2008, 06:28 PM
Arslan vs Brudov was a very exciting fight indeed,emanuel!
By the way I for my part had Brudov ahead on points after 12 bloody close rounds.
Yep! Kraj is a good technician with a good defence,but he isnt known to be a puncher.Well,he for sure is no feather fisted fighter either.
Brudov takes more risks in a fight than Kraj ,but there are some similarities between them.
Arslan would probably beat his stable mate Kraj,too.
The Czech olympian silver medalist tends to be too lethargic and passive at times.Arslan has an excellent chin,and to be passive against Arslan is suicide.
I thought Arslan won that one. Brudov boxed effectively the first four or five rounds, but then Arslan's pressure took over.
If Kraj does languish, then he loses to Arslan, who is relentless with his forward motion.
johnp
07-28-2008, 08:00 PM
so where and when does this fight take place?
Arslan vs Brudov was a very exciting fight indeed,emanuel!
By the way I for my part had Brudov ahead on points after 12 bloody close rounds.
Yep! Kraj is a good technician with a good defence,but he isnt known to be a puncher.Well,he for sure is no feather fisted fighter either.
Brudov takes more risks in a fight than Kraj ,but there are some similarities between them.
Arslan would probably beat his stable mate Kraj,too.
The Czech olympian silver medalist tends to be too lethargic and passive at times.Arslan has an excellent chin,and to be passive against Arslan is suicide.
I had Brudov beating Arslan as well.
I still have no idea how Virgil Hill managed to clearly decision Brudov, at 40 years of age.
I had Brudov beating Arslan as well.
I still have no idea how Virgil Hill managed to clearly decision Brudov, at 40 years of age.
Brudov must have had a very bad day,axe!
shawn1262231
10-24-2008, 04:05 PM
Is there an internet stream for this fight?
Artani
10-25-2008, 07:42 AM
I like to see Kraj like winner but gone be very dificult for him because Italians will have edge..
I like to see Kraj like winner but gone be very dificult for him because Italians will have edge..
Fragomeni has won.
Hometown hero Giacobbe Fragomeni (26-1) won the vacant WBC cruiserweight title via eight round technical decision on Friday night at the famed Palalido in Milan, Italy. The bout was halted in the eighth due to a cut suffered by the 39-year-old Fragomeni in round seven from an unintentional headbutt. Fragmoeni (26-1) was up 77-74 on all cards against the previously unbeaten Rudy Kraj (14-1) at the time of the stoppage
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