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Suge Green
07-17-2007, 09:24 PM
Oleg Maskaev...it's always something with this guy. The World Boxing Conspiracy should strip this cowardly closet champion now. The WBC already gifted this guy with a defense against the unheralded (who...???) Peter Okhello.

An interim championship is not a satisfactory solution. El Presidente Sualiman and his fellow conspirators should use some of there evil powers to do some good for the world of boxing for a change.

In this current climate of unification, the WBC should be trying to prove their "champion" is the best (as if), in contrast they are considering making another champion...
:patsch

Amsterdam
07-17-2007, 09:25 PM
I'm on, no surprise there eh?

Oleg knows his time is up, he's not a sale what so ever, the prospect of Peter KOing him big is what the main sell to boxing fans is and he's trying to get as much pay as he can vs. an easier challenge. Fair, but this is holding up boxing and he's dishonourably ducking Peter.

Strip the bastard.

JETSKI
07-17-2007, 09:27 PM
Screw you. Olegs a good guy & a damn good fighter.:nono

thesandman
07-17-2007, 09:27 PM
I'll be in.
With the WBC champ not being forced to fight anyone
Peter having to fight 2 eliminators to get his shot
Peter then not possibly getting a shot, but fighting for an interim title
Vitlay and this emeritus bullshit
Oliver McCall then fighting another eliminator ( 3 eliminators and still no fight?????????) and becoming what, a second mandatory?The WBC is becoming a farce.

So currently we have:
Champion (who doesn't seem to have to fight anyone)
Emeritus Champion
Mandatory challenger
Another Mandatory Challenger

Maybe to become:

Champion
Interim Champion
Champion Emeritus
Mandatory Challenger (to who? all 3 of them?)


It's fucking ridiculous.

Ring Master
07-17-2007, 09:28 PM
Strip that fucker!

Ring Master
07-17-2007, 09:29 PM
Screw you. Olegs a good guy & a damn good fighter.:nono

Fuck a good guy we need a good Champion and his coward ways ain't working. You must just be a supporter of boxers and not a fan of boxing with that outlook.

RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 09:34 PM
Fuck that shit. Let Oleg get his proper due. He's the champion & entitled to 70-75% of the spoils, the WBC made this whole mess and they're trying to make Oleg pay for it.

BTW, Peter sucks anyway. Many people thought he lost the first eliminator and in the second he beat Toney easily, but Toney went on to struggle with a tomato can. What does that say about the version of Toney that Peter beat?

Mr. KO punch hasn't KO'd a single top 10 opponent to date.

RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 09:35 PM
Fuck a good guy we need a good Champion and his coward ways ain't working. You must just be a supporter of boxers and not a fan of boxing with that outlook.

If you were a true fan of boxing you wouldn't want that plodding, clubbing, slob as your HW champion anyway would you?

Goose
07-17-2007, 09:38 PM
Fuck a good guy we need a good Champion and his coward ways ain't working. You must just be a supporter of boxers and not a fan of boxing with that outlook.

what a dumb ass thing to say.

Maskaev is being screwed over by WBC and the promoters, it could be his last fight before retirement, and he is not to blame for asking to be treated fairly and like a champ that he is

The man fought Tua in his prime, was thrown to the wolfs since his pro debut and you calling him a coward,..... you are either a teenager or knows nothing about this sport.

Suge Green
07-17-2007, 09:40 PM
Fuck a good guy we need a good Champion and his coward ways ain't working. You must just be a supporter of boxers and not a fan of boxing with that outlook.


...that's what I'm saying. When Maskaev announced the Okhello fight I was suprised about his fans and well wishers, happy for OLEG to be getting in that one last payday, before he gets KTFO (cue Sam Peter's KO of Jeremy "Weak Chin" Williams (a lil' JT) of the title picture for good.

This time I'm not suprised, they're singing the same song. It's like he strikes the heart strings of "sensitive boxing fans" :barf...everywhere.

Everybody posting on behalf of Maskaev must have an Uncle OLEG out there somewhere, who's had a rough life... :|

Ring Master
07-17-2007, 09:41 PM
If you were a true fan of boxing you wouldn't want that plodding, clubbing, slob as your HW champion anyway would you?

I don't care who wins, i feel he should defend against the long standing 1# contender. plain and simple.

RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 09:46 PM
...that's what I'm saying. When Maskaev announced the Okhello fight I was suprised about his fans and well wishers, happy for OLEG to be getting in that one last payday, before he gets KTFO (cue Sam Peter's KO of Jeremy "Weak Chin" Williams (a lil' JT) of the title picture for good.

This time I'm not suprised, they're singing the same song. It's like he strikes the heart strings of "sensitive boxing fans" :barf...everywhere.

Everybody posting on behalf of Maskaev must have an Uncle OLEG out there somewhere, who's had a rough life... :|


Bullshit, Oleg earned the right to get paid properly for being the guy with the belt on the line. If Peter's people were as sure as you are that he'd beat Maskaev they'd take whatever they can get for the shot since they're so sure he's going to win.

King & Arum think they have a PPV star here? Who the fuck is Sam Peter? Oleg has a belt, Peter has greedy promoters. :deal

Ring Master
07-17-2007, 09:47 PM
what a dumb ass thing to say.

Maskaev is being screwed over by WBC and the promoters, it could be his last fight before retirement, and he is not to blame for asking to be treated fairly and like a champ that he is

The man fought Tua in his prime, was thrown to the wolfs since his pro debut and you calling him a coward,..... you are either a teenager or knows nothing about this sport.

:lol: Oleg relax, you mad?

why b/c the rules of boxing should be up held and champions should have to defend against long standing #1 contenders and not be allowed to hold the belt hosage?

he was given an exception to fight Peter O. Then he goes on an almost year long negotiation with V.Klit for nothing to happend.

I don't see how any sane boxing fan in the world is happy about the WBC HW title not being defended against a top-ten contender in like 2 years.

I understand your russian so that is why you got that sand in your vagina over this issue and you coming out your mouth like that.

Ring Master
07-17-2007, 09:49 PM
Bullshit, Oleg earned the right to get paid properly for being the guy with the belt on the line. If Peter's people were as sure as you are that he'd beat Maskaev they'd take whatever they can get for the shot since they're so sure he's going to win.

King & Arum think they have a PPV star here? Who the fuck is Sam Peter? Oleg has a belt, Peter has greedy promoters. :deal

but to be fair, how much time and money has PETER LOST b/c of this situation?

RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 09:49 PM
I don't care who wins, i feel he should defend against the long standing 1# contender. plain and simple.

Well I agree but Oleg should get the standard, arbitrated amount of 70-75% of the purse.

One spectacular KO of Jeremy Williams & now he's the new Tyson? Oleg has TWO highlight reel KO's vs. a better opponent & former World Champion Rahman, one of which earned him the WBC belt in the first place.

RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 09:54 PM
but to be fair, how much time and money has PETER LOST b/c of this situation?

The WBC should be held accountable, not the Champion. Oleg didn't make Vitali the "WBC Champion Emeritus" did he?

That designation said that Vitali could come back at any time for an immediate title shot. The WBC created their own quandry...............they should refund Peter some of his sanctioning fees and some compensation for lost time.

Goose
07-17-2007, 09:54 PM
:lol: Oleg relax, you mad?

why b/c the rules of boxing should be up held and champions should have to defend against long standing #1 contenders and not be allowed to hold the belt hosage?

he was given an exception to fight Peter O. Then he goes on an almost year long negotiation with V.Klit for nothing to happend.

I don't see how any sane boxing fan in the world is happy about the WBC HW title not being defended against a top-ten contender in like 2 years.

I understand your russian so that is why you got that sand in your vagina over this issue and you coming out your mouth like that.
Okhello was a voluntary defence , fool :-(

RUSKULL
07-17-2007, 09:56 PM
Okhello was a voluntary defence , fool :-(

It seems it's only okay to have a so-so voluntary title defense if one of these guys likes you as a boxer. :-(

Lame

Suge Green
07-17-2007, 10:00 PM
Well I agree but Oleg should get the standard, arbitrated amount of 70-75% of the purse.

One spectacular KO of Jeremy Williams & now he's the new Tyson? Oleg has TWO highlight reel KO's vs. a better opponent & former World Champion Rahman, one of which earned him the WBC belt in the first place.

WHat up Skull...???
...don't know why your getting so defensive over Maskaev. Do you have an uncle Olie out there...???

It's not the money man. They could have effectively made a stink about this issue long ago.

Anyways, for the sake of discussion...Say they resolve that...we get closer to the fight, and Team Maskaev will have another reason not to proceed.

If it was the money, their statements would reflect a strong desire to face Sam Peter, and prove to the world he is all hype. They are not saying "Give us the money so we can do this." ...any honest person can observe this.

BTW, I don't see Sam Peter marrying sitcom stars, and wrapping his vehicles around trees anytime soon. At least that's not what I got from the Williams KO. :smoke

AJAX
07-17-2007, 10:00 PM
I'll be in.

With the WBC champ not being forced to fight anyone
Peter having to fight 2 eliminators to get his shot
Peter then not possibly getting a shot, but fighting for an interim title
Vitlay and this emeritus bullshit
Oliver McCall then fighting another eliminator ( 3 eliminators and still no fight?????????) and becoming what, a second mandatory?The WBC is becoming a farce.

So currently we have:
Champion (who doesn't seem to have to fight anyone)
Emeritus Champion
Mandatory challenger
Another Mandatory Challenger

Maybe to become:

Champion
Interim Champion
Champion Emeritus
Mandatory Challenger (to who? all 3 of them?)


It's fucking ridiculous.

they are indeed making fools of themselves, but that's water off a duck's back. they've lost all credibility a long time ago and they don't even seem to care anymore.But I still think Oleg should get the standard 70- 75%, why all of the sudden should he take a pay cut because they fucked Peter around. And what the Fuck is with making Mcall another Mandatory when Vitaly is already next in line. Mcall wouldn't be able to fight for another year and a half or 2 years.:-(

Street Lethal
07-17-2007, 10:01 PM
Stop with the stripping already! This is part of what has put boxing in the poor state that it is in. If the guy doesn't defend against credible opposition then we will know it and not give him any kudos.

Joe Louis fought lots of fighters who should not have been in the ring with him and nobody thought he should have been stripped. Marciano avoided the big heavyweights and nobody thought he should have been stripped. Dempsey didn't fight for long stretches but nobody stripped him.

The champion loses his title in the ring. We will all know whether Oleg is a pussy soon enough.

Ring Master
07-17-2007, 10:09 PM
Okhello was a voluntary defence , fool :-(

Point is he got to make some money against a non threat. Now do what is good for boxing and fight!

your insults just show your emotion over the situation. And really only bitches get emotionally, so please clean that sand out your vagina and man the fuck up.

fatcity
07-17-2007, 10:25 PM
Oleg got his kiss on his first"defense".Fight Peter or get stripped.Some champion.:-(

RUSKULL
07-19-2007, 04:08 PM
WHat up Skull...???
...don't know why your getting so defensive over Maskaev. Do you have an uncle Olie out there...???

It's not the money man. They could have effectively made a stink about this issue long ago.

Anyways, for the sake of discussion...Say they resolve that...we get closer to the fight, and Team Maskaev will have another reason not to proceed.

If it was the money, their statements would reflect a strong desire to face Sam Peter, and prove to the world he is all hype. They are not saying "Give us the money so we can do this." ...any honest person can observe this.

BTW, I don't see Sam Peter marrying sitcom stars, and wrapping his vehicles around trees anytime soon. At least that's not what I got from the Williams KO. :smoke

I believe the shoe is on the other foot. It's Peter's people who have no confidence in him to win so they're trying for every dollar they can get right now. That's the jist of it. If they knew Peter would rule the division for years to come they'd not be so worried, plain & simple.

IntentionalButt
07-19-2007, 04:12 PM
I don't care enough about the WBC belt or the Peter-Maskaev-Vitali situation to feel passionately about this, sorry. I don't see how one fraction of the the heavyweight title picture would be anything but a backburner issue for any fan of this sport.

diamondDave
07-19-2007, 06:31 PM
Oleg Maskaev...it's always something with this guy. The World Boxing Conspiracy should strip this cowardly closet champion now. The WBC already gifted this guy with a defense against the unheralded (who...???) Peter Okhello.

An interim championship is not a satisfactory solution. El Presidente Sualiman and his fellow conspirators should use some of there evil powers to do some good for the world of boxing for a change.

In this current climate of unification, the WBC should be trying to prove their "champion" is the best (as if), in contrast they are considering making another champion...
:patsch


I could not disagree with you more...when Sam Peter refused to fight because of money he was principaled, when Oleg refuses for the same reason then he is cowardly...pay Oleg the legit champions share and he will come to the table!

The Italarican
07-19-2007, 08:59 PM
All the heavyweight beltholders of recent years have gotten ridiculous gimme title defenses (although Wladimir's was forced on him). It's a relief that looks to change with Ibragimov and Chagaev going straight after each other. Good riddance to feux beltholders that give guys like Owen Beck and Peter Okhello title shots.

RUSKULL
07-20-2007, 08:54 AM
I could not disagree with you more...when Sam Peter refused to fight because of money he was principaled, when Oleg refuses for the same reason then he is cowardly...pay Oleg the legit champions share and he will come to the table!

I agree 100%. Oleg has the belt and Peter ain't got shit.

Curtis Lowe
07-20-2007, 09:40 AM
If one actually weighs all the facts with what has been going on with this soap opera, one has to conclude that basically the WBC is trying to put the screws to Oleg by beating Oleg out of his legitimate portion of the purse. I predict that if the WBC strips Oleg, Oleg's management will succesfully sue the WBC for damages. If this happens, the WBC will not be as fortunate as they were last time when they screwed the European fighter, he sued and won a $30 million settlement. This almost made the WBC fold, but the fighter settled for a smaller amount and the WBC lived on (kinda like a vampire, sucking the blood out fighters). Wish there was a way Jose S. and Don King could both be held liable.

Ivo
07-20-2007, 10:02 AM
I believe that Oleg has the right to demand what belongs to him. Just give him that money and he will fight Peter right away. No conspiracy here. Just give him the money.

rvk2007
07-20-2007, 10:08 AM
I agree this is wrong. I say strip him from his belt and let vitali and samuel peter fight for the wbc crown!

RUSKULL
07-20-2007, 10:53 AM
this is BS the WBC has no real rules, their board can vote anything out, this is not the first time a defence that went to purse will go 45%-55% and will not be the last Oleg needs to fight NOW

Vitali delayed the situation for 6 months and Oleg nearly another 6, peters prime is wasting away, they need to wrap this and unify, the fact that Peter is such a dangerous challenger is whats delaying it, lets be honest here

Peter's prime...............LOL :lol: :rofl :yep :nut

Sputnik44
07-20-2007, 12:12 PM
It doesn't matter if he's a dangerous challenger everyone has been saying masaev just wants to get paid and I for one thinks he deserves it...I'm kind of hoping he has something left and beats Peter...

Dangerous or not give maskaev his money and he will fight

Peter is so over rated it's disgusting who has he beaten? as someone here once told me Vitali's biggest resume builders are a loss to lennox and a loss to byrd

well the same goes for Peter his biggest claim to fame is knocking Wlad down 3 times and still losing big


he's a farce and good chin or not will be laying flat if he tries to fight good comp instead of knocking out bums

Feiti
07-20-2007, 01:04 PM
Oleg should get the 70% like he´s supposed to. If it is indeed true that it was Vitali who delayed the fight (by saying he needed more time) then he should be stripped of the BS Emeritus title and work his way up to contention like normal.

Shotgun
07-20-2007, 02:51 PM
Oleg should dump that belt and fight Wlad for the Ring title in October :deal

The WBC is jerking Oleg around with their bullshit, caving in to Peter's promoters. The 55-45 split exception they made is a joke. Oleg may not be a big draw but Sam peter is not a draw either, and has lost clearly to the only top level true HEAVYWEIGHT opponent he's fought. He's done nothing to deserve a 55-45 split in a purse bid situation. It's no surprise that this type of shit's happening when Don King's involved

Illmatic
07-20-2007, 03:00 PM
I'll be in.
With the WBC champ not being forced to fight anyone
Peter having to fight 2 eliminators to get his shot
Peter then not possibly getting a shot, but fighting for an interim title
Vitlay and this emeritus bullshit
Oliver McCall then fighting another eliminator ( 3 eliminators and still no fight?????????) and becoming what, a second mandatory?The WBC is becoming a farce.

So currently we have:
Champion (who doesn't seem to have to fight anyone)
Emeritus Champion
Mandatory challenger
Another Mandatory Challenger

Maybe to become:

Champion
Interim Champion
Champion Emeritus
Mandatory Challenger (to who? all 3 of them?)


It's fucking ridiculous.

Greast breakdown....its absolutely ridiculous

Heavyrighthand
07-20-2007, 03:05 PM
I wonder if there has been any news on this whole fiasco. Last I read on it, was that Peter was maybe going to face McCall or Virchis for the illustrious Interim title, and Oleg being allowed to sit out and then fight the winner.

The Kurgan
07-20-2007, 03:20 PM
I wonder if there has been any news on this whole fiasco. Last I read on it, was that Peter was maybe going to face McCall or Virchis for the illustrious Interim title, and Oleg being allowed to sit out and then fight the winner.

So here's a possible schedule-

Peter VS Virchis for the interim title

Peter VS Oleg for the WBC title

Peter VS McCall

THEN

Peter VS Vitali

Vitali could well not get a shot at the WBC title until 2009 if this happens. :patsch

CASH_718
07-20-2007, 03:22 PM
Screw you. Olegs a good guy & a damn good fighter.:nonoHe's a jagoff and can't fight for shit.

Strip him.

RUSKULL
07-20-2007, 03:48 PM
He's a jagoff and can't fight for shit.

Strip him.

Well he sure did well against Rahman twice didn't he? :yep

Think before you post Cashish....................

RUSKULL
07-20-2007, 03:48 PM
He's a jagoff and can't fight for shit.

Strip him.

Well he sure did well against Rahman twice didn't he? :yep

Think before you post Cashish....................

RUSKULL
07-20-2007, 03:48 PM
He's a jagoff and can't fight for shit.

Strip him.

Well he sure did well against Rahman twice didn't he? :yep

Think before you post Cashish....................

Suge Green
03-14-2008, 01:49 PM
Ahhh..like it was yesterday. Good riddance. Thank you Sam Peter. Please be a fighting champion.