Dropping the left arm

[average_joe]

What are the advantages of dropping the left arm while fighting (like in the Philly Shell)? It allows the left arm to rest a little, but it also leaves you open more. I've tried punching from this position, but the jabs are a lot slower and more awkward from a low position.

[Ai9184]

it doesnt necessarly leave you open if you know what your doin, most people will drop that left hand to better protect there body and well there open for a right hand your supossed to block it wit ur shoulder or "roll it"......honestly just keep your left hand up, not every1 is floyd mayweather

[RDJ]

You can use the left arm to protect the body.
Luring people in, if you plan on countering them.
They can't see the left hand coming.

[sheff-fighter]

I've never tried it, but from what I've read you're right, it's not great for throwing jabs, but it's better for protecting the body and throwing hooks.

I never see anyone doing this in the amateur bouts I watch (compared to the amount I see it in the pros), is that because of the style of fighting in the ams doesn't fit it or the quality of the fighter?

[ajay11]

You don't need the left arm low to protect the body, just drop the elbow down a little and your fine.

The left arm being down offers alternate angles when throwing punches and is easier to land body shots to the liver (or jab to the mid-section if you like)

Also if you have one arm high and one low your opponent may find it a little more difficult to deal with combinations coming in from different angles + height etc...

It's more an offensive tactic than a defensive one for fighters with good hand speed.

[ralphc]

What are the advantages of dropping the left arm while fighting (like in the Philly Shell)? It allows the left arm to rest a little, but it also leaves you open more. I've tried punching from this position, but the jabs are a lot slower and more awkward from a low position.


Philly Shell is a fuckin' joke. It is a techically flawed style which gets a lot of damn fool young boxers knocked out, like that bonehead Kermit Cintron for example. 30 or 40 years ago if you wanted to look cool what you did was imitate Muhammad Ali, put your hands down, bounce up and down on your toes and wait to get hit. Times have changed, now if you want to look cool you have to imitate Floyd Mayweather. Doesn't matter how you look cool, the end result is always the same, the boneheads get knocked out.

[WHU]

i think this attaching Mayweather to the philly shell is unfair on him he is a much more versatile fighter than this i cant remember a fight of his in the last 10years in which he has used only one guard for the duration of the fight.and the philly shell dont get people knocked out its when you dont execute it properly and or your opponents identifies flaws in your guard.someone can have a flaw in a high guard ie low right hand etc.all guards have weaknesses hands up sqaure stance in my opinion is the worst stance as offewrs way to mcuh of your body.

[RDJ]

i think this attaching Mayweather to the philly shell is unfair on him he is a much more versatile fighter than this i cant remember a fight of his in the last 10years in which he has used only one guard for the duration of the fight.and the philly shell dont get people knocked out its when you dont execute it properly and or your opponents identifies flaws in your guard.someone can have a flaw in a high guard ie low right hand etc.all guards have weaknesses hands up sqaure stance in my opinion is the worst stance as offewrs way to mcuh of your body.

Well said. There's a word for people who only deploy one guard, or one method of defense. The word is "limited", or "one dimensional" (ok that's two words).

[JMonster]

great for left hooks

[elindiomonzon]

the ones who say that its all wrong for the jab are wrong, the advantages of this type of defense is that you dont telegraph the jab u can snap it very fast and with strenght(not as much as the conventional style) but still with the necessary strength to keep your opponent at range for a fast combination.

P.S. this style is for fast boxers not for slow ones, if u slow u will get your as counter every time u throw the jab or any other combination.

[joekirkbycobra]

i fight with my left down similar to junio witters style i also switch alot
ive found that if you tuck your chin behind your shoulder (like b-hop )thats effect because when the jab slides off your shoulder it opens up the uppercut or right screw
it also draws the fighter in an thus openin him up
i prefer it myself i'll take a vid of me sparrin sometime

[Rebel-INS]

Depends on your style. If your quick handed and have a fast jab, you can flick it out like Tommy Hearns, but you also need good footspeed and long reach to use it properly.

[roscoe]

RJJ has got a lot to answer to with fighters coming out carrying there left by their waist. You can get away with it if your got tremedous handspeed & anticipation in the reflexes, like he did. But once they fade sooner or later your gunna get nailed, just like he did.

[boxingtactics07]

Well said. There's a word for people who only deploy one guard, or one method of defense. The word is "limited", or "one dimensional" (ok that's two words).

:good

[average_joe]

the ones who say that its all wrong for the jab are wrong, the advantages of this type of defense is that you dont telegraph the jab u can snap it very fast and with strenght(not as much as the conventional style) but still with the necessary strength to keep your opponent at range for a fast combination.

P.S. this style is for fast boxers not for slow ones, if u slow u will get your as counter every time u throw the jab or any other combination.

I agree that it is a lot harder to see coming. But everytime I've tried to jab high from this position, it's felt wrong. Jabs to the body work fine though. I think I'll wait till I'm better with the conventional stance before I try the philly shell though.

[elindiomonzon]

if u are not comfortable with the style dont use it, because later on can develop flaws on your style. just find a comfortable position(style)to fight.

[Melbourneborn]

An advantage of that style of found from being in the ring with guys who use it is.. its tougher to slip their jab. If they shoot it from their hip, up to your chin, i find it a lot harder to slip it. Dont know why and dont know if anyone else is the same, but yea, thats something that ive found.

[WHU]

An advantage of that style of found from being in the ring with guys who use it is.. its tougher to slip their jab. If they shoot it from their hip, up to your chin, i find it a lot harder to slip it. Dont know why and dont know if anyone else is the same, but yea, thats something that ive found.

ye i think it is because you see it later, my coach has said to counter this make sure your left foot is outside their left foot so it is jab on jab if that makes sense it more left hand on left hanf as they will hav to pivot to get the right off

[Orishaman]

no..no droping of the left hand...period...

[ajay11]

no..no droping of the left hand...period...

It's what I recommend as I've yet to personally come across anyone with enough class to benefit from it.

Most likely find that right hand come over the top.

[Thumpa50814]

rolling punches but dont drop your hand keep them up defend you face