Konstantin Airich vs. Danny Williams

[Tunney5]

This fight will take place on May 30. Konstantin Airich is 9-0-1 with 8 KOs. This is a very big step up for him.

Does Airich have a chance against Williams? Herbie Hide says he has a puncher's chance because of his power.

If Airich does win, he will establish himself as a decent heavyweight.

[NBT]

Williams should wins this clearly. Airich is significantly worse than Köber or Kretschmann and I would favour Williams to beat both right now.

[RonnieHornschuh]

Williams should wins this clearly. Airich is significantly worse than Köber or Kretschmann and I would favour Williams would probably beat both right now.
i have only seen köber fight, he could take a ud against danny or he could get knocked out. you are sure that airich is that much worse than köber? if so he is badly managed.

[Odo]

Williams should wins this clearly. Airich is significantly worse than Köber or Kretschmann and I would favour Williams to beat both right now.

Well spoken,nbt! I quite agree with you!

Airich is the huge underdog in his upcomming fight against Williams.

Airich's promoter Oener doesnt seem to be a friend of careful matchmaking.
His boys either go the dogs or rush down the fast track towards big fights very quickly.

[sean]

anyone know who is putting it on tv.

as herbie hide is on the bill
eurosport ?

[Tunney5]

I don't know whether it will be on TV, but there will likely be an internet stream for this fight card.

[Artani]

Danny Williams by KO .

[Lucky Punch]

anyone know who is putting it on tv.

as herbie hide is on the bill
eurosport ?

DSF :hi:

[jameswilson]

anyone know who is putting it on tv.

as herbie hide is on the bill
eurosport ?


Think I heard secondsout tv willbe doing it, I havent a clue what type of service they offer tho.


Williams has started to look pretty good of late, he broke Gammer's heart and also in my mind beat Platov, the ref brought the doctor in to stop the fight because of a cut to Platov 20 seconds before the 4th round finished, had he checked it after the round had finished Williams would have got a points win and seeing as he scored a knockdown (ref ruled it so I believe by the rules it has to be ruled a KD) and had also been landing flush in the 4th Id assume he would get the win.

You never really know with undefeated fighters tho, some can crack when they see someone take their shots and come back with their own whereas others have the instinct to do what it takes to win. I am looking forward to seeing this result anyway.

[mike464]

Williams has started to look pretty good of late, he broke Gammer's heart and also in my mind beat Platov, the ref brought the doctor in to stop the fight because of a cut to Platov 20 seconds before the 4th round finished, had he checked it after the round had finished Williams would have got a points win and seeing as he scored a knockdown (ref ruled it so I believe by the rules it has to be ruled a KD) and had also been landing flush in the 4th Id assume he would get the win.Williams was ripped off big time there. What a joke.

[rooq]

eurosport uk don't appear to have any boxing on their listings for the 30th, but they'll probably at least show the card delayed as they have done with previous hide and williams fights.

[Cruiser1]

Ohner's matchmaking:

Not necessarily good for fighter development but fun for the fans wouldn't ya say?

[bumdujour]

dont know what to make of this. airich is powerfull, but crude.

but with williams, you dont get no guarantees.

[koraytyson]

Turkish Channel Kanaltürk will show the night.

[11player]

Any chance Airich might win this one?

How much credit a win will give Danny? enough for a top 15 ranking somewhere?

[jamel]

I think Danny Williams wins this although reports have said he was a bit sluggish in his last fight beating Marcus McGee by UD6 after flooring McGee a few times. That was in April and Williams was 258lbs I would hope he will come lighter for this fight. If this is the case I pick Williams by KO in Rds 4-6, then in July he meets John McDermott in a defence of his British Title this should be another KO win. I'm not sure what he will do after this but it will have been a quite active period for him having fought in Dec 2007 against Oleg Platov too.

[bumdujour]

graham houston has installed airich as the favorite!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is a surprise.....

[PH|LLA]

Danny Williams 267 lbs

[wally]

Danny Williams 267 lbs

lol yeah

the ever unpredictable weight of Danny :D

[sinan58]

Turkish Channel Kanaltürk will show the night.is this joke arkadaşım

[shavers]

Danny will probably win a ud. However it will be fun to see if airich is that big a puncher people are making him out to be...

[Chillman]

DSF :hi:

I'm giving this answer a bump just to make sure everyone knows that's the German channel broadcasting the event live for free right now.

[LB3000]

Has the fight started yet? Those of you who can watch it please keep us updated if you can, cheers.

[NBT]

No, Hide is fighting and is being his usual self. I jusrt don't get why he never gets point deductions, he is one dirty SOB.

[micky]

Herbie won on pts - put the guy down in the fourth apparently although have not seen the fight, will do him good to go some rounds its all been too easy on his comeback

[jamel]

No, Hide is fighting and is being his usual self. I jusrt don't get why he never gets point deductions, he is one dirty SOB. I disagree Hide's performance was good and showed he is mentally right and is able to go 12 rounds :good

[NBT]

I disagree Hide's performance was good and showed he is mentally right and is able to go 12 rounds :good
What do you mean you disagree? You're not seriously saying Hide is not dirty,are you? Have you ever seen him fight? Punches after the break, rabbit punches, punches when the man is down, he showed his whole repertoir in this fight.

[NBT]

I'm suprised, Arich is doing good, Williams seems to be past it, he can't take Airich's punches. If Williams doesn't land something big soon, he might get stopped.

[Toney]

I'm suprised, Arich is doing good, Williams seems to be past it, he can't take Airich's punches. If Williams doesn't land something big soon, he might get stopped.

Thats cool! :good

[NBT]

Nice fight, Williams got points deducted for a low blow and punching after the break and three counts but knocked down Airich as well. Maybe Williams can turn it around.

2nd knockdown for Williams.

WTF ??? they stopped the round at 1:30 when Airich was in big trouble.

Fight is over, Airichs corner threw the towel.

Good win for Danny, but he looked really bad in the beginning, a better fighter finishes him.

[koraytyson]

is this joke arkadaşım

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[kurt2006]

This fight showed why german boxing is a complete joke. The bastard german/turk promoters did everything to cheat DW out of a win.

Such dirty low life scum should be kicked out of boxing). They are not content with fixing fights in Germany but have now spread their tentacles to Spain. They did the same in the Platov fight.

[dwilson]

The Turks are always up to these dirty little tricks.

[kurt2006]

The Turks are always up to these dirty little tricks.

Not just the Turks that other big german promoter also does this. The old chap who does the big shows (well they are bigger than the shows these Turko-German promoters do).

It is time boxing was banned in germany or carefully monitored by the government over there.

[jamel]

What do you mean you disagree? You're not seriously saying Hide is not dirty,are you? Have you ever seen him fight? Punches after the break, rabbit punches, punches when the man is down, he showed his whole repertoir in this fight. This is all part of boxing many others have done the same, GO Herbie.

[jamel]

Danny sure battered Airich, i'm glad he was not robbed by the crooked ref. Go Danny

[NBT]

This is all part of boxing many others have done the same, GO Herbie.
No, it's not part of boxing, it's explicitly illegal, read the rules.

[Tunney5]

This fight showed why german boxing is a complete joke. The bastard german/turk promoters did everything to cheat DW out of a win.

Such dirty low life scum should be kicked out of boxing). They are not content with fixing fights in Germany but have now spread their tentacles to Spain. They did the same in the Platov fight.

No, in the Platov fight, Wiliams cut Oleg with a deliberate headbutt because he was losing. Danny should have been disqualified.

In this fight, once again Danny was losing, he'd been hurt several times. Then in the fourth round, he hit Airich with several rabbit punches that seemed to weaken him - from that point on until the TKO, Williams dominated.

Williams is a mediocre heavyweight who would have been stopped in both the Platov and Airich fights had he not resorted to dirty tactics. The ref today did deduct points, but probably should have disqualified Williams for repeated fouls. The ref in the Platov fight ignored Danny's head butts, low blows, holding while hitting, and hitting after the break.

[BigEars]

No, in the Platov fight, Wiliams cut Oleg with a deliberate headbutt because he was losing. Danny should have been disqualified.

In this fight, once again Danny was losing, he'd been hurt several times. Then in the fourth round, he hit Airich with several rabbit punches that seemed to weaken him - from that point on until the TKO, Williams dominated.

Williams is a mediocre heavyweight who would have been stopped in both the Platov and Airich fights had he not resorted to dirty tactics. The ref today did deduct points, but probably should have disqualified Williams for repeated fouls. The ref in the Platov fight ignored Danny's head butts, low blows, holding while hitting, and hitting after the break.

I haven't seen the Airich fight but I have the feeling your not too keen on Mr.Williams .

Williams was robbed of a win against Platov, not the other way around and it seems from what I've read that he was nerely screwed again tonight .

[Toney]

Williams was robbed of a win against Platov, not the other way around and it seems from what I've read that he was nerely screwed again tonight .
Yeah, everyone knows that this is the truth. Danny is nothing great, but I am very happy that he got the win this time.

[geppy]

Danny Williams was down 3 times? And came back to win.

Well, it shows that Airich is a legitimate puncher. Williams has a hard head as seen from the assault he survived from Mike Tyson and the prolongoned brutal beat down by Klitschko.

Airich took this fight way too soon. He only has 10 fights and I never herd of him as an amatuer. Acctually I never hear of him until right now, he was moved up way too quick in competition.

[kurt2006]

No, in the Platov fight, Wiliams cut Oleg with a deliberate headbutt because he was losing. Danny should have been disqualified.

In this fight, once again Danny was losing, he'd been hurt several times. Then in the fourth round, he hit Airich with several rabbit punches that seemed to weaken him - from that point on until the TKO, Williams dominated.

Williams is a mediocre heavyweight who would have been stopped in both the Platov and Airich fights had he not resorted to dirty tactics. The ref today did deduct points, but probably should have disqualified Williams for repeated fouls. The ref in the Platov fight ignored Danny's head butts, low blows, holding while hitting, and hitting after the break.

Are you Platov's dad ?

Danny did not headbutt him with intention, if you watch the fight what happened was that they were close together and Platov caught him with a punch, naturally with the momentum Danny's head moved and it hit Platov. Not exactly an intentional headbutt.

They continued for a while before the ref and the cornermen conveniently stopped the fight because DW was going to KO Platov.

The fer last night was deducted points willy nilly and this was nothing but a display of how german boxing promoters have spread their dirty tentacles across Europe to corrupt refs. Besides you ignore the round where the bell sounded 1m 28s early to save Airich.

[kurt2006]

Danny Williams was down 3 times? And came back to win.

Well, it shows that Airich is a legitimate puncher. Williams has a hard head as seen from the assault he survived from Mike Tyson and the prolongoned brutal beat down by Klitschko.

Airich took this fight way too soon. He only has 10 fights and I never herd of him as an amatuer. Acctually I never hear of him until right now, he was moved up way too quick in competition.

No it did not show Airich is a legitamate puncher, it showed he was a hyped up average fighter promoted by germans.

Also Danny ws not down 3 times. Some of the standing counts were undertaken by the ref with no signs of Danny being hurt.

Overall this fight showed why german boxing is a farce and why it needs monitoring. If the germans like fixed events they should forget about boxing and switch to WWE type wrestling. Corruption has no place in boxing and the bastard german promoters are blighting the sport.

[jisi]

No it did not show Airich is a legitamate puncher, it showed he was a hyped up average fighter promoted by germans.

Also Danny ws not down 3 times. Some of the standing counts were undertaken by the ref with no signs of Danny being hurt.

Overall this fight showed why german boxing is a farce and why it needs monitoring. If the germans like fixed events they should forget about boxing and switch to WWE type wrestling. Corruption has no place in boxing and the bastard german promoters are blighting the sport.

:good

[NBT]

No it did not show Airich is a legitamate puncher, it showed he was a hyped up average fighter promoted by germans.
WTF?? I've never seen any hype for Airich. Airich is average, always was, always will be. I mean I know you're on a hating spree right now, I don't care, but please let's get the facts straight.
Also Danny ws not down 3 times. Some of the standing counts were undertaken by the ref with no signs of Danny being hurt.
I don't know if the rules they fought under allowed standing counts but if it's the EBU rules I think it does. If that's the case those counts were ok, Williams was hurt, no doubt about it.

[kurt2006]

WTF?? I've never seen any hype for Airich. Airich is average, always was, always will be. I mean I know you're on a hating spree right now, I don't care, but please let's get the facts straight.

I don't know if the rules they fought under allowed standing counts but if it's the EBU rules I think it does. If that's the case those counts were ok, Williams was hurt, no doubt about it.

Where is the hate ? I am fed up of german bums getting titles due to dodgy refs and obvious corruption. Maybe you like corruption and all the shit that goes with it. Ifthe german bastard promoters want to fix fights they should fck off out of boxing and start WWE type fighting events.

Standing counts are there for a reason. There are not there to be used like they were last night to corruptly influence the outcome of a fight.

The arsehoel ref even gave Airich a standing count when he was hit by a low blow and then knocked a point off danny. So wither it was a low blow in which case why the fck give a standing count or it was an infringement by Danny in which case you warn and if he has given previous warnings you deduct a point.

[bumdujour]

Where is the hate ? I am fed up of german bums getting titles due to dodgy refs and obvious corruption. Maybe you like corruption and all the shit that goes with it. Ifthe german bastard promoters want to fix fights they should fck off out of boxing and start WWE type fighting events.

Standing counts are there for a reason. There are not there to be used like they were last night to corruptly influence the outcome of a fight.

The arsehoel ref even gave Airich a standing count when he was hit by a low blow and then knocked a point off danny. So wither it was a low blow in which case why the fck give a standing count or it was an infringement by Danny in which case you warn and if he has given previous warnings you deduct a point.

i totally agree. german boxing is as bad as its reputation.

[NBT]

Where is the hate ?
:lol:
Standing counts are there for a reason. There are not there to be used like they were last night to corruptly influence the outcome of a fight.
Exaclty, they are there for a reason, and if you don't think they were appropriate you should watch the fight again and if you still think they are not appropirate then we don't need to discuss this any further. Williams looked like shit in the first few rounds and this had nothing to do with corruption or whatever but the punches Airich landed. I'm trying to discuss the actual fight here but I don't think you have any interest in that.

[Betty Swollocks]

Danny Williams was down 3 times? And came back to win.

Well, it shows that Airich is a legitimate puncher. Williams has a hard head as seen from the assault he survived from Mike Tyson and the prolongoned brutal beat down by Klitschko.

Airich took this fight way too soon. He only has 10 fights and I never herd of him as an amatuer. Acctually I never hear of him until right now, he was moved up way too quick in competition.

:patsch
what the fuck are you yapping about?
Williams is damaged goods these days, to the extent that Audley Harrison had him all over the place and stopped him. Hardly a banger is Audley, and nor is this Airich. The KD's were bullhsit.
Airich had every advantage here but still got the shite beat out of him in the end.

as for the guy that claims Danny was cheating in this and the Platov fight......what a clown.

[kurt2006]

:lol:

Exaclty, they are there for a reason, and if you don't think they were appropriate you should watch the fight again and if you still think they are not appropirate then we don't need to discuss this any further. Williams looked like shit in the first few rounds and this had nothing to do with corruption or whatever but the punches Airich landed. I'm trying to discuss the actual fight here but I don't think you have any interest in that.

The fight was overshadowed by the bastard corrupt turko - german promoters trying to influence the fight.

Williams always looks shit in the first few, he did the same against Platov before he started to land and hurt the hyped Platov.

You carry on watching the fight and trying to justify the obvious display of corruption. Lets forget about bells sounding more than a minute early (when Airichis was seriously hurt).

We all know what happened yet you have your blinkers on. Are you Airich's relative ? :hey

[kurt2006]

:patsch
what the fuck are you yapping about?
Williams is damaged goods these days, to the extent that Audley Harrison had him all over the place and stopped him. Hardly a banger is Audley, and nor is this Airich. The KD's were bullhsit.
Airich had every advantage here but still got the shite beat out of him in the end.

as for the guy that claims Danny was cheating in this and the Platov fight......what a clown.

Agreed.

DW was bad when he was being trained by Macca but the Muslim Brotherhood trainers are a waste of time and do not have a clue about anything.

[NBT]

The fight was overshadowed by the bastard corrupt turko - german promoters trying to influence the fight.

Williams always looks shit in the first few, he did the same against Platov before he started to land and hurt the hyped Platov.

You carry on watching the fight and trying to justify the obvious display of corruption. Lets forget about bells sounding more than a minute early (when Airichis was seriously hurt).

We all know what happened yet you have your blinkers on. Are you Airich's relative ? :hey
WTF are you talking about, seriously? What i'm saying is that the standing counts were legit noting more nothing less. Like I said, I'm trying to discuss the actual fight here. I hardly said a word about any of the circumstances regarding the fight because there are already enough people like yourself who "kindly" offer us their elaborate and sophisticated rants. I won't waste my time trying to discuss this on a reasonable level because it's just not possible.

[kurt2006]

WTF are you talking about, seriously? What i'm saying is that the standing counts were legit noting more nothing less. Like I said, I'm trying to discuss the actual fight here. I hardly said a word about any of the circumstances regarding the fight because there are already enough people like yourself who "kindly" offer us their elaborate and sophisticated rants. I won't waste my time trying to discuss this on a reasonable level because it's just not possible.

Fck off then, no one asked for you to reply to my post.

Carry on living in your dream world where people like Ottke and Beyer are legends.

[BigEars]

Fck off then, no one asked for you to reply to my post.

Carry on living in your dream world where people like Ottke and Beyer are legends.

Ottke is a legend , he was the greatest at what he did since Dick Turpin :lol:

[NBT]

Fck off then, no one asked for you to reply to my post.
So you only expect people to answer, who applaud your rants?
Carry on living in your dream world where people like Ottke and Beyer are legends.

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[kurt2006]

:blurp So you only expect people to answer, who applaud your rants?


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Like I said, I'm trying to discuss the actual fight here. I hardly said a word about any of the circumstances regarding the fight because there are already enough people like yourself who "kindly" offer us their elaborate and sophisticated rants.


On the one hand you want to discuss the fight and on the other you appear more interested in my "sophisticated rants".

Make your mind up what you want to do, if you have a problem then start your own thread and I will not even bother posting.

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[Tunney5]

WTF are you talking about, seriously? What i'm saying is that the standing counts were legit noting more nothing less. Like I said, I'm trying to discuss the actual fight here. I hardly said a word about any of the circumstances regarding the fight because there are already enough people like yourself who "kindly" offer us their elaborate and sophisticated rants. I won't waste my time trying to discuss this on a reasonable level because it's just not possible.

Seems like you're the only one besides myself who actually watched the fight. :good

There's a lot of unjustified hate for European fighters and promoters. It's just a kind of prejudice, really. The worst "home" officiating I've seen has taken place in the US and Britain.

There was nothing crooked going on with the ref. Danny always resorts to dirty tactics when he's losing. But I would have preferred the ref not give Williams those standing eight counds, because Danny was seriously hurt and probably would have been KOed. The counts enabled him to recover just enough to survive.

[kurt2006]

Seems like you're the only one besides myself who actually watched the fight. :good

There's a lot of unjustified hate for European fighters and promoters. It's just a kind of prejudice, really.

There was nothing crooked going on. Danny always resorts to dirty tactics when he's losing. But I would have preferred the ref not give Williams those standing eight counds, because Danny was seriously hurt and probably would have been KOed. The counts enabled him to recover just enough to survive.

Is it a day off from the clown job at the circus ?

Oh, and Danny is also European as the UK is a member state in Europe. I guess you do not like the black man from brixton beating the white man. You crocked shit. The hate is against corrupt german promoters not against european boxers. If you cannot differentiate between the two then get some help.

No of cause there was nothing crooked, the bell sounded 1m 28s early by itself.

[Claypole]

There was nothing crooked going on with the ref.This is some seriously funny shit you're posting here!

[Strike]

Seems like you're the only one besides myself who actually watched the fight. :good

There's a lot of unjustified hate for European fighters and promoters. It's just a kind of prejudice, really. The worst "home" officiating I've seen has taken place in the US and Britain.

There was nothing crooked going on with the ref. Danny always resorts to dirty tactics when he's losing. But I would have preferred the ref not give Williams those standing eight counds, because Danny was seriously hurt and probably would have been KOed. The counts enabled him to recover just enough to survive.

You are joke and disgrace to the sport. There is no hate for European fighters in Britain, in fact you will find that the likes of Kessler have plenty of British fans and many British fans are glad to see Americans not running the Heavyweight division and mouthing off.

Name one example of worse home officiating in Britain or the US than a guy having the fucking bell rung with over a minute left in a round to save him.

Go on, name one. It is "fans" like you that support corruption. When Lennox Lewis was robbed against Holyfield, what happened? The US fans were embarrassed and disgusted. The US boxing magazines carried front pages saying Robbery. There was a criminal investigation and 99% of US fans were appalled.

Last night, a referee deducts points for body blows, allows Williams to fight with tape hanging from his glove, gives the German fight a 10 count after a KD and then an EXTRA 10 seconds checking him before sending him back to his corner for the end of the round.

When in trouble the fucking promoter rings the bell to end a round with 1.30 left on the clock!!!!!!!!!

And what do German fans say? "It was not corrupt". Are they ashamed in any way? No they lie and act like pathetic, myopic cunts and say it was not bias, and it is just "anti Euro" hate.:-(:-(

You and every so called fan like you are what is wrong with the sport. You support corruption and you are culpable for propping up CRIMINAL behaviour because you would rather have a champ on paper no matter what it takes to get him there than see your best fighters win it the honest way.

You make me sick.

[Ilesey]

This fight showed why german boxing is a complete joke. The bastard german/turk promoters did everything to cheat DW out of a win.

Such dirty low life scum should be kicked out of boxing). They are not content with fixing fights in Germany but have now spread their tentacles to Spain. They did the same in the Platov fight.

Terrible officiating and all so fucking blatant. Despite that Williams still won. :yep

[Ilesey]

No, in the Platov fight, Wiliams cut Oleg with a deliberate headbutt because he was losing. Danny should have been disqualified.

In this fight, once again Danny was losing, he'd been hurt several times. Then in the fourth round, he hit Airich with several rabbit punches that seemed to weaken him - from that point on until the TKO, Williams dominated.

Williams is a mediocre heavyweight who would have been stopped in both the Platov and Airich fights had he not resorted to dirty tactics. The ref today did deduct points, but probably should have disqualified Williams for repeated fouls. The ref in the Platov fight ignored Danny's head butts, low blows, holding while hitting, and hitting after the break.

You sir are somewhat an idiot. :nut

Deliberate headbutt. Platov punched Williams in close and their heads collided you biased cunt. So he should be disqualified? If you seriously think that then you no squat about boxing. It's probably just those rose tinted specs you have on. :roll:

Are we forgetting Platov's backhanders? Must I list his transgressions??? :lol:

Both men were hurt but this fight boiled down to one thing. Williams took what Platov could throw - Platov could not do the same. Williams extra fitness meant that when Platov was gassed Williams had loads left in the tank and was moments away from taking him out.

Furthermore, I have seen your other posts on the matter and it's safe to say your retort will be nothing more that barrel load of nationalistic tripe, which will be duly ignored. :good

[Ilesey]

Seems like you're the only one besides myself who actually watched the fight. :good

There's a lot of unjustified hate for European fighters and promoters. It's just a kind of prejudice, really. The worst "home" officiating I've seen has taken place in the US and Britain.

There was nothing crooked going on with the ref. Danny always resorts to dirty tactics when he's losing. But I would have preferred the ref not give Williams those standing eight counds, because Danny was seriously hurt and probably would have been KOed. The counts enabled him to recover just enough to survive.

:rofl

No other comment needed.

[Ilesey]

Seems like you're the only one besides myself who actually watched the fight. :good

There's a lot of unjustified hate for European fighters and promoters. It's just a kind of prejudice, really. The worst "home" officiating I've seen has taken place in the US and Britain.

There was nothing crooked going on with the ref. Danny always resorts to dirty tactics when he's losing. But I would have preferred the ref not give Williams those standing eight counds, because Danny was seriously hurt and probably would have been KOed. The counts enabled him to recover just enough to survive.

And what about the count that Airich received?

And the bell? Was it Airich's? It must be able to sense when he is about to get knocked the fuck out.

Or is it just one big coincidence. :roll:

[unitas]

Seems like you're the only one besides myself who actually watched the fight. :good

There's a lot of unjustified hate for European fighters and promoters. It's just a kind of prejudice, really. The worst "home" officiating I've seen has taken place in the US and Britain.

There was nothing crooked going on with the ref. Danny always resorts to dirty tactics when he's losing. But I would have preferred the ref not give Williams those standing eight counds, because Danny was seriously hurt and probably would have been KOed. The counts enabled him to recover just enough to survive.

by german standart, yes, the referree was NOT CROOKED at all.

tells you all you need to know about the german standart.

[dwilson]

Williams is not and never has been a legitimate top 20 heavyweight but he is still a far better fighter than Platov who is a awful hypejob.

[shavers]

Airich can be dangerous with more experience, and more fights.
No doubt he can bang and thats always popular in the heavys...

However his manager is a bum....:nut

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