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SuzieQ49
05-21-2008, 03:33 PM
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He is attempting to bypass his mandatory challenger povetkin, a young dangerous stud for a old feather fisted B level fighter. And he thinks this is going to enhance his legacy? :patsch Thompson will do nothing for his legacy, Alex P presents a big challenge and with his youthness reputation, handspeed skills its a legacy booster for wlad.

Jack
05-21-2008, 03:43 PM
He isn't. Wlad has mentioned many times he has two mandatories, Thompson and Povetkin and will face Haye after them, providing neither man loses.

ChrisPontius
05-21-2008, 04:13 PM
He first has to face his mandatory Thompson. After that it's Povetkin or Haye.


And i think that's a good thing. I would like Povetkin to get a few more wins and experience under his belt, to not look like a 12 fight Holmes opponent.

OBCboxer
05-21-2008, 04:33 PM
He first has to face his mandatory Thompson. After that it's Povetkin or Haye.


And i think that's a good thing. I would like Povetkin to get a few more wins and experience under his belt, to not look like a 12 fight Holmes opponent.

Leon Spinks!

Mendoza
05-21-2008, 07:48 PM
He first has to face his mandatory Thompson. After that it's Povetkin or Haye.

And i think that's a good thing. I would like Povetkin to get a few more wins and experience under his belt, to not look like a 12 fight Holmes opponent.

Right. No one thinks Wlad is ducking Povetkin. The truth is, the longer Povetkin waits, the better his chances will be. The Povetkin who had a rough go with Chambers would have been Ko'd by Wlad. I would like to see Povetkin win one more noteworthy fight.

Povetkin vs Wlad is a legacy type of fight. Two Olympic gold medal winners meeting in their primes. The last time this happened in the heavyweight was………..Frazier vs Ali in 1971! While Wlad vs Povetkin is not a super fight, it is a significant one. I would like to see it happen. If Wlad beats Thompson for his mandatory, I think we get this fight.

SuzieQ is wrong. Wlad seeks out belt holders and top challengers.

BOGART
05-21-2008, 08:42 PM
I'm guessing this thread is some sort of conversation starter and can't really be serious. His plans seem to be to fight Thompson(also a mandatory) and Povetkin, both, this year, back to back. Does the order really matter? Except the longer he waits the better Povetkin's chances. Noone can seriously think Wlad is ducking Povetkin.

Seamus
05-21-2008, 10:25 PM
Why are really stupid questions asked?

GrimReaper
05-21-2008, 10:28 PM
Why are really stupid questions asked?

Lol :good

Wlad wants nothing more than to fight the best and unify. He will fight Povetkin and knock him out. One of the most frequently used words on esb is "ducking"

SuzieQ49
05-21-2008, 11:40 PM
Wlad is stepping aside to fight a 37 year old featherfisted fighter instead of his mandatory IBF eliminater winner. thats the problem I have.

KobeIsGod
05-22-2008, 01:03 AM
Wlad is stepping aside to fight a 37 year old featherfisted fighter instead of his mandatory IBF eliminater winner. thats the problem I have.

hello? thompson in the wbo mandatory and wlad got the exemption from the ibf. povetkin wil get his shot no later than november. povetkin will be taking a warm up in july. i dont see what the problem is here. that will be 3 fights for wlad in 08 with his opponents cumulative record at 68-1. it's funny....if wlad had opted for povetkin first, u would have people claiming he's ducking thompson for a greenhorn with 15 fights :nod

oh and that article is garbage.

"In the past, Wladimir has had trouble against big punchers"

Uh Povetkin is not a big puncher. he is about average. his straight ahead pressure style will get him KTFO as he will walk into jabs and rights. His workrate will be neutralized by wlad's control of distance and long left hand. Did you see what Chambers' straight right hand did to Povetkin's face after 2 rounds? He won 4 of the first 5 rounds but basically stopped throwing punches after that. Povetkin is gonna get steamrolled no question about it. Wouldn't surprise me if the thompson fight goes longer due to his cautious nature. All Povetkin will do is make Wlad have to work a little harder :yep

KobeIsGod
05-22-2008, 01:10 AM
He isn't. Wlad has mentioned many times he has two mandatories, Thompson and Povetkin and will face Haye after them, providing neither man loses.

he never said that. he told haye to get in line because he was a nobody in the hw ranks, which is so true :rofl

all this bs press was manufactured by haye. the only ones pushing for wlad-haye right now are his delusional british fanboys and haye himself

Quick Cash
05-22-2008, 01:14 AM
Wlad is stepping aside to fight a 37 year old featherfisted fighter instead of his mandatory IBF eliminater winner. thats the problem I have.

How is it 'stepping aside' when he is fighting in July? He already got the go-ahead from the IBF so it's a perfectly valid, mandatory defense of his IBF and WBO titles.

janitor
05-22-2008, 03:50 AM
Wlad is stepping aside to fight a 37 year old featherfisted fighter instead of his mandatory IBF eliminater winner. thats the problem I have.

It might simply be that the deadline for meeting Povetkin is longer than the deadline for meeting Thompson.

Pat_Lowe
05-22-2008, 04:09 AM
Right. No one thinks Wlad is ducking Povetkin. The truth is, the longer Povetkin waits, the better his chances will be. The Povetkin who had a rough go with Chambers would have been Ko'd by Wlad. I would like to see Povetkin win one more noteworthy fight.

Povetkin vs Wlad is a legacy type of fight. Two Olympic gold medal winners meeting in their primes. The last time this happened in the heavyweight was………..Frazier vs Ali in 1971! While Wlad vs Povetkin is not a super fight, it is a significant one. I would like to see it happen. If Wlad beats Thompson for his mandatory, I think we get this fight.

SuzieQ is wrong. Wlad seeks out belt holders and top challengers.

Lewis-Mercer?

ChrisPontius
05-22-2008, 04:44 AM
Why are really stupid questions asked?

Considering he seriously believes that Vitali K. was afraid of Rahman and pulled out of the fight and retired for that reason, you can't really be surprised at this one. It's actually a small step up from that embarrassement.

PowerPuncher
05-22-2008, 04:46 AM
:lol: at this thread

SuzieQ49
05-22-2008, 10:36 AM
I cant wait to hear the exuses after the fight, just like we heard after Brewster I, and sanders fights. Pathetic. And to think I used to be a huge wladimir klitschko fan until his own fanbase turned me against him. Pathetic. Tony Thompson is a joke of a defense, really. I love how you guys keep underating potvekin. keep it up, keep elevating wlad to that high pedastool and we will have another ross purrity, corrie sanders, lamon brewster fight on our hands. You won't be able to defend wlad then, we will drift away into obscurity as another "never was", while his brother will continue to always be a "what if" and nothing more. its a shame because I really like wlad, i really do. ESB really has turned me against him.


Once again, people are eluding the fact Potvekin won the IBF MANDATORY final eliminater which means klitschko must fight him, but instead wlad is trying to pull a less risk higher reward type thing by taking on a 37 year old feather fisted fighter instead of his IBF mandatory. reminds me of holmes-page taking on marvis frazier instead.

mr. magoo
05-22-2008, 10:43 AM
I cant wait to hear the exuses after the fight, just like we heard after Brewster I, and sanders fights. Pathetic. And to think I used to be a huge wladimir klitschko fan until his own fanbase turned me against him. Pathetic. Tony Thompson is a joke of a defense, really. I love how you guys keep underating potvekin. keep it up, keep elevating wlad to that high pedastool and we will have another ross purrity, corrie sanders, lamon brewster fight on our hands.

With all due respect SuzieQ, it doesn't seem to me like anyone here is overrating Klitschko nor underrating Povetkin. The types of responses that you have gotten from this thread were driven by the fact that you made a false claim. Klitschko is not by any means "ducking" Povetkin. He is sumply defending against a mandatory contender which he did not chose himself, with full intentions of facing Povetkin in his following defense. This has been explained to you on several occasions but for whatever reason, you refuse to acknowledge the truth. I agree that Thompson is not the most desirable opponent for a title defense, but our opinion of him is irrelevant. He is a mandatory, and that's all there is to it.......Period........

mr. magoo
05-22-2008, 11:00 AM
The author of this thread is employing his usual tactics of applying misinformation to suit his agenda. Not that it matters much, but Tony Thompson is actually 36 not 37. I also wouldn't call him feather fisted either. In addition, he is a rather large south paw ( often a problem for Wlad ), and has never been knocked out. He's also won his last 27 strait fights over an 8 year period. I'm not claiming that Thompson is a great fighter or anything, but calling him a bum is a distortion of the truth.

While I believe that everyone is entitled to an opinion, there must be a distinction made between expressing one's view and flat out lying or twisting facts.

Mendoza
05-22-2008, 06:43 PM
The author of this thread is employing his usual tactics of applying misinformation to suit his agenda. Not that it matters much, but Tony Thompson is actually 36 not 37. I also wouldn't call him feather fisted either. In addition, he is a rather large south paw ( often a problem for Wlad ), and has never been knocked out. He's also won his last 27 strait fights over an 8 year period. I'm not claiming that Thompson is a great fighter or anything, but calling him a bum is a distortion of the truth.

While I believe that everyone is entitled to an opinion, there must be a distinction made between expressing one's view and flat out lying or twisting facts.

Well said. If Wlad dropped the WBO belt to fight Povetkin next, I bet someone would start a thread about Wlad is ducking Thompson.

Hatesrats
05-22-2008, 06:59 PM
I think Wlad is waititng for Vitali's fight before he goes ahead and prob drop's his belt's.. Klitscho's wanna make history by being Brother Heavyweight champions at the same time. Wlad @ this point is bigger than the ABC championship's. He could fight Haye anytime he want's (which is the Money fight right now) he's waiting for Vitali as usual.

But he has to stay active and defend his ABC titles in the meantime hence "Thompson".
(He has the Ring belt which is the #1 strap now IMO)

McGrain
05-22-2008, 07:07 PM
Wlad is stepping aside to fight a 37 year old featherfisted fighter instead of his mandatory IBF eliminater winner. thats the problem I have.

I'm sure there are lots of people in general who would love to discuss it with you.

McGrain
05-22-2008, 07:08 PM
Well said. I Wlad dropped the WBO belt to fight Povetkin next, I bet someone would start a thread about Wlad is ducking Thompson.

Not "someone". SuzieQ's sniping at Wlad is starting irritate me, and I really don't have that much time for the younger Klitchko.