who should calzaghe fight next???

[zarman]

who should calzaghe fight next???

[mike464]

Dawson or Tarver

[Tunney5]

Jones or Dawson.

[Fat Tony]

Pavlik.

Jones - not another opponent in his forties. Since his losses against Tarver and Johnson, he hasn't beaten a single TOP15 opponent.
Tarver - not another opponent in his forties. Lost against Hopkins. So why should he fight him?
Dawson - didn't look too good against Johnson. Calzaghe vs Dawson used to be the fight I was yearning for before Johnson-Dawson took place.

[tays001]

Rrj

[Undisputed P4P]

i thought he lost to hopkins, but that fight is done with now, i can't see him fighting pavlik at 160, roy jones brings everything he wants, a name on his resume so people in 20 years to think that he was a great, which he clearly isn't, and he also brings money.

[Benjiabc]

definitly pavlik, for me no other fight makes sense in terms of boxing. for money, it would be rjj but who knows

[Imperial1]

Roy Jones I have a feeling locket is going to pull an upset !

[Montero]

definitly pavlik, for me no other fight makes sense in terms of boxing. for money, it would be rjj but who knows

Pavlik is the Middleweight champion of the world and he's got a legitimate #1 contender he needs to beat before moving up (Abraham, as long as he beats Miranda in their rematch). It makes absolutely NO sense for Pavlik to move up to 168, let alone 175, at this time when he has unfinished business at 160 pounds. If he beats Abraham he's beaten everybody in the division worth a damn and then he can look at 168. A fight with Calzaghe makes NO sense right now in terms of legacy or even money...

For Calzaghe the fight that makes the most sense in terms of mainstream appeal, legacy, resume AND money is Roy Jones Jr. After he fights (and beats) him, if he wanted to go for the linear legacy he could fight the winner of Dawson-Tarver (if they actually fight). Then he could retire as the true, linear, undisputed, undefeated champ at 168-175. No other fights makes sense...

Calzaghe-Jones
Pavlik-Abraham

Those are the fights that make the most sense for each star.

[booradley]

Calzaghe has been calling Pavlik out ever since Pavlik/Taylor I. If he doesn't fight Pavlik before he retires, he ducked him.

[columbo man]

the one and only roy jones!!!!!

[Fat Tony]

Calzaghe has been calling Pavlik out ever since Pavlik/Taylor I. If he doesn't fight Pavlik before he retires, he ducked him.

Why is Joe ducking Pavlik and not the other way around?

[Scar]

Pavlik.
Easy win for Calzaghe in my opinion but still the best option.

[Benjiabc]

Pavlik is the Middleweight champion of the world and he's got a legitimate #1 contender he needs to beat before moving up (Abraham, as long as he beats Miranda in their rematch). It makes absolutely NO sense for Pavlik to move up to 168, let alone 175, at this time when he has unfinished business at 160 pounds. If he beats Abraham he's beaten everybody in the division worth a damn and then he can look at 168. A fight with Calzaghe makes NO sense right now in terms of legacy or even money...

For Calzaghe the fight that makes the most sense in terms of mainstream appeal, legacy, resume AND money is Roy Jones Jr. After he fights (and beats) him, if he wanted to go for the linear legacy he could fight the winner of Dawson-Tarver (if they actually fight). Then he could retire as the true, linear, undisputed, undefeated champ at 168-175. No other fights makes sense...

Calzaghe-Jones
Pavlik-Abraham

Those are the fights that make the most sense for each star.


me and 19 other people have to disagree mate, pavlik is hyped to shit on this forum and by all americans so if he is apparently good enough why not fight, joe has already said he would go back down to 168 if he was to fight pavlik, pavlik has fought at 166 pounds against jermaine taylor so the weight would not be an issue, i personally think pavlik has no reason to even think of sharing a ring with JC, but a hell of alot of americans think pavlik not only has the right to share a ring, but that he will knock joe out, so hey if pavlik is as good as everyone says he is then lets get this shit on, how can you say this fight makes no sense it would be the biggest fight of the year, which JC would inevitabley win by UD:good

[Benjiabc]

Calzaghe has been calling Pavlik out ever since Pavlik/Taylor I. If he doesn't fight Pavlik before he retires, he ducked him.


what a load of shit:nut

[onourway]

chad johnson

Is this a Glenn and Chad lovechild?

[Montero]

me and 19 other people have to disagree mate, pavlik is hyped to shit on this forum and by all americans so if he is apparently good enough why not fight, joe has already said he would go back down to 168 if he was to fight pavlik, pavlik has fought at 166 pounds against jermaine taylor so the weight would not be an issue, i personally think pavlik has no reason to even think of sharing a ring with JC, but a hell of alot of americans think pavlik not only has the right to share a ring, but that he will knock joe out, so hey if pavlik is as good as everyone says he is then lets get this shit on, how can you say this fight makes no sense it would be the biggest fight of the year, which JC would inevitabley win by UD:good

Well I disagree that it would be the "biggest fight of the year" - especially in a year that has Cotto-Margarito and Vasquez-Marquez III - but I understand what you are saying...

As an American I can tell you that as sad as it seems, beating a faded Roy Jones Jr will do more for Joe Calzaghe's "credibility" than beating Pavlik. I hate to say it, but beating a flashy, trash-talking, African-American legend (who just o happens to be a former p4p #1 fighter and first ballot hall-of-famer) will do WAY more for Joe's legacy with the US sports public - that's just the way it is here. Trust me on that one.

[Benjiabc]

Well I disagree that it would be the "biggest fight of the year" - especially in a year that has Cotto-Margarito and Vasquez-Marquez III - but I understand what you are saying...

As an American I can tell you that as sad as it seems, beating a faded Roy Jones Jr will do more for Joe Calzaghe's "credibility" than beating Pavlik. I hate to say it, but beating a flashy, trash-talking, African-American legend (who just o happens to be a former p4p #1 fighter and first ballot hall-of-famer) will do WAY more for Joe's legacy with the US sports public - that's just the way it is here. Trust me on that one.


ok mate i will take your word for it on that, i understand that alot of boxing "fans" who dont follow the sport properly are more impressed by the big names being beaten like jones rather then the real boxing fans knowing that pavlik would be more of a challenge. but i cant see the pavlik fight happeneing anyway to be honest, i think it will be jones:good

[ocelot]

Is this a Glenn and Chad lovechild?
:rofl I was wondering the same thing.
As for the question posed by the poster, I picked RJJ for the historical significance of the fight. But, really, I don't think Calzaghe has any business fighting at LWH. He's not a naturally big enough guy. I thought so before Hopkins, and I especially think so now. Pavlik would be a really interesting test.

[Montero]

ok mate i will take your word for it on that, i understand that alot of boxing "fans" who dont follow the sport properly are more impressed by the big names being beaten like jones rather then the real boxing fans knowing that pavlik would be more of a challenge. but i cant see the pavlik fight happeneing anyway to be honest, i think it will be jones:good

Exactly. Most mainstream "fans" know the name/face that is Roy Jones and thus would see a victory over him as a bigger accomlishment. To be totally honest, most of these same "fans" would rather see Calzaghe fight Tarver rather than pavlik because once against they know his face - not just from his fights with RJJ, but from the Rocky flick.

Joe should go for legacy, money, and mainstream appeal now. He's proven himself as "the real deal" in my opinion - he has nothing left to prove. If he wants to put a couple flashy names on his resume like Hopkins and Jones (even if they are past their best), and maximize his earning potential, he certainly has earned the right to do that!

[Benjiabc]

Exactly. Most mainstream "fans" know the name/face that is Roy Jones and thus would see a victory over him as a bigger accomlishment. To be totally honest, most of these same "fans" would rather see Calzaghe fight Tarver rather than pavlik because once against they know his face - not just from his fights with RJJ, but from the Rocky flick.

Joe should go for legacy, money, and mainstream appeal now. He's proven himself as "the real deal" in my opinion - he has nothing left to prove. If he wants to put a couple flashy names on his resume like Hopkins and Jones (even if they are past their best), and maximize his earning potential, he certainly has earned the right to do that!


your right and being a big JC fan half of me wants to see him go for money and go out with a win over a big name, but loving boxing like i do i would also love to see him have a challenge and a great fight against pavlik, but hey:good

[KilltheKing]

Ricky Hatton

[dandur55]

I voted for Jones, but Pavlik is the most likly to hapened, Jones wants to much money.
I belive both Jones and Pavlik will bit Joe if they ever fight

[Bodysnatcher]

If Calzaghe's win against Hopkins is constantly devalued by many because of Hopkins age, then any Calzaghe victory over RJJ will be completely disregarded by the majority of American and world boxing fans.

Hopkins was the LHW king, a P4P fighter who'd never been knocked out and whose only losses since 1993 were disputed decisions against Jermain Taylor.

By contrast, RJJ is considered shot by most people, has been knocked out twice, and is way off the pace in the LHW rankings, let alone the P4P rankings.

Calzaghe gets nothing in legacy terms by beating RJJ and Calzaghe himself has stated that he doesn't think becoming the `third guy to KO RJJ` will mean much at this stage (Ref: Calzaghe's biography...not that Joe can KO anyone these days).

Pavlik is the only fight for Calzaghe which will earn Calzaghe any kind of recognition from his American detractors.

He might get SOME kudos for beating Dawson or Tarver, but wins over those two would be discredited in about three seconds (Dawson barely beat Glen Johnson and is overhyped, Tarver is old etc etc...you know it'd happen, you know what they'd all say).

Pavlik is on the rise, is developing a large and passionate US fan base, he's the MW king to Calzaghe's SMW king, he's a P4P fighter...

It's blindingly obvious that Calzaghe vs Pavlik is the fight that will gain Calzaghe the most respect if he wins...that might be down to a lack of options in many ways but it's still the truth, imho.

But if Abraham beats Miranda Pavlik will fight him in a unification bout, of that I have no doubt.

[mike464]

I really hope he doesn't fight Pavlik. It would make sense to win a title at light heavy rather than beat a middleweight.

[Bodysnatcher]

I see Calzaghe vs Pavlik as a Hagler vs Hearns scenario.

In terms of a taller, rangier, lighter fighter stepping up one division to fight that division's kingpin.

With the added potential for a similarly entertaining fight (although nothing, of course, beats Hagler vs Hearns).

[Pimp C]

Chad Dawson or Pavlik

[mattress]

Calzaghe has been calling Pavlik out ever since Pavlik/Taylor I. If he doesn't fight Pavlik before he retires, he ducked him.

Just when I thought your stupidity had reached new heights...........

[mattress]

I really hope he doesn't fight Pavlik. It would make sense to win a title at light heavy rather than beat a middleweight.
He could KO Wlad and you'd still find something to whinge about Calzaghe.

[mike464]

He could KO Wlad and you'd still find something to whinge about Calzaghe.With the state of the heavyweight division...

[Paulie]

Bute...but to dangerous for Calzaghe...

[booradley]

Just when I thought your stupidity had reached new heights...........

Slappy Joe will fight Roy jones, and then retire. He wants no part of a guaranteed KO loss at this point in his career.

[Benjiabc]

Slappy Joe will fight Roy jones, and then retire. He wants no part of a guaranteed KO loss at this point in his career.


so that means he would not fight pavlik because......?

[Words]

Jones. Just coz he's the most interesting one to watch, and coz I think he stands a good chance of winning.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think Pavlik is the toughest fight of any of those listed.

Jones - past his prime
Woods - not a big enough fight
Tarver - ditto
Johnson - ditto
Hopkins - Zzzzzz
Dawson - Chad would be schooled
Bute - ditto

[J-Dog]

Slappy Joe will fight Roy jones, and then retire. He wants no part of a guaranteed KO loss at this point in his career.

Guaranteed KO...:lol:

If its Pavlik your implying 'Slappy Joe' will get KTFO by think again and watch some of Joes fights... (before the Americans heard of him as in 3yrs ago)

Much as i like Kelly, Joe makes mincemeat out of that kind of style all day...Boxing Lesson 101

[ThePlugInBabies]

tocker pudwill rematch.

we all want it.

[RealIzm]

Roy.....or Kessler again(no damn good reason why not, when you look at the other choices)

[J-Dog]

tocker pudwill rematch.

we all want it.

Please nooooo, Newcastle cant take it again...........

[bill poster]

If he fights Pavlik he will lose. So fight Jones and retire.

[RealIzm]

If he fights Pavlik he will lose. So fight Jones and retire.The exact reason behind my Jones pick:good

[J-Dog]

:-( Jones is a horrible fight, stylistic wise and resume' wise, why anyone wants to see that i dont know, Joe wins but as nearly as horrible to watch as the Hopkins fight.

Jones says he wont run, but he def wont come on he will only try to mug him.....

Pavlik fight will catch fire as soon as the bell goes.

[Arriba]

I voted for Chad Johnson.

We saw what he does on the football field, lets see him in the ring.

[Bomber]

Calzaghe is only going for the big money fights at this point in his career. Its amusing that all the fighters who had no time for him 5 or 6 years ago, and repeatedly rebuffed and pulled out of fights are now chasing him openly.

He has done the hard work, now its time for some nice earners.

[Beeston Brawler]

Calzaghe would beat Pavlik - he has toyed with come forward fighters before.

Pavlik is very good, but also appears to be pretty one-dimensional thus far, which would play into Joe's hands.

To beat Joe, you would need to be able to switch tactics every two or three rounds to keep him guessing - you ain't gonna beat him on workrate, and he has sufficient ring savvy to be able to avoid big bombs.

[Arriba]

Pavlik has one thing that gives him the edge on potentially beating Calzaghe---a massive right hand. If he can drop that baby over the top on Calzaghe, he can do damage at will.

It's just too bad he'd be eating 5-6 punch combinations in the process of trying.

[J-Dog]

Calzaghe would beat Pavlik - he has toyed with come forward fighters before.

Pavlik is very good, but also appears to be pretty one-dimensional thus far, which would play into Joe's hands.

To beat Joe, you would need to be able to switch tactics every two or three rounds to keep him guessing - you ain't gonna beat him on workrate, and he has sufficient ring savvy to be able to avoid big bombs.

Spot on as usual BB my boy, even if Kelly lands the big right he got a good enough chin to take one or two of them, but one or two is all he will take cause he would make adjustments and Kellys chance will be gone.

Kessler's got just as big a shot and once it had landed, that was that, chance just doesnt come round again.

[madpup]

Calzaghe is only going for the big money fights at this point in his career. Its amusing that all the fighters who had no time for him 5 or 6 years ago, and repeatedly rebuffed and pulled out of fights are now chasing him openly.

He has done the hard work, now its time for some nice earners.

Yes, isnt it incredible that when these fighters were in their prime they all avoided Joe, but now when they are old and past their best, they want to fight him?

You are deluded fool.

[Bomber]

Yes, isnt it incredible that when these fighters were in their prime they all avoided Joe, but now when they are old and past their best, they want to fight him?



Not really son, as he is now the driving seat with his earning capacity Ring championship and profile, as opposed to when he was a underminded threat that had little benefit to their career and a decidedly tough fight.

[madpup]

Not really son, as he is now the driving seat with his earning capacity Ring championship and profile, as opposed to when he was a underminded threat that had little benefit to their career and a decidedly tough fight.

JC stayed in UK way too long, he is only becoming a worldwide household name now, after he started chasing the big fights. If you are a challenger, no one is going to come to you to fight you, you have to make it all happen, which Calzaghe did not do for a long time. The sad thing is that if Calzaghe went down this path 4-5 years ago, he would have definitelly left more of an imprint than what he will now. Do you agree?

[Beeston Brawler]

Calzaghe did stay in the UK way too long, but he listened to the advice of his promoter too much.

Once he saw how Ricky Hatton's profile has rocketed worldwide and how much money he was making he decided to cross the pond.

Pavlik does have a meaty right hand, which Joe can feast upon occasionally, but I just feel that he has sufficient ring savvy to work Pavlik out, could you really say the same about Pavlik?

I can't.

[madpup]

Calzaghe should beat Pavlik,he has too much skill for him. I think Dawson has a better chance of beating Calzaghe due to his silky skills and fast hands. I would love to see Calzaghe fight them both.

[D-MAC]

I could see Calzaghe fighting either RJJ or Pavlik.

But in my opinion I think Dawson is the only one who has a chance at beating him at this point. RJJ is 2 far past his prime (he would have beaten Joe C comfortably back in his best days) and Pavlik's style is tailor-made for Joe.

[THN]

Dawson or Kessler II

[Bodysnatcher]

Dawson definitely does have the best chance of beating Calzaghe. It would be a good fight.

That's a fight that would have to happen in Cardiff, though - I really can't see Dawson drawing much of a crowd in the states, or a great deal of interest either.

[BodyShots]

Why go down in weight?

He Should fight a hall of famer like Roy Jones Jr.

Styles make fights.
And these 2 styles would be makings of a great fight.

[RUSKULL]

Jones or Pavlik.

[tpuz]

For my interest and for great boxing, I want to see Calzaghe vs. Pavlik. But for Calzaghe, Jones makes the most sense, bigger name, more money, less risk. If Calzaghe makes the fight with Pavlik, I would have great respect for him, regardless of the outcome.